Standing outside in Tokyo's hot and humid summer weather waiting for a non-melting ice cream to melt is torture when all you want to do is cool down with a confectionery treat, but hey, it's for science.
I was doing this silly thing to test the claims of Kanazawa Ice, who claim to sell ice cream that can stand in the sun for at least 10 minutes without melting.
It's made with polyphenol liquid extracted from strawberries, which apparently makes it harder for the water and oil in the ice cream to separate, allowing the popsicle to retain its shape a lot longer. Determined to put this to the test, I popped by the Kanazawa Ice shop in Tokyo and got myself a chocolate flavored ice cream bear.
Wouldn't cooling it with liquid helium accomplish the same feat?
(Score: 3, Funny) by c0lo on Tuesday August 08 2017, @07:19AM (10 children)
Listen, do you want icecream or a stabilized emulsion of Fermi-Dirac in Bose-Einstein-condensate with strawberry flavor?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 3, Funny) by krishnoid on Tuesday August 08 2017, @07:28AM (9 children)
Great, now exotic matter physicists are getting in on the artisan food action. Not the worst part of living in a dystopian future, but it still sucks.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 08 2017, @08:03AM (6 children)
For sucking, I recommend a rotating neutral black hole.
You'll need to be careful of frame-dragging, but you'll get adjusted with practice.
(Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 08 2017, @09:46AM (5 children)
Could such black holes—or the non-melting ice cream—be used to stabilise a washing machine?
(Score: 3, Funny) by MostCynical on Tuesday August 08 2017, @10:30AM (4 children)
Transport costs become prohibitive for the black holes, and that is without the cost of keeping it in place (although, once you have built your own LHC, the washing machine stabiliy issue is likely moot.)
"I guess once you start doubting, there's no end to it." -Batou, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
(Score: 3, Touché) by Phoenix666 on Tuesday August 08 2017, @11:05AM (3 children)
Wouldn't it get really tricky to line up delivery times also, with relativistic effects?
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Tuesday August 08 2017, @12:42PM (2 children)
The AC who suggested it mentioned something about frame-dragging.
But what do I know? I only specialized in dystopian exotic materialism.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 09 2017, @03:28AM (1 child)
Well, I carry a quad microsingularity time displacement unit in my car. (Improvement over the first-gen General Electric models.) Arriving on time is not a problem, plus or minus divergence.
And hopefully, I think humanity is headed for something that is not a dystopia. Civilization only needed to burn first, but perhaps it was worth it. Just maybe we'll never forget to keep a spare gas can again. Only time can tell.
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Wednesday August 09 2017, @03:50AM
You mean the "Micro Encabulator" from PATH [youtube.com]? The one vastly improving on the original turboencabulator? [wikipedia.org]
The one featuring "three miniaturized hydrocoptic marzlevanes instead of the usual six, and connects them via a Jefferies Tube to a quaziluvial waneshaft"?
Where did you get one? I looked on all Internet retailers and couldn't find any. In still using the original GE turboencabulator [youtube.com] I've got from my grandfather, but it's increasingly difficult to find spare differential girdlesprings.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 08 2017, @08:28AM
Non-newtonian fluid ice cream, in a youtube video near you, soon!
(Score: 2) by krishnoid on Tuesday August 08 2017, @07:18PM
Dammit, *condensed-matter* physicists -- sorry.
(Score: 3, Funny) by aristarchus on Tuesday August 08 2017, @07:50AM (8 children)
Our man, or, um Soylentil! On the street in Kanazawa! Reporting live, about ice cream. SN has finally made it as an international news source! Hurray! Or, oh no, don't say it . . . ambiguous editing of the Fine Summary, again? I am looking at a puddle of Chocolate Fudge Ripple, on my virtual pavement.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by FatPhil on Tuesday August 08 2017, @08:29AM (5 children)
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
(Score: 2) by aristarchus on Tuesday August 08 2017, @08:37AM (4 children)
What? Mycoproteins? Nobody said anything about some funky fungus proteins! It was all strawberries and ployprophehleinsz or something. Little Miss Cupcake. Japan, a whole nation of pedophiles. . . where were we?
(Score: 2) by FatPhil on Tuesday August 08 2017, @08:47AM
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 08 2017, @01:15PM (2 children)
Pretty much lost interest at "strawberries" -- last time I had a big bowl of strawberries (yummm) I was itchy all over. Looked and sure enough, some people have/develop an allergy to them. Must be mild, I'm OK if I only have a few.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 09 2017, @03:34AM (1 child)
That sucks. Personally I love a big bowl of mixed berries, though I'm not a fan of blueberries. Grew up in blueberry country and had one too many as a kid. I could eat all the other kinds of berry for hours on end, though! (Gets to be an expensive indulgence!)
Can you at least enjoy raspberries and blackberries freely, or are they too similar?
(Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Wednesday August 09 2017, @06:22AM
No berries are similar to strawberries, because botanically, strawberries are not berries, they are nuts. Which is also why strawberry allergy and (other) nut allergies often go together. With the exception of peanut allergy, because peanuts aren't nuts, they are beans.
The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
(Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Tuesday August 08 2017, @11:07AM
I was once in Kanazawa, but not this time. This time I used a VR setup my pal Zuck hooked me up with and (and I left this part off to spare the kiddies) tasted the icecream by licking it off the belly of a sexbot 9000. Smoooooth. Creeaaamy.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 2) by VLM on Tuesday August 08 2017, @02:07PM
In the burbs where people buy the stuff that tastes good, that liquid brown stain on the pavement is a tragic childs ice cream cone.
In the big hipster city where people buy the stuff that posts well to social media, that liquid brown stain on the homeless covered pavement is ... not ice cream.
I wouldn't lick it, even virtually, if I were you.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 08 2017, @08:02AM (1 child)
10 minutes only? Try 4 days:
http://globalnews.ca/news/3645250/ice-cream-sandwich-that-doesnt-melt-in-hot-weather-raises-questions-about-ingredients/ [globalnews.ca]
See also: http://www.latimes.com/food/dailydish/la-dd-walmart-ice-cream-sandwich-wont-melt-20140728-story.html [latimes.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 08 2017, @12:12PM
Previous S/N stories on ice cream and melting:
Why WalMart Ice Cream Doesn't Melt [soylentnews.org]
Slower Melting Ice Cream in Pipeline, Thanks to New Ingredient [soylentnews.org]
-- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 08 2017, @08:13AM (6 children)
If it is not melting in the sun, doesn't that mean it also won't be melting in the mouth? For me, the latter is an important part of the ice cream experience.
(Score: 2) by FatPhil on Tuesday August 08 2017, @08:41AM (5 children)
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
(Score: 3, Touché) by MostCynical on Tuesday August 08 2017, @10:33AM (4 children)
Just because it is inedible, doesn't mean it won't sell (McDonalds, etc etc)
"I guess once you start doubting, there's no end to it." -Batou, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
(Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Tuesday August 08 2017, @11:09AM (2 children)
Also, Tang, natto, durian, and vegemite.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 08 2017, @06:37PM (1 child)
You no like the Vegemite? You heathen! I always start with a little drop of it but invariably end up slathering it on crackers like peanut-butter. I don't know why!
(Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Wednesday August 09 2017, @04:17AM
No, I like it, personally. Except the only kind you can get here is Marmite, which they place in the baking goods aisle next to the baker's yeast packets (that always makes me smile). Other people complain about it, though, and every time I offer it to my kids they run screaming.
Then, I also like salmiakki, and most people in the US run screaming from that, too.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 2) by FatPhil on Tuesday August 08 2017, @11:21AM
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
(Score: 2) by jasassin on Tuesday August 08 2017, @09:30AM (8 children)
Most ice cream is like this. If you see the ingredient cellulose on the ice cream that's what it is. It's basically sawdust in your icecream. I saw a show on this same thing. They put icream with the cellulose out in 90 degree weather and it didn't melt.
If you want good ice cream, make sure the word cellulose is not in the ingredients! Wall mart has a cheap brand that is delicious, it's the generic kind family something like that with no cellulose.
jasassin@gmail.com GPG Key ID: 0xE6462C68A9A3DB5A
(Score: 4, Informative) by takyon on Tuesday August 08 2017, @10:44AM (2 children)
Cellulose is also the secret ingredient in the slow-melting pykrete [wikipedia.org].
[SIG] 10/28/2017: Soylent Upgrade v14 [soylentnews.org]
(Score: 2) by jasassin on Tuesday August 08 2017, @11:20AM
Wish I had some mod points! Very informative and interesting!
jasassin@gmail.com GPG Key ID: 0xE6462C68A9A3DB5A
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 08 2017, @01:50PM
Cellulose is also used as an anti-caking ingredient in shredded cheese. Yes, it's sourced from wood pulp but that doesn't make it bad. Cellulose could be obtained from just about any plant you can think. It's extracted, so t's not like they just took a handful of sawdust and threw it in your food. Pretend you are eating lettuce.
(Score: 2) by RamiK on Tuesday August 08 2017, @10:56AM (1 child)
Just make your own. It takes 5min with a $30 ice-cream maker and all the ingredients can be found on the shelf in a supermarket near you.
compiling...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 08 2017, @11:24PM
Even the cellulose?
(Score: 2) by FatPhil on Tuesday August 08 2017, @11:32AM (2 children)
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
(Score: 3, Informative) by takyon on Tuesday August 08 2017, @12:08PM
Prepared non-refrigerated Parmesan has cellulose in it. And is not even very cheap:
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Kraft-100-Real-Parmesan-Grated-Cheese-8-oz/10295581 [walmart.com]
Now imagine the price of the 2x20oz pack at Costco.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-parmesan-cheese-wood-scandal-20160216-story.html [chicagotribune.com]
http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-parmesan-cheese-lawsuits-0301-biz-20160229-story.html [chicagotribune.com]
https://www.foodbeast.com/news/youve-been-eating-parmesan-cheese-made-with-wood-and-never-even-knew-it/ [foodbeast.com]
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/investigations-rat-out-cheesemakers-false-ingredient-claims/ [cbsnews.com]
https://archive.fo/TjdM5 [archive.fo]
[SIG] 10/28/2017: Soylent Upgrade v14 [soylentnews.org]
(Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Tuesday August 08 2017, @06:40PM
Let alone ice cream. I can't even get regular liquid cream without guar gum here in Quebec. It completely interferes with my wife's fudge recipe, which we now have to make with milk instead.