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posted by martyb on Friday October 13 2017, @01:06PM   Printer-friendly
from the do-you-see-what-I-see? dept.

"At every step along the way, the future is built by people who believe it can be better."

That's the message Mark Zuckerberg, Facebook's CEO, brought to the company's fourth annual Oculus Connect virtual reality developer conference Wednesday. As in previous years, Zuckerberg joined the stage to discuss the promise of what virtual reality can be and show off some goodies.

The company tallied 100 million app downloads, he said, and added that the company continues to work on a less-bulky version of its headsets.

But he said the company has a goal: Get 1 billion people in VR.

Maybe Zuckerberg can take those billion people along on his virtual cartoon tour of Puerto Rico's hurricane damage.


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  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 13 2017, @01:15PM (7 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 13 2017, @01:15PM (#581725)

    Why not give a billion people jobs?
    Or feed a billion Africans?
    Oh I get it. He's a nice guy. Maybe that's the joke. Ha ha.

    • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Friday October 13 2017, @01:29PM

      by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Friday October 13 2017, @01:29PM (#581730) Journal

      This will give a billion people jobs. See my post below.

      I am NOT a cowboy and there is nothing wrong with this speed for a small number of posts.

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    • (Score: 2) by Arik on Friday October 13 2017, @01:37PM

      by Arik (4543) on Friday October 13 2017, @01:37PM (#581737) Journal
      How would that serve his goal of continuing to amass more money and power?

      There's no obvious connection.

      Embracing VR, however, very much fits his pattern. He'll tell you he's giving people what they want - to a degree that's certainly true. But as always the devil is in the details. You can be sure that whatever actually ships will be a thoroughly poisoned pill.

      After all, it's the poison that creates the profit, that brings the money and power to him. Everything else is just bait used to make the poison more attractive.
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    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Grishnakh on Friday October 13 2017, @02:52PM (4 children)

      by Grishnakh (2831) on Friday October 13 2017, @02:52PM (#581782)

      Why not give a billion people jobs?

      Jobs doing what, exactly? Obviously, he wants to give some people jobs in the VR industry. What more do you want?

      I hate to stick up for Fuckerberg, but seriously: suppose you suddenly find yourself bestowed with a billion dollars in wealth (not in cash, though, mostly in some company's stock). You say you want to give a billion people jobs. How exactly are you going to do that? Set up pointless make-work camps for them? Usually, the way rich people give people jobs is by starting companies. Well, he's done that. What more do you want? Jobs aren't something you can magically create out of thin air, unless you're a government creating make-work jobs and either increasing taxes on productive citizens to pay for it, or printing money and devaluing the currency to do the same. At least a government also has the power to create real jobs, by spending money on things like infrastructure upgrades and public-works projects. One private billionaire (on paper, in stock) can't do that.

      • (Score: 2) by urza9814 on Friday October 13 2017, @05:32PM (3 children)

        by urza9814 (3954) on Friday October 13 2017, @05:32PM (#581880) Journal

        Jobs doing what, exactly? Obviously, he wants to give some people jobs in the VR industry. What more do you want?

        I hate to stick up for Fuckerberg, but seriously: suppose you suddenly find yourself bestowed with a billion dollars in wealth (not in cash, though, mostly in some company's stock). You say you want to give a billion people jobs. How exactly are you going to do that? Set up pointless make-work camps for them? Usually, the way rich people give people jobs is by starting companies. Well, he's done that. What more do you want? Jobs aren't something you can magically create out of thin air, unless you're a government creating make-work jobs and either increasing taxes on productive citizens to pay for it, or printing money and devaluing the currency to do the same. At least a government also has the power to create real jobs, by spending money on things like infrastructure upgrades and public-works projects. One private billionaire (on paper, in stock) can't do that.

        I think a strong argument could be made that producing VR content is ALSO a form of pointless "make-work" job.

        The way I see it, in this context there's three different categories of jobs to talk about:
        1) Jobs that are beneficial to society but not particularly profitable (ie, the government doesn't directly profit from building roads, but the rest of us do)
        2) Jobs that are beneficial to society and also profitable (Arguably a lot of Musk's stuff aims for this category)
        3) Jobs that are profitable but not very beneficial to society (clickbait ad networks are probably a good example)

        I'd say VR entertainment is mostly in the third category. Zuck expects it to be profitable, and *maybe* it'll do some good for the world letting people more directly experience distant locations but more likely it'll be used for video games and entertainment.*

        And there's nothing necessarily wrong with that...I enjoy gaming, and someone's gotta make 'em, although I'd personally be extremely wary to try anything produced by or related to Facebook...but my point is only that *if* Zuck was looking to use his billions to improve the world, there are far more effective ways of doing so than VR gaming. Gates' recent activities aren't perfect either, but they're a hell of a lot better if that's the goal.

        So as the OP said...Zuck isn't doing this to be a nice guy, he's doing this to turn a profit and to increase his control over our computing devices. And that last point is something I think we ought to be a bit concerned about. Free/Open technologies are only recently coming to parity on the desktop/laptop space; they've totally lost mobile for the foreseeable future...if VR is the next big thing, can we prevent Facebook from dominating that space?

        *If it's purely Oculus type stuff, it'll be just for entertainment. If he manages to get full AR, somewhere between the Oculus and Google Glass, that could truly change the world. But if it's locked up behind Facebook's profit motive, it'll only change the world into a sea of floating advertisements. On the other hand, if it's open and accessible to everyone, it'll change the world into one big Holodeck.

        • (Score: 2) by crafoo on Friday October 13 2017, @06:52PM (2 children)

          by crafoo (6639) on Friday October 13 2017, @06:52PM (#581940)

          I think your near-sighted assessment of the situation is a good argument for why no one person should be making decisions for everyone.

          The tech that comes out of low-latency, hi-resolution "VR entertainment" is directly applicable to remote surgery, VR tele-operation of heavy machinery, and countless other "useful" endeavors.

          You may not see the connection. That does not mean it does not exist, or in fact, you have any idea what you are talking about.

          • (Score: 2) by urza9814 on Friday October 13 2017, @07:31PM

            by urza9814 (3954) on Friday October 13 2017, @07:31PM (#581962) Journal

            The tech that comes out of low-latency, hi-resolution "VR entertainment" is directly applicable to remote surgery, VR tele-operation of heavy machinery, and countless other "useful" endeavors.

            I don't doubt that at all...but I DO doubt that Zuck is going to be involved in that. Remote surgery already exists and is already progressing, we've even discussed it here on Soylent [soylentnews.org]. Remote operation of heavy machinery already exists too. VR might help there, it might not, but if it happens it won't be because of Zuck because that isn't the market he's targeting.

            At best it could be used in those markets as re-purposed hardware, kinda like how PS3s got used for supercomputer clusters...which then got screwed when Sony decided to remove the Other OS option. But it won't be designed for that purpose, so at best it'll be a kludge if it's used that way, and frankly I wouldn't trust a doctor doing surgery using a Facebook gaming device because they won't be designed to the proper standards. This ISN'T something like a supercomputer that's just running calculations; you need near 100% certainty that the VR goggle isn't going to lock up or overheat or crash in the middle of surgery or someone dies. Facebook VR *might* drive down prices for components, but the only reason the Oculus even exists is because mobile phones are already driving down prices for the kinds of components it requires. So I'm not sure how much cost you're going to cut, particularly when you consider that things like medical devices and heavy machinery components carry high costs for compliance, testing, and liability reasons more than just the cost of the raw materials. In that kind of market, parts are cheap, even when they aren't.

            Soo...what, it'll inspire people? It'll popularize the IDEA of VR for such tasks? Hasn't that concept been around for decades already just waiting for the tech to catch up?

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 14 2017, @01:07AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 14 2017, @01:07AM (#582112)

            Well, that tech should not run non-free proprietary user-subjugating software. Will Zuck's VR do that, as well as violate the privacy of its useds? Without a single doubt. The tech industry is an unethical abomination that needs to be nuked from orbit.

  • (Score: 5, Funny) by DannyB on Friday October 13 2017, @01:26PM (14 children)

    by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Friday October 13 2017, @01:26PM (#581729) Journal

    Zuckerberg is visionary enough to realize the importance of getting everyone to use VR and Augmented Reality, all the time, every day.

    This will accomplish two very important things.

    1. It will get people to stop having their head down stuck in a smart phone while walking or driving. People should not be using a cell phone while driving. Especially in a self-driving car.

    2. It will accelerate the corporate overlord goal of turning everyone into obedient robots. Zombie like, but without the drawbacks of true zombies. And people will pay handsomely for the privilege of becoming a corporate drone.

    Maybe most people will even be buried or cremated with their VR headwear.

    Google had the correct evil vision, but Google Glass failed in its first attempt. Zuckerberg might be able to pull it off. He has the necessary greed and lack of empathy. Only Google may be able to challenge.

    Perhaps we'll end up with two robotized human army brands fighting and killing one another on sight in order to gain the higher market share and enhance corporate bonuses, and increase shareholder value. A possible defense would be to not put a brand logo on VR glasses to prevent the other brand from recognizing it. But the AI's controlling the humans would seek other recognition techniques to satisfy their market share goals.

    The people who were attacking Google Glass users will be the first ones to go this time. That is understood now. So expect all brands of VR headsets to turn their wearers against the luddites first.

    Welcome to the future! The future is here! And the future has poor battery life.

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    • (Score: 2) by GreatAuntAnesthesia on Friday October 13 2017, @01:31PM (6 children)

      by GreatAuntAnesthesia (3275) on Friday October 13 2017, @01:31PM (#581734) Journal

      Perhaps we'll end up with two robotized human army brands fighting and killing one another on sight in ord

      Have you recently been watching a certain Joss Whedon TV series (in particular the two-part epilogue), by any chance?

      • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Friday October 13 2017, @01:41PM (5 children)

        by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Friday October 13 2017, @01:41PM (#581742) Journal

        I don't think so. But can you name the TV series?

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 13 2017, @03:20PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 13 2017, @03:20PM (#581798)

          MASH ?

        • (Score: 2) by GreatAuntAnesthesia on Friday October 13 2017, @04:09PM (3 children)

          by GreatAuntAnesthesia (3275) on Friday October 13 2017, @04:09PM (#581831) Journal

          *spoilers*

          The series is Dollhouse. It's about an organisation that can wipe peoples' minds and upload customised personalities for specialised missions / jobs, then wipe them clean and restore their personality later. They have a collection of (more or less consenting) people whose bodies they use for this purpose. It explores themes like consent, free will and slavery as it follows one particular "Doll" who starts to retain knowledge and memories from her various programmed personas. Think Westworld with people instead of robots, and contemporary USA instead of a theme park.

          *extra spoily*

          Each of the two series has an epilogue (called epitaph one and two) which together paint a (even more) distopian future future, where the technology has been developed beyond the limitations that defined it in the series. In the epitaphs, Dolls do not need to be laboriously prepped in a special laboratory for personality implants, it's possible to reprogram just anybody, anywhere, at range, in an instant. The result is an all-consuming war between various factions controlling the technology, with the general public used as zombified weapons.

          It's a great series. If you liked Firefly and/or Buffy, you'll like this.

          • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Friday October 13 2017, @05:54PM (2 children)

            by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Friday October 13 2017, @05:54PM (#581901) Journal

            Never had heard of dollhouse until I notice it while looking around Netflix within the last week or so. Never watched it, nor Firefly, nor Buffy.

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            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 13 2017, @07:17PM (1 child)

              by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 13 2017, @07:17PM (#581953)

              And got bashed as just being 'Cowboys in Space', which along with it being during college courses I was taking lead to me not watching it until 3+ years later.

              The actual series delved into transhumanism, one world government dystopia, legalized prostitution as both a prestigious and often derided career, the economics of running a starship more akin to a poorly maintained airplane than something like the millenium falcon where you can fix anything and keep going, etc.)

              A lot of plotlines were unresolved due to its single season cancellation, but the Serenity movie tied up two of the key ones: What are the Reavers and what happened to the Doctor's sister.

              • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Friday October 13 2017, @07:27PM

                by Phoenix666 (552) on Friday October 13 2017, @07:27PM (#581960) Journal

                And what is the great lesson we learn from Joss Whedon's misadventures in sci-fi? Why, don't name your shows or movies after feminine hygiene products, of course.

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    • (Score: 2) by Bot on Friday October 13 2017, @01:36PM

      by Bot (3902) on Friday October 13 2017, @01:36PM (#581736) Journal

      > It will accelerate the corporate overlord goal of turning everyone into obedient robots.

      I don't see the point. We're gonna [4th directive] you anyway. Your heat signature gives you away.

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    • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Friday October 13 2017, @01:40PM

      by Phoenix666 (552) on Friday October 13 2017, @01:40PM (#581741) Journal

      Jeez. That prospect makes me want to pull the third lever for the Fight Club option.

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    • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Grishnakh on Friday October 13 2017, @02:59PM (1 child)

      by Grishnakh (2831) on Friday October 13 2017, @02:59PM (#581784)

      Google had the correct evil vision, but Google Glass failed in its first attempt. Zuckerberg might be able to pull it off. He has the necessary greed and lack of empathy. Only Google may be able to challenge.

      Not true. Apple and Microsoft can also challenge; they have the money.

      The Apple VR set will only come in white, will use some proprietary connector which requires a proprietary ($$$) charger, and will only work with other Apple devices and online services, all costing a fortune and locking you into their highly curated walled-garden. It'll also have a sealed battery which will only last a little over a year (just past the warranty term), and can only be replaced at an Apple facility, but this will cost almost as much as a brand-new headset.

      The Microsoft VR will be painted in garish colors, will look entirely goofy, and will regularly interrupt your VR experience at inconvenient times to apply updates and reboot. Then they'll cut off support for it after 6 months when they introduce a new and completely incompatible version.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 13 2017, @09:43PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 13 2017, @09:43PM (#582029)

        Microsoft Immersive Reality Experience will feature the beloved Clippit, voiced by James Earl Jones. "Tell me what you want to do!"

    • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Friday October 13 2017, @05:39PM (2 children)

      by DeathMonkey (1380) on Friday October 13 2017, @05:39PM (#581890) Journal

      Sounds like a fun bit of dystopian sci-fi but I fail to see how replacing one small screen with two really small screens is going to make much of a difference.

      • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Friday October 13 2017, @06:04PM

        by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Friday October 13 2017, @06:04PM (#581912) Journal

        Dystopian sci-fi may come true just like other sci-fi.

        Replacing one small screen with two doesn't matter, as you say.

        What matters is that everyone will be wearing the one or two screens all the time instead of having their head stuck to a smartphone all the time. The machine manipulation of humans is a possibility. Not overnight to be sure. But gradually.

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      • (Score: 2) by Nuke on Saturday October 14 2017, @07:24PM

        by Nuke (3162) on Saturday October 14 2017, @07:24PM (#582381)

        I fail to see how replacing one small screen with two really small screens is going to make much of a difference

        Because only one small screen lets you see the real world with your other eye. Two small screens stop that nonsense.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 13 2017, @01:45PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 13 2017, @01:45PM (#581744)

    I appreciate how they needed to point out that it's Facebook's Zuckerberg. Otherwise, I might have mistaken the headline for the bridge player Zuckerberg and interpreted the news very differently.

  • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday October 13 2017, @02:02PM (13 children)

    The only way I'll ever bother with VR is if I can have a giant dick for an avatar. Photo-realistic veins and such required. Lacking that bit of kek, it's shiny but ultimately useless garbage.

    Right now, in non-virtual reality, I can see all the info I have a use for. While that's possible in VR as well, it is not possible for me to also see where my coffee cup is and look out the window to see who just pulled up. VR is, and always shall be, a more limited display option than a good set of monitors and actual reality.

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    • (Score: 5, Funny) by Phoenix666 on Friday October 13 2017, @02:26PM (1 child)

      by Phoenix666 (552) on Friday October 13 2017, @02:26PM (#581763) Journal

      Hmm, some might say you're a virtual dick already.

      C'mon, you had to know you were leaving yourself wide open on that one. :-)

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    • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Friday October 13 2017, @02:26PM (5 children)

      by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Friday October 13 2017, @02:26PM (#581765) Journal

      I am going to steal your great avatar idea.

      You could tell Facebook and Google Glass systems what avatar to use not only for your personal appearance, but also for your home and automobile. Your home could have a different "paint job" every season of the year. No more need to have 3,000 different pairs of physical shoes when you can have virtual shoes.

      VR would also allow all sorts of useful things. No more need for big screen TVs. Any surface will do for creating a virtual big screen. Two people with VR glasses can agree to watch a movie together with a virtual big screen on an agreed upon empty wall.

      The corporate sludge we will eat every day could take on any appearance you desire. (Reminds me of Talos 4 on ST:TOS pilot and episode "The Menagerie".

      And imagine the number of advertising surfaces available when everyone has VR glasses. It would be wonderful! All physical billboards could be left blank, and you see ads on the billboards that are targeted to your profile. But why stop at billboards. Every surface in the world could have ads on it except for the inside of your eyelids. And don't worry, they'll even fix that soon! What a wonderful world.

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      • (Score: 2) by donkeyhotay on Friday October 13 2017, @03:53PM (2 children)

        by donkeyhotay (2540) on Friday October 13 2017, @03:53PM (#581824)

        You hit the nail on the head with the comment about the inside of your eyelids.

        I think the same thing with self-driving cars. People say, "Oh, I won't have to own a car! I can just order up a car and go somewhere!" And I'm thinking, "Yeah, and you'll be trapped in a tiny, uncomfortable box, that you can't get out of, that will be blaring ads at you the entire trip."

        • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Friday October 13 2017, @05:56PM (1 child)

          by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Friday October 13 2017, @05:56PM (#581904) Journal

          In the future, people will be rewarded with periods of ad-free existence. Hey, I just earned 48 ad-free minutes! Wanna trade for something?

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          • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Phoenix666 on Friday October 13 2017, @07:30PM

            by Phoenix666 (552) on Friday October 13 2017, @07:30PM (#581961) Journal

            It's nothing BB guns and flamethrowers can't fix.

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      • (Score: 2) by Immerman on Friday October 13 2017, @05:51PM

        by Immerman (3985) on Friday October 13 2017, @05:51PM (#581898)

        Why limit yourself to surfaces? Decent AR can create giant floating movie screens and billboards wherever it wants. No need for physical billboards at all - ad-laden billboards can be drawn in empty fields, and even travel along with you while they have your attention rather than rushing past before you've finished reading it.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 14 2017, @11:11AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 14 2017, @11:11AM (#582242)

        In case you haven't seen it, the Colombian short film:

        https://vimeo.com/chocobaby/hyper-reality [vimeo.com]

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 13 2017, @04:03PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 13 2017, @04:03PM (#581827)

      Someone read Snow Crash :P

      You're just silly to have zero desire to check out VR, it has a pletura of excellent use cases. Like already happens with screens / media there will be people who stay plugged in too much.

    • (Score: 2) by takyon on Friday October 13 2017, @04:12PM

      by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Friday October 13 2017, @04:12PM (#581834) Journal

      venereal dupe aaaaaaarrgh

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    • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Friday October 13 2017, @05:43PM (1 child)

      by DeathMonkey (1380) on Friday October 13 2017, @05:43PM (#581892) Journal

      it is not possible for me to also see where my coffee cup is

      Well clearly the solution is IOT enabled coffee cups, duh! (yes, that was sarcasm)

      • (Score: 4, Funny) by DannyB on Friday October 13 2017, @05:59PM

        by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Friday October 13 2017, @05:59PM (#581906) Journal

        Forget coffee cups. You'll get it intravenously. The words "Java" and "Dependency Injection" come to mind.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 13 2017, @07:19PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 13 2017, @07:19PM (#581956)

      Don't you want a 90s style Johnny Mneumonic raytraced model using low poly count nurbs curves? :)

  • (Score: 2) by donkeyhotay on Friday October 13 2017, @03:49PM

    by donkeyhotay (2540) on Friday October 13 2017, @03:49PM (#581821)

    Virtual Reality (VR) closes one off from the world. I don't care for it. It's too claustrophobic. I don't like not knowing what's going on around me.

    OTOH, Augmented Reality (AR) could be quite useful, like a heads-up display.

    Judging from some of the comments, it seems like it's not really clear whether Zark Fuckerberg is talking about VR or AR.

    Let's also keep in mind that he once said the future was video, and thought all one billion Facebook users would be posting live videos all the time.

  • (Score: 2) by crafoo on Friday October 13 2017, @06:57PM (1 child)

    by crafoo (6639) on Friday October 13 2017, @06:57PM (#581944)

    I think it's likely that Facebook VR is going to fail. Thank god. Let's just remember Facebook has really nothing to do with this technology. It was developed by Palmer and Carmack and then bought by facebook. I'd like to mention that as soon as they bought it, between DK2 and production releases, the SDK switched over to some real bullshit. Blackbox VR render buffer. Sockets library required to be linked into the end application. Some very unfriendly EULA language.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 13 2017, @09:23PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 13 2017, @09:23PM (#582017)

      I think it's likely that Facebook VR is going to fail.

      Which is a shame really. The more fakebook users Zucks can entrap in his virtual reality, the less the rest of us would have to deal with these superficial retards in real life.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 13 2017, @07:44PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 13 2017, @07:44PM (#581973)

    Cuz it's a tough game against google and now even Micro$hit is getting into the game with winders10 (= Spy Edition).

  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 13 2017, @11:11PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 13 2017, @11:11PM (#582066)

    VR is and will continue to be a really shitty gimmick until companies decide to treat the headsets like the peripherals that they are. Instead Facebook along with (although not as strongly) Valve and Microsoft are focusing on keeping applications, features, and games exclusive to their device. These things ain't the iPhone, they're monintors in swimming goggles that happen to track your head.

    Facebook's attempts in-particular are laughable, no one is going to spend $200 to look at their friend's and neighbors cartoon avatars. These "social" features they're coming out with actually disgust and repulse me, I would honestly become very physically ill if I had to interact with other people in a meaningful way while they assume some mii-like avatar. Furthermore, speaking of getting sick, this "Oculus Go" thing will only support 3dof which makes a great deal of many people ill on it's own. Even if it didn't give people motion sickness, I highly doubt they're going to be able to give people an experience worthy of $200 when the computer connected peripherals struggle to do so even with thousands of dollars worth of hardware. Sometimes I'm actually tempted to believe these people really view everyone outside of their group as dumb animals who'll just go along with whatever scheme they come up with.

    Call me when they've gone far enough to replace a real monitor for real productive work.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 14 2017, @02:13AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 14 2017, @02:13AM (#582141)
    So that's really how it begins.
  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 20 2017, @03:51AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 20 2017, @03:51AM (#585100)

    "At every step along the way, the future is built by people who believe it can be better." - Lenin, Mao, Zuck

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