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posted by Fnord666 on Friday November 24 2017, @02:17PM   Printer-friendly
from the what-about-moonshine dept.

Spirits may make you feel angry, sexy or tearful, while red wine or beer may make you feel relaxed, say researchers.

They questioned nearly 30,000 people aged 18-34 from 21 different countries for the study in the journal BMJ Open.

All the respondents drank beer, wine and spirits, and many said each type of alcohol had a different effect on them.

While having a few drinks can be enjoyable, researchers hope their findings will help highlight the dangers of dependent drinking.

We have to discuss this, if only because it may explain Ethanol-Fueled's posts.


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  • (Score: 1) by Revek on Friday November 24 2017, @02:53PM (1 child)

    by Revek (5022) on Friday November 24 2017, @02:53PM (#601043)

    I just feel like sharing.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 24 2017, @08:21PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 24 2017, @08:21PM (#601133)

      Beans beans the magical fruit
      The more you eat the more you sound like Ethanol Fueled

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 24 2017, @02:57PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 24 2017, @02:57PM (#601046)

    People have been blaming tequilla for ages after pulling embarrasing shit.

    • (Score: 1) by Ethanol-fueled on Friday November 24 2017, @08:44PM

      by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Friday November 24 2017, @08:44PM (#601141) Homepage

      That's why they call it "te-quill-ya." Though the temperament of Mexicans has a lot more to do with it than Tequila does.

      In case you are all curious, my trusty workhorse is Gallo Sauvignon Blanc. It's not fizzy and bloaty like beer, it's not rotgut like liquor is, and it has a decent strength. When I do drink beer, though, my trusty workhorse is Stone IPA or whatever single/double IPAs I can get my grubby paws on.

      When I'm at live shows and I need to get trashed on the quick, I shoot Jagermeister. That comes as a surprise to even me because I hate licorice and other herbey flavors, but Jager is pretty mellow on the throat without requiring a chaser.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 24 2017, @03:10PM (6 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 24 2017, @03:10PM (#601047)

    Per tradition I didn't read TFA, but it sounds like it found that people believe different alcoholic drinks have different effects on them, and that these perceptions are shared across 21 countries.

    • (Score: 2) by realDonaldTrump on Friday November 24 2017, @03:21PM

      by realDonaldTrump (6614) on Friday November 24 2017, @03:21PM (#601052) Homepage Journal

      Wasn't there a thing, so long ago, where they gave people cocktails, and everybody got a little drunk? But there was no alcohol, it was a mocktail, a fake cocktail like a Roy Rogers or a Shirley Temple. So interesting!

    • (Score: 5, Informative) by Hawkwind on Friday November 24 2017, @04:44PM (2 children)

      by Hawkwind (3531) on Friday November 24 2017, @04:44PM (#601072)
      The Ars version of the story had a good run-down of the issues with the study.

      The study has a lot of limitations. It’s an observational study based on self-reported data. There’s nothing to say that alcohol causes these emotions, just that these respondents think they do. There are confounding issues of recall bias, what activities people are doing while drinking certain drinks, whether they mix alcohols, and what moods they are in when they start drinking certain drinks.

      https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/11/heres-how-to-emotionally-manipulate-your-family-with-alcohol-this-holiday/ [arstechnica.com]

      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by crafoo on Friday November 24 2017, @05:22PM (1 child)

        by crafoo (6639) on Friday November 24 2017, @05:22PM (#601082)

        Observational study .. . self reported data. So bullshit. Just say bullshit.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 24 2017, @07:25PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 24 2017, @07:25PM (#601116)

          yeah i thought it was just a joke article for the holidays.

          its like the sort of alcohol advice you'd read in cosmo; i expected a mood brightener to include seltzer water and white wine with a lemon wedge to make it cheery and non-apathetic

          instead it was presented as a serious list of self-reported effects based on the type of two buck chuck and 5 gallon bags of wine in a box people had before getting a headache and invalidating the results.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 24 2017, @06:41PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 24 2017, @06:41PM (#601100)

      Whiskey's too rough,
      Champaigne costs to much,
      and Vodka puts my mouth in gear,

      https://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/tomthall/ilikebeer.html [azlyrics.com]
      That's, Tom T. Hall, 1975

      • (Score: 3, Touché) by isostatic on Friday November 24 2017, @06:59PM

        by isostatic (365) on Friday November 24 2017, @06:59PM (#601108) Journal

        Whiskey's too rough

        Quite Agree. That's why you should drink Whisky.

  • (Score: 5, Funny) by Aiwendil on Friday November 24 2017, @03:14PM (16 children)

    by Aiwendil (531) on Friday November 24 2017, @03:14PM (#601049) Journal

    Yeah, different types of alcohol sure determines the mood.. I have yet to see people being as panicky about reaching the hospital after a few drinks as most people get when the accidently drink methanol.

    Oh, you meant different types of alcoholic beverages..

    (yup, tounge in cheek again)

    • (Score: 2) by inertnet on Friday November 24 2017, @05:31PM (1 child)

      by inertnet (4071) on Friday November 24 2017, @05:31PM (#601084) Journal

      I thought they meant the difference between the first, second, third, ..., last drink. The first few drinks can make you happy, while the last drink usually makes you sick.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 24 2017, @06:43PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 24 2017, @06:43PM (#601101)

        Soooo, never stop drinking and you'll be fine?

    • (Score: 2, Troll) by aristarchus on Friday November 24 2017, @06:35PM (11 children)

      by aristarchus (2645) on Friday November 24 2017, @06:35PM (#601099) Journal

      Very different effects when I drink the Isopropyl alcohol, instead of rubbing it. Are we not all scientists here, except for the Neo-nazis, MRAers, Red Pillars, AGW Deniers, and khallow? This kind of imprecision in terminology can be fatal, or at least make you go blind.

      • (Score: 2) by Aiwendil on Friday November 24 2017, @07:32PM (3 children)

        by Aiwendil (531) on Friday November 24 2017, @07:32PM (#601121) Journal

        Too bad you needed to add the middle sentence since isopropyl is one of the few alcohols that actually would have been interesting to discuss.

        But also - this kind of imprecision actually does kill at times.

        • (Score: 1, Troll) by aristarchus on Friday November 24 2017, @08:33PM (2 children)

          by aristarchus (2645) on Friday November 24 2017, @08:33PM (#601138) Journal

          Oh, we can still discuss. Just be aware that not all soylentils have something to contribute to a discussion based on facts.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 24 2017, @10:33PM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 24 2017, @10:33PM (#601164)

            that not all soylentils have something to contribute to a discussion based on facts.

            What facts? Those are cherry picking, self-reported by the scum-of-the-Earth non-scientists and manipulated by statistics to look like hockey-sticks. All of them.

            • (Score: 1, Troll) by aristarchus on Friday November 24 2017, @11:07PM

              by aristarchus (2645) on Friday November 24 2017, @11:07PM (#601170) Journal

              What facts?

              Primarily the fact that there are various types of alcohols, but this is not what the Fine Article is talking about.

              Those are cherry picking,

              Wasn't referring to whatever it is you are referring to here.

              self-reported by the scum-of-the-Earth non-scientists

              You have something against those who imbibe? Are you a Mormon, or a Prohibitionist?

              and manipulated by statistics to look like hockey-sticks.

              Statistics do not manipulate, statistics are manipulated. I really am starting to realize that you are not making sense.

              All of them.

              All of whom? Alcohols? Facts? Scums-o-Earths? Drinkers? Or Hockey sticks? See, this is why we cannot have nice discussions.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 24 2017, @08:24PM (3 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 24 2017, @08:24PM (#601135)

        I'm all for fighting the good fight against trolls and hypocrites, but you're just being an asshole recently.

        • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 24 2017, @08:46PM (2 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 24 2017, @08:46PM (#601143)

          Different types of AC can provoke different posts. Which are you? Men's rights advocate? Climate denier? Racist? Gamergater? Trump voter? How much methanol have you consumed recently? Do you have any Arachidic alcohol on your face?

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 25 2017, @04:45AM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 25 2017, @04:45AM (#601249)

            Didn't think you were such an easily triggered idiot though ;)

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 25 2017, @06:18AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 25 2017, @06:18AM (#601276)

              Hint: he seems to oppose me, off with his head!

      • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 25 2017, @10:32AM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 25 2017, @10:32AM (#601340)

        So, who is it that consistently mods Aristarchus troll posts up? This ^ is a troll post. He names one person specifically, and uses generalities to include a number of other people, implying that they are stupid. Troll. Whoever mods him up has to be the troll's bitch.

        In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting quarrels or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[2] or of otherwise disrupting normal, on-topic discussion,[3] often for the troll's amusement.
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll [wikipedia.org]

        • (Score: 1, Troll) by aristarchus on Saturday November 25 2017, @07:11PM

          by aristarchus (2645) on Saturday November 25 2017, @07:11PM (#601461) Journal

          He names one person specifically, and uses generalities to include a number of other people, implying that they are stupid.

          Oh, come now, my rather thin-skinned AC! I was not implying they are stupid, I was categorically asserting they are factually challenged, which, in your interpretation, means they are stupid. And, if the generality fits, wear it. Stupid AC!

          khallow I am not sure about, however. He is intermittently rational enough to make me think he is pulling one over on us, or is being paid by Big Oil.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 25 2017, @10:56AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 25 2017, @10:56AM (#601343)

        troll smiley

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 24 2017, @06:56PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 24 2017, @06:56PM (#601107)

      Different types of weed have different effects too.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 25 2017, @10:35AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 25 2017, @10:35AM (#601341)

        So, do you prefer the oregano, the ragweed, dandelions, or something else?

  • (Score: 2) by cykros on Saturday November 25 2017, @03:09PM

    by cykros (989) on Saturday November 25 2017, @03:09PM (#601398)

    If you're going to test this, you really need to account for the rate at which the alcohol is consumed. Comparing the effects of a beer that is being sipped over 20 minutes to a 3 oz brandy highball that is gulped back in 1 are obviously going to yield different results, but it isn't a matter off the chemicals working differently. I absolutely don't doubt that people get different effects from different spirits, but then, people tend to sip a good whiskey over quite some time, while they drink clearer liquors often in a faster manner, either in shot form or mixed with a bunch of other ingredients that make it go down fast and smooth. The end result is that perhaps rum might make a person angry drunk when they drink it, despite the fact that ethanol is ethanol and it all works the same (at least, when the method of intake is also the same).

  • (Score: 2) by cykros on Saturday November 25 2017, @03:15PM

    by cykros (989) on Saturday November 25 2017, @03:15PM (#601399)
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