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posted by Fnord666 on Friday September 22 2017, @08:32PM   Printer-friendly
from the should-have-drafted-Demi-Moore dept.

The U.S. Marine Corps will soon have its first female infantry officer. The unnamed lieutenant is expected to lead an infantry platoon of about 40 marines:

The Marine Corps is set to have its first female infantry officer, a milestone in its nearly 250-year-long history.

The lieutenant is scheduled to graduate with her all-male peers on Monday after she completed all of the graduation requirements in the service's grueling 13-week Infantry Officer Course, the Corps said. Her completion of the course was first reported by The Washington Post. The officer's name was not made public.

The course was opened to women in 2012, and on an experimental basis. More than 30 women attempted it, but when none passed, the course was once again closed to females in the spring of 2015. After the Pentagon opened all military jobs to women, four additional women tried the course without success.

Also at The Hill.


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  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by Bobs on Friday September 22 2017, @08:42PM (55 children)

    by Bobs (1462) on Friday September 22 2017, @08:42PM (#571797)

    As long as she can meet the same requirements, who cares if she sits to pee?

    To qualify, she, along with all the others, are incredibly tough.

    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 22 2017, @08:46PM (13 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 22 2017, @08:46PM (#571801)

      This is the face of modern tolerance folks. Backhanded, but the respect is there.

      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 22 2017, @09:28PM (12 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 22 2017, @09:28PM (#571832)

        I don't see anything backhanded.

        Relevant concern: meeting standards.

        Irrelevant concern: personal plumbing.

        If you think that a realistic recognition of physiological differences is backhanded, you're part of the problem.

        • (Score: 0, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 22 2017, @10:04PM (11 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 22 2017, @10:04PM (#571840)

          What amuses me to no end with you cisgendered shits (I assume, but since we're all AC, we could all be lizard people for all anybody knows) is that if you would have had objective standards for shit in the first place instead of organizing your society into a rigidly enforced caste system, there wouldn't be any angst whatsoever over somebody with a low blood testosterone level rising to the challenge.

          No, it doesn't amuse me. It irritates me because I'm stuck here on this planet with all of you dipshits.

          Speaking of, are we sure she's in the correct caste? Has anybody measured her clitoris and taken blood samples like you do with your athletes?

          You can tell which caste is the superior caste and which is the inferior caste, because anybody may be ejected from the superior caste by failing such superficial tests. I've yet to hear of somebody forced to compete in the female caste because they didn't meet the superficial standards for the male caste. The only thing that's notable here is that somebody from the superior caste is taking up a task that is normally relegated to the inferior caste: being cannon fodder to advance the international bankers' (regardless of any banker's ethnicity or religion) interests abroad.

          You people are all incorrigible.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 22 2017, @10:18PM (10 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 22 2017, @10:18PM (#571854)

            What does "cisgendered" mean?

            • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 22 2017, @10:27PM (2 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 22 2017, @10:27PM (#571859)

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cisgender [wikipedia.org]

              Cisgender (often abbreviated to simply cis) is a term for people whose gender identity matches the sex that they were assigned at birth. Cisgender may also be defined as those who have "a gender identity or perform a gender role society considers appropriate for one's sex". It is the opposite of the term transgender.

              https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cisgender [urbandictionary.com]

              an adjective for someone whose gender corresponds to their assigned sex

              I am perfectly comfortable identifying as the gender my parents put on my birth certificate. I am cisgender.

              http://time.com/3636430/cisgender-definition/ [time.com]

              Cisgender is a word that applies to the vast majority of people, describing a person who is not transgender.

              Also known as "cis scum".

              • (Score: 2) by bob_super on Friday September 22 2017, @10:52PM

                by bob_super (1357) on Friday September 22 2017, @10:52PM (#571875)

                > the vast majority of

                What a quaint way of saying "the quasi-totality of" or "all but a few of"

              • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Phoenix666 on Saturday September 23 2017, @12:09PM

                by Phoenix666 (552) on Saturday September 23 2017, @12:09PM (#572076) Journal

                So in other words, "man" and "woman." We do have those perfectly serviceable words to describe people whose gender identity matches their genitals.

                Gender studies is an interesting field. Having a gender identity that does not map to "man" or "woman" must be lonely, painful, and difficult. But resorting to semantic archana to redefine "man" and "woman" as something other than standard is passive aggressive. More, it's weak.

                You're different. Different is good. If you are feeling alienated and uncomfortable because your neighbors don't respect you, move to New York. It's the city of black sheep. Celebrate who you are and cherish the unique perspective you bring to the world around you, here. I guarantee nobody would look at you sideways.

                Anyway, embrace your identity. Don't cheapen it by lashing out at others with petty word games. You're better than that.

                --
                Washington DC delenda est.
            • (Score: 0, Troll) by jmorris on Friday September 22 2017, @11:23PM (6 children)

              by jmorris (4844) on Friday September 22 2017, @11:23PM (#571894)

              What does "cisgendered" mean?

              Normal. Opposite of defective.

              • (Score: 2, Flamebait) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday September 23 2017, @05:36AM (4 children)

                by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Saturday September 23 2017, @05:36AM (#572001) Journal

                Yeah, from the local cisgender lesbian--fuck you sideways, J-Mo. I bet if we went through your browser history there'd be loads of transsexual pornography in it. You care waaaaaay too much about this stuff to be entirely secure in your sexuality and gender identity, if you ask me.

                Are trans people defective? In the sense that the latest research I've seen identifies abnormalities in one of the striae, IIRC, yes...but by this standard so are the nearsighted. What's your point, besides that you have an ick and you want everyone to know you have an ick?

                --
                I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
                • (Score: 4, Touché) by jmorris on Saturday September 23 2017, @06:04AM (3 children)

                  by jmorris (4844) on Saturday September 23 2017, @06:04AM (#572019)

                  Yea, visual defects are defects, we can correct them now but in days past they were a major handicap to survival. Not on the level of being so fudged up you can't figure out how to reproduce, but defective. Yes I wear bifocals. Difference is I'm not trying to define my entire existence around that (now) minor defect, not trying to force everyone else to redefine it as 'normal', not trying to invent and impose some bullshit made up word on everyone with eyes that do not need corrective lenses, not trying to encourage children with perfectly normal vision to wear glasses even if they might damage them. You and your prog ilk on the other hand....

                  • (Score: -1, Troll) by aristarchus on Saturday September 23 2017, @09:33AM (1 child)

                    by aristarchus (2645) on Saturday September 23 2017, @09:33AM (#572054) Journal

                    Little know fact: jmorris has no offspring. Infact, jmorris has no spring. And, jmorris never had a Rumspringa, so by default, jmorris is a virgin. Can we sacrifice him now? Burning man is just over, but the WickerMan is just getting started. jmorris is profoundly defective, mostly mentally, but also morally, so we can only speculate about the rest of him. jmorris! Have you ever danced with the Devil in the Pale Moon light? Or toyed with the idea of voting for Ted Cruz?

                    • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Saturday September 23 2017, @12:15PM

                      by Phoenix666 (552) on Saturday September 23 2017, @12:15PM (#572077) Journal

                      And, jmorris never had a Rumspringa

                      Wait, you think he's Amish? I really don't think so, man. He's posting on the Intertubes, a very un-Amish activity. Unless he was the little boy from Witness and has since gone wrong...

                      --
                      Washington DC delenda est.
                  • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday September 24 2017, @09:33PM

                    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Sunday September 24 2017, @09:33PM (#572460) Journal

                    Good Lord, do you think I go around trying to "turn" straight women or something? You actually believe there's some big gay plot to convert the human race to homosexuality--not that that's even possible, if the science is right--and crash the population or God knows what else?

                    This is the mark of either incurable intellectual laziness (i.e., you heard this from somewhere and went "hurr seems legit") or insanity. No, I don't want more lesbians out there. So long as one particular one, my girlfriend, exists, I wouldn't care if no one else was but us.

                    --
                    I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
              • (Score: 2) by unauthorized on Saturday September 23 2017, @01:21PM

                by unauthorized (3776) on Saturday September 23 2017, @01:21PM (#572089)

                The opposite of normal is abnormal. Abnormal does not necessarily imply malfunctioning, humans for instance are abnormal as far as Earthen organisms are concerned.

    • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 22 2017, @08:50PM (11 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 22 2017, @08:50PM (#571803)

      A female marine.

      Well that's OK as long as you don't mind the breakdown of society and the ruin of all things true and great in America.

      EXACTLY like how "those people" broke America 5, 20, 50 and 100 years ago. Hurricaine Whatshisface proved all this by the way.

      • (Score: 2) by Gaaark on Friday September 22 2017, @08:56PM

        by Gaaark (41) on Friday September 22 2017, @08:56PM (#571809) Journal

        Hurricaine Solorcaine?

        Hurricaine Migraine?

        --
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      • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 22 2017, @08:58PM (7 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 22 2017, @08:58PM (#571812)

        Well that's OK as long as you don't mind the breakdown of society and the ruin of all things true and great in America.

        EXACTLY like how "those people" broke America 5, 20, 50 and 100 years ago. Hurricaine Whatshisface proved all this by the way.

        It took SN three--count 'em!! Three!!!--to get to "it's the end of the world as we know it". You guys are off your game today. Sad!

        • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 22 2017, @11:16PM (6 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 22 2017, @11:16PM (#571887)

          Evidently the AC above has never met any female Marines. There have been lots, just no officers. If they had met a female Marine, society would not be broken down, but their sorry ass would be in short order. I would love to see the conservative sexist ex-Googler explain to this one how women are biologically incapable of command! Ah! Fun times!

          • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 23 2017, @01:46AM (3 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 23 2017, @01:46AM (#571935)

            I assume you're talking about Damore?

            If so, you need to do your research. He's not conservative, and he didn't say that women are biologically incapable of command - in fact, kind of the opposite.

            Did you even read the memo? It's not that long. You really should.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 23 2017, @03:49AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 23 2017, @03:49AM (#571989)

              Seems like the only thing that will save America is nuking all the idiots without fallout shelters ready :)

              Of course some of our brave soldiers will have to clean out a few shelters with idiots in them, like all the major capitols and capitals :)

            • (Score: 0, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 23 2017, @09:41AM (1 child)

              by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 23 2017, @09:41AM (#572055)

              Damore explicitly referred to people being afraid to come out as gay conservative, so I suspect that he is a fucking Republican, if not a full on alt-wrong neo-liberal nazi white wale motherfucking douche bag of the highest order. Yes, I read the memo. The dick (double entendre intended) needed to be fucking fired! I would not want such a stupid cunt of a man working in my organization, and again, I expect that any, and I mean _any_ female Marine would tear his balls from his frame and stuff them down his throat so he could have at least one orgasm in his short an pathetic life. So, what about you, my fellow AC? Are you in need of loving attention, from the Corps? If not, fuck off. The US Military does not discriminate.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 23 2017, @05:04PM

                by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 23 2017, @05:04PM (#572133)

                Actually, Damore's political background is pretty well known because of the shitstorm that surrounded him.

                You read SoylentNews, you may as well read the history of something you're commenting on.

          • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Saturday September 23 2017, @05:56AM

            by DeathMonkey (1380) on Saturday September 23 2017, @05:56AM (#572014) Journal

            Evidently the AC above has never met any female Marines.

            The North Vietnamese army was about 50% female and they kicked the shit out of our 100% male marines.

            Also, GP was being sarcastic.

          • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Saturday September 23 2017, @12:31PM

            by Phoenix666 (552) on Saturday September 23 2017, @12:31PM (#572085) Journal

            I have met several female Marines. It's not an uncommon female name in Russia and France. It would have been stranger to meet male Marines, much as it would be for us to encounter a man (non-drag queen) called Penelope.

            --
            Washington DC delenda est.
      • (Score: 2) by Foobar Bazbot on Friday September 22 2017, @10:04PM (1 child)

        by Foobar Bazbot (37) on Friday September 22 2017, @10:04PM (#571841) Journal

        Poe's law, anyone? Pretty sure that wasn't a serious comment; to me the straight-faced declaration that all things true and great in America have been ruined 4 times already was a giveaway. Or if it is serious, you have to admire his trust in our society's resilience, to keep bouncing back and rebuilding "things true and great" from the ruins every couple decades.

        • (Score: 3, Funny) by DeathMonkey on Saturday September 23 2017, @05:58AM

          by DeathMonkey (1380) on Saturday September 23 2017, @05:58AM (#572016) Journal

          Clearly, the Democrats ruing everything every 8 years and our patriotic Republicans have to step in, adult-up, and fix everything!

          (yes, this is also sarcasm)

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 22 2017, @09:02PM (18 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 22 2017, @09:02PM (#571816)

      She'll have to sit on the edge of the boat, out far enough that her pee doesn't spray into the boat. It wouldn't take much of a wave to tip her right out of the boat, feeding her to the giant squid and killer whales.

      The men only need to sit for poo, but that is less trouble. They can plop it directly into the M203 grenade launcher, then fire it overboard. There are options for poo.

      • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 22 2017, @09:08PM (7 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 22 2017, @09:08PM (#571820)

        Reward the troops. Golden shower.

        • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Saturday September 23 2017, @05:59AM (5 children)

          by DeathMonkey (1380) on Saturday September 23 2017, @05:59AM (#572017) Journal

          They don't call it "the head" for nothing!

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 23 2017, @06:13AM (4 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 23 2017, @06:13AM (#572022)

            Turtle's head?

            • (Score: 3, Informative) by aristarchus on Saturday September 23 2017, @09:56AM (3 children)

              by aristarchus (2645) on Saturday September 23 2017, @09:56AM (#572056) Journal

              Of the many things Soylentils are blissfully ignorant of, one is the nautical life. Some have tried to remedy this by quoting Herman Melville. But the basic terminology is still lacking.

              Head. On a ship, a head is more properly a capstan head. This is the ratcheting spindle that usually coils a rode (((anchor line, for you landlubbers) or chain to hoist an anchor. Now, point being, the "heads", or aforementioned winches, are usually situated at or near the bow of the vessel ("front", again for you landlubbers). In most sailing, of large ships as well a small, a downwind course is more favorable, less pounding, in the off quarter better speed, et cetera. But the important thing, is that sailors used to relieve themselves where the anchor leads lead out, or at the heads. Thus the origin of the naval term for a "facility". But, as in most things, the cap'n's quarters were aft, or upwind from the heads on most headings, much like the West End of London was for the lower classes, because of the prevailing winds that put it downwind.

              Now, mind you, another sailing author is to be paid attention to. Kipling said:

              AS I was spittin’ into the Ditch aboard o’ the Crocodile,
              I seed a man on a man-o’-war got up in the Reg’lars’ style.
              ’E was scrapin’ the paint from off of ’er plates, an’ I sez to ’im, “’Oo are you?”
              Sez ’e, “I’m a Jolly—’Er Majesty’s Jolly—soldier an’ sailor too!”
              Now ’is work begins by Gawd knows when, and ’is work is never through; 5
              ’E isn’t one o’ the reg’lar Line, nor ’e isn’t one of the crew.
              ’E’s a kind of a giddy harumfrodite—soldier an’ sailor too!

              Marines! Harumfrodite Marines that could kick jmorriss' but from here to Timbucktoo!

              • (Score: 1, Flamebait) by aristarchus on Saturday September 23 2017, @10:02AM (2 children)

                by aristarchus (2645) on Saturday September 23 2017, @10:02AM (#572058) Journal

                Or was it the East End?
                Which way does the wind blow in London?

                More importantly, link for the Kipling: http://www.bartleby.com/364/229.html [bartleby.com]

                I prefer Conrad or Melville to Kipling, but when it comes to the Heart of Darkness that Was British Imperialism, does it really matter what side you were on? (Wait for it: sarcastic remark- - - not meant to be taken literally---jmorris is still a dick. )

                • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 23 2017, @02:38PM (1 child)

                  by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 23 2017, @02:38PM (#572111)
                  "jmorris is still a dick." I've seen your kind of petulance before. KKK members have it. No matter what goes wrong, it's the nigger's fault. Nazi members have it - no matter what goes wrong, it's the jew's fault. With you, it's one of a half dozen boogey-men that you chase around Soylent. So, what kind of uniform do you wear? You have spit-shined jackboots? Black uniform, with lightning bolt insignia? We want pics!!
                  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by aristarchus on Saturday September 23 2017, @06:30PM

                    by aristarchus (2645) on Saturday September 23 2017, @06:30PM (#572147) Journal

                    Are you seriously suggesting jmorris is not a dick? After all, he did post this:

                    What does "cisgendered" mean?

                    Normal. Opposite of defective.

                    While jmorris is not the cause of all the ills of the world, or even all the evils of the alt-wrong, he does own this. Clearly he is not normal.

        • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Saturday September 23 2017, @12:17PM

          by Phoenix666 (552) on Saturday September 23 2017, @12:17PM (#572079) Journal

          Some pay extra for that.

          --
          Washington DC delenda est.
      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 22 2017, @10:09PM (4 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 22 2017, @10:09PM (#571843)

        I wasn't aware that it's not possible to piss in a container. I'll also have to forget all those products I've looked up for the unlikely event magic starts existing or I win the lottery that people with that plumbing configuration can use to take a piss standing up while camping. Those apparently cannot be used on a boat.

        I learn new, interesting shit about you cisgendered folks and your caste system every day!

        • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday September 23 2017, @05:52AM (3 children)

          by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Saturday September 23 2017, @05:52AM (#572010) Journal

          LOL, I got to try a SheWee once. Really not getting what's so great about standing to take a whiz though.

          --
          I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
          • (Score: 4, Funny) by aristarchus on Saturday September 23 2017, @10:11AM (1 child)

            by aristarchus (2645) on Saturday September 23 2017, @10:11AM (#572059) Journal

            Actually, the only real benefit to peeing standing up, is the writing. You can write your name in the snow. Also works on sand. If you have the capacity, entire sonnets or mid-sized poetic works are possible. But really, a pen and paper are much more convenient, and longer lasting, than any penis and any medium. So really it is a faux advantage.

            • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Phoenix666 on Saturday September 23 2017, @12:20PM

              by Phoenix666 (552) on Saturday September 23 2017, @12:20PM (#572081) Journal

              You can also more effectively pee on trees, walls, boulders, and such to mark your territory and keep the wolves away from your campsite. When bored, it's fun to play with. The wonders of the marvelous penis. Click to learn more...

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              Washington DC delenda est.
          • (Score: 2) by unauthorized on Saturday September 23 2017, @01:39PM

            by unauthorized (3776) on Saturday September 23 2017, @01:39PM (#572094)

            It saves you a few seconds, but I'd say the most significant advantage is the much longer urethra, meaning a lot less urinary tract infections you have to deal with.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 22 2017, @10:15PM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 22 2017, @10:15PM (#571850)

        The men only need to sit for poo, but that is less trouble. They can plop it directly into the M203 grenade launcher, then fire it overboard. There are options for poo.

        Ooh! I'm patenting a cupped-piston munition with waterproof seal for the M203 -- you can pour "any" liquid down the barrel, where it collects in the piston's cup, then loft it skyward! There wlll, of course, be an airburst charge, to ensure the proper dispersal of the liquid on target.

        Think of it as a technological assist in pissing contests, allowing you to boldly go where no man has gone before -- I bet it'll actually be even more popular with the gents than the ladies!

        Kids throwing urine bottles of overpasses? Strike back! etc.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 22 2017, @10:40PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 22 2017, @10:40PM (#571866)

          Nope, nope, the Guardians of the Caste System have spoken. Such urine projection distance assistance devices could (if I'm understanding correctly) lead to a complete breakdown of the caste system underpinning their society. We're talking Old Testament, AC, real wrath of Goddess type stuff. Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies! Rivers and seas boiling! Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes, the dead rising from the grave! Human sacrifice! Dogs and cats living together! Mass hysteria!

        • (Score: 3, Funny) by bob_super on Friday September 22 2017, @10:56PM

          by bob_super (1357) on Friday September 22 2017, @10:56PM (#571878)

          > you can pour "any" liquid down the barrel, where it collects in the piston's cup, then loft it skyward! There wlll, of course, be an airburst charge, to ensure the proper dispersal of the liquid on target

          I'll buy 50, and 100 liters of coke, and hire as many Russian whores as required.
          Can I deduct party costs from my taxes, when it's to distract the president from declaring war on anyone?

      • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Friday September 22 2017, @11:50PM

        by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Friday September 22 2017, @11:50PM (#571905) Journal

        She'll have to sit on the edge of the boat,

        Because, being marines, they spend all their life on boats, right?

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      • (Score: 2) by tibman on Saturday September 23 2017, @05:06AM

        by tibman (134) Subscriber Badge on Saturday September 23 2017, @05:06AM (#572000)

        M203 doesn't work that way. It's breach loaded from the side. If you tried to shit down the barrel then you'd have to point your rifle at your dick. Safety on the m203 is bad enough already.

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    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 22 2017, @10:13PM (3 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 22 2017, @10:13PM (#571847)

      The important question to ask is, was she born a female? The articles aren't clear about this.

      I'm not joking, either. Too many times I've seen news articles that are trying to be politically correct referring to "females", only to later find out that these "females" were born as males, lived until into adulthood as males, still have a penis/scrotum/testes, and only feel that they're "females".

      The significance of this story can differ a lot based on what the reality is.

      A female who was born female accomplishing this after so many others have failed could make this a big deal. There are many obstacles that were overcome, including many physical and mental ones that most males would struggle with.

      A male who just prefers to be referred to as a female accomplishing this doesn't seem as significant.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 22 2017, @10:51PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 22 2017, @10:51PM (#571874)

        And here's the feminist AC who doesn't believe in hormone replacement or brain sex. I assume you also believe that gender is merely a social construct that requires a rigidly enforced caste system.

        • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 22 2017, @10:59PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 22 2017, @10:59PM (#571881)

          Wat.

      • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 22 2017, @11:41PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 22 2017, @11:41PM (#571899)

        only to later find out that these "females" were born as males, lived until into adulthood as males, still have a penis/scrotum/testes, and only feel that they're "females".

        "Crying Game", huh? Actually happened to you? Didn't we tell you not to be picking stuff up off the street? And now you are in "Your Own Private Idaho". Stop complaining, you polymorphous pervert.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 22 2017, @11:22PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 22 2017, @11:22PM (#571892)

      For fuck's sake, man, I'm a male and I sit to pee...

      • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 23 2017, @01:52AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 23 2017, @01:52AM (#571939)

        I kneel to pee.

        I kneel, and ask my mistress's permission.

    • (Score: 2) by VLM on Saturday September 23 2017, @12:09AM (3 children)

      by VLM (445) on Saturday September 23 2017, @12:09AM (#571910)

      if she sits to pee

      Technically, "she" could be pre-op trans, as in born male but feels like a girl and still pees perfectly well standing up. Which fits in with the whole HIPPA like thing about not naming her. You can name an infantry officer in public; the trans issue gets into disclosure of medical illness territory. This theory seems to fit the observed facts pretty well. I'd be willing to guess "she" was recently a "he" and medically is still a dude or at least is still peeing standing up.

      This is also going to be an interesting issue for the Olympics. If its not handled carefully basically all "female" world records and medals will soon be held by born-male-trans-call-me-a-woman people. Yeah I know it sounds crazy but devoted athletes have done crazier stuff to win...

      • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 23 2017, @02:34AM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 23 2017, @02:34AM (#571953)

        Or maybe she's not named because she prefers actually doing her job instead of becoming a poster child for feminism worldwide and being paraded around? I'm sure Sam Biddle is on the case, fearless journalism etc.

        • (Score: 2) by VLM on Sunday September 24 2017, @12:44PM

          by VLM (445) on Sunday September 24 2017, @12:44PM (#572298)

          because she prefers

          Just guessing that AC has never been in the military. That usually isn't a very high priority for upper ranks WRT folks at the bottom in .mil

          Also this isn't the first time a "girl" has done a "boy" job and historically the .mil absolutely poops itself with journalistic excitement. However WRT medical information about specific service members, historically the .mil goes all secret squirrel. Conclusion is this isn't a story about classical feminism so much as a story about someone's transitioning medical records.

      • (Score: 2, Troll) by realDonaldTrump on Saturday September 23 2017, @07:52AM

        by realDonaldTrump (6614) on Saturday September 23 2017, @07:52AM (#572038) Homepage Journal

        Believe me, I will not accept or allow Transgender individuals to serve in any capacity in the U.S. Military. In any capacity. Our military must be focused on decisive and overwhelming victory and cannot be burdened with the tremendous medical costs and disruption that transgender in the military would entail. It’s been a very confusing issue for the military, and I think I’m doing the military a great favor. #MAGA 🇺🇸

  • (Score: 2) by Gaaark on Friday September 22 2017, @08:54PM

    by Gaaark (41) on Friday September 22 2017, @08:54PM (#571806) Journal

    Is her name Brienne? Of Tarth?

    "All my life men like you've sneered at me, and all my life I've been knocking men like you into the dust."

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    --- Please remind me if I haven't been civil to you: I'm channeling MDC. ---Gaaark 2.0 ---
  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by leftover on Friday September 22 2017, @10:39PM

    by leftover (2448) on Friday September 22 2017, @10:39PM (#571865)

    In combat, many aspects of toughness have nothing to do with physical strength and much to do with mental resilience. So-called "modern" combat, conducted in the middle of civilian populations, calls for even more of the mental skills and stability under pressure that most women outperform most men. There have already been stories of female soldiers (yes, they were Army) making breakthrough improvements in relations with the locals. I will be interested to see the effect of a woman leading a platoon of Marines on Middle Eastern civilian populations.

    --
    Bent, folded, spindled, and mutilated.
  • (Score: 0, Flamebait) by jmorris on Saturday September 23 2017, @01:12AM (1 child)

    by jmorris (4844) on Saturday September 23 2017, @01:12AM (#571924)

    They say she is finally the long sought unicorn, the woman who can pass the same exacting physical standards that probably one in ten generic 18yo males can pass. But we are discussing SJWs and, once again class, what is Law #1 of SJWs? SJWs Always Lie. Vox Day has been a dick lately but you still need to get his book, it has too much truth in it to let his personal issues matter. But I don't even want to get distracted with a pointless argument over affirmative action, the truth of that will out eventually as it always does. No, I want to reject the implied premise. So, for the sake of debate only, I will stipulate that the only women admitted to combat positions have passed every test which can be devised and implemented in training and, on paper, are the equal of the men in their units.

    Men and women are NOT interchangeable cogs. We do not, in point of fact, WANT them to be. If we are putting women into direct combat situations, one of two results must occur, both terrible in different ways.

    First lets put a few hatefacts onto the table. Men are hard wired to defend women, especially those in their ingroup. It doesn't get a lot more "ingrouped" than an infantry unit. Men can, do, and should defend their women at the cost of their own lives because women are more valuable to the tribe / nation. None of the nation state or non nation state actors we are likely to fight even pretend men and women are alike and can and do subject female prisoners to horrors not available to males who fall into their hands. All of our fighting men, and women, know this.

    1. Knowing all of the above but commanded by the political leadership to integrate women into the combat arms, the American military does what it always does, follows orders and finds a way to achieve the goal put before it. Yea! Equality! Men and women serve in combat and no problems occur, their superior training has Immanentized The Eschaton and everything is great and we win a great victory on the battlefield. Nope. Sooner or later the war ends and the soldiers muster out into civilian life. And the men are now monsters who should, under no circumstance, be permitted to reintegrate into civilized life. They have been reprogrammed to, even under life and death stress, treat women as if they are men. Think about the implications. The couple of women in their unit might be She-Thor but when they punch out their much weaker spouse, because they are treating them like a man and she hit him, he is likely to kill her because she is a typical female. Yet by what law can he be charged? He was carefully reprogrammed by the United States Government to do exactly what he did. If a man hits you it is permissible to defend yourself, to punch back. If we are building a Foreign Legion we might consider this idea, but not with an all volunteer army where most only serve a few years.

    2. They US Military proves unequal to the task of defeating the firmware built into the Human animal by a billion years of evolution. We lose a war. To the victor goes the decision of whether to continue putting women into combat.

    • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 23 2017, @06:18AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 23 2017, @06:18AM (#572024)

      Come on just say it man... it's the End of All Things Great And True, America SHIT YEAH USA USA USA Religious Freedom FTW!! BAN TEH GAYZZZZ

  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Runaway1956 on Saturday September 23 2017, @01:35AM (2 children)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday September 23 2017, @01:35AM (#571933) Journal

    In all the time that ~30 women have failed the course, how many men have failed?

    The media hovers over every female, but they've taken no notice of the men who try and fail. I'm almost curious enough to research that question - but on the other hand, I don't really care how many men OR women have failed. Nor do I even care if any hermaphrodites have made the attempt. Don't care how many white or black people, citizens, or immigrants, tall or short, blue eyed, green eyed, or brown eyed. I couldn't even give a fuck if there are any blonde-headed people in the mix.

    I'm confident that if and when I ever have any reason to interact with an officer of the Marine Corps, that officer will be competent. And, THAT is what matters.

    Diversity, you say? Well, the Corps will destroy it's enemies with no regard for race, color, religion, gender, or even wealth. THAT IS WHAT IS IMPORTANT!!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sam4lq2WHos [youtube.com]

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 23 2017, @10:13AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 23 2017, @10:13AM (#572060)

      Spoken like a sailor, from the safety of a ship.

      • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday September 23 2017, @02:21PM

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday September 23 2017, @02:21PM (#572106) Journal

        You, Sir, are ignorant. Remember Beruit City, 1978? I was there to welcome the grunts ashore. I'm a destroyer man, and we don't wait for jarheads to show us how to get ashore.

        Alright, I'll throttle the bravado down just a little bit. All of us destroyer men were scared shitless that we were facing five different armies at the same time, each jockeying for position around the city we were trapped in. Those jarheads coming ashore were the most beautiful people we had ever seen in our lives. But, still - safety of the ship? You're ignorant.

  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by mendax on Saturday September 23 2017, @02:59AM

    by mendax (2840) on Saturday September 23 2017, @02:59AM (#571966)

    This must be one tough lady to get this far and hold her own with the guys. I know a retired woman California Highway Patrol officer who is tough as nails, both physically and psychologically. If she were 25 years younger I could see her trying something like this.

    And to the people who have noted that she has to squat in order to piss, that may be a bit of a hazard but at least she doesn't have to shave every morning (at least I hope not).

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    It's really quite a simple choice: Life, Death, or Los Angeles.
  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 23 2017, @12:15PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 23 2017, @12:15PM (#572078)

    Now where have I seen this before...

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