She Took On Colombia's Soda Industry. Then She Was Silenced.
It began with menacing phone calls, strange malfunctions of the office computers, and men in parked cars photographing the entrance to the small consumer advocacy group's offices. Then at dusk one day last December, Dr. Esperanza Cerón, the head of the organization, said she noticed two strange men on motorcycles trailing her Chevy sedan as she headed home from work. She tried to lose them in Bogotá's rush-hour traffic, but they edged up to her car and pounded on the windows. "If you don't keep your mouth shut," one man shouted, she recalled in a recent interview, "you know what the consequences will be."
The episode, which Dr. Cerón reported to federal investigators, was reminiscent of the intimidation often used against those who challenged the drug cartels that once dominated Colombia. But the narcotics trade was not the target of Dr. Cerón and her colleagues. Their work had upset a different multibillion-dollar industry: the makers of soda and other sugar-sweetened beverages.
Their organization, Educar Consumidores, was the most visible proponent of a proposed 20 percent tax on sugary drinks that was heading for a vote that month in Colombia's Legislature. The group had raised money, rallied allies to the cause and produced a provocative television ad that warned consumers how sugar-laden beverages can lead to obesity and diet-related illnesses like diabetes. The backlash was fierce. A Colombian government agency, responding to a complaint by the nation's leading soda company that called the ad misleading, ordered it off the air. Then the agency went further: It prohibited Dr. Cerón and her colleagues from publicly discussing the health risks of sugar, under penalty of a $250,000 fine.
Related: Scientists Find Shorter Telomeres in Immune Cells of Soda Drinkers
US Army says Only 30% of Americans Qualified to Join
Obesity Surges to 13.6% in Ghana
America Gets Even Fatter From 2015-2016
Related Stories
http://www.ucsf.edu/news/2014/10/119431/sugared-soda-consumption-cell-aging-associated-new-study
Abstract: http://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/abs/10.2105/AJPH.2014.302151
Consumption of sugar-sweetened soda is associated with shorter telomers in white blood cells, according to a new study, which could promote disease. From the article (causation bit highlighted to avoid redundant comments):
Sugar-sweetened soda consumption might promote disease independently from its role in obesity, according to UC San Francisco researchers who found in a new study that drinking sugary drinks was associated with cell aging.
The study revealed that telomeres — the protective units of DNA that cap the ends of chromosomes in cells — were shorter in the white blood cells of survey participants who reported drinking more soda.
The length of telomeres within white blood cells — where it can most easily be measured — has previously been associated with human lifespan. Short telomeres also have been associated with the development of chronic diseases of aging, including heart disease, diabetes, and some types of cancer.
The authors cautioned that they only compared telomere length and sugar-sweetened soda consumption for each participant at a single time point, and that an association does not demonstrate causation. Epel is co-leading a new study in which participants will be tracked for weeks in real time to look for effects of sugar-sweetened soda consumption on aspects of cellular aging. Telomere shortening has previously been associated with oxidative damage to tissue, to inflammation, and to insulin resistance.
Not mentioned in the press release, but in the abstract, was that 100% fruit juice was marginally associated with longer telomeres.
After adjustment for sociodemographic and health-related characteristics, sugar-sweetened soda consumption was associated with shorter telomeres (b = –0.010; 95% confidence interval [CI] = −0.020, −0.001; P = .04). Consumption of 100% fruit juice was marginally associated with longer telomeres (b = 0.016; 95% CI = −0.000, 0.033; P = .05). No significant associations were observed between consumption of diet sodas or noncarbonated SSBs and telomere length.
Clifford Davis reports that seven out of 10 young people between the ages of 17 and 24 are ineligible to become soldiers primarily due to three issues: obesity or health problems; lack of a high school education; and criminal histories.
"There's a reliance on an ever-smaller group of people to serve and defend the country," says Maj. Gen. Allen Batschelet, "What do we do about that and how do we address that concern?"
While cognitive and moral disqualifications have held steady, weight issues account for 18% of disqualifications, and the number is rising steadily, according to Batschelet. It's projected to hit 25% by 2025, which Batschelet calls "troubling."
Obesity Was Rising as Ghana Embraced Fast Food. Then Came KFC.
Ghana, a coastal African country of more than 28 million still etched with pockets of extreme poverty, has enjoyed unprecedented national prosperity in the last decade, buoyed by offshore oil. Though the economy slowed abruptly not long ago, it is rebounding and the signs of new fortune are evident: millions moving to cities for jobs, shopping malls popping up and fast food roaring in to greet people hungry for a contemporary lifestyle.
Chief among the corporate players is KFC, and its parent company, YUM!, which have muscled northward from South Africa — where KFC has about 850 outlets and a powerful brand name — throughout sub-Saharan Africa: to Angola, Tanzania, Nigeria, Uganda, Kenya, Ghana and beyond. The company brings the flavors that have made it popular in the West, seasoned with an intangible: the symbolic association of fast food with rich nations.
But KFC's expansion here comes as obesity and related health problems have been surging. Public health officials see fried chicken, french fries and pizza as spurring and intensifying a global obesity epidemic that has hit hard in Ghana — one of 73 countries where obesity has at least doubled since 1980. In that period, Ghana's obesity rates have surged more than 650 percent, from less than 2 percent of the population to 13.6 percent, according to the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation, an independent research center at the University of Washington.
The U.S. had a 13% obesity rate in 1962. The CDC estimated that 36.5-37.7% of U.S. adults aged 20+ were obese in 2014 (17% of children/teenagers aged 2-19).
The obesity rate in the U.S. is continuing to rise (slowly, off the couch):
The new measure of the nation's weight problem, released early Friday by statisticians from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, chronicles dramatic increases from the nation's obesity levels since the turn of the 21st century.
Adult obesity rates have climbed steadily from a rate of 30.5% in 1999-2000 to 39.8% in 2015-2016, the most recent period for which data were available. That represents a 30% increase. Childrens' rates of obesity have risen roughly 34% in the same period, from 13.9% in 1999-2000 to 18% in 2015-2016.
Seen against a more distant backdrop, the new figures show an even starker pattern of national weight-gain over a generation. In the period between 1976 and 1980, the same national survey found that roughly 15% of adults and just 5.5% of children qualified as obese. In the time that's elapsed since "Saturday Night Fever" was playing in movie theaters and Ronald Reagan won the presidency, rates of obesity in the United States have nearly tripled.
The new report, from the CDC's National Center for Health Statistics, measures obesity according to body mass index. This is a rough measure of fatness that takes a person's weight (measured in kilograms) and divides it by their height (measured in meters) squared. For adults, those with a BMI between 18.5 and 24.9 are considered to have a "normal" weight. A BMI between 25 and 29.9 is considered overweight, and anything above 30 is deemed obese. (You can calculate yours here.)
Obesity rates for children and teens are based on CDC growth charts that use a baseline period between 1963 and 1994. Those with a BMI above the 85th percentile are considered overweight, and those above the 95th percentile are considered obese.
70.7% of Americans are overweight or obese, according to the CDC's data for 2015-2016.
The Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development expects the U.S. obesity rate to reach 47% in 2030.
Related: Obesity Surges to 13.6% in Ghana
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Bot on Friday November 17 2017, @02:20PM (3 children)
Ideally get proof, make videos being careful to document and not accuse, disseminate them. Anyway the streisand effect seems to have kicked in.
Oh and get a linux cd or use toram when booting linux from usb key, or even better consider all your communication compromised already.
Account abandoned.
(Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 17 2017, @02:29PM (2 children)
huh?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 17 2017, @02:38PM (1 child)
Ha!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 17 2017, @06:39PM
Meh. I drive from behind 7 dashcams.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by LoRdTAW on Friday November 17 2017, @03:09PM (38 children)
As much as I love sweets, sugar is one of the worst things to happen to food in a long time. After cutting down sugar to almost nothing, I've lost a little over 15 lbs over the past year. I went from awkwardly fitting into a large with a big gut sticking out to fitting into a medium shirt with minor gut protrusion. I cut out all sweet drinks. I only drink: water, fresh iced green tea with fresh lemon, black coffee, and seltzer. Might sound boring but I assure you, you stop caring for the sweet drinks. And after abstaining from soda for over a year, I can't drink it any more as it upsets my stomach.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 17 2017, @03:18PM (6 children)
Ok, now stop eating bread and baked beans (read the label, you'll be amazed how much sugar Heinz puts in) and drop the pasteurized beer (and no, Bud and Coors aren't even beers)
(Score: 2) by takyon on Friday November 17 2017, @03:22PM
Step away from the pumpkin pie and cranberry sauce.
[SIG] 10/28/2017: Soylent Upgrade v14 [soylentnews.org]
(Score: 3, Interesting) by LoRdTAW on Friday November 17 2017, @03:57PM
Baked beans don't have to be mass manufactured to contain a shit load of sugar. The main flavoring ingredients found in any decent baked beans recipe are brown sugar, molasses and ketchup.
I used to drink a lot. At least 4 nights of heavy drinking throughout my 20's. Now in my late 30's I'm lucky if I have a few beers per month. All of my old drinking buddies moved, had families, or grew tired of it and I feel the same way. I even used to have a sixer or two in the fridge every week. Haven't done that in 5 years. Now I simply smoke a bunch of weed if I want to get wasted. Worst case I eat a bunch of leftovers and sleep longer the next morning. And I agree, coors and budweiser are abominations.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 17 2017, @04:38PM (3 children)
What's going to really shock you is how much fructose is in an apple!
Well, actually I do hear you on bread. All the bread I can find, even supposed "slimwiches" (flatbread buns that are supposed to be healthier but just have the exact same number of calories), have sugar. I guess I kind of gave up and decided that if I wanted bread, I'd accept the sugar. Does bread really need sugar? IANABaker.
(Score: 4, Informative) by Snow on Friday November 17 2017, @04:51PM
Bread doesn't 'need' sugar. A basic bread recipe is yeast, water, flour and salt.
Sugar can add sweetness to the bread (duh) but the yeast also feed on the sugar helping things rise faster. Most of the bread that I make has about a tablespoon of sugar per loaf, so not much.
(Score: 3, Informative) by HiThere on Friday November 17 2017, @06:38PM (1 child)
Most bread needs some sugar to enable a rapid rise time, but excess sugar is not needed by the yeast. When I was making bread I generally used about a teaspoon of sugar for a loaf, and it wasn't a small loaf. If you don't add sugar at all you need to extend the rise time significantly, but I haven't experimented to find out how much (and anyway it varies with temperature and air pressure).
Javascript is what you use to allow unknown third parties to run software you have no idea about on your computer.
(Score: 3, Informative) by t-3 on Saturday November 18 2017, @02:15PM
Most "no-knead" recipes don't add sugar, they just allow a long time for the dough to ferment and rise prior to baking (18-48 hours in most).
(Score: 4, Interesting) by bzipitidoo on Friday November 17 2017, @04:12PM (25 children)
I quit soda pop years ago. Restaurants charging over $1, and even pushing past $2 for a drink helped push me away.
Wish I'd known in high school that excessive sugar also causes acne. Used to pay no attention to ingredients and would eat those sorts that were upwards of 99% sugar: fruit chews, hard candies, toffees and caramels, syrups. Now I check and if the food is more than 1/3 sugar, I avoid it. Also try to avoid more than 1/4 sugar. I tried dried fruit, but that can be more than 50% sugar. So called healthy granola bars can be terrible too, worse than an honest candy bar.
I'm not too sure about carbs either. I understand that they very quickly convert into sugar once in your digestion, making them about as bad as just eating sugar. Weight Watchers assigns points to foods, and urges members to keep points down to control their weight. One thing that stands out is that they assign a lot of points to bread. One blueberry muffin from the bakery is more points than most full meals. Bakeries are coy about the ingredients, but a muffin is a double whammy. It's bread with lots of sugar. The glazed donut is another bad food.
Eat apples and other fruits. It seems that sugar is a lot better if it's embedded in fiber. Make your digestion work a little to liberate the sugar.
(Score: 2) by Grishnakh on Friday November 17 2017, @04:18PM (16 children)
I quit soda pop years ago. Restaurants charging over $1, and even pushing past $2 for a drink helped push me away.
Same here. I used to be able to eat and drink whatever I wanted when I was young, but in my late 20s it caught up with me and I had a weight problem. The biggest change I made was not drinking any more soda, and after making that change it was easy staying at my normal weight (eating some other healthier things helped too, but the sheer number of calories I was getting from soda was probably the biggest factor).
(Score: 2) by LoRdTAW on Friday November 17 2017, @04:50PM (15 children)
Ah, the late 20's bulge. I remember I was about 28 when I started noticing my gut was growing exponentially from all the drinking. It really hit me after my grandmother's poignant comment to me one day: "You better get rid of that gut! Girls don't want to look down and see a big fat gut, they want to see something else..." Uh, thanks grandma.
I didn't start right away but I knew I had to stop drinking and eat more healthy foods (it was all junk all the time). Once I hit 30 I realized I was going from overweight to obese which I knew I had to stop. I started to hate taking pictures because my fat face and body were embarrassing. Then a few brutally honest friends started calling me fat and that was it. I joined a boxing gym and lost 20 lbs over 8 months while gaining muscle. Then the gym went under and I never went anywhere else. I managed to keep my weight down through my early and mid 30's but never seemed to go below 210 lbs. Then I started cutting out sugar. Now I'm around 195 lbs and looking to add an exercise routine once I figure out how to get my chaotic depression and anxiety riddled life together.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Grishnakh on Friday November 17 2017, @05:59PM (9 children)
Regular exercise really helps with the depression and anxiety. Personally, I recommend getting a bike and finding some nice (and safe) trails to ride on. Gyms bore the hell out of me (and many seem to be filled with guys who look like criminals) and I like to feel like I'm accomplishing something or getting somewhere, even if it's just to see nature.
(Score: 2) by HiThere on Friday November 17 2017, @06:42PM (8 children)
Exercise helps with depression, health, etc. But don't expect it to help you lose weigh, as it also increases appetite (just not immediately after the exercise). Only diet can cause you to lose weight...and possibly having the right gut bacteria, though I think that's still being debated, and, of course, there's no agreement on what the right bacteria are or how to get them, but it will probably come down to diet.
Javascript is what you use to allow unknown third parties to run software you have no idea about on your computer.
(Score: 2) by Grishnakh on Friday November 17 2017, @07:02PM
I completely disagree. The total lack of obese people in Manhattan, plus all the other places around the developed world where people walk a lot, is proof enough that exercise helps maintain weight. More exercise = higher metabolism.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 17 2017, @08:29PM
Just because your hungry doesn't mean you have to eat. That's what fasting is all about. Getting the right bacteria is a matter of providing them with the right environment and understanding that that environment is meant to ebb and flow. Glut, encroaching famine, seasonal availability, food requirements related to extra work that needs to be done. All this ensures that the biome has a broad spectrum of constituents that can adapt to change in a symbolically useful fashion.
Everytime I've put on weight the way I've lost it is exercise. Didn't change my diet or the quantity I consumed. Not a miracle, what else could possibly happen.
(Score: 2) by coolgopher on Saturday November 18 2017, @03:27AM (5 children)
I find myself *less* hungry after I've exercised. Evenings when I've been at training I've usually no mind for dinner, I just prefer to drink plenty to re-hydrate.
(Score: 2) by HiThere on Saturday November 18 2017, @06:15AM (4 children)
I agree, that's a common experience. But weight isn't a thing of one day at a time, and I believe that most studies show that the weight gain averages out over time, so that other times you eat more...perhaps the next morning or something.
That said, exercise certainly contributes to health, stamina, alertness, etc. I wish I didn't dislike it so much.
Javascript is what you use to allow unknown third parties to run software you have no idea about on your computer.
(Score: 2) by t-3 on Saturday November 18 2017, @02:08PM (3 children)
I've always found exercise to be an acquired taste. It seems to take a week or two of regular exercise to condition the body to start giving you that serotonin boost when you work out.
(Score: 2) by HiThere on Saturday November 18 2017, @06:37PM (2 children)
Well, for me I know that it would have taken more than 9 months (1 school year I was on track team). These days (decades later) though it's actively painful.
Javascript is what you use to allow unknown third parties to run software you have no idea about on your computer.
(Score: 2) by t-3 on Saturday November 18 2017, @09:39PM (1 child)
I don't do any intentional cardio, I walk when it's necessary and don't bother otherwise. I keep my exercise to low impact calisthenics, pushups and squats etc, and 2x daily stretching, which is more than enough to have me in reasonable shape and feeling healthy and without pain when I do have to move around. Cardio is the reason people hate exercise, it always sucks. Bodyweight exercises can be done anywhere, anytime, require no financial or time investment, and aren't painful or difficult once you attain the base level of strength required to do a couple pushups.
(Score: 2) by HiThere on Sunday November 19 2017, @12:21AM
If you can do even one squat, your knees are in better shape than mine...and I'd recommend you check with a doctor or physical therapist to make sure you aren't injuring yourself. Squats are dangerous.
Javascript is what you use to allow unknown third parties to run software you have no idea about on your computer.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by bzipitidoo on Friday November 17 2017, @06:00PM (4 children)
The thinking on exercise bothers me. When did "exercise" become something that you had to work into your schedule? Used to be exercise was only something that those weird rich liberals from California did, while the rest of us labored on the farm. Now somehow this "getting your exercise" by doing frivolous and otherwise useless things, and even buying expensive and bulky items such as the exercise bike, has become mainstream, at least in the US. It's a triumph of commercialism.
I get most of my exercise doing useful things like housework. It's not as intense as a hard workout at a gym, but it sure saves a lot of money. Drives me crazy that the same family members who want a gym membership also want maid service.
(Score: 2) by Grishnakh on Friday November 17 2017, @06:09PM
I get most of my exercise doing useful things like housework.
Not everyone has a big house needing that much housework. And housework isn't really aerobic exercise, nor particularly strenuous. Proper exercise needs to get your heartbeat to an elevated level for an extended period of time to be effective.
The thinking on exercise bothers me. When did "exercise" become something that you had to work into your schedule? Used to be... It's a triumph of commercialism.
No, it's a triumph of automobile and suburban culture. Go to New York City sometime and spend a couple weeks there (it'll cost you; hotels are expensive). People there don't need that much exercise, because they're walking everywhere all the time, and consequently, you don't see any obese people there, at least in Manhattan. People need exercise now because they don't live on farms, and the extent of their physical activity is walking from the parking lot into a store. (And even here, they drive in circles to get the closest parking space they can.)
(Score: 2) by LoRdTAW on Friday November 17 2017, @06:35PM
You answered your own question. No one is laboring on farms unless they are low wage migrant workers. We created a more sedentary lifestyle thanks to the automobile, automation, offshoring, and desk jobs.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 17 2017, @07:38PM (1 child)
> buying expensive and bulky items such as the exercise bike
I have exercise bikes, but didn't have to buy them -- just kept my eyes open on trash day. Exercise equipment is thrown out on a regular basis in the suburbs. Must be the stuff of forgotten dreams (dreams of a flat stomach!)
(Score: 2) by LoRdTAW on Friday November 17 2017, @08:26PM
I think they wind up realizing they don't need as many coat racks taking up space in their homes.
Seriously though, most of the home exercise equipment industry is a scam. The only people who buy that shit are obese women. I have met only a handful of people who actually use their home equipment on a regular basis. Two are bodybuilders who have a simple weight set (one has a treadmill for winter running.) The other is my friend's mother who had a nordic track until it broke, then switched to a treadmill and a small weight set. Those people were serious about their exercise routines.
(Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Friday November 17 2017, @05:02PM (5 children)
How does one go about determining the overall percentage of a product that is sugar? Or is this all just educated guessing?
They sometimes mention that ingredients are "less than 2% of:" on labels but sweeteners rarely fall below that line. And anything else doesn't mention ratios other than the ordering.
"Is that really true?" "I just spent the last hour telling you to think for yourself! Didn't you hear anything I said?"
(Score: 2) by Grishnakh on Friday November 17 2017, @06:04PM
That one seems a bit odd to me too, but I guess you could just look at the nutrition info and count the grams of sugar, multiplied by number of portions per package, and divide by the net weight.
(Score: 2) by bzipitidoo on Friday November 17 2017, @06:11PM (1 child)
I multiply by 3 in my head. If the amount of sugar per serving * 3 is more than the serving size, then the product is more than 1/3 sugar.
(Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Friday November 17 2017, @07:35PM
This won't work for a great many foods that are packaged as individual serving pieces, though. If there's .5g of sugar in a muffin, it's more than 1/3 sugar? .5g * 3 = 1.5 > 1 muffin
"Is that really true?" "I just spent the last hour telling you to think for yourself! Didn't you hear anything I said?"
(Score: 2) by crafoo on Friday November 17 2017, @06:15PM (1 child)
Look at the ingredients list. If it has a refined sugar product in it do not buy it. Food does not need to have refined sweeteners added to it. Develop a taste for real food. Within a few months you will not be able to stomach the industrial byproducts that the food industry is passing off as "food".
(Score: 2) by FatPhil on Saturday November 18 2017, @10:30AM
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
(Score: 2) by nobu_the_bard on Friday November 17 2017, @06:44PM (1 child)
Interesting. First time I've heard that. Wonder if it's true. I've got quite bad acne that's left uncool scars all over my face. Never been able to do anything about it usefully. Most medicines have had no effect, or had such severe side effects that long term use wasn't practical. I probably drink 1-3 sodas a day, and a coffee with sugar, on top of other things.
I've wanted to cut back, but it's hard. I'm so used to soda. I've sworn the stuff of for periods each year for the past 2 years (1-2 months at a time) when I had stomach issues and had to cut nearly all acids out of my diet until I could recover, but I start craving it again really bad after about a month.
Part of this is somehow tea and water is just really boring to me. I haven't been able to find another drink that seems to suit.
(Score: 2) by bzipitidoo on Friday November 17 2017, @07:15PM
As I recall, it was an article I read years ago in Science News. The son of an ice cream shop owner grew up on ice cream and suffered from terrible acne. The article linked the problem not to the dairy, but to the sugar in the ice cream.
My own experience suggests it's true. Whenever I indulge in sweets, have myself a mini binge, like at Halloween, a few days later my face breaks out. My face completely clears up whenever I manage to entirely avoid sweets. Not easy to do, with sugar lurking in so many foods. Most of the time, I indulge a little, and have a little bit of acne.
Low or no sugar drinks, that aren't plain water? Tough one. What about soup or broth? One could drink broth.
(Score: 2) by crafoo on Friday November 17 2017, @06:12PM (4 children)
Losing the taste for sugar has amazing effects. Start with the drinks, move on to other foods in your diet.
Start looking at processed food labels. This includes everything that comes in a box or bag. Nearly everything has a refined sugar in it! It's incredible. The sugar industry is poisoning our food supply! OK, that's unfair. People asked for it. Over time, sweeter foods sold better so more foods had processed sugars added to them. Now we are awash in refined sugars. I wish we could put a bottle of ketchup from 1970 next to what we have today. One was a tomato-based condiment. The other is a sugar syrup that looks red.
It's a really big deal. Look at the change in the populace from 1970 to today. Watch old film footage. Look at class pictures. People were thin. Everyone was thin! Being really fat was unusual. Not now. Obese is the norm, which is a very dangerous thing.
(Score: 4, Interesting) by HiThere on Friday November 17 2017, @06:48PM (3 children)
While I agree that excess sugar is a major problem, and contributes significantly to the obesity epidemic, the proportion of obesity that you are comparing probably has more to do with changes in lifestyle. In the 1970's people were a lot more active. More of them were physically active on the job. And even minor changes can add up over time.
Consider children's games in the 1970's vs. now. That's a particularly visible change, but its hardly the only one.
Javascript is what you use to allow unknown third parties to run software you have no idea about on your computer.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by LoRdTAW on Friday November 17 2017, @09:19PM (2 children)
My generation, the last of gen x, are the last generation of children to grow up without excessive video games and cable/streaming TV. We rode bikes, played manhunt in parks and the neighborhood, climbed the abandoned LIIR elevated tracks, broke into abandoned factories and warehouses making them our secret urban forts (and almost getting arrested in the process), etc. Now to get kids out of the house, large video game companies have to go out of their way to design outdoor activities into their games such as Pokemon Go.
(Score: 4, Informative) by mhajicek on Saturday November 18 2017, @05:43AM (1 child)
These days if you let your kids play outside the neighbors call the cops, who are required by law to call CPS, who are required by law to do an investigation. I speak from experience.
The spacelike surfaces of time foliations can have a cusp at the surface of discontinuity. - P. Hajicek
(Score: 3, Interesting) by LoRdTAW on Saturday November 18 2017, @05:24PM
Sad. Really sad.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 17 2017, @10:07PM (2 children)
Apparently Colombian soda industry pulled a drug-cartel move to threaten a civic group's leader, but all the comments yack about sugar.
Self-centered bastards we are, pathetic society Colombia's is.
(Score: 3, Touché) by takyon on Friday November 17 2017, @11:35PM
But Dr. Cerón wants people discussing how bad sugar is.
[SIG] 10/28/2017: Soylent Upgrade v14 [soylentnews.org]
(Score: 2) by FatPhil on Saturday November 18 2017, @10:36AM
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves