An 18-year-old Hungarian man was taken into custody after reporting one of the numerous bugs in the Budapest Transport Authority's site. He found the bug by using the "view source" feature of his browser. He then bought a ticket at much less than its usual price, and reported the problem to the transit authority without using the ticket.
Bleeping Computer has a translation of a message from the arrestee:
I am an 18-year-old, now middle school graduate. Perhaps that which differs from the average, is that I trust that I can help solve a mistake.
I discovered last Friday [2017-07-22] that I could take a monthly ticket for 50 for the new internet e-ticket system in BKK, and then informed them about two minutes later. I did not use the ticket, I do not even live near Budapest, I never traveled on a BKK route. My goal was just to signal the error to the BKK in order to solve it and not to use it (for example, to sell the tickets at a half price for their own benefit).
The BKK has not been able to answer me for four days, but in their press conference today they said it was a cyber attack and was reported. I found an amateur bug that could be exploited by many people - no one seriously thinks an 18-year-old kid would have played a serious security system and wanted to commit a crime by promptly telling the authorities.
I am convinced that if I do not speak about the error, I will not report it. My hire was canceled only after I sent my letter to them.
I would like to publish this post without my name and identity. I ask you to help by sharing this entry with your acquaintances so that the BKK will come to a better understanding and see if my purpose is merely a helper intention, I have not harmed or wanted to harm them in any way. I hope that in this case the BKK will consider withdrawing the report
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 17 2017, @01:08PM
for the body is dead.
(Score: 2) by driverless on Thursday August 17 2017, @01:09PM (4 children)
Did anyone look at the date of the article before this was approved? Everyone already had a go at being outraged by this three weeks ago when it first came up.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 17 2017, @01:16PM (2 children)
We need to let the dust settle and facts to be known, otherwise we risk serious fights over fake news.
(Score: 4, Informative) by driverless on Thursday August 17 2017, @01:21PM (1 child)
In any case the story seems to have disappeared, the guy was released not long afterwards and no more was made of the matter.
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Thursday August 17 2017, @01:33PM
Mmmm... happy ending, true.
But some serious shit until then (typical corruption in the IT sector of SE Europe countries - $1mil/year for doing a shit job) - see my reply linking to El Reg.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 5, Informative) by c0lo on Thursday August 17 2017, @01:27PM
El Reg has a more complete story [theregister.co.uk]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 5, Insightful) by c0lo on Thursday August 17 2017, @01:11PM (1 child)
"no good deed goes unpunished" is not an Anglo-Saxon monopoly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Thursday August 17 2017, @03:23PM
The guy should have known better than to use a browser that has the View Source command.
Oh, wait . . .
To transfer files: right-click on file, pick Copy. Unplug mouse, plug mouse into other computer. Right-click, paste.
(Score: 0, Offtopic) by kurenai.tsubasa on Thursday August 17 2017, @01:49PM (14 children)
I realized I left some big ones off my last attempt to enumerate the facets of (cis)female privilege [soylentnews.org].
If you're a man, you do not, I repeat, do not ever do the IT equivalent of knocking on your neighbor's door that's been open for a few hours and letting them know that it's swinging in the breeze. Your life will become a world of shit, and goddess help you if the person responsible for the website with its entry door flapping in the breeze is a (cis)woman!
Now, if you're a cisgendered woman¹, you probably can go right ahead and point out that somebody who has not only your private information, but (hundred of?) thousands of other people's private information, that their website's door is flapping in the breeze! (Cis)Female privilege guarantees that they will presume your intentions to be innocent.
But if you're a man, holy shit! I remember the first time I sensed that things were not quite right with my area of interest, back in 7th grade, when the cisfemale network administrator gaslighted, bullshitted, lied, and entrapped the after school computer club I started—with the full and enthusiastic buy-in and sponsorship of a member of the teaching staff!—and was threatening to have us all locked up in jail in the big city and prosecuted for felony violations of the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act.
So, (cis)women have all collectively decided that none of them are going to even fucking try to learn the first fucking thing about the mathematics of information science, relational data, etc, etc. I mean, one thing I consistently recommend is if you really want to see how good your skillset is at “computers,” run through Linux from Scratch. You know what? This is something that men do. And I cannot emphasize enough that guys like me in their advanced infiltrator woman suits have no problem with this recommendation! This is demonstrably not a problem with the female brain. Lots and lots of men have been able to do this or else think it's a great idea. (Cis)Women on the other hand? Ha! They think it's just me being an all-men hive mind misogynist trying to sexually harass them in some convoluted fucking way and scare them away from programming.
<sarcasm>Because, as we know, the entire depth and breadth of the subject of programming can be effectively learned in a fucking Hour of fucking Code, and it's just all us men who are engaged in a giant fucking conspiracy of 3.6 billion individuals, who lie about this to (cis)women!</sarcasm>
¹ This is something that only cisgendered women have the privilege, of which they have the privilege of being are unaware, to do. If you're a man in a woman suit, guess what! Any cisgendered privilege you had on loan up until that moment is going to evaporate in the blink of an eye, and you are going to be not only a man, not only a hacker, not only a sexually frustrated misogynerd, but a “gender confused” homosexual, AIDS-infested, perverted, disgusting, subhuman thing.
(Score: 1, Offtopic) by c0lo on Thursday August 17 2017, @02:21PM (4 children)
Which is a good thing™.
Would it be otherwise, can you imagine the number of exploded heads at the simple though of a lesbian marriage between a cis and a trans woman**? Just think about it, all the religious based arguments about "family is about procreation as God intended" going down into dust, without contradicting the "gender is a social construct" position and letting them with nothing.
(grin)
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** before sex reassignment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 1) by kurenai.tsubasa on Thursday August 17 2017, @05:21PM (3 children)
It happens, but yeah. Azuma tells no lies when she relates the “lesbian race” thing. My understanding is that what you're suggesting is the worst kind of blasphemy before the goddess Diane possible.
(I maintain that Diane cannot possibly stand before Ishtar. I only worship the most powerful imaginary friends! #MakeIshtarGreatAgain!)
Don't worry about pre-op/post-op/no-op distinctions. A trans woman who does not physically possess a penis and went and got her plumbing redone engaging in sexual relations with a cisgendered woman is still guilty of “penis-in-vagina” sex (we have an AC around here that's most definitely not me who can elaborate on feminism's views of PIV sex) and an act of physical rape in addition to the act of metaphysical rape that a trans woman engages in by daring to have estrogen in her very own blood.
This one is in Diane's bailiwick, not Yahweh's. Sexual relations between two cisgendered women (i.e. “complete” beings) is an expression and experience of the divine, the waters that existed before the evil, incomplete being Yahweh separated the pure, feminine cosmic waters¹ predating the untrue, chauvinist account of the Creation in the Bible, introducing masculinity as original sin to all existence. It has nothing to do with family, because family is a social construction of the patriarchy intended to oppress cisgendered women for various undefined diabolical ends. Family is something that all assigned males force on cisgendered women in a fit of jealousy because they are “incomplete” beings. As usual, check with Raymond, Greer, the fictional Sarah Connor, et al, the influential minds of the feminist movement.
In fact, I've heard it argued that Yahweh proscribed homosexual relations, not to oppress homosexual men (whose relationships are the moral equivalent of any other kind of sex involving somebody assigned the male gender at birth according to feminism), but to prevent womyn-born-womyn from experiencing divine communion.
It's all very fucked up. You have to go insane to even try to understand it, which is why I'm totally insane.
tl;dr When it comes to feminist cosmology, it's $current_year, and I can't even.
¹ Whether you're a feminist or not, water is always a feminine symbol. For a completely different use of water to represent the archetypal feminine, there's the Iron John myth.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday August 17 2017, @06:36PM (1 child)
What the ever-loving shit...for the record, were I single, I would date a transwoman post-surgery/post-transition. They were always women on the inside, and if they go through the effort to bring their body in line with their mind, I have no problem with it.
The rest of that is batshit insane. I am going to ask you again: will you *please* stop tarring the entire feminist movement with the ratshit-nuts brush? You're doing the equivalent of saying that since the FLDS church is a bunch of pedophile ploygamist nuts, every Jew, Christian, and Muslims is therefore a pedophile polygamist nut. You're talking about a tiny, loud minority. We've discussed this before.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 1) by kurenai.tsubasa on Thursday August 17 2017, @07:26PM
Yes, we have discussed this. I simply think you and others are mistaken about whether or not there is such a thing as a “TERF.” I've run into plenty more feminists who think you're full of it.
Batshit insane or no, that is what all kinds of feminists I have encountered, some who have even held positions of authority over me, really believe.
I readily accept that Azuma Hazuki does not believe those batshit things, but there are a lot of feminists who do and disagree with you.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday August 17 2017, @06:40PM
Addendum: I will definitely agree that good sex between women is an expression of the divine :D ...but, really, good sex between ANY people who love one another deeply is. It lets you lose your ego and melt into your lover, and in that state you become something better than your base self. It's a glimpse of transcendence, though the orgasms don't hurt!
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2, Funny) by mmh on Thursday August 17 2017, @02:31PM (1 child)
https://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/epicrapbattlesofhistory/images/8/84/What-the-fuck-am-i-reading.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/350?cb=20140209113839 [nocookie.net]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 18 2017, @01:38AM
She's saying that if a woman had done what this young man did, the BKK would have given her a pass. In more than one sense of the word.
(Score: 1) by Virindi on Friday August 18 2017, @12:42AM (6 children)
I know this is way off topic, but of course I feel the need to respond...
You are taking the norm here and overgeneralizing it. It is absolutely not true that 100% of born-female individuals are nontechnical and lack the drive to independently learn how things work in a deep way (that seems to be what you are getting at?). I have counterexamples, individuals of this class who are genuinely technical and driven to learn and would happily configure and build their own operating system, or delve into a complex system interaction problem, or engineer and build a clever new physical machine.
I will grant you that it is not common. However, speaking as if it doesn't exist is not fair and not accurate.
Hell, some of us are even libertarians who seek to prioritize each individual's ability to lead their own life without interference from budybodies (government or otherwise). That doesn't jive with the stereotype either.
Yes, some born-females are independent thinkers. Sorry.
(Score: 1) by Virindi on Friday August 18 2017, @12:44AM
s/budybodies/busybodies
(Score: 1) by kurenai.tsubasa on Friday August 18 2017, @02:54AM (4 children)
I don't see how feminism is in any way compatible with libertarianism. The support feminism has for big government interference in trans folks' lives is disgusting, simply from the principle that once you establish a precedent that government can control people's bodies and sex lives simply for being nonconforming, what other ways is government going to decide to control people's bodies and sex lives? How does a law requiring a minimum breast size of D-cup sound, besides hyperbolic, as some kind of pedophilia eradication initiative? Think of the children! Works every time, as I'm sure any libertarian is used to watching in dismay.
So that's great that you're a free and independent thinker. That would seem to exclude you from feminism.
(Score: 1) by Virindi on Friday August 18 2017, @03:33AM (3 children)
Perhaps, and that depends on how you define "feminism"*. However, for the purposes of this discussion, what I was objecting to was equating "feminism" with "all (cis)women".
*I would say I am a "feminist" but my definition of it would require blind equality of opportunity and treatment for all individuals rather than equality of outcomes or blaming of specific groups. In my view, scapegoating whole groups of individuals based on general factors is an evil way of thinking which is dangerous for human society. That goes the same for if the scapegoat class is "men", "(cis)women", "jews", whatever. It is the same type of thinking regardless of the target.
(Score: 1) by Virindi on Friday August 18 2017, @04:01AM (2 children)
Allow me to clarify my alternate definition of "feminism" as well:
My mom is a feminist. When she got her first job out of university, it was a job that had never been done by a woman before. When she went to the bank to open an account to deposit her paycheck, they told her she could not do so without the permission of her husband. All banks in the area had a similar policy. She had to resort to legal threats to get them to open the account, and even then "their system" "did not allow" this type of setup.
The Social Security Administration had the same "system" problem as well. When she made money, they assigned her income to her husband even though he was not earning income at the time. Even today it is a legal battle to get those paid taxes correctly assigned. Their system was simply not set up to allow this circumstance.
These types of "systems" were prevalent into the 1980s.
She considers herself a proud feminist. To her, it means a rejection of this type of discrimination; that each person should be treated as an individual without assumptions based on their gender.
(Score: 1) by kurenai.tsubasa on Friday August 18 2017, @01:24PM (1 child)
Right. I'm sure the discrimination your mother faced excuses the discrimination I've faced. Try again. Two wrongs don't make a right. You seriously don't think I've faced shit like that before? Yeah, and I'm sure I just deserve to face retribution for what happened to your mother, because I was assigned to the male gender caste at birth, and that makes me, along will every other assigned male on the planet, collectively and severally accountable for that shit.
But maybe three wrongs can make a right! I have a suggestion. Perhaps any time a cisgendered woman wants to open a bank account without her husband's permission, let's require her to begin undergoing testosterone HRT.
See, this is how it is. When the gender caste system that's a fundamental part of feminism doesn't work out well for cisgendered women, we have to change the caste system. When it doesn't work out well for any other demographic, feminists just hurl insults. If you're a csigendered man, now you're sexually frustrated! It never occurs once to a feminist that cisgendered men can be homosexual, as in they have absolutely no fucking goddamned interest in your fucking bodies! If you're a trans man, you're a traitor. You're confused. You've been recruited. So, the feminist then must needs seek out the person who “recruited” and corrupted the trans man. If you're a trans woman, you're mentally ill. You're “gender confused.” Not only that, but if you're a trans woman, you're Schrödinger's rapist gone fucking super saiyan!
Would feminism have revoked my regular doctor privileges if I were a complacent, docile assigned male and good little sex object to a womyn-born-womyn? If I had the permission of my girlfriend, then would feminism be ok with my doctor prescribing meds to me that feminism believes should be illegal to give to anybody who is not a womyn-born-womyn?
(Score: 1) by Virindi on Friday August 18 2017, @10:49PM
Perhaps you misunderstand. What I was saying was that there are people who consider themselves "feminists" who aren't about blaming someone. There are people who consider themselves "feminists" who do not want any caste system. And your birth gender (and chosen gender) is your business not mine and should have no effect on your treatment by society.
Neither my mom nor I consider any group to be the enemy, the purpose of the story was to describe the things that we are against. If crap like that happens to you, we are against that too.
I understand that this may differ significantly from the attitude of others who call themselves "feminists", especially in academia. I understand there are people who, instead of ending abuses, want to switch from being the abused to the abuser. Everyone does not think like that.
(Score: 3, Informative) by wonkey_monkey on Thursday August 17 2017, @08:19PM (2 children)
Well, I guess I can call myself a physicist now.
systemd is Roko's Basilisk
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 17 2017, @11:53PM
I guess you can call yourself an editor now. It could have said "Curious Teenager." Oh look, I'm an editor too!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 18 2017, @02:37PM
FTFY: Well, I guess I can call myself a teenage physicist now.