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posted by martyb on Tuesday November 21 2017, @03:27AM   Printer-friendly
from the Ozzy's-Secret-Lab dept.

Over at Newsweek, Hannah Osborne is reporting - First Human Head Transplant Successfully Performed on Corpse, Sergio Canavero Announces — Key bits:

Scientists have carried out a head transplant on a human corpse, the neurosurgeon behind the operation has announced.

At a press conference in Vienna, Austria, Sergio Canavero said his team was able to remove the head from one body and connect it to the body of another by fusing the spine, nerves and blood vessels. He said the next step will be to carry out the operation on a living person, The Telegraph reports.

"The first human transplant on human cadavers has been done. A full head swap between brain dead organ donors is the next stage,” he said. "And that is the final step for the formal head transplant for a medical condition which is imminent.”

Canavero said a “high number” of people have volunteered to be his first head transplant patient. It is thought he will carry out the operation in China in December.

Because, of course, some of us are aware of the special dynamics of the intersection between Ethics, Journalism, and the Chinese government.

And then the next kicker to sufficiently anti-bait the click:

The Italian neurosurgeon did not present any evidence of his claims at the conference.

But, who knows what gruesome story we'll hear about in December.


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A breakthrough in restoring micro-circulation has allowed scientists to keep pig brains alive outside of a body:

In a step that could change the definition of death, researchers have restored circulation to the brains of decapitated pigs and kept the reanimated organs alive for as long as 36 hours.

The feat offers scientists a new way to study intact brains in the lab in stunning detail. But it also inaugurates a bizarre new possibility in life extension, should human brains ever be kept on life support outside the body.

The work was described on March 28 at a meeting held at the National Institutes of Health to investigate ethical issues arising as US neuroscience centers explore the limits of brain science.

During the event, Yale University neuroscientist Nenad Sestan disclosed that a team he leads had experimented on between 100 and 200 pig brains obtained from a slaughterhouse, restoring their circulation using a system of pumps, heaters, and bags of artificial blood warmed to body temperature. There was no evidence that the disembodied pig brains regained consciousness. However, in what Sestan termed a "mind-boggling" and "unexpected" result, billions of individual cells in the brains were found to be healthy and capable of normal activity.

It's possible that the level of function could be increased, and the brains could be kept alive indefinitely:

Sestan now says the organs produce a flat brain wave equivalent to a comatose state, although the tissue itself "looks surprisingly great" and, once it's dissected, the cells produce normal-seeming patterns.

The lack of wider electrical activity could be irreversible if it is due to damage and cell death. The pigs' brains were attached to the BrainEx device roughly four hours after the animals were decapitated.

However, it could also be due to chemicals the Yale team added to the blood replacement to prevent swelling, which also severely dampen the activity of neurons. "You have to understand that we have so many channel blockers in our solution," Sestan told the NIH. "This is probably the explanation why we don't get [any] signal."

Sestan told the NIH it is conceivable that the brains could be kept alive indefinitely and that steps could be attempted to restore awareness. He said his team had elected not to attempt either because "this is uncharted territory."

Next step: hooking it up to a computer?

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How Would You Define "A Successful Human Head Transplant"?


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  • (Score: 2) by legont on Tuesday November 21 2017, @03:42AM (2 children)

    by legont (4179) on Tuesday November 21 2017, @03:42AM (#599513)

    They used a somewhat bizarre technique in which two mice were sutured together in such as way that they shared a circulatory system (known as parabiosis), and found old mice joined to their youthful counterparts showed changes in gene activity in a brain region called the hippocampus as well as increased neural connections and enhanced “synaptic plasticity”—a mechanism believed to underlie learning and memory in which the strength of neural connections change in response to experience.

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/fountain-of-youth-young-blood-infusions-ldquo-rejuvenate-rdquo-old-mice/ [scientificamerican.com]

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    • (Score: 4, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 21 2017, @03:54AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 21 2017, @03:54AM (#599521)

      Is it more guesome than consuming babies blood?

      For sure, it didn't help Hillary.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 21 2017, @08:52AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 21 2017, @08:52AM (#599587)

        No, it doesn't help Peter Thiel, High Tech Advisor to the "Little Boots" (or "hands") Precedent of the Untitled States. Vampires. California.

        Grandpa: One thing about living in Santa Carla I never could stomach; all the damn vampires.

        Lost Boys, 1987. [imdb.com]

  • (Score: 1, Informative) by c0lo on Tuesday November 21 2017, @03:52AM (16 children)

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday November 21 2017, @03:52AM (#599519) Journal

    Warning: this post contains images that may be not unseeable.

    Do it with the agent Orange head grafted on the bitch's body... because the reverse is just too horrible [imgur.com] (Trump over Hillary may have chances to something remotely human, like Dolores Trumpbridge [imgur.com] or Donald Thatcher [imgur.com])

    (if this does not help the USian electorate start looking to elect third parties, nothing will)

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    • (Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Tuesday November 21 2017, @04:59AM (13 children)

      by MichaelDavidCrawford (2339) Subscriber Badge <mdcrawford@gmail.com> on Tuesday November 21 2017, @04:59AM (#599542) Homepage Journal

      "... even if you're joking." -- Clint Eastwood, "Line Of Fire"

      Some Kuro5hin member received a visit at his place of work by the secret service a few days after jokingly threatening a covered person.

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      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by MostCynical on Tuesday November 21 2017, @05:29AM (1 child)

        by MostCynical (2589) on Tuesday November 21 2017, @05:29AM (#599548) Journal

        whose president?

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        • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Tuesday November 21 2017, @12:30PM

          by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday November 21 2017, @12:30PM (#599613) Journal

          I bet is wasn't Lizzie.

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      • (Score: 3, Interesting) by c0lo on Tuesday November 21 2017, @12:37PM (10 children)

        by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday November 21 2017, @12:37PM (#599614) Journal

        Some Kuro5hin member received a visit at his place of work by the secret service a few days after jokingly threatening a covered person.

        Threatening?
        You mean... Photoshoping is now a threat? Are you really serious?

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        • (Score: 2) by takyon on Tuesday November 21 2017, @12:44PM (9 children)

          by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Tuesday November 21 2017, @12:44PM (#599615) Journal

          The Secret Service also investigates counterfeit bills... so that's possibly a second way they could get involved with someone's use of Photoshop.

          The Secret Service investigates cybercrimes [nytimes.com] (an antiquated mission of theirs)... so investigating Adobe getting hacked could be a loose #3 way they would respond to something Photoshop related.

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          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 21 2017, @12:56PM (2 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 21 2017, @12:56PM (#599618)

            The Secret Service also investigates counterfeit bills...

            At least Stasi investigated for seditious content.
            But yeah, I can understand that; in the land of the home, free of the brave, threatening finances is the highest treason.

            • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 21 2017, @04:43PM (1 child)

              by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 21 2017, @04:43PM (#599717)

              The Secret Service also investigates counterfeit bills...

              At least Stasi investigated for seditious content.
              But yeah, I can understand that; in the land of the home, free of the brave, threatening finances is the highest treason.

              Through an odd historical quirk, the Secret Service is actually under the Department of Treasury. That is most likely why it may be tasked with investigating counterfeit bills. Just so you know.

              • (Score: 2) by Zinho on Tuesday November 21 2017, @10:52PM

                by Zinho (759) on Tuesday November 21 2017, @10:52PM (#599931)

                Through an odd historical quirk, the Secret Service is actually under the Department of Treasury.

                Your information is out of date. According to the Secret Service website: [secretservice.gov]

                On March 1, 2003, the Secret Service was transferred to the new Department of Homeland Security. Recognized for the Secret Service's central role in the protection of both the nation's leaders and the financial and critical infrastructure of the United States, the Secret Service contributes to the Department of Homeland Security's common mission of protecting the American people from harm.

                They still are called on to investigate counterfeiting as a result of he historical quirk you mentioned, but no longer do so under the umbrella of the Dept. of Treasury.

                Of course, some Secret Service agents have gone on record saying that DHS is the wrong place for them, and they should go back to the Treasury... [vox.com]

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          • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Tuesday November 21 2017, @01:07PM (5 children)

            by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday November 21 2017, @01:07PM (#599619) Journal

            Cool. Photoshoping can bring the Secret Service, but owning, carrying and using an arsenal into a hotel room [wikipedia.org] is just a fact of everyday life.

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            • (Score: 2) by cubancigar11 on Tuesday November 21 2017, @02:16PM (4 children)

              by cubancigar11 (330) on Tuesday November 21 2017, @02:16PM (#599642) Homepage Journal

              It's simple. Law has force only on people who respect law. For example, if you start thinking that jail is just another hotel with bad service, law loses power.

              The unlawful don't read the law and then change their behavior, they expect law enforcers to catch them first. The lawful on the other hand are busy demanding tougher laws.

              The enforcers just want people to work and obey.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 21 2017, @02:35PM (2 children)

                by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 21 2017, @02:35PM (#599650)

                Yeah sure jail... because there is no penalty greater than that in socialist utopia. But in real world you get the fucking chair.

                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 21 2017, @03:14PM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 21 2017, @03:14PM (#599675)

                  If the guy's planning to off themselves anyway, it doesn't much matter does it?

                • (Score: 2) by cubancigar11 on Wednesday November 22 2017, @05:14PM

                  by cubancigar11 (330) on Wednesday November 22 2017, @05:14PM (#600255) Homepage Journal

                  All fine and dandy until you end up "getting the chair" for throwing a burnt cigarette on the footpath.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 21 2017, @06:08PM

                by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 21 2017, @06:08PM (#599758)

                how has this approach to justice affected your ability to enjoy a fine cuban cigar? I imagine that there are some ways to get one, and other ways to get one. but if you are not really clear on which way is the right way, in the end, you still may enjoy a fine cuban cigar, just with less details to cloud your smoke.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 21 2017, @07:32PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 21 2017, @07:32PM (#599804)

      "The Thing With Two Heads" (1972) but with Donald and Hilary.

      • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Tuesday November 21 2017, @09:03PM

        by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday November 21 2017, @09:03PM (#599878) Journal

        I'm missing this from my list - thanks for the reference, seems promising.

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  • (Score: 2) by takyon on Tuesday November 21 2017, @04:28AM (1 child)

    by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Tuesday November 21 2017, @04:28AM (#599530) Journal

    Two similar men. I'd rate Sergio over Roger Shawyer due to Shawyer's big claims about flying cars with squat to show for it, the inconclusivity of peer-reviewed EmDrive tests, and the lack of any physics barriers to reconnecting spines and nerves (it's just really hard, but maybe robot surgeons could help do it). Death and brain death is being shown to be more fluid than thought, but possibly breaking conservation of momentum is a tougher sell.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 21 2017, @04:42AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 21 2017, @04:42AM (#599540)
      photon pair exhaust (lots and lots and lots of very hard to see pairs perhaps)
  • (Score: 5, Funny) by bzipitidoo on Tuesday November 21 2017, @04:38AM (1 child)

    by bzipitidoo (4388) on Tuesday November 21 2017, @04:38AM (#599535) Journal

    Head transplants, in fantasy D&D: http://www.blindpanic.com/humor/vecna.htm [blindpanic.com]

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 21 2017, @07:56AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 21 2017, @07:56AM (#599575)

      For some reason, it does not strike me as beyond the realm of possibility that potential head transplant recipients would fight amongst themselves to see who has the honor of being recorded in the history books as the first, with similar results.

  • (Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Tuesday November 21 2017, @04:39AM

    by MichaelDavidCrawford (2339) Subscriber Badge <mdcrawford@gmail.com> on Tuesday November 21 2017, @04:39AM (#599536) Homepage Journal

    That's not nearly enough.

    FWIW a friend of mine kicked cocaine as a result of dissecting cadavers during her premed studies.

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  • (Score: 2) by MostCynical on Tuesday November 21 2017, @05:31AM

    by MostCynical (2589) on Tuesday November 21 2017, @05:31AM (#599549) Journal

    it didn't fall off when we moved the body!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdIwe46XizY [youtube.com]

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  • (Score: 4, Funny) by maxwell demon on Tuesday November 21 2017, @06:01AM (1 child)

    by maxwell demon (1608) on Tuesday November 21 2017, @06:01AM (#599558) Journal

    How Would You Define "A Successful Human Head Transplant"?

    A successful human head transplant means transplanting the head of a successful human.

    But, who knows what gruesome story we'll hear about in December.

    He applied electricity to the body consisting of different corpse parts, and it now is alive.

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    • (Score: 4, Funny) by inertnet on Tuesday November 21 2017, @09:17AM

      by inertnet (4071) on Tuesday November 21 2017, @09:17AM (#599589) Journal

      The locals aren't happy about it, they're shouting outside with torches and pitchforks.

      I guess that's a success then.

  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by acid andy on Tuesday November 21 2017, @09:37AM (2 children)

    by acid andy (1683) on Tuesday November 21 2017, @09:37AM (#599593) Homepage Journal

    Clearly, it's a body transplant! If you have a liver transplant, that means someone else's liver was grafted into your body. So, if you have a head transplant, that means someone else's head was...

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 21 2017, @01:44PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 21 2017, @01:44PM (#599635)

      If you have a body transplant, someone else's body was grafted into your body?

      • (Score: 1) by MindEscapes on Tuesday November 21 2017, @02:22PM

        by MindEscapes (6751) on Tuesday November 21 2017, @02:22PM (#599646) Homepage

        Yes, if we maintain that who a person is, resides within their mental being. The thing being donated is the body to which it will be attached. This is a body transplant. The person we expect it to be after the transplant is not whom donated the body.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 21 2017, @02:25PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 21 2017, @02:25PM (#599648)

    Swapping (not just adding a head) everything from the neck down such that the head (brain + eyes + ears + touch) is capable of rational thought and function for an indefinite period after the operation.

    Keeping the body/organs functioning so that the chemical balance is good enough for a working, sane brain is a pretty high bar.
    Having the head control the body seems a secondary step.

    Pretty gruesome stuff.
    Even assuming a suitable, brain dead donor, hopefully the ethics for do-no-harm would make this unlikely for a long, long time to come.

    Can we ask nicer question here please?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 21 2017, @03:30PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 21 2017, @03:30PM (#599689)

      When I can buy a new body that will look good on Venice Beach (LA), then the technology will be perfected.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 21 2017, @03:38PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 21 2017, @03:38PM (#599696)

      A functioning set of organs, but paralyzed would be bare minimum as the recipient would be technically alive for a period, but if they can't get the nervous system hooked up, I see little point other than as a stepping stone.

  • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Tuesday November 21 2017, @04:29PM (1 child)

    by Freeman (732) on Tuesday November 21 2017, @04:29PM (#599709) Journal

    Assuming we could do a body transplant, it may be just as easy for us to use cybernetics. Assuming, you could successfully do a body transplant that would be major trauma every time you do it. Whereas, if you had a cybernetic body, you could "easily" upgrade to the latest model. I have a feeling that even done perfectly, neither approach would significantly increase your life span. You'd still have your original head / brain / spinal cord and they have their own expiration date. You'd have to figure out a way to keep your body from self-destructing in order to increase your life span. Assuming you can do that, why go through the trouble of a body transplant?

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    • (Score: 2, Insightful) by tftp on Tuesday November 21 2017, @08:13PM

      by tftp (806) on Tuesday November 21 2017, @08:13PM (#599845) Homepage
      Life span is not a factor if a transplant is made to save an injured person, not an old one who seeks immortality.
  • (Score: 1) by jman on Wednesday November 22 2017, @03:23AM

    by jman (6085) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday November 22 2017, @03:23AM (#600027) Homepage
    Mostly anything that does not involve Rosey Grier [imdb.com] and Ray Milland [wikipedia.org] working together...
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