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posted by Fnord666 on Thursday August 17 2017, @11:24PM   Printer-friendly
from the vendor-lock-in-101 dept.

Arthur T Knackerbracket has found the following story:

Microsoft reckons its forthcoming Azure Stack on-premises cloud needs a special breed of sysadmin to keep it humming.

The company describes that worthy as a " Azure Stack Operator" and says they will be "Responsible for operating Azure Stack infrastructure end-to-end – planning, deployment and integration, packaging and offering cloud resources and requested services on the infrastructure."

[...] True to form, Microsoft will try to monetize these roles: it's flagged a new five-day course titled "Configuring and Operating a Hybrid Cloud with Microsoft Azure Stack" that will debut on September 18th. When, presumably, we'll also learn what it costs to become an Azure Stack Operator and how quickly the certification will expire. ®


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  • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 17 2017, @11:38PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 17 2017, @11:38PM (#555627)

    The trouble is, they're also free to include advertisements even if we do donate.

    The advantage of Firefox for me was always the plug-ins, which let me do things like block ads and stop flash. This made the free Firefox better than the free IE which came with my machine.

    Now the free IE has a working adblock (same folks that make the Firefox adblock). Firefox keeps changing the UI in annoying ways, and already has annoyed me enough to make me switch to a Mozilla fork rather than use straight Firefox.

    So... why should I pay to keep Firefox from getting more annoying, when it's already about par with IE (which I've already kind of paid for)? Especially when the Firefox developers proved willing to ignore the vast number of users who have decried their UI changes? Why should they suddenly start listening now?

    At least with IE, I expect the pain. Firefox started as a solution to IE... now it's just moving the pain to a slightly different place.

    • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 18 2017, @12:53AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 18 2017, @12:53AM (#555653)

      Is this a DB error? Bug? AC posted in wrong article (last Firefox one was days ago)? The text makes sense... but not in this Azure article.

      • (Score: 2) by frojack on Friday August 18 2017, @08:29AM

        by frojack (1554) on Friday August 18 2017, @08:29AM (#555772) Journal

        Maybe its those damn Azure Stack sysadmins dicking around with the hot swap virtual drives again.

        I keep telling management that the best sysop is a man and a German Shepard Attack dog.
        The man is there to feed the dog, and the dog is there to make sure the man doesn't touch the machine.

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  • (Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Thursday August 17 2017, @11:40PM (11 children)

    by MichaelDavidCrawford (2339) Subscriber Badge <mdcrawford@gmail.com> on Thursday August 17 2017, @11:40PM (#555629) Homepage Journal

    I met some guy at the Blanchet House Of Hospitality who had just gotten fired by Microsoft.

    His fatal mistake?

    He was a Windows 7 MCSE. Microsoft had just shipped Windows 8.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 17 2017, @11:47PM (9 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 17 2017, @11:47PM (#555631)

      Explain how a guy "who had just gotten fired by Microsoft" was immediately homeless. Was he an unpaid intern? Not collecting a paycheck? Incapable of saving any money? Formerly living in the break room at Microsoft?

      • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Ethanol-fueled on Friday August 18 2017, @12:00AM

        by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Friday August 18 2017, @12:00AM (#555636) Homepage

        Cocaine is a helluva drug, and many old sysadmins are still stuck in the seventies and eighties.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 18 2017, @12:02AM (5 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 18 2017, @12:02AM (#555637)

        I believe he is using the word homeless tongue in cheek. Pretty sure you can safely assume he meant jobless.

      • (Score: 3, Informative) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Friday August 18 2017, @12:29AM

        by MichaelDavidCrawford (2339) Subscriber Badge <mdcrawford@gmail.com> on Friday August 18 2017, @12:29AM (#555645) Homepage Journal

        but even so I never saved a penny of it. I always had more debt than my pay would cover.

        Here's how to deal with a collection agent:

        "I'm homeless. The only reason I get to eat is soup kitchens."

        They never called again.

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      • (Score: 2) by frojack on Friday August 18 2017, @08:32AM

        by frojack (1554) on Friday August 18 2017, @08:32AM (#555773) Journal

        just gotten fired by Microsoft" was immediately homeless.

        He took all those mind numbing Microsoft Courses. He was unfit for any IT job.

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    • (Score: 2) by CoolHand on Friday August 18 2017, @06:23PM

      by CoolHand (438) on Friday August 18 2017, @06:23PM (#556014) Journal

      He was a Windows 7 MCSE. Microsoft had just shipped Windows 8.

      It's been a while since I worked on any Microsoft certs, but from what I remember, MCSE is a server certification not a desktop certification (i.e., he would be certified MCSE on Windows server 2008, or 2012, or whatever)

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Friday August 18 2017, @12:27AM (2 children)

    by MichaelDavidCrawford (2339) Subscriber Badge <mdcrawford@gmail.com> on Friday August 18 2017, @12:27AM (#555643) Homepage Journal

    -GPONIES!!

    Using the cloud is supposed to enable you to cruelly fire all your administrators.

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    • (Score: 2) by arslan on Friday August 18 2017, @12:38AM

      by arslan (3462) on Friday August 18 2017, @12:38AM (#555646)

      So that you can rehire all of them as stack operators!

      The spice must flow!

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 18 2017, @12:43AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 18 2017, @12:43AM (#555648)

      > ...fire all your administrators

      fire all your well paid administrators and train up some former grocery store cashiers

      ftfy?

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by aristarchus on Friday August 18 2017, @01:18AM (1 child)

    by aristarchus (2645) on Friday August 18 2017, @01:18AM (#555657) Journal

    Azure Stack on-premises cloud needs a special breed of sysadmin to keep it humming.

    So this is how Micro$erft is saying Linux these days? Hotmail, anyone? Oh, how quickly they forget! Never forget! Always remember!

    • (Score: 3, Funny) by Gaaark on Friday August 18 2017, @02:11AM

      by Gaaark (41) on Friday August 18 2017, @02:11AM (#555673) Journal

      Maybe it should read 'Special', cause you needs to be on the little yellow bus to still be using windows!

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 18 2017, @02:28AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 18 2017, @02:28AM (#555679)

    Microsoft's stuff is sufficiently opaque that a training course is probably justified.

    But if they wanted to be smart, it'd be a free course, or at least free to people who bought the damn thing. Because otherwise you'll just have a bunch of customers calling support and not enjoying their product.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 18 2017, @09:36AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 18 2017, @09:36AM (#555791)

    Or do they mean another form of special?

  • (Score: 2) by kaszz on Friday August 18 2017, @10:39AM

    by kaszz (4211) on Friday August 18 2017, @10:39AM (#555819) Journal

    What Microsoft says is that Azure will be used to create a new breed of serfs that will be dependent for their income on Microsoft. You can of course defect but then you either have to write of your course investment and find new customers. Or you just continue to add another course on your unpaid time which drags you even deeper into the empire.

  • (Score: 2) by pendorbound on Friday August 18 2017, @02:12PM (1 child)

    by pendorbound (2688) on Friday August 18 2017, @02:12PM (#555880) Homepage

    VMware has special courses and administrator certifications. This doesn't seem unreasonable. There's a lot of complexity to scaling all the parts of a large virtualized infrastructure and keeping it going.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 18 2017, @07:52PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 18 2017, @07:52PM (#556068)

      Virtualization stacks which is what this is, are becoming a sysadmin role in many orgs. On premise is a big deal in many industries where there is regulatory privacy and contractual up-time requirements. Many of those companies are rolling their own. That VMWare and MS are seeing that their customers are passing on their stacks because it is not on premise is not surprising. That they are bundling it and letting them do on premise for a fee is not too surprising either. At the current org I am at they are currently growing their own. They are going from a 4 month lead time and 2 month design, to 1-2 day standup and build and deliver. That is a huge deal to them. Most of the lead time was to go back and re-audit things and then usually buying more equipment. Stacks like this let you get ahead of it and automate the problem.

      Keep those racks going in a 'particular' way does take a different kind of mantra than a toss a bunch of servers together sysadmin. Anyone who thinks differently will find out quick you need to have discipline, repeatably, and higher reliability than you are used to.

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