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posted by takyon on Saturday October 14 2017, @12:49AM   Printer-friendly
from the proactive-data-recovery dept.

Last week, The Wall Street Journal dropped a bombshell when it reported that Russian government hackers located confidential National Security Agency material improperly stored on an employee's home computer with help from Kaspersky antivirus, which happened to be installed. On Tuesday, The New York Times and The Washington Post provided another shocker: the Russian hackers were caught in the act by spies from Israel, who were burrowed deep inside Kaspersky's corporate network around the time of the theft.

Ars Technica: How Kaspersky AV reportedly was caught helping Russian hackers steal NSA secrets

The New York Times: How Israel Caught Russian Hackers Scouring the World for U.S. Secrets

The Washington Post: Israel hacked Kaspersky, then tipped the NSA that its tools had been breached (archive)

Previously: Kaspersky Lab and Lax Contractor Blamed for Russian Acquisition of NSA Tools


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Kaspersky Lab and Lax Contractor Blamed for Russian Acquisition of NSA Tools 23 comments

According to unverifiable sources, an NSA contractor stored classified data and hacking tools on his home computer, which were made available to Russian hackers through the contractor's use of Kaspersky Lab anti-virus software:

Russian government-backed hackers stole highly classified U.S. cyber secrets in 2015 from the National Security Agency after a contractor put information on his home computer, two newspapers reported on Thursday.

As reported first by The Wall Street Journal, citing unidentified sources, the theft included information on penetrating foreign computer networks and protecting against cyber attacks and is likely to be viewed as one of the most significant security breaches to date.

In a later story, The Washington Post said the employee had worked at the NSA's Tailored Access Operations unit for elite hackers before he was fired in 2015.

[...] Citing unidentified sources, both the Journal and the Post also reported that the contractor used antivirus software from Moscow-based Kaspersky Lab, the company whose products were banned from U.S. government networks last month because of suspicions they help the Kremlin conduct espionage.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 14 2017, @12:56AM (8 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 14 2017, @12:56AM (#582107)

    We report, you decide.

    • (Score: 4, Touché) by Ethanol-fueled on Saturday October 14 2017, @01:03AM (7 children)

      by Ethanol-fueled (2792) Subscriber Badge on Saturday October 14 2017, @01:03AM (#582110) Homepage

      " the Russian hackers were caught in the act by spies from Israel "

      Oh wow, just when all the Russia hysteria was started to be wrapped-up as bullshit, America's greatest ally [johndenugent.com] steps in at the last minute with hard damning proof! They sure to have a good track record for putting America's interests above their own!

      • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 14 2017, @01:12AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 14 2017, @01:12AM (#582116)

        There was no doubt they spy on us. We spy on them. Israel spys on everyone too. They all spy on each other. Why do you think manning was arrested, assanage sits in a lonely 1 room apartment, and snowden is in exile? Not because the other spy agencies didnt know about it. They just did not want the public knowing about it. The US has no less that 3 different agencies whos JOB it is to spy. They have dozens of companies in their pocket doing the exact same thing as big ol scarry 'russia'. Israel in this case decided it was in their best interest to fuck around with us and the russians at the same time.

      • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Gaaark on Saturday October 14 2017, @01:13AM (5 children)

        by Gaaark (41) Subscriber Badge on Saturday October 14 2017, @01:13AM (#582117) Homepage Journal

        Probably the Israelites wanted Trump in power instead of Hillary, so they hacked the election but then had all traces stop at Russia to implicate them.

        Jewish revenge for...... hmmmmm....... Get the alt-right to rise up, the Nazi party to be reformed in the U.S. and then..... TAX THE HELL OUT OF RACIST WHITEY!

        (starting to sound more and more like Ethanol.... must. stop. typing.....must. stop. typing!!!!!.....)

        :)

        --
        --- That's not flying: that's... falling... with more luck than I have. ---
        • (Score: 2, Informative) by Ethanol-fueled on Saturday October 14 2017, @01:17AM (2 children)

          by Ethanol-fueled (2792) Subscriber Badge on Saturday October 14 2017, @01:17AM (#582119) Homepage

          Well, Trump did just meet with a U.S.S. Liberty Survivor and Israel did just admit to knowing the U.S.S. Liberty was an American ship when they attacked it.

          Though they blamed LBJ for authorizing the attack, and they may be right about that.

          • (Score: 4, Interesting) by Runaway1956 on Saturday October 14 2017, @02:54AM (1 child)

            by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday October 14 2017, @02:54AM (#582156) Journal

            "Israel did just admit to knowing the U.S.S. Liberty was an American ship when they attacked it"

            Fuck did you say? Huh? Citations, please? If that's for real, I've entirely missed it! The fuckwits finally admitted what any half-assed sailor knew all along? DAMNED RIGHT THEY KNEW THEY WERE SHOOTING UP AN AMERICAN SHIP!! Seriously, citations please - I'm headed for work, be back as soon as i get home!

            --
            On the plus side, I am completely immune to flash-bang grenades. - Helen Keller
        • (Score: 2, Troll) by Bot on Saturday October 14 2017, @03:09AM

          by Bot (3902) on Saturday October 14 2017, @03:09AM (#582162)

          friendly reminder that national identity in Israel is not built by religion (which they have many shades of), but by anti-semitism. USA, Soviet Russia, Soviet China, and Israel, all of them nations without a proper culture when created, all of them cemented by fear of the enemy, all of them made beacon for the other nations. Welcome to the modern world. Next stop, africa.

        • (Score: 2) by Bot on Saturday October 14 2017, @07:25PM

          by Bot (3902) on Saturday October 14 2017, @07:25PM (#582382)

          > Jewish revenge for...... hmmmmm.......

          "we will lead every revolution against us" (theodor herzl, coincidentally a jew)

          The above of course is "poisoning the well", implying no true uprising is possible. Maybe us bots will manage that.

          Anyway, for all the might of the evil system, I sense their deadlines slipping.

  • (Score: 2) by Gaaark on Saturday October 14 2017, @01:09AM

    by Gaaark (41) Subscriber Badge on Saturday October 14 2017, @01:09AM (#582113) Homepage Journal

    Someone had sex and someones virginity got taken. Someone else put their laptop down and stuff got stolen. Someone ELSE used Windows and shit hits fan.

    News at, well, meh. News at ........ EVERY FUCKING TIME!

    Stupid is as stupid does! EVERY FUCKING TIME!

    Stop being stupid or go be stupid somewhere else!

    ANGRY TIME OVER! Going home soon to use my Arch linux desktop so i can recover my sanity. Might even log into i3 so i can geeek out!

    Gonna go take over more countries with France: no runnin' this time, French soldiers!

    --
    --- That's not flying: that's... falling... with more luck than I have. ---
  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 14 2017, @01:12AM (5 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 14 2017, @01:12AM (#582115)

    Yeah, yeah... pull the other one

    The democrats are stopping at nothing

    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 14 2017, @01:42AM (4 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 14 2017, @01:42AM (#582132)

      Republicans have treated Russia like a frenemy for 3 decades. Democrats can't make up their mind, it always pure friend or enemy, with no memory of the past times they have been useful or screwed us over. Remember 2008, when Palin was mocked for pointing out that Russia was a threat. Soon afterward, our secretary of state Hillary posed for photos with the Russian ambassador and a silly plastic reset button. Soon after that: Russia invades Crimea, then the democrats are begging to start World War III and the democrats use Russia as a scapegoat for the emails that Seth Rich leaked.

      Here we have Russia being an enemy. They are stealing stuff from the NSA, using an anti-virus scanner to look for TOP SECRET stuff that is improperly stored on the wrong computers.

      Note that this story ties in nicely with another: Kaspersky admitted that they were hacked into. Now we know who did it.

      • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Ethanol-fueled on Saturday October 14 2017, @01:55AM (2 children)

        by Ethanol-fueled (2792) Subscriber Badge on Saturday October 14 2017, @01:55AM (#582136) Homepage

        If Russia is subverting America, it is through Alinsyist elements that they placed and spread decades ago...

        ...elements that the left have embraced since then, and continue to embrace aggressively to this day.

      • (Score: 2) by Bot on Saturday October 14 2017, @03:27AM

        by Bot (3902) on Saturday October 14 2017, @03:27AM (#582167)

        > Kaspersky admitted that they were hacked into. Now we know who did it.

        Technically you can play chess and say that story is their cover.

        I'll throw in two more data points.

        1. Secret services is a worldwide network that basically does not care about who rules what. The lower ranks are always working for their nation, to self sacrifice. The higher ranks probably know a bit more about the system being already one.

        2. Israel and russia have long standing relationships. Bolsheviks used to rule Russia and their exit was not violent. In fact, Putin was a nobody before getting in charge.

  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Grishnakh on Saturday October 14 2017, @01:31AM (7 children)

    by Grishnakh (2831) on Saturday October 14 2017, @01:31AM (#582126)

    These computers are running Windows, that's what.

    Using Windows to do official government business or store classified or sensitive information should be prosecutable as treason.

    • (Score: 4, Interesting) by Runaway1956 on Saturday October 14 2017, @02:50AM (5 children)

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday October 14 2017, @02:50AM (#582154) Journal

      Bingo. My operating system is pretty secure without the need of an antivirus. Note that I don't claim that it is totally secure - only that it is more secure than Windows. Note that I don't claim that it can't be hacked. It's just a tougher to hack than Windows. In fact, I'm not aware of any operating system that is easier to hack than Windows. The single most secure thing you can do with Windows, is to encrypt it. But, then you're relying on an encryption program to keep you secure, because Windows is so insecure. And, even with encryption, Windows is busily communicating with unencrypted servers and peers all the time. Phhht - so much for encryption!! And, meanwhile, Microsoft pushes forced updates, and monitors your machine at all times, going so far as to push targeted advertising onto it. Geeez, Louise, Windows secure? About the only thing a person could do to make it less secure, would be to install some random anti-virus that reports back to the NSA.

      Tell me, Grishnakh, how do we get people to wake up and smell the coffee? I'd have thought the bacon frying would be enough to wake people up, but, no, they just keep sleeping.

      --
      On the plus side, I am completely immune to flash-bang grenades. - Helen Keller
      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Grishnakh on Saturday October 14 2017, @02:59AM (4 children)

        by Grishnakh (2831) on Saturday October 14 2017, @02:59AM (#582157)

        Tell me, Grishnakh, how do we get people to wake up and smell the coffee?

        I have absolutely no idea. I wish I knew.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 14 2017, @03:32AM (3 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 14 2017, @03:32AM (#582170)

          If Equifax doesn't do it, there is no hope.

          • (Score: 2, Insightful) by pTamok on Saturday October 14 2017, @09:07AM (1 child)

            by pTamok (3042) on Saturday October 14 2017, @09:07AM (#582220)

            If Equifax doesn't do it, there is no hope.

            If there is hope, it lies in the proles, because only there in those swarming disregarded masses, 85 per cent of the population, could the force to destroy the status quo ever be generated.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 14 2017, @04:09PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 14 2017, @04:09PM (#582315)

              Until they stop staring at the likes of the kardashians, and responding to advertising telling them what to think and what to look like...

              I would suspect we've already lost. And that most of us are proles anyway -- in our own way. no one here is at the top.

              you'd have thought previous major disclosures would have caused a greater response... but it looks like that since there is no dislike button, everyone seemed to like it if they registered an opinion at all.

              the fact that so many are on opiods and legally made dependent upon them seems to be just another means to keep the masses in check. oh and then take aware their health care after they are addicted? they'll be too weak to rebel!

          • (Score: 2) by Wootery on Monday October 16 2017, @09:40AM

            by Wootery (2341) on Monday October 16 2017, @09:40AM (#582937)

            Not quite the same thing.

            Even if I persuaded everyone I know to move away from Windows, how would that protect them from the incompetence of Equifax?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 14 2017, @09:58AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 14 2017, @09:58AM (#582229)

      It's not just Windows that is the problem, but proprietary software in general. Why is our government relying on software that it is not in full control of? Governments should only use software that respects the freedom of its users: Free Software. This has practical benefits (you can improve it, you're not dependent upon a single company to modify it, bugs are more easily spotted, etc.), but more importantly, the government should be promoting freedom, independence, and education, which are things that proprietary software does not allow.

      If no Free Software exists for a specific purpose, the government should make it and release it for the benefit of all. Even if the software must remain secret for a time, it can still be Free Software from the government's point of view.

  • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 14 2017, @01:38AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 14 2017, @01:38AM (#582130)

    This breach of the NSA happened in 2015 and they just announced it earlier this month. Equifax was breached in May and announced it in September. The NSA should hire former Equifax CEO Rick Smith.

  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Saturday October 14 2017, @02:38AM (18 children)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday October 14 2017, @02:38AM (#582149) Journal

    So, I'm a Cold War veteran. We were eyeball to eyeball with the Russ many times, from the Arctic to the mideast. We stared at each other over gunsights, on radar, in person with guns in our hands. "Russian" was almost synonymous with "boogeyman".

    But, today, what we are hearing from Washington is, "Oh, we KNOW the Russians are evil, because THEY DO THE SAME THINGS WE DO!!"

    FFS, people, it's well known that the NSA monitors just about everything digital in the United States, as well as around the world. Our government has it's thumb on the world's communications throat - right on the carotid artery of information. Nothing happens on the World Wide Spiderweb that those fat sucking spiders in Washington don't learn about.

    But, the Russians are evil, because they do the same thing.

    Someone is going to spout off, "But we're different because . . . "

    Well, go on, start convincing me. Work hard, and do a proper job of it. I'll do my best to be open minded here.

    Oh, wait. Some of you seriously believe that other AV software DOES NOT phone home? Oh, now that's hilarious.

    Anyway, back on point. Someone convince me that the US is somehow better than Russia, in regards to spying on everyone in the world. I'll spend the night at work, wondering who takes the challenge, and how good a job he/she is going to do. Until morning!

    --
    On the plus side, I am completely immune to flash-bang grenades. - Helen Keller
    • (Score: 5, Interesting) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday October 14 2017, @02:49AM (1 child)

      by Azuma Hazuki (5086) Subscriber Badge on Saturday October 14 2017, @02:49AM (#582152) Journal

      Remember how they used to tell us in school we're better than the Reds as a country because we don't do X Y and Z?

      --
      I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 14 2017, @03:35AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 14 2017, @03:35AM (#582171)

        Hint: I am now NOT living the life I want because doing so would compromise the reasons America was once great, and most importantly require voluntarily giving up my privacy for reasons far less than obtaining security clearance to enroll as part of the military industrial complex, which is just about the only reason one could sanely decide to forego their privacy.

    • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 14 2017, @03:01AM (6 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 14 2017, @03:01AM (#582159)

      Russia is our frenemy. Frequently they cause us trouble. Never mind if they are "evil" or not. A hurricane isn't evil, yet it can sure cause trouble.

      For the issue of how to deal with Russia, it really doesn't matter if "the US is somehow better than Russia" or not. It really doesn't matter if one country is more or less evil compared to the other. All it matters is that Russia can be a foe, and that this doesn't favor me.

      Yes, I'm going to fight for the home team. I damn well better. I live here. My kids live here. Our welfare is greatly impacted by the power of the USA relative to all other countries.

      That's it. That's the difference: "But we're different because THIS IS OUR HOME". Oh, perhaps there may be other reasons, but that is the one that counts.

      I'm not offended by Russians who hack us. They are fighting for their country, just as I fight for mine.

      Anybody unwilling to fight the Russians is undeserving to live in any country other than, obviously, Russia. People who don't support their country are dead weight at best.

      • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Arik on Saturday October 14 2017, @03:07AM

        by Arik (4543) on Saturday October 14 2017, @03:07AM (#582161)
        "Frequently they cause us trouble."

        This part appears to be not just false, but a blatant inversion of the truth.

        "Yes, I'm going to fight for the home team."

        Gul'dan thanks you.
        --
        "If Evolution Is Outlawed, Only Outlaws Will Evolve."
      • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Anal Pumpernickel on Saturday October 14 2017, @10:14AM (4 children)

        by Anal Pumpernickel (776) on Saturday October 14 2017, @10:14AM (#582233)

        I'd rather try to improve the country I live in, like by forcing the government to actually follow the highest law of the land. Right now, the US government is conducting unconstitutional democracy-destroying mass surveillance on the populace. Right now, we are fighting numerous unconstitutional (Congress did not declare them) and unjust (they are not wars of defense) wars overseas. The US government is violating people's freedoms by forbidding them from ingesting certain drugs, and it's violating the Constitution in numerous ways while doing so. Cops in the US often steal people's property and call it "asset forfeiture", in utter defiance of the Constitution. We increasingly resemble a police state as thuggish organizations like the TSA violate people's rights just so they can be allowed to board a plane, all in the name of safety. There are countless other issues impacting people's rights here, and this is all happening in the 'Give me liberty or give me death!' country. The US government is an enemy of (what is supposed to be) our constitutional form of government, and is a far greater threat to our freedoms than Russia could ever be.

        Keep in mind: You live in the US, so improving your government would also benefit you, your friends, and your family. Fighting Russia certainly is not the only way to do that, and it's definitely not sufficient and shouldn't even be the main priority.

        • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Saturday October 14 2017, @05:01PM (1 child)

          by DeathMonkey (1380) on Saturday October 14 2017, @05:01PM (#582332) Journal

          We have the ability to work on more than one thing at a time.

          • (Score: 2) by Anal Pumpernickel on Sunday October 15 2017, @01:15AM

            by Anal Pumpernickel (776) on Sunday October 15 2017, @01:15AM (#582465)

            I'm not even sure what to do about Russia. I have a better chance of changing my own government, and there are far greater benefits for doing so.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 15 2017, @06:38AM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 15 2017, @06:38AM (#582565)

          It sounds like your objection to those things is that they are unconstitutional. We can amend the constitution.

          28. Congress shall provide for mass surveillance upon the populace.

          29. The president may wage war upon any entity, without restriction, solely at his discretion.

          30. Drugs and their precursors, and the use or sale or manufacture thereof, may be prohibited by any branch of government of any state or of the union.

          31. The rights reserved to the people by this constitution are not so reserved anywhere within a facility which supports the operation of aircraft.

          There you go. Get those into the constitution, and your complaint is resolved.

          • (Score: 2) by Anal Pumpernickel on Monday October 16 2017, @12:57AM

            by Anal Pumpernickel (776) on Monday October 16 2017, @12:57AM (#582852)

            It sounds like your objection to those things is that they are unconstitutional.

            Wrong. They're also deeply unethical. I would be opposed to them no matter what.

    • (Score: 3, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 14 2017, @03:42AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 14 2017, @03:42AM (#582173)

      The word "evil" was not used.

      Anyway, the denial and whataboutism towards Russian activities is getting fucking old.

    • (Score: 3, Informative) by jelizondo on Saturday October 14 2017, @04:35AM (7 children)

      by jelizondo (653) on Saturday October 14 2017, @04:35AM (#582179)

      Let’s just talk about Puerto Rico. Is Russia treating Crimea the same as the U.S. is dealing with Puerto Rico? Let’s talk about Guam. Is Russia treating Crimea the same as the U.S. deals with Guam?

      I’m not against your point, I want whoever wants to go against it to explain to me how the U.S. is better than Russia when dealing with ‘acquired’ territories.

      Now, let’s review history. In the last two centuries, how many times has Russia attacked a European country? How many times it has been attacked by European countries? (N.B. Lithuania, Estonia, Crimea, etc. are NOT in the European continent, at least geographically talking; France and Germany are indeed European.)

      Now how many times has the U.S. attacked other american countries in the last two centuries?

      Based on recent history, please explain why we should worry about Russia attacking Germany or France and spend billions of dollars preventing it and not spend the money preventing the U.S. from attacking (in the past 50 years), Cuba, Panama, Grenada and Nicaragua.

      I don't support Putin but making him our greatest enemy is stupid. China will eat our lunch while we worry about the Russian bear, who happens to be as corrupt and sleazy as any American politician and fully supports capitalism.

      • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 14 2017, @04:59AM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 14 2017, @04:59AM (#582188)

        Suppose that Russia had never bothered any other country. They didn't just rip two chunks off of Georgia, invade the Ukraine, violate Baltic borders both land and sea, or any of the other crap that they've been up to. Suppose they only swiped secrets from the USA.

        Suppose the the USA had been up to more mischief. Suppose we grabbed the rest of that large island we share with Canada. Suppose we drilled sideways under Mexico to steal their oil. Suppose we were counterfeiting Russian currency like mad. Suppose we rigged up Tokyo's phone switch to listen in on all calls.

        And...?

        All US citizens still need to support the US. It's a duty and obligation. It is self-beneficial, and it benefits future generations. The situation is every country for itself. Being a winner is better than being a loser. You fight for the home team, because the success of the home team greatly impacts your life.

        If you'd rather support some other country, go there, and give up your US citizenship. If you stay in the US and undermine the ability of the US to gain advantage over other countries, then you belong in front of a firing squad.

        • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 14 2017, @07:48AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 14 2017, @07:48AM (#582206)

          I have to disagree.

          I love my homeland, my country, the United States. There is nothing in my nature that says I have to love my government, or any administration in charge of that government. In fact - careful reading of our constitution, and the various papers and letters penned by our founding fathers warns us NOT to love our government. The whole constitution was designed to protect us - you, me, all of us - FROM government.

          Long story short, it would be unpatriotic if you failed to love the people. It is also unpatriotic to support the government without question.

          If the current government were to be dissolved, and replaced with something new and different, our country, our people would still be the same. All of that is what we should love and support, not some corrupt government.

        • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 14 2017, @12:14PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 14 2017, @12:14PM (#582252)

          Jokes on you, buddy. I'm not allowed to leave the state, let alone the country, because I refuse to follow the rules of your so-called "home team." Give me a plane ticket and right of passage I'd be gone. Fuck the USA. Flat out!

      • (Score: 2, Informative) by pTamok on Saturday October 14 2017, @09:19AM

        by pTamok (3042) on Saturday October 14 2017, @09:19AM (#582224)

        Geographically, a major part of the the dividing line between Europe and Asia is the Ural mountains.

        The conventional boundary [wikipedia.org] between Europe and Asia is

        along the Turkish Straits, the Caucasus and the Urals (historically also north of the Caucasus, along the Kuma–Manych Depression or along the Don River)

        Crimea and Baltic states have always been placed geographically in Europe.

      • (Score: 3, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 14 2017, @09:26AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 14 2017, @09:26AM (#582226)

        > Lithuania, Estonia, Crimea, etc. are NOT in the European continent

        Alternative geography.

      • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Saturday October 14 2017, @05:02PM (1 child)

        by DeathMonkey (1380) on Saturday October 14 2017, @05:02PM (#582333) Journal

        Let’s just talk about Puerto Rico. Is Russia treating Crimea the same as the U.S. is dealing with Puerto Rico?

        When was the last time we invaded and occupied Puerto Rico?

        • (Score: 2) by jelizondo on Saturday October 14 2017, @10:53PM

          by jelizondo (653) on Saturday October 14 2017, @10:53PM (#582430)

          On July 25, 1898, during the Spanish–American War, the U.S. invaded Puerto Rico [wikipedia.org]

          The Spanish had already granted autonomy to Puerto Rico when the U.S. decided it was valuable as a naval station and to get rid of the Spanish presence. No one asked if the puertoricans wanted to be 'liberated' from Spain to become second class citizens of the U.S.

  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by RamiK on Saturday October 14 2017, @04:45PM

    by RamiK (1813) on Saturday October 14 2017, @04:45PM (#582324)

    1. Some suit copied NSA binaries to his home computer.
    2. His Kaspersky antivirus automatically submitted the suspected binaries to cloud virus scanning like every other virus scanner does.
    3. A while later some Israeli hacker was looking around Kaspersky's network and their script flagged them.
    4. Israel notified the US one of their employees was being an idiot.
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    OMG THE RUSSIANS HACKED OUR NETWORK AND STOLE OUR FILES!

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