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posted by martyb on Wednesday November 22 2017, @12:15AM   Printer-friendly
from the roadrange++ dept.

Finer grained battery discharge boosts range:

Nissan Leafs, which go about 107 miles on a charge, sometimes end up relegated to commuter cars due to battery-life worries. The mass-market, standard Tesla Model 3 can go double that, but even that distance can be disconcerting on long road trips.

Both batteries could work about 50 percent longer with a device provisionally patented by Vanderbilt University's Ken Pence, professor of the practice of engineering management, and Tim Potteiger, a Ph.D. student in electrical engineering. It reconfigures modules in electric car battery packs to be online or offline—depending on whether they're going to pull down the other modules.

The two used Tesla's open-source, high-density, lithium-ion battery to model their method of improving durability, adding a controller to each of the battery's cells.

"We know there are some battery cells that run out of juice earlier than others, and when they do, the others run less efficiently," Potteiger said. "We make sure they all run out of energy at the same time, and there's none left over."

Is a 50% boost in range worth the expense of the extra controllers?


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  • (Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Wednesday November 22 2017, @12:39AM (1 child)

    by MichaelDavidCrawford (2339) Subscriber Badge <mdcrawford@gmail.com> on Wednesday November 22 2017, @12:39AM (#599983) Homepage Journal

    My Early 2006' MacBook Pro's battery had a microcontroller.

    Replace batteries were $100.

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    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 22 2017, @12:47AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 22 2017, @12:47AM (#599985)

      The controllers cost pennies. The cost to license the patent, who knows.

  • (Score: 1) by Booga1 on Wednesday November 22 2017, @12:57AM (1 child)

    by Booga1 (6333) on Wednesday November 22 2017, @12:57AM (#599988)

    If this also increases the usable amount of electricity extracted per charge that would normally be lost, it'll probably pay for itself pretty quickly.
    Plus a 50% bump in range would make the cars feasible for a lot more people.

    • (Score: 4, Interesting) by FatPhil on Wednesday November 22 2017, @09:57AM

      by FatPhil (863) <reversethis-{if.fdsa} {ta} {tnelyos-cp}> on Wednesday November 22 2017, @09:57AM (#600123) Homepage
      Looks like it won't provide a 50% bump in range for most of the life of the battery. The problem they're solving is:
      "they commonly show empty with 10 percent or more power left", so, commonly, they'll only be able to provide a 10% range boost. As the batteries age, more cells become crap, and currently hinder operation of the remaining cells, so the use of this tech really kicks in once the rot has started to kick in. And as an added bonus, it seems to extend the usable life of the battery too. Batteries are currently pretty poor energy store, compared to dino juice, so let's hope this does deliver what it promises, they need all the help they can get.
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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by jmorris on Wednesday November 22 2017, @01:24AM (2 children)

    by jmorris (4844) on Wednesday November 22 2017, @01:24AM (#599996)

    As usual with mandatory "battery life problems solved" articles, the snake oil content is high. Doesn't look like you actually get improved range, what you DO get is improved battery service life and that is a good thing. You get the "up to" 50% better range on aged batteries so since a battery is usually declared defunct at the 50% of original life point, at what would normally be the end of service life you could still be getting 75% of rated range. That is nice and almost certainly justifies the additional electronics. Whether it will justify licensing the patent is something we will need to see.

    • (Score: 3, Funny) by bob_super on Wednesday November 22 2017, @01:42AM (1 child)

      by bob_super (1357) on Wednesday November 22 2017, @01:42AM (#600004)

      Just put a DC/DC converter on each cell to go around any patent. If you really gain 50%, you can sacrifice 5%.

      • (Score: 4, Informative) by anubi on Wednesday November 22 2017, @03:43AM

        by anubi (2828) on Wednesday November 22 2017, @03:43AM (#600030) Journal

        "Charge balancers" are a pretty mature technology.

        I just gave you the Google keyword. Do your own research from there if you are so inclined.

        While I could see a *particular* design being covered with a design patent for that specific implementation, its hard for me to imagine anyone getting nailed for building their own custom device.

        There are many off-the-shelf IC's just for this.

        Or you can "roll your own" if you want.

        One of the designs I did with Solar was a flyback design, knowing full good and well a multi-secondary flyback transformer ( identical turns count secondaries ) will try to set equal voltages on all secondary windings. So, drive the primary off the full stack, and use lots of secondary windings to equalize the voltage at all levels of the stack.

        BTW, nothing said I have to use ONE magnetic core.... I can use many.... with the primaries of all in series so as to force equal excitation current so variances in core material and construction would drop out. That way I could make devices with hundreds of taps for hundreds of cells in series.

        Mine were in groups of six. For mechanical layout convenience. Fourteen of 'em. About a 300V stack of 3.6V Lithium. Your designs may vary by your own needs. Nothing says you have to use magnetic energy transfer. Some people use capacitors to do it.

        It was easy for me to monitor cell health with little current transformers that saw the charge pulse. Cheap and accurate. They did not measure DC; just the charge pulse.

        We monitored cell voltages for safety purposes, but the physics of the magnetic design would pretty much guarantee that the lowest voltages got the lion's share of the energy from the transformer, while the higher-voltage cells kept their flyback charge diode reversed "off" - so that battery voltage / Ncells was a pretty accurate representation of the voltage across each cell unless we were showing significant pulse strength imbalances among the secondary windings.

        Being the balancer was microprocessor controlled, it was quite easy to optimize the primary drive for the amount of energy we needed to transfer based on the imbalances we were reading, along with keeping a C++ struct array filled with the strength of the pulse from each current transformer.

        The weakest cells got help. The strongest cells subsidized them, until the whole stack was depleted.

        I have also seen a lot of capacitive charge-pump based balancers.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 22 2017, @08:04AM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 22 2017, @08:04AM (#600098)

    "Source" in Open Source refers to source code.
    There is no source code in this notion.
    This attempt to glom on to the growing popularity of the term is stupid.

    Appropriate terms: open hardware; open design.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 22 2017, @09:03AM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 22 2017, @09:03AM (#600113)

      Source code is a file or set of files that can be used to produce a working instance using an appropriate compilation procedure.

      Therefore when not being too pedantic, sufficiently detailed building instructions can well be considered source code.

      • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Wednesday November 22 2017, @10:17AM (1 child)

        by FatPhil (863) <reversethis-{if.fdsa} {ta} {tnelyos-cp}> on Wednesday November 22 2017, @10:17AM (#600125) Homepage
        Whilst your argument has merit and historical precedent, for example in anti-DeCSS arguments source code was often likened to a recipe (despite food not being the output), do you not agree that the usage above did jar, and that a better term could have beem used - in fact simply dropping the term, as without extra context it adds nothing of relevance, would have been better. If there was something about the open nature of the batteries' specs that aided them in their work, then that fact should have been given an entire extra sentence, as it's a separate thought.
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        • (Score: 2) by SunTzuWarmaster on Wednesday November 22 2017, @03:41PM

          by SunTzuWarmaster (3971) on Wednesday November 22 2017, @03:41PM (#600193)

          But here's the rub - the other words already mean something. "Open Hardware" doesn't mean "publicly available blueprints" - it means "can be freely modified". "Open Design" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_design) means that BOTH the hardware and Software are open - which is most definitely NOT the case with Tesla (software is still closed-source). The "Open Hardware" page redirects to the "Open Source Hardware" page.

          Probably the best term is FOSH (Free and Open Source Hardware), but the term doesn't mean anything if people don't know what it means. The OSS term is still not particularly recognized by a novice engineer. "Open Source" is currently the best and most efficient term to describe "free and publicly available blueprints which are relatively unencumbered by royalties or patent provisions".

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