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posted by martyb on Saturday November 04 2017, @12:16PM   Printer-friendly
from the getting-warmer dept.

According to a new government report obtained by NPR, it is "extremely likely" that human activities are the "dominant cause" of global warming.

The report states that the last 115 years are "the warmest in the history of modern civilization."

The report "NCA4" is the nation's most authoritative assessment of climate science. The report's authors include experts from leading scientific agencies, including the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, NASA and the Department of Energy, as well as academic scientists.

Also at Ars Technica:

The topline conclusion is obviously the degree to which observed global warming is human-caused, and the report pulls no punches: “Many lines of evidence demonstrate that it is extremely likely that human influence has been the dominant cause of the observed warming since the mid-20th century. Over the last century, there are no convincing alternative explanations supported by the extent of the observational evidence.”


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This is because the NRA put pressure on the CDC through a Republican Congress to halt this research, under the logic that it promotes the cause of gun control.

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  • (Score: 1, Funny) by realDonaldTrump on Saturday November 04 2017, @12:34PM (4 children)

    by realDonaldTrump (6614) on Saturday November 04 2017, @12:34PM (#592141) Homepage Journal

    NYC is reeling after its worst terror attack since 9-11. And Broadcom Limited, amazing company with $20 billion in revenue, is coming back to the U.S.A. Very important stories being IGNORED so we can discuss this piece crapped out by the deep state. Because administrators here are very biased!

    • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 04 2017, @03:36PM (3 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 04 2017, @03:36PM (#592196)

      Those pussy hat protesters, and that annoying march in New York, were the work of Russia. SoylentNews has the scoop, still waiting to get a time slot:

      https://soylentnews.org/submit.pl?op=viewsub&subid=23152 [soylentnews.org]

      Before the Senate Judiciary panel, Facebook general counsel Colin Stretch and Twitter general counsel Sean Edgett revealed that Russia was behind the post-election riots. All those "grassroots" protests in NY and DC, with "Not my president!" and the pussy hats, were being pushed into existence by Russia.

      http://dailycaller.com/2017/11/02/growing-evidence-that-russia-using-the-resistance-to-stoke-division/ [dailycaller.com]

      Dems always blame others for what they are doing. Mistreating women? Anthony Weiner turns himself in for federal prison on Monday! Hating blacks? The candidate for Virginia governor removed a black person from his campaign material to please his supporters! Chasing a covered muslim girl by vehicle and then killing her, like that Virginia campaign ad suggests? It's been done, and it was hot news until the attacker turned out to be a Mexican illegal! Dirty deals with Russians? The above, plus UraniumOne, plus $9 million or $12 million to create fake news, and we even had a "hot mike" incident with Obama offering "more flexibility" after "his" reelection!

      • (Score: 1, Offtopic) by captain normal on Saturday November 04 2017, @05:06PM (2 children)

        by captain normal (2205) on Saturday November 04 2017, @05:06PM (#592214)

        Whoosh....

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        "It is easier to fool someone than it is to convince them that they have been fooled" Mark Twain
        • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 04 2017, @05:47PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 04 2017, @05:47PM (#592226)

          Ignoring the Russian control over the left, and then protecting this on the right, doesn't make the truth go away.

          The history goes back literally a century. This stuff is STILL happening.

        • (Score: 2) by captain normal on Sunday November 05 2017, @05:31AM

          by captain normal (2205) on Sunday November 05 2017, @05:31AM (#592392)

          Who ever modded this down just doesn't get that "The Real Donald Trump" is sarcastic take on the great orange one seriously lacks some cognitive capacity.

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          "It is easier to fool someone than it is to convince them that they have been fooled" Mark Twain
  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 04 2017, @12:54PM (8 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 04 2017, @12:54PM (#592143)
    "notes that the past 115 years are "the warmest in the history of modern civilization""
    Then where are the grapes in Vinland and the grasslands in Greenland?
    Oh is "the modern civilization" unobtrusivelly defined as "since the Little Ice Age", isn't it? ;)
    • (Score: 5, Informative) by fritsd on Saturday November 04 2017, @02:09PM (3 children)

      by fritsd (4586) on Saturday November 04 2017, @02:09PM (#592161) Journal

      LMGTFY.

      Then where are the grapes in Vinland (...)

      Only special, hardy varieties apparently:
      Grape growing potential 'wide open' in Newfoundland, says provincial fruit expert (2016-03-20) [www.cbc.ca]

      Grape varieties of Newfoundland (2013) [winesofcanada.com]

      "Newfoundland and Labrador is located on the eastern edge of North America . Newfound it self is an Island Labrador
                              sits on the coast with Quebec on its wester boundry. The northern entrance from the Atlantic ocan seperates the island from Labrador.
                              Only the Island grows fruit producing wines."

      (...) and the grasslands in Greenland?

      Århus University studied it for the government of Greenland in 2016. Not much agriculture as of yet, mostly grass for sheep:

      There is potential for agriculture in Greenland (2017-07-24) [agro.au.dk]

      In order to clarify if former, abandoned sheep farming areas can be revived now that climate changes are potentially increasing the area that can be used for animal farming, the researchers recommend that analyses of resource use in reindeer farming and sheep farming, respectively, be carried out.

      You're welcome.

      • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 04 2017, @03:21PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 04 2017, @03:21PM (#592189)

        ...abandoned sheep farming areas can be revived now that climate changes...

        Q.E.D.
        Now what was that sob story about "warmest in the history of modern civilization" again? ;)

        • (Score: 2) by fritsd on Saturday November 04 2017, @08:22PM

          by fritsd (4586) on Saturday November 04 2017, @08:22PM (#592280) Journal

          The report states that the last 115 years are "the warmest in the history of modern civilization."

          Greenland is expected to warm much quicker than most of the rest of the world (being in the Arctic), but I'm doing a wild guess that "the warmest in the history of modern civilization" from TFA referred to GLOBAL warming not GREENLAND warming.
          OTOH, parent comment *was* specifically about East Canada ("Vinland", amirite?) and Greenland warming. The Vikings abandoned their settlements on Greenland [wikipedia.org]; it must have gotten too cold for too many years *locally*.

      • (Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 04 2017, @03:41PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 04 2017, @03:41PM (#592198)

        And what about the pyramids in Antarctica?

    • (Score: 2) by Thexalon on Saturday November 04 2017, @03:04PM (3 children)

      by Thexalon (636) Subscriber Badge on Saturday November 04 2017, @03:04PM (#592182)

      The grasslands of Greenland are still there, at least according to the Danish tourist bureau [greenland-guide.dk].

      That said, there's been repeated claims that Erik the Red named it "greenland" more as a marketing ploy than anything else.

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      The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
      • (Score: 1, Funny) by kanweg on Saturday November 04 2017, @03:15PM (2 children)

        by kanweg (4737) on Saturday November 04 2017, @03:15PM (#592187)

        Are you sure it wasn't Erik the Orange?

        ....

        • (Score: 0, Offtopic) by rylyeh on Saturday November 04 2017, @05:55PM

          by rylyeh (6726) <kadathNO@SPAMgmail.com> on Saturday November 04 2017, @05:55PM (#592230)

          Due to the use of ochre [wikipedia.org] for red in those days, shouldn't it be 'Eric the Ochre'?

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          "a vast crenulate shell wherein rode the grey and awful form of primal Nodens, Lord of the Great Abyss."
        • (Score: 0, Offtopic) by petecox on Saturday November 04 2017, @05:58PM

          by petecox (3228) on Saturday November 04 2017, @05:58PM (#592234)

          That was just her trans/cosplay persona. On weekdays she was just a mild mannered civil engineer named Hilde from Stavanger.
          But call yourself Erik, glue a.red beard to your chin, craft a.helmet with horns on it and its pretty easy to blend in and out drink, out rape and out pillage a bunch of scrawny, pasty white Scandi dudes.

  • (Score: 3, Funny) by The Mighty Buzzard on Saturday November 04 2017, @01:56PM (6 children)

    by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Saturday November 04 2017, @01:56PM (#592155) Homepage Journal

    I'm doing my part. Just picked up another case of refried beans the other day. Oh, wait, you guys didn't want it warmer?

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    My rights don't end where your fear begins.
    • (Score: 0, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 04 2017, @02:29PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 04 2017, @02:29PM (#592168)

      Your application for Superfund site has bean approved.

      • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 04 2017, @03:23PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 04 2017, @03:23PM (#592192)

        I see what you did there:
            http://www.homophone.com/h/bean-been [homophone.com]

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 04 2017, @03:59PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 04 2017, @03:59PM (#592203)

          You must be an acoustic child.

    • (Score: 3, Touché) by Thexalon on Saturday November 04 2017, @04:05PM

      by Thexalon (636) Subscriber Badge on Saturday November 04 2017, @04:05PM (#592204)

      You must be that fellow dating "methane" Rose [soylentnews.org].

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      The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
    • (Score: 1) by Ethanol-fueled on Saturday November 04 2017, @05:58PM (1 child)

      by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Saturday November 04 2017, @05:58PM (#592233) Homepage

      " Just picked up another case of refried beans the other day. "

      Well, somebody's gotta do the yardwork.

  • (Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 04 2017, @11:55PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 04 2017, @11:55PM (#592310)

    Are these the same government types who gave us baseless nutrition advice? The same universities whose professors supported eugenics in the early part of the 20th century? This global warming scare will be another feather in their cap.

    • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 05 2017, @10:31AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 05 2017, @10:31AM (#592457)

      I'd say that's pretty darn unlikely. You know, scientist have a field of study. If you don't like science, what the hell are you going to trust? An ouijaboard and magic mushrooms? Or do you just suggest we call collectively bury our heads in the sand and wish the problems of the world away?

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