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posted by Fnord666 on Monday December 11 2017, @01:39AM   Printer-friendly
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Pentagon Announces First-Ever Audit Of The Department Of Defense

"The Defense Department is starting the first agency-wide financial audit in its history," the Pentagon's news service says, announcing that it's undertaking an immense task that has been sought, promised and delayed for years.

Of the tally that is starting this week, chief Pentagon spokesperson Dana W. White said, "It demonstrates our commitment to fiscal responsibility and maximizing the value of every taxpayer dollar that is entrusted to us."

"Beginning in 2018, our audits will occur annually, with reports issued Nov. 15," the Defense Department's comptroller, David L. Norquist, said.

The Defense Department has famously never been audited, despite receiving hundreds of billions of dollars annually and having more than $2.2 trillion in assets.


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  • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 11 2017, @01:47AM (10 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 11 2017, @01:47AM (#608142)

    "Pentagon" refers to the building but is also the nick name for DoD.

    • (Score: 0, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 11 2017, @01:54AM (8 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 11 2017, @01:54AM (#608145)

      So it's an audit, usually considered a good thing. This is what happens when you elect a businessman over a bureaucrat.

      • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 11 2017, @02:28AM (3 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 11 2017, @02:28AM (#608156)

        > ...what happens when you elect a businessman over a bureaucrat.

        The fine article does not support your opinion:

        For the Pentagon to get to this point, it has been, as they say, a process. The U.S. government established requirements for each agency to present financial statements back in the 1990s. But for more than 20 years, the Department of Defense has lagged other agencies that were following modern accounting standards, reporting what they received and spent.

        In 2010, Congress included a requirement in the National Defense Authorization Act that gave the military "an extra seven years to clean up the books and get ready," as Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa said last year. That set a new deadline to be ready for an audit by September 2017.

        No mention of that orange guy until the end of tfa,

        The Pentagon audit would deliver on a campaign pledge by Trump. He was one of several candidates, including Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton and Republican Sen. Ted Cruz, to make that promise — perhaps in the knowledge that the audit had already been federally mandated.

        • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 11 2017, @02:42AM (2 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 11 2017, @02:42AM (#608165)

          including Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton and Republican Sen. Ted Cruz

          including Democratic nominee geriatric criminal and Republican Sen. Ted Cruz robot human like guy.

          If you are going to go insulting go all in. FFS...

          • (Score: 4, Insightful) by GreatAuntAnesthesia on Monday December 11 2017, @09:54AM (1 child)

            by GreatAuntAnesthesia (3275) on Monday December 11 2017, @09:54AM (#608236) Journal

            You call that insulting? "That orange guy"?

            Compared to all the things one COULD call Donald Trump, I'd say referring to him as "that orange guy" is practically dripping with praise.

            • (Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 11 2017, @03:23PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 11 2017, @03:23PM (#608282)

              Poster was just trying to find a way to call hillary a crook one more time.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 11 2017, @02:58AM (3 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 11 2017, @02:58AM (#608169)

        Augean Stables.

        • (Score: 5, Funny) by c0lo on Monday December 11 2017, @01:30PM (2 children)

          by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Monday December 11 2017, @01:30PM (#608262) Journal

          Augean Stables.

          Don't kid yourself, nobody spoke about cleaning them.
          It's an audit only, they'll just attempt to measure the depth of the horseshit heaps; it may turn out there are some gigantic black holes underneath, which will suck up the auditors, never to be heard of them again.

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          • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 11 2017, @04:14PM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 11 2017, @04:14PM (#608298)

            You're right. They won't clean them. They'll just re-arrange them and rename them.

            • (Score: 3, Insightful) by bob_super on Monday December 11 2017, @07:04PM

              by bob_super (1357) on Monday December 11 2017, @07:04PM (#608386)

              They'll just ask the NSA for the proper way to redefine "compliance" and "assets".

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 11 2017, @02:28AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 11 2017, @02:28AM (#608157)

      Odd way to poo it

      FTFY

  • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 11 2017, @01:52AM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 11 2017, @01:52AM (#608144)

    The audit passed.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 11 2017, @08:36AM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 11 2017, @08:36AM (#608225)

      No, you're misinformed.

      The audit failed, and because of this The President has decided to simply shutter the whole shop - "You're all fired!". All employees will be discharged in an accelerated process (it was discovered that there actually are no funds left to fly them all back to the US) and most of the 137,451 officials will be indicted for various financial and RICOH crimes.

      Trials are expected to take years. A replacement organization is not yet planned, at least not until the now-discovered shortcomings have been analyzed throughly.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 11 2017, @05:19PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 11 2017, @05:19PM (#608335)

        I presume you mean the audit team will be fired. That's the most likely outcome under this president. Audit team fired, new 3 letter spy agency created that reports only to the president "to ensure proper use of funding". Oops looks like we're already getting on of those.

        https://trofire.com/2017/12/05/trump-wants-create-private-spy-agency-spy-us-intelligence-agencies/ [trofire.com]

        Trump Wants To Create Private Spy Agency To Spy On US Intelligence Agencies
        By Farron Cousins -
        December 5, 2017

        In one of the more bizarre and paranoid actions taken by the Trump Administration, Donald Trump is mulling whether or not to allow Blackwater founder Erik Prince and former Iran-Contra architect Oliver North create a secret spy agency that will be tasked with spying on US intelligence agencies. This is not normal, and it seems fairly illegal, as Ring of Fire’s Farron Cousins points out.

        • (Score: 2) by bob_super on Monday December 11 2017, @06:35PM

          by bob_super (1357) on Monday December 11 2017, @06:35PM (#608373)

          The guys at the Onion are jealous they didn't write it first.

  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 11 2017, @02:25AM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 11 2017, @02:25AM (#608153)

    September 10th 2001 Secretary of Defense of the USA declared war on the Pentagon bureaucracy over an alleged $2.3 trillion in unaccounted for funds on expenses.
    Obviously this kinda got forgotten...

  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by khallow on Monday December 11 2017, @04:32AM (5 children)

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday December 11 2017, @04:32AM (#608190) Journal
    Now that the DoD has sophisticated auditing procedures in place we should get a better handle on the screws, toilet seats, and hammers that make up the procurement side of the military. But we shouldn't expect miracles. Some minor items, like $400 billion jet fighter programs, will probably still fly under the radar even with this new process.
    • (Score: 5, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 11 2017, @04:52AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 11 2017, @04:52AM (#608196)

      For $400b they'd better be able to fly under the radar.

    • (Score: 2) by bradley13 on Monday December 11 2017, @06:42AM (2 children)

      by bradley13 (3053) on Monday December 11 2017, @06:42AM (#608214) Homepage Journal

      Erf, yes, well... I'm all for government transparency, but I wish these facile examples of waste would just die. They essentially all stem from the same source: Takes some contract for, say, 3 airplanes and 5 replacement toilet seats. Total cost $X billion, with allowed overhead expenses of $Y million. Take a lazy accountant who divides the overhead evenly across all articles in the contract. Voila: You now have some really expensive toilet seats.

      There's plenty of waste out there. Tossing out examples like this is counterproductive though: You allow the projects to say "look no expensive toilet seats", and they're off the hook. The fact that they have a staff of 200 when they need a staff of 20, the fact that they've issued cost-plus contracts instead of negotiating fixed-price contracts - that's all too difficult to deal with. But, nope, no toilet seats.

      --
      Everyone is somebody else's weirdo.
      • (Score: 1) by khallow on Monday December 11 2017, @07:19AM (1 child)

        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday December 11 2017, @07:19AM (#608217) Journal
        Or maybe the toilet seat budget is paying for the photocopying budget on some black op or spy satellite project. Aside from the direct corruption, I figure the black budget (or rather, lazy accounting involving the black budget, to go with your theme) is the main other reason why it's taken so long for them to come up with any sort of high level auditing.
        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 11 2017, @11:28PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 11 2017, @11:28PM (#608531)

          Parent has the nugget in this (meta)thread.

          ...and anyone who thinks it was lone nut with a crappy Italian surplus rifle Lee Harvey Oswald [google.com] who murdered JFK is simply naive.

          -- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]

  • (Score: 3, Funny) by aristarchus on Monday December 11 2017, @04:43AM (2 children)

    by aristarchus (2645) on Monday December 11 2017, @04:43AM (#608195) Journal

    You know what this means? Audit? Ethanol_fueled will be forced to find a real job! And in the mean time, while he is soaking in that wonderful Socialist Republic of Californication Unemployment Insurance, we will have to put up with his crap even more than currently! Will no one think of the children? Or of the innocent Soylentils that will be harmed by this audit?

    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Monday December 11 2017, @07:25AM (1 child)

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday December 11 2017, @07:25AM (#608218) Journal
      Given that you could potentially be E-F as well, it could also mean more posts by you. That's dire portents indeed! I must retire to my fainting couch.
      • (Score: 3, Informative) by aristarchus on Monday December 11 2017, @07:39AM

        by aristarchus (2645) on Monday December 11 2017, @07:39AM (#608221) Journal

        No, no need, my dear fluffy khallow! You are paid by the Department of Agriculture, also know as the Department of the Interior, blessings be upon Zinke and his transportation expense account! So I am not worried about you! Well, I am worried about your mental health and level of education, but at least you will not be homeless and living in a thermal spring, well, at least not until the Republican tax bill passes. Glad to have known you, khallow! As Ronald Reagan said, there a tons of ads for jobs in the newspapers, like for exotic dancers in Vegas, right in your neighborhood, khallow! Work on those abs, my boy!

        And, oh, for those of you keeping score, aristarchus could be khallow, because khallow is just too ideologically correct to actually be real. Aristarchus, on the other hand, is a 2353 year old Samian Greek. So there is that.

  • (Score: 5, Touché) by bradley13 on Monday December 11 2017, @06:38AM (3 children)

    by bradley13 (3053) on Monday December 11 2017, @06:38AM (#608213) Homepage Journal

    Shameful, really.

    The entire government should be required to follow precisely the same rules as every company. If companies manage to file a full set of audited accounts every year, with updates every quarter, the government should do the same. If some rules are just too onerous to be useful, well...guess what, maybe they shouldn't exist. Otherwise, the rules are there to provide transparency: These accounts should be public - it's taxpayer money, after all.

    --
    Everyone is somebody else's weirdo.
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 11 2017, @12:34PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 11 2017, @12:34PM (#608256)

      In Soviet Russia the dod audits you!

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 11 2017, @02:20PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 11 2017, @02:20PM (#608268)

      "The entire government should be required to follow precisely the same rules as every company."

      Might want to be careful of what you wish for, as wishes love to twist and distort themselves.

      If you got what you wanted, odds are it'd be in the form of most of the rules companies following being revoked.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 12 2017, @12:46AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 12 2017, @12:46AM (#608562)

      "required to follow precisely the same rules as every company".

      They do.

      Or weren't you around for the 2008 bank fraud epidemic that tanked the world economy, with no criminal charges ever brought?

  • (Score: 4, Informative) by Thexalon on Monday December 11 2017, @04:41PM

    by Thexalon (636) on Monday December 11 2017, @04:41PM (#608317)

    There was an audit about a year ago by the Inspector General's office for the DoD, that revealed $6.5 trillion worth of accounting problems [warisboring.com]. So the idea that this is somehow unprecedented is just plain wrong.

    That there's something very rotten in Pentagon spending, though, doesn't require any kind of accounting audit. One of the first places to look at is the shareholder reports of the major defense contractors, and realize that every single dollar of reported profits is coming out of the federal budget.

    --
    The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
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