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posted by CoolHand on Thursday January 11, @07:05PM   Printer-friendly
from the Barcelona_uber_Munich dept.

The City of Barcelona kicks out Microsoft in favor of Linux and open source. The Barcelona city administration will migrate its existing systems from Microsoft and proprietary software to Linux and Free and Open Source Software. First the user applications will be upgraded to FOSS. Once all proprietary applications are removed, the proprietary operating systems will be removed. Around 70% of the software budget will be invested in FOSS with the goal being to help local talent through regional small and medium-sized businesses. Additionally, 65 developers will be brought in and kept in-house to work on custom packages and other customization needs.


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  • (Score: 0, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 11, @07:08PM (20 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 11, @07:08PM (#621040)

    ... will try to use "Open Source" software, and will probably only do so as a way to negotiate down the price of Microsoft licenses.

    Specifically, this one particular organization (the one that calls itself "government") is not the city; it is merely one small facet of the city.

    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 11, @07:16PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 11, @07:16PM (#621045)

      What is that "flamebait". That's basically what happened in Munich.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 11, @07:25PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 11, @07:25PM (#621051)

        That post is not the totality of flamebait, it is only one small part of flamebait. Posted by an American.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 11, @10:52PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 11, @10:52PM (#621161)

        Barcelona = Munich ][

        I bet M$ had to buy a good few of the decision makers in Munich new cars and other favours. Hopefully in this case people have more spine. I wish Munich would repent from MicroSin.

    • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Bot on Thursday January 11, @08:05PM (16 children)

      by Bot (3902) Subscriber Badge on Thursday January 11, @08:05PM (#621061)

      Wow what kind of brainwashing do M$ shills undergo?

      > "Open Source"
      quoted? It's a common term since the late 90s. Did you receive electroshock when you mistakenly pronounced that in positive light during training or something?

      > the city of X does that means only the administration does that and it's one facet of the city
      is this all you come up with? A chatbot could have done better. I guess those 50 cents will not be spent on meatbags for much longer.

      • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 11, @08:10PM (12 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 11, @08:10PM (#621062)

        The only thing I got out of your reply is that communication between people must be inherently difficult.

        Your reading of the OP's comment is very bizarre.

        • (Score: 5, Informative) by aristarchus on Thursday January 11, @08:28PM (11 children)

          by aristarchus (2645) Subscriber Badge on Thursday January 11, @08:28PM (#621071) Journal

          No, it is spot on. Typical Micro$haft technique: FUD. And almost everyone here has been exposed to this enough over the past thirty or so years as to recognize it on sight. And on this site, where it is not as bas as some other sites I could cite.

          --
          #freearistarchus!!!
          • (Score: 0, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 11, @09:12PM (10 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 11, @09:12PM (#621090)
            • There is no FUD.

              Indeed, there is a long history of both governments and non-governments using the threat of alternative software to bring Microsoft to heel during license negotiation. It's a very common occurrence. I worked with a corporate contractor who used this very tactic over and over; it was his main workhorse.

            • Language matters; it shapes how one thinks about the world.

              There is this strange propensity to conflate a government and a people; the past millennia have proved that is a dangerous way to view the world.

              A city government is NOT the city; a city government is just one—preferably quiet—organization that comprises a city.

            • (Score: 4, Insightful) by aristarchus on Thursday January 11, @09:25PM (3 children)

              by aristarchus (2645) Subscriber Badge on Thursday January 11, @09:25PM (#621097) Journal

              One: There is a long history, particularly with manufacturers, for Microsoft to threaten to revoke licenses for Microsoft products of people who switch to Free Software. Claiming that such switching is only tactical is part of the same ecosystem

              Two: Must be a libertariantard. Not so sure about Barcelona, but Francisco Franco is still dead, and it says in the Pre-amble to the United States Constitution, if we may take this as a model in regards to such matters, "We the people. . . .". The Government is the people, or in Latin, the Res Publica.

                    Evidently the shill was trying to make us uncertain of this, and trying to make us Doubt the moving to Free Software is a good idea, because we are afraid that Barcelona would not actually go through with it.

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              #freearistarchus!!!
              • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 11, @09:42PM (2 children)

                by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 11, @09:42PM (#621113)
                • Nowhere can you deduce that that the OP is trying to make you doubt any virtue of moving to "Free Software".

                • People coming together at some point in time to form a government does not imply that said government is synonymous with that people.

                  A government is just another organization in society.

                • (Score: 4, Insightful) by aristarchus on Thursday January 11, @11:05PM

                  by aristarchus (2645) Subscriber Badge on Thursday January 11, @11:05PM (#621164) Journal

                  Nowhere can you deduce that that the OP is trying to make you doubt any virtue of moving to "Free Software".

                  Sure I can! I just did! We went over the same ground with the Munich case, and every other publicized case where governments have repudiated the Micro$oft defacto monopoly. We want to put fear in the hearts of PHBs that if they listen to their IT professionals, they may lose money big time, and Microserft may not let them back into the Charmed Circle.

                  A government is just another organization in society.

                  This is just a idiotic statement, idiotic in the sense that it is made by a private individual who cannot comprehend being part of a community, and so looks upon his neighbors as prey. You, my libertarian AC, are a criminal, in thought already, if not in deed. I hope you get caught.

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                  #freearistarchus!!!
                • (Score: 2) by Bot on Friday January 12, @12:59PM

                  by Bot (3902) Subscriber Badge on Friday January 12, @12:59PM (#621348)

                  > "free software"
                  you are a funny guy

            • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Bot on Thursday January 11, @11:59PM (5 children)

              by Bot (3902) Subscriber Badge on Thursday January 11, @11:59PM (#621183)

              > A city government is NOT the city
              OK guys, raise hands whoever thought the summary implied THE WHOLE FUCKING CITY OF BARCELONA was switching to OPEN SOURCE IN A YEAR OR SO.
              Trolling anon here wants to be sure we got it right.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 12, @05:06AM (4 children)

                by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 12, @05:06AM (#621264)

                There's a reason that the language is this way, and it's not a pleasant reason.

                • (Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 12, @05:23AM (2 children)

                  by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 12, @05:23AM (#621270)

                  So pedantic idiots could attempt to confuse the issue? Do you see that sea of raised Soylentil hands? No? Neither did I. Begone, troll, before we shine the light of truth upon you and your dick turns to stone, and falls off, as it should.

                  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 12, @06:26AM (1 child)

                    by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 12, @06:26AM (#621289)

                    Also, are you not trolling by saying the other AC should have his dick turned to stone and removed? Weird shit, man; weird shit.

                    • (Score: 3, Funny) by aristarchus on Friday January 12, @08:59AM

                      by aristarchus (2645) Subscriber Badge on Friday January 12, @08:59AM (#621312) Journal

                      Not removed, just detached by exposure to the light. It's a Unix thing. LPT1 is on fire.

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                      #freearistarchus!!!
                • (Score: 2) by Bot on Friday January 12, @12:59PM

                  by Bot (3902) Subscriber Badge on Friday January 12, @12:59PM (#621349)

                  there's a reason nobody raised hands, too.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 12, @12:29AM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 12, @12:29AM (#621200)

        "What doth it profiteth a man, if he shills for Micro$oft, but looses his sole?"

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 12, @12:51AM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 12, @12:51AM (#621209)

          "What doth it profiteth a man, if he shills for Micro$oft, but looses his sole?"

          "What doth it profiteth a man, if he shills for Micro$oft, but cannot spell or come up with the grammatically correct words?"

          • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 12, @01:45AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 12, @01:45AM (#621221)

            "What doth it profiteth a man, if he shills for Micro$oft, but looses his sole?"

            "What doth it profiteth a man, if he shills for Micro$oft, but cannot spell or come up with the grammatically correct words?"

            Verily! And forsooth, what DOS it profit! a man cat -v

            CAT(1) User Commands CAT(1)

            NAME
                          cat - concatenate files and print on the standard output

            SYNOPSIS
                          cat [OPTION]... [FILE]...

            DESCRIPTION
                          Concatenate FILE(s), or standard input, to standard output.

            If he shills for Micro$oft, and can spell and grammaterize, but has lost all self-respect, and respect of others, and can only post on SoylentNews as an Anonymous Coward, so that the shame of his sad condition is not made manifest, or spread to his friends and family, who no doubt would then shun him as he so clearly deserves. Yes, what then, my shilly AC?

  • (Score: 2, Troll) by Grishnakh on Thursday January 11, @08:14PM (1 child)

    by Grishnakh (2831) on Thursday January 11, @08:14PM (#621064)

    Barcelona (and the rest of Catalonia by extension) seems like a place with some pretty smart people. They easily outpace the rest of Spain economically, they're working to free themselves from the useless Spaniards, and now they're freeing themselves from shitty Microsoft software, saving taxpayer money, and putting locals to work developing customized software to improve their city's IT. Definitely a lot better than most other large cities. The EU is stupid to refuse admission to an independent Catalonia; these are the kind of smart people you want in a union.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 11, @09:03PM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 11, @09:03PM (#621082)

    Marrisa Borras is hot. What's going on with her?

    • (Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 11, @09:09PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 11, @09:09PM (#621087)

      MY GOD!!!! It's a Hot Chick Red Herring! Redmond must be desperate!!

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 11, @11:08PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 11, @11:08PM (#621166)

        It's a Red Hot Chick Herring! Redmond must be desperate!!

        FTFY... Yeah, English is weird

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 12, @02:56AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 12, @02:56AM (#621235)

      Attractive women can have brains, too.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 12, @03:42AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 12, @03:42AM (#621245)

        Oh you Hedy Lamar! But the point is, no smart women can work for google, because it will make pathetic white conservative males look bad. Poor White conservative males! If only they were Christian, and knew the true meaning of humility. Then they could join the priesthood for much less pay but be able to molest children.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 11, @11:29PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 11, @11:29PM (#621176)

    Until they come back with cash in hand.. So they can tout it as a 'oss failure' when in reality they just defrauded everyone .

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 12, @08:31AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 12, @08:31AM (#621304)

    I'm pleased to see that they will switch out the programs before the operating system. I've found through experience that getting people to change everything at once just leads them to resenting you for the pain it has caused.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 12, @08:37PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 12, @08:37PM (#621546)

      Yeah, it's just like switching from left side road traffic to right side traffic: First week only heavy vehicles change.

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