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posted by Fnord666 on Wednesday October 18 2017, @07:37AM   Printer-friendly
from the stick-your-purchases-in-your-boot-for-you? dept.

In the minds of mobile shoppers, where is the line between convenience and personal space/privacy? We now have two retailers — Walmart and Amazon, the giants of in-store and online shopping, respectively — separately testing programs to deliver purchases directly into your home or your car trunk when the shopper is nowhere near.

Both efforts rely on mobile devices connecting shoppers to the scene of the delivery, where customers can theoretically watch the delivery in real time. It isn't practical or likely, but that's the idea. Mobile is what justifies these attempts.

Does the trunk of your car really make for a more secure delivery, or is it multiplying insecurities?


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Amazon Wants to Deliver Purchases into Your Home 41 comments

Hot on the heels of Walmart's plans to deliver groceries directly into the fridges of homes with smart locks, Amazon has announced a similar arrangement for package deliveries, called Amazon Key:

Amazon on Wednesday announced Amazon Key, a new program for Prime members that lets delivery people drop off packages inside of customer homes.

To make Amazon Key possible, Amazon has introduced its own $120 internet-connected security camera called Amazon Cloud Cam. Customers who want to participate in the program need to purchase an accompanying "smart" lock to allow delivery people to enter their home. Combined camera-lock packages start at $250.

With the program Amazon is adding what it thinks is a more convenient option than traditional outside drop-off, while also coming up with one solution to package theft which is rampant in some markets.

The obvious questions are whether people will trust a delivery person to enter their home unattended. Amazon is trying to assuage these fears by alerting customers when a delivery is about to happen to allow them to watch it live via their phone.

This really isn't a big deal. They were delivering to the doorstep previously, and now they want to move the delivery by a couple of feet. There's almost no difference.

Also at The Verge.

Previously: Amazon Wants to Deliver Purchases to Your Car Trunk


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Amazon Wants to Deliver Packages Inside Your Car 30 comments

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Mentioned previously on SN, Amazon has started direct-to-car deliveries:

Amazon is expanding its in-home delivery service called Key to include deliveries to trunks and back seats of cars. The service is available only to Amazon Prime members in 37 cities who have a 2015 or newer Chevrolet, Buick, GMC, Cadillac or Volvo with an active OnStar or Volvo On Call account.

Essentially, these are already connected cars that can be remotely unlocked — in this case for package delivery, which Amazon promises within a four-hour window. The shopper has to confirm that they've parked within range of the delivery location — in a publicly accessible area — and can track the progress through the Amazon Key app.

Source: https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/04/24/605057245/amazon-wants-to-deliver-packages-inside-your-car


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  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 18 2017, @07:42AM (33 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 18 2017, @07:42AM (#583837)
    • (Score: 4, Funny) by c0lo on Wednesday October 18 2017, @09:01AM (31 children)

      by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday October 18 2017, @09:01AM (#583854) Journal

      Does the trunk of your car really make for a more secure delivery, or is it multiplying insecurities?

      Insecurities, eh?
      Will Amazon deliver some bulk diesel on top of the ammonium n... err.rrr.. whatever it is stored in the trunk of m... err... a car parked somewhere close to... doesn't matter where... ?

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 18 2017, @10:05AM (3 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 18 2017, @10:05AM (#583867)

        They will probably deliver it, but you do realize there are some preparation steps involved in making it explosive, right? They aren't complicated, but you may prefer to perform this little chore some place more private than a parking lot.

        • (Score: 4, Funny) by c0lo on Wednesday October 18 2017, @10:25AM (2 children)

          by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday October 18 2017, @10:25AM (#583876) Journal

          Errr... who gave you the idea it will be me and it will be an explosive to be prepared?
          Looks like you're showing excessive signs of insecurity.

          (grin)

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          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 18 2017, @01:42PM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 18 2017, @01:42PM (#583937)

            If it quacks like a duck . . .

            (grins right back, 'cause you ain't the Cheshire cat)

            • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 18 2017, @04:50PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 18 2017, @04:50PM (#584008)

              Jesus, humor is lost on you types.

      • (Score: 4, Funny) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday October 18 2017, @10:28AM (26 children)

        by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Wednesday October 18 2017, @10:28AM (#583877) Homepage Journal

        More importantly, will they rearrange the dead hookers to make room for the bags of fertilizer or just leave a note saying there wasn't room to deliver?

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        • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Wednesday October 18 2017, @11:03AM

          by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday October 18 2017, @11:03AM (#583889) Journal

          What?!? I must be growing old, I thought I solved this batch last week.
          Hang on... they were fresh, you say?

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        • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Wednesday October 18 2017, @01:18PM (1 child)

          by Phoenix666 (552) on Wednesday October 18 2017, @01:18PM (#583917) Journal

          It'd be more likely to combine the dead hookers with bags of lime, wouldn't it?

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        • (Score: 4, Insightful) by terryk30 on Wednesday October 18 2017, @02:09PM (22 children)

          by terryk30 (1753) on Wednesday October 18 2017, @02:09PM (#583951)

          Not laughing here, and no "not funny" mod, so daring to post.

          I'm a man, and have actually never found stuff like this funny. In the past (in meatspace) I would weakly smile, as conditioned to.

          Sure, I could simply "get it" as (quite) clever and dark humour, but it's overwhelmed by a visceral distaste for the dead hookers theme in itself.

          What's always bugged me about humour like this is it's... inevitability (esp. when in groups of guys) and the implication that it is of course funny, no matter how crass or disrespectful.

          To explicitly bring gender into it, do people joke like this in the presence of their (female) S.O's?

          Oh crap, am I now getting labelled an SJW?

          I'm not censoring anyone. But I'm not censoring myself either. I can't have been the only one weakly smiling all this time.

          • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday October 18 2017, @03:23PM (17 children)

            by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Wednesday October 18 2017, @03:23PM (#583973) Homepage Journal

            Okay, here's the thing... Getting offended over something someone is serious about is all fine and good but getting offended over something they absolutely do not mean and that was said in jest means you have serious mental issues.

            As to telling jokes like this, I absolutely tell them in front of any S.O. or even prospective S.O. It's better to find out if she's going through life looking to be offended early, so you don't end up wasting years of your life on someone who can suck the fun out of anything. I advise making a dead hooker joke, or the like, on the first date just to be safe.

            Seriously, if you have things that you absolutely cannot laugh about under any circumstances, seek help or you'll end up living a pretty miserable life.

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            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 18 2017, @05:05PM (10 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 18 2017, @05:05PM (#584011)

              Gonna have to disagree with your absolutism. You make good points, having a sense of humor is important but that cuts both ways. Shock humor is "the thing" online, but it has gone beyond overboard. Not that I think your dead hooker joke was really that overboard, but it is important to realize when you are speaking to a larger audience and to adjust your behavior accordingly. No one is forcing you to self-censor, but getting offended by someone else being offended is the type of irony I've come to expect of you.

              The internet has normalized some of the worst horrors of humanity, and I think it is absolutely necessary for people like terryk30 to speak up and give some balance to the basement shut-in crowd. Every joke has its place, but shock humor is often used simply to be offensive which is a lead-in to put downs about being too sensitive.

              Again TMB I do not believe your joke was that big of a deal, or the full bore bullshit I'm describing above; except the complaining about complaining. That tickles me pink!

              • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday October 18 2017, @05:55PM (9 children)

                by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Wednesday October 18 2017, @05:55PM (#584025) Homepage Journal

                I'm not offended by his being offended. Tone didn't convey well apparently. It genuinely matters (to some degree) to me that an otherwise personable guy (not a lot to go on, but he seems decent so far) not go through life being miserable when there's nothing to be gained by it. Being able to laugh at any joke that wasn't made maliciously is a trait I'd highly advise every human on the planet to cultivate.

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                My rights don't end where your fear begins.
                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 18 2017, @06:12PM (6 children)

                  by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 18 2017, @06:12PM (#584032)

                  Eh, not so much. Again you're applying absolutism. If someone has been tortured they probably won't find torture jokes very funny, the same for every fucked up joke ever. There are quite a few topics that most people will find distasteful, and honestly I am more concerned about people who can not draw a line. Those are usually the types that take the jokes overboard to the point where even some die hard shockers are saying "woah man, take it easy." Racist jokes are one good example, as a culture we've decided those are not OK and using racist jokes will not go well for anyone outside a klan meeting.

                  Yes it is important to be able to laugh at most everything, but it is equally important to know the societal boundaries and when you should respect them. Again, this instance does not seem like a big deal, but it becomes easy to let shock culture take over and become "normal". It is not normal and such jokes should be carefully timed for a crowd that is likely to enjoy them. They should also have a good lead such as this story provided, but often I hear the worst shit spewed as some sort of one upmanship or for the pure shock value. Those are lame and offensive, and internet culture could do with a lot less of it.

                  Personally I have found out that major events in one's life can drastically shift a personal perspective, and "it's just a joke brah" is not a good excuse for doing/saying fucked up shit. You need to learn more about compromise, currently you are almost always 100% certain of your own beliefs and unwilling to entertain even slight variations. Terry shared a viewpoint he/she knew was going to get flak and you absolutely shut it down. No discussion, just "you're wrong get a sense of humor".

                  • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday October 18 2017, @07:23PM (5 children)

                    by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Wednesday October 18 2017, @07:23PM (#584070) Homepage Journal

                    You should get out of Berkeley. As long as there's no malice behind the joke, there are absolutely zero taboo topics for humor to a healthy mind.

                    "it's just a joke brah" is not a good excuse for doing/saying fucked up shit.

                    Yes, it absolutely is. Intent is what matters. Only intent.

                    Terry shared a viewpoint he/she knew was going to get flak and you absolutely shut it down.

                    I didn't give him grief, just corrected him. That often happens when you're unquestionably wrong about something. As it absolutely should.

                    tl;dr You're wrong, get a sense of humor.

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                    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 18 2017, @10:00PM (4 children)

                      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 18 2017, @10:00PM (#584170)

                      You lack some basic things in your brain. Probably a prefrontal cortex problem.

                      • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday October 18 2017, @10:32PM (3 children)

                        by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Wednesday October 18 2017, @10:32PM (#584201) Homepage Journal

                        Yeah, it totally lacks is the inability to place emotion ahead of reason. I must be a Nazi. Back to your safe space now, grown-ups are talking.

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                        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 18 2017, @11:58PM (2 children)

                          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 18 2017, @11:58PM (#584256)

                          Now you know! [youtube.com]

                          It puts the omega-3s in its stomach or else it gets the hose again! I'm not sure what region of the brain is tied to delusion, they probably haven't worked that out just yet. If you're so concerned about people calling you a Nazi that you'll say to about yourself then maybe it is time for some introspection. Sorry to trigger you, it was nice to have a reasonable discussion for at least a little bit.

                          • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday October 19 2017, @12:34AM (1 child)

                            by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Thursday October 19 2017, @12:34AM (#584285) Homepage Journal

                            Don't kid yourself. You were never reasonable. Only what passes for it from the regressive left.

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                            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 19 2017, @03:31AM

                              by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 19 2017, @03:31AM (#584354)

                              Heh, if I'm not reasonable you're a downright nazi :P since we're going down the ad-hominem path.

                • (Score: 2) by terryk30 on Wednesday October 18 2017, @10:33PM (1 child)

                  by terryk30 (1753) on Wednesday October 18 2017, @10:33PM (#584202)

                  I'm not miserable. I did recently tell a bunch of Jehovah's Witnesses that they scare me more than Trump and Kim Jong-un.

            • (Score: 2) by terryk30 on Wednesday October 18 2017, @09:36PM (5 children)

              by terryk30 (1753) on Wednesday October 18 2017, @09:36PM (#584145)

              Of course I know you didn't "mean it", in the sense I doubt you kill people and put them in your trunk, nor would think it funny in any actual case.

              It's not about whether I was "offended" or not. I'm glad the AC jumped in below because among other points they used a word that provides a possible nuance: I believe jokes like these are "distasteful" - yes, in the implied arguably-universal it's-not-that-I-have-a-problem sense.

              Yeah, I'm tapping against the thick part of gender, gamergate, Milo, Trump, PC-ness, and what flies around here at SN; to make a really long story short I believe there is something to be concerned with. I've witnessed some - how shall I say, serious disconnect when it comes to a not insignificant few men relating to women in an unhealthy way, and jokes like these were often part of the scene.

              So not saying that this means you're relating to women in an unhealthy way, but again (going where the AC does below), jokes like these may be over a line in that in their simmering totality - as part of a traditional guy-talk currency - they may be, um, normalizing (oops, SJW term) and thus possibly, subtly, encouraging the unhealthy stuff.

              As to reacting here to this particular joke, well, it being such a classic example is what got me to, this time, simply "give notice" that one person at least didn't find it funny.

              Hey, it comes down to what kind of world I want, right? ;-)

              • (Score: 2) by terryk30 on Wednesday October 18 2017, @09:40PM (1 child)

                by terryk30 (1753) on Wednesday October 18 2017, @09:40PM (#584150)

                (oops, instead of the AC below I meant the AC above)

                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 18 2017, @10:06PM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 18 2017, @10:06PM (#584177)

                  I appreciate you deciding to say something.

              • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday October 18 2017, @10:27PM (2 children)

                by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Wednesday October 18 2017, @10:27PM (#584197) Homepage Journal

                Gotcha. My perspective on it is if someone's intentionally being a douchebag while telling a joke, that's just them being a douchebag and I have no problem giving them grief over being such. The exact same joke could be quite funny told without malice though. So, it's really not about the joke but the intent.

                In this universe you'll not find a single particle or wave of offense. It does not exist in and of itself. A person has to affirmatively decide to allow themselves to be offended by something or they won't be. Thus, it's my position that being offended by a joke that was not intended to offend is a flaw in the listener rather than the speaker and that the listener would live a happier life if they worked to rid themselves of that flaw.

                Me, I take great pride in my ability to deliver humor well in person. I can tell a second-wave feminist the old "What do you tell a woman with two black eyes?" joke and I may get punched in the arm but she'll be laughing while she does it because she knows I'm just winding her up by the shit-eating grin on my face. I wouldn't bother telling it to a third-wave feminist though. I could still get a laugh, mind you, but I don't like being around hateful people.

                Racist jokes are some of my favorites. Tell me a wagon-burning Indian joke and I'll laugh harder than anyone. I could choose to be all offended, sure, but if not being offended and getting a laugh brightens my day, what does being offended gain me? Seriously, consider it for a minute or two. If you can choose to be offended or not, what benefit to your life does being offended bring?

                Now if you just don't find a joke especially funny, that's another matter entirely. Different strokes for different folks and all that.

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                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 19 2017, @12:07AM (1 child)

                  by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 19 2017, @12:07AM (#584262)

                  This is the problem right here, you're taking the whole thing WAY too personally when it is clearly about a larger net trend. That was your decision to get all butt hurt about it, but instead of seeing a cultural issue that hits very close to home for all of us on the net you doubled down on your personal world view. I don't think anyone would mistake you for an actual fascist, or say you're an irredeemable misogynist (cept azuma maybe), but you're applying your personal viewpoint on to a larger problem and it simply doesn't fit. I went out of my way to point out that your joke wasn't a big deal (to me anyway) but you just couldn't handle the discussion. There is a real problem with online culture that has very real effects. Perhaps you are able to compartmentalize horrible topics away from your general personality, but there are plenty of young people online who hear adults say shit and they assume it is normal. You can see the same thing in the "SJW" crowd you hate so much, they circle jerk themselves into hating anything that even resembles oppression to the point where they are the oppressors! I guess you'll never believe me when I tell you that you're very similar types, though I'd put you on the lower end of crazy.

          • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday October 18 2017, @03:25PM

            by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Wednesday October 18 2017, @03:25PM (#583976) Homepage Journal

            And, yes, I modded you Interesting. They were reasonable questions put forth in a civil manner and did not deserve to be shot down as Flamebait.

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          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 18 2017, @07:27PM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 18 2017, @07:27PM (#584073)

            It's a litmus test, and you failed.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 18 2017, @10:03PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 18 2017, @10:03PM (#584174)

              Says the beta cuck living in their parents outhouse. Grow up.

          • (Score: 2) by krishnoid on Wednesday October 18 2017, @10:28PM

            by krishnoid (1156) on Wednesday October 18 2017, @10:28PM (#584198)

            With more information [cnn.com] coming to light on this economy, does that make the meme less funny for more people? Or maybe Amazon guarantees they're sustainably farmed. I give up.

    • (Score: 2, Disagree) by DannyB on Wednesday October 18 2017, @06:17PM

      by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday October 18 2017, @06:17PM (#584035) Journal

      Just because Walmart attracts a dangerous type doesn't mean that all stores do.

      If Walmart wanted to change that, it would.

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  • (Score: 2) by BsAtHome on Wednesday October 18 2017, @08:10AM (2 children)

    by BsAtHome (889) on Wednesday October 18 2017, @08:10AM (#583841)

    Why not build an underground conveyor system? You know, the one using air pressure to push mail through pipes (make it a minihyperloop).
    You could also pool resources and do shopping with the neighbors? Surely, it saves on transport costs.
    You even might want to make a list before shopping and then buy stuff in one go? Instead of ten times one package, you get to get one package with ten items.
    How about some restraint? Do you really need that two hour interesting throw-away gadget right now?
    You can take your bicycle for a ride and get your package at the local store? Some exercise as you go along too.

    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Phoenix666 on Wednesday October 18 2017, @01:23PM

      by Phoenix666 (552) on Wednesday October 18 2017, @01:23PM (#583918) Journal

      They had a system like that in downtown Chicago--subterranean mail tunnels. It was that defunct system of tunnels that flooded and caused the Chicago blackout (because utilities used them to run power cables later) in the 90's when a barge working on a bridge across the Chicago river pierced a retaining wall.

      I like your idea, though. With all the low-cost computers and components available now we should be able to do what you're talking about. It would be wonderful to get all the delivery trucks and semis off city streets. Traffic flow would improve.

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    • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Wednesday October 18 2017, @06:23PM

      by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday October 18 2017, @06:23PM (#584038) Journal

      Better idea. A centralized tunnel delivery system that connects with every home or business in the entire USA.

      The delivery chamber would have two doors. One on the side of the delivery drone / person. The other door for the shipment receiver to retrieve the delivered item. This 2nd door could be secured by a cheap door latch of door chain for secure security from intruding intruders.

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  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by RamiK on Wednesday October 18 2017, @08:16AM (2 children)

    by RamiK (1813) on Wednesday October 18 2017, @08:16AM (#583842)

    If memory serves, a car's trunk requires some special search warrant clause. So, the same legal construction could be used to grant an Amazon delivery to a car's trunk the legal protections normal mail delivery has.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 18 2017, @10:09AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 18 2017, @10:09AM (#583869)

      Your car can't be searched without a warrant, unless you leave your open containers, or drugs in plain sight. That gives them probable cause. Although a drug sniffing dog gives them "legal" probable cause, that can be pretty damned bogus. Dog is led around a car they want to search two or more times, and he doesn't "hit" on anything. Dog handler pulls out a ball that he and the dog plays with, he bounces it from the ground to the window of the car, dog lunges for ball, and all the law enforcement officers swear that the dog "hit" on the car. More bogus science at work here!!

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 18 2017, @09:51PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 18 2017, @09:51PM (#584162)

        IANAL, but here is one: http://lawcomic.net/guide/?p=1859 [lawcomic.net]

        Or if you want the summary: http://lawcomic.net/guide/?p=2256 [lawcomic.net]

        Short summary, "it depends." Why did they stop you, and why they are searching.

  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by Nuke on Wednesday October 18 2017, @08:41AM (4 children)

    by Nuke (3162) on Wednesday October 18 2017, @08:41AM (#583848)

    Why not have a cupboard in the wall of your house, or externally, into which a courier can drop things? It could be left unlocked and then lock automatically when the courier re-shuts the door after the drop. I do have something like that myself, a large mail box with a combination lock. I put the combination in my address for package delivery, and change it from time to time. Problem is whether the courier has enough grey cells to unsderstand the system, but if it were more widely used ...........

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 18 2017, @09:05AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 18 2017, @09:05AM (#583855)

      Why not have a cupboard in the wall of your house, or externally, into which a courier can drop things? It could be left unlocked and then lock automatically when the courier re-shuts the door after the drop.

      If you tell me your address, it will be my pleasure to drop by and lock it before the courier arrives.

    • (Score: 2) by deadstick on Wednesday October 18 2017, @12:07PM

      by deadstick (5110) on Wednesday October 18 2017, @12:07PM (#583895)

      It will be interesting to see if home builders start offering a sort of "air lock" -- unlockable on the outside by authorized delivery services, on the inside only by the owner. You could give blanket authorization to UPS, Fedex, etc. or you could give them a one-time code when you make an order.

    • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Wednesday October 18 2017, @01:25PM (1 child)

      by Phoenix666 (552) on Wednesday October 18 2017, @01:25PM (#583920) Journal

      I think they have a system like that in the Canadian maritimes. Everyone seemed to have a cabinet like that at the foot of their driveway instead of the mailbox you'd see elsewhere.

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      • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday October 18 2017, @01:46PM

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday October 18 2017, @01:46PM (#583940) Journal

        Bear proof mailboxes? Interesting. And, probably moose proof too! But, what about the rodents?

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 18 2017, @09:47AM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 18 2017, @09:47AM (#583862)

    Heard this idea a couple of years ago. The C,mm,n (Common) was intended to be an open source car, they had the idea to have a hatch in the driver seat's door where a postman could deliver a small package.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 18 2017, @09:52AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 18 2017, @09:52AM (#583863)

      Poop, bombs, urine, gasoline, wet cement...

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 18 2017, @09:29PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 18 2017, @09:29PM (#584138)

        ...eggs, paint, varnish, glue, used condoms, cigarette butts...

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 18 2017, @10:12AM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 18 2017, @10:12AM (#583871)

    We already have an abundance of police planting evidence to make a bust. How about, we just make it easier for them to "hack" our vehicles, so they can plant whatever they wish to plant? Sounds like a great idea. People investing in prisons for profit need to be assured of their profit!!

    • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Wednesday October 18 2017, @01:27PM (1 child)

      by Phoenix666 (552) on Wednesday October 18 2017, @01:27PM (#583922) Journal

      Wouldn't that make it easier for the accused to show reasonable doubt?

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 18 2017, @03:43PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 18 2017, @03:43PM (#583982)

        If you are the sort of person where the courts would listen to those sort of claims of reasonable doubt, then you are not going to be the target of those types of frame-up.

  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by looorg on Wednesday October 18 2017, @10:52AM (4 children)

    by looorg (578) on Wednesday October 18 2017, @10:52AM (#583886)

    Less then a month ago Walmart wanted to deliver things straight into my fridge, now Amazon wants to do the same and also get access to my car? Cause getting into my house just wasn't, intrusive, enough? Overall I would say all the previous comments still apply.

    https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=17/09/23/0126223 [soylentnews.org]

    • (Score: 2) by Grishnakh on Wednesday October 18 2017, @02:47PM (2 children)

      by Grishnakh (2831) on Wednesday October 18 2017, @02:47PM (#583960)

      I don't know about you, but I consider access to my house much more intrusive than access to my car. I don't sleep in my car.

      Not that either of these are good ideas.

      • (Score: 2) by krishnoid on Wednesday October 18 2017, @10:29PM (1 child)

        by krishnoid (1156) on Wednesday October 18 2017, @10:29PM (#584200)

        Intrusive? Just wait until they consider their direct delivery opportunities in the marital aids market.

        • (Score: 2) by darkfeline on Thursday October 19 2017, @03:01AM

          by darkfeline (1030) on Thursday October 19 2017, @03:01AM (#584344) Homepage

          Stick your little boy through the hole in the wall and wait a few minutes for the Amazon drone to fly by and install protection? Sounds like Amazon could strike gold offering add-on services...

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 18 2017, @07:31PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 18 2017, @07:31PM (#584079)

      This is not a problem to people who by living in large, dense metro areas have had the part of the brain that senses danger turned entirely off, due to mix of suppression and atrophy.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 18 2017, @05:14PM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 18 2017, @05:14PM (#584012)

    Seeing the order I placed on Sunday getting held until Wednesday because I chose free shipping doesn't seem so convenient to me.
    I'd still rather order from Newegg, some of their stuff may ship from the other side of the country, but they process immediately and charge no sales tax.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 18 2017, @06:19PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 18 2017, @06:19PM (#584036)

      I wish amazon would go away. They are a monster swallowing up all the small shops and charging a middle-man fee. One glaring problem with capitalism is it allows businesses to over charge when there is little to no competition, and screw over their partners because they're the big dog. Something like amazon should work on providing a good UI/UX for sellers and buyers, and their pricing should be dropped way WAY down. Same for Netflix, there is no market force to correct for over charging. 100+ million subscribers, at $10/month, that means they are getting almost 1bn a month! That is pure insanity for a bunch of servers and some content production. Our economic model is broken folks! You either win the lottery or you don't, and there aren't many slots available. Even if you built the product you're still not the one with your name on the special piece of paper, so the people who do the actual work are screwed by the person lucky enough to be in the right place at the right time. Broken!

      • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Wednesday October 18 2017, @06:42PM (1 child)

        by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday October 18 2017, @06:42PM (#584046) Journal

        There are several giant problems with physical retail that make Amazon attractive.

        Shelves so high up that product cannot be reached.

        Re-arranging of the store. I used to know exactly where in the store to get everything I wanted. Now it's all moved around. It's almost as if . . . they wanted to make me stay in the store longer.

        Disappearance of good products. You find a product you like. Use it for years. Suddenly it goes away and is replaced by a similar but clearly inferior product at a similar price. Why not keep the old product and raise the price? Now I have to find another place that sells the product I want and was buying for years.

        Too many variations on a product making it very difficult to find the one you want.
        * Windows Home Basic
        * Windows with Tartar Control
        * Windows with Baking Soda
        * Windows with Peroxide
        * Windows Extra Whitening
        * Windows White 3D1
        * etc

        On Amazon, I can find the product I want and bookmark it. Or simply find it from my past orders and re-order it.

        On Amazon, I can find an even larger selection than in big box retail, but I can look at it in comfort rather than in a store. Standing and walking. Or having to hunt for it in multiple stores, involving more driving, parking, standing, walking, hunting, wild goose chase, etc.

        Now a local grocer will let me shop on line. Select when I want to pick up. Text me when it is ready for pick up. I can drive up. Pop the tailgate. Have it loaded without having to get out of the vehicle. And if I spend over $100 (easy to do) this service is free. Otherwise, about $3. Incredibly worth it. And I don't mind if the stores prices are a wee bit higher. I'm paying for convenience. Just like having grocery checkers that actually bag groceries, and have more than one check out line open, and don't try to force me into self check out. (One time, I abandoned my cart and just walked out when nothing but self check out was open.)

        So I don't have too much pity for retailers that compete with Amazon. There are retailers that DO make my retail shopping experience worthwhile. (And they don't have "How May I Hurt You" smocks.) There are retailers that are looking at ways to compete with Amazon. Hint: this is a GOOD thing.

        1(because 3D toothpaste works so much better than toothpaste that works in only two dimensions. Next they need to incorporate the word "digital" into a toothpaste name.)

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        • (Score: 2) by kazzie on Wednesday October 18 2017, @08:44PM

          by kazzie (5309) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday October 18 2017, @08:44PM (#584121)

          How about digidental?

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