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posted by mrpg on Saturday September 23 2017, @09:06AM   Printer-friendly
from the woosh dept.

China is once again operating the world's fastest train service after a speed cap was lifted:

China increased the maximum speed of bullet trains on the Shanghai-Beijing line to 350 kilometers per hour yesterday, six years after a fatal accident led to a speed cap. The limit was reduced to 300kph after 40 people died in a high-speed train crash near Wenzhou, east China's Zhejiang Province, in July 2011.

The decision to increase the speed means that China once again has the world's fastest train service. The new limit cuts the time of the 1,318-kilometer journey between Shanghai and the capital to four hours and 28 minutes, saving passengers nearly an hour. A total of 14 trains a day will run between the two cities at the higher speed.

Also at Xinhua and NextBigFuture.


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 23 2017, @09:25AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 23 2017, @09:25AM (#572052)

    ...not a Hexie. Hence it's faster.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 23 2017, @10:58AM (5 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 23 2017, @10:58AM (#572070)

    Please use km/h and not kph.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 23 2017, @12:24PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 23 2017, @12:24PM (#572083)

      What's wrong with meters/second?

      • (Score: 2) by isostatic on Saturday September 23 2017, @01:45PM (1 child)

        by isostatic (365) on Saturday September 23 2017, @01:45PM (#572096) Journal

        Yes, 350kph is far too silly a speed, 9.7*10^1 m/s is far more useful.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 23 2017, @03:23PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 23 2017, @03:23PM (#572114)

          iso (static) = the perfect nick for ISO units!

    • (Score: 2) by takyon on Saturday September 23 2017, @03:26PM

      by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Saturday September 23 2017, @03:26PM (#572115) Journal

      I did. Are you nitpicking in an alternate universe?

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    • (Score: 2) by wonkey_monkey on Saturday September 23 2017, @04:39PM

      by wonkey_monkey (279) on Saturday September 23 2017, @04:39PM (#572128) Homepage

      Kelvins per hectare?

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 23 2017, @03:30PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 23 2017, @03:30PM (#572117)

    now, this winter, they can escape the pollution even faster!

  • (Score: 3, Informative) by frojack on Saturday September 23 2017, @06:10PM (7 children)

    by frojack (1554) on Saturday September 23 2017, @06:10PM (#572141) Journal

    Lu Dongfu, China Railway’s general manager, said the line had been built to the world’s highest standards and the Fuxing trains were designed to run at a maximum speed of 350kph.

    “Operating the Fuxing on this route at a speed of 350kph is without question in terms of safety, reliability and comfort,” Lu said.

    Fuxing pronounced "Foo-sing" = Rejuvenation

    The story implies the Fuxing train was involved in the 2011 crash that limited speed to 300km/h. That isn't true.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wenzhou_train_collision [wikipedia.org]

    Those trains were a previous generation based on foreign designs. A signaling problem caused two trains to collide, and neither train was moving faster than 99 km/h (62 mph) at the time. Speed was not a factor.

    Fuxing trains are a product of China's own design first introduced this year.

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    • (Score: 2) by moondrake on Saturday September 23 2017, @10:23PM (4 children)

      by moondrake (2658) on Saturday September 23 2017, @10:23PM (#572179)

      Why are you implying that "foreign" design had anything to do with the accident?

      From your own wikipedia link, it seems a signal failure was the cause.

      And "China's own design"? Really? You mean after copying the design for the first generation, they now learned enough to produce their own (lets not forget that they have been accused of patent infringement according to your link). They do the same with subway systems. Buy several designs from foreign companies, then copy what works best.

      Unfortunately they often cut corners when doing the copying (anecdotal evidence based on having lived there for a long time).

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 24 2017, @12:57AM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 24 2017, @12:57AM (#572204)

        You think this is unusual for any field? Everyone starts from scratch when they build something? No one learns from others mistakes?

        • (Score: 2) by moondrake on Sunday September 24 2017, @10:32AM

          by moondrake (2658) on Sunday September 24 2017, @10:32AM (#572276)

          No. And they can copy trains all they want as far as I am concerned (I am not a big proponent about IP, although I do think you should acknowledge where the idea came from. If there is no money involved, this would be easier).

          I was merely objecting to the idea that the "foreign design" was somehow the cause of the accident and that now it was all better. This I doubt for the reasons stated.

          Also, I have to say that many people in the Chinese research community I worked in tended to blur the line between what is mine and what is thine without giving proper attribution. IThey acknowledge people that are important (in a guanxi sense), not necessarily people that actually made a contribution (which was usually OK for me as I was important enough). I know it is a cultural thing, but it is still sometimes hard to deal with, especially when you want to point it out to them because if they lose face because of the pointing out, they will blame you, not themselves.

      • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Sunday September 24 2017, @05:00PM (1 child)

        by Phoenix666 (552) on Sunday September 24 2017, @05:00PM (#572370) Journal

        America industrialized shortly after Britain by doing the same thing. They copied and stole tech shamelessly. As annoying as China's doing the same can be, it's hypocritical to pan them for it.

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        • (Score: 2) by moondrake on Monday September 25 2017, @07:21AM

          by moondrake (2658) on Monday September 25 2017, @07:21AM (#572575)

          I am not from the US though...

          And as I said, I do not care about the copying. I do care about the attitude (maybe USians have the same attitude, if so, I probably do not like that either).

    • (Score: 1) by Guppy on Saturday September 23 2017, @11:11PM (1 child)

      by Guppy (3213) on Saturday September 23 2017, @11:11PM (#572188)

      Those trains were a previous generation based on foreign designs.

      That's the best part of pirating IP. When everything is working great, you can toot your own horn to your countrymen that it was manufactured right at home in China. When things go to shit, you can blame the accident on the foreign designers you copied!

      • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Sunday September 24 2017, @05:06PM

        by Phoenix666 (552) on Sunday September 24 2017, @05:06PM (#572372) Journal

        China's joint venture framework has been a great way to facilitate that piracy. The Chinese JV partner gets 51%, the foreign partner with the investment capital and know-how gets 49%. They build a factory together, take a couple years to have the foreigners train up the Chinese, then the Chinese partner pulls strings to get the foreign partner kicked out of the country with nothing. (Haha, laowai, you thought you could take advantage of China, but China take advantage of you!)

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