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There is increasing evidence linking Russia to the Shadow Brokers leaks, which is "one of the worst security debacles ever to befall American intelligence."
Source: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/experts-link-nsa-leaks-shadow-brokers-russia-kaspersky-144840962.html
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(Score: 5, Touché) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday January 15 2018, @09:44AM (2 children)
Good on Russia. Who knew they were American patriots?
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 15 2018, @09:51AM (1 child)
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! This future... I've never seen anything like it! Deeper, deeper! I can see into the deepest future! I can see the future of your ass. I'm the Assteller.
You walk outside your home. Nothing seems to be out of the ordinary, but you feel as if something is watching you, as if something is... targeting you. You look around meticulously, and you see a small doll on the ground, about 10 feet away from you. Somehow, the knowledge that this doll is not only sentient, but pure evil, enters your brain. You feel a primal terror overcome you, and decide to escape back into your house. But it's too late to flee.
Before you can move even a single cheek, the doll rushes at you faster than you can comprehend! The doll crawls up your pants leg and starts making its way towards a particular place on your body. You know where it's trying to go, so you decide to block the lump with your hand. But what's this!? It doesn't work at all! The lump just crawls right under your hand as though the obstruction doesn't even exist. Finally, the doll reaches your most important place... Your ass.
Where did it go? You sense that the doll vanished right up your bootysnap. You ask, "Why are you even doing this to me...?" to the doll, even though you expect no reply. Then, while contemplating the various possibilities about what sort of fate will befall you, you become a mere perspective, as though you're having an out-of-body experience. What are you staring at? Your asshole. Your asshole opens like a circular door from a science fiction movie, revealing the same toy from before. "Because!" it screams, and your ass closes like a circular door from a science fiction movie. It tickles! Your ass tickled horribly when your asshole opened and closed! Just when you begin hoping the doll doesn't do anything else, your asshole opens once more and the doll again screams "Because!" A few milliseconds later, your snaphole closes. Tickle! It tickles, stop! But the doll does not care about your suffering, and that action is repeated again and again, with the tickle insensifying each time. All you hear is the same word monotonously repeated time and time again: "Because! Because! Because! Because! Because! Because! Because! Because! Because!" This tickle... fades away your cheeks...
(Score: 3, Touché) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday January 15 2018, @10:36AM
That's your misfortune. I was taking a shit when you posted that.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by c0lo on Monday January 15 2018, @11:03AM
The way it looks, it's more like some posturing agencies, deluding themselves that having means to exploit a vuln is more valuable than defending US by patching it as soon as possible.
And this idiocy is called... wait for it... intelligence!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Gaaark on Monday January 15 2018, @11:23AM
It's okay if countries use American made and bought weapons to KILL Americans, but using American made "hacking manuals" against Americans is bad, m'kay!
Cuz, no profit......?
American intelligence, indeed!
--- Please remind me if I haven't been civil to you: I'm channeling MDC. ---Gaaark 2.0 ---
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Lester on Monday January 15 2018, @12:28PM (8 children)
Snowden has confirmed that NSA has broken world's security and infiltrated everywhere using software, hardware and services American companies. NSA has played its cards. So Russia and China have.
They have shown that they have skilled hackers, as NSA has. They can use Twitter and Facebook as political weapons as USA does.
Is Kaspersky a Trojan? may be. Is windows a Trojan? may be. It only would probe that they can also use Russian companies to send trojans as USA does. Kaspersky is good antivirus with a level similar to any western antivirus.
This is a new cold war in the realm of communications and cryptography, and contenders are even. Russia and China have good defenses. In fact, they have their own social networks that are much more used that Facebook. China has a whatsapp-like (weTalk) that is much better that whatsapp. It is used also as payment system... if you deposit money, you get more interests that banks, so they are slowly entering in western countries. They have shown that they have good products to offer to western countries, and as non-American I don't see any difference between being hacked by White House, Kremling or China government, so there is going to be a good fight.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by JoeMerchant on Monday January 15 2018, @03:15PM (6 children)
I would call a fight where the bullets are ones and zeros flying around optical fiber networks the best kind of fight.
Now, if we could reduce our dependency on the almighty dollar, those ones and zeroes would have a lot less potential to do real physical harm to people.
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(Score: 4, Insightful) by bob_super on Monday January 15 2018, @05:42PM (2 children)
> I would call a fight where the bullets are ones and zeros flying around optical fiber networks the best kind of fight.
My only problem with this, is that idiots have decided to put vital infrastructure controls at the end of some of the fibers.
And some asshole has decided that it was cheaper to replace human interface to a safe network, and allow access to all my deposits from another one of those fibers.
We're not safe from collateral damage in cyber-war. Keep that paper bank statement (yes, the one they're desperate to replace with an e-mail).
(Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Monday January 15 2018, @07:19PM (1 child)
I feel the same way about paper, but... what happens when my paper 401(k) statement says I have $350K saved up at the end of the last month, and then the electronic transactions show $9999 per day being transferred to various numbered Swiss accounts starting the day after the statement was printed? Does the paper do anything at all to help in that situation? By the time you get the next paper, your account could already be drained to $35.00
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(Score: 2) by bob_super on Monday January 15 2018, @07:35PM
That;s when you grab your paper, and have a face-to-face discussion with a human being until they admit that it's highly implausible that you suddenly decided to drain your 401k into some Nigerian-Nork-Russian prince's bank account without warning.
If someone goes Gitlab at the bank's database, it's also a lot better to have a paper they printed with the amount that they owe you, rather than show them some e-mail you claim they sent you just before they lost the data. I'm not sure what the FDIC's stand on e-mails is, so i'll keep stacking my bank and employer statements recording every dollar I earned...
(Score: 2) by Lester on Monday January 15 2018, @08:13PM (2 children)
Don't trust war will stay in the ones and zeroes world too long if one of the contenders is defeated in that zone.
If one destroys other's cybernetic defenses, next, it will take advantage of it. So, just the minute before being defeated in cyberworld, it commit a sneak attack in real world. Perhaps destroying a communication facility, and then the other side...
The best is similar forces and everyone watching each other with small skirmishes here and there. Nuclear deterrence has worked for years.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by JoeMerchant on Monday January 15 2018, @08:47PM (1 child)
The best is everybody buying in to that old Coca Cola ad from the '70s "I'd like to teach the world to sing, in perfect harmony, I'd like to buy the world a Coke, and keep them company...." or something like that.
The more Chinese we have commuting to/from the US, the more Americans we have commuting to/from China, the more personal and business relationships that develop across borders, and the more those people with the relationships participate in their respective countries' governments, the closer we will be to not needing to spend so much on MAD.
Open war between the countries means freezing / seizing assets of foreign nationals, when the value of those assets is high enough, that's a strong disincentive to go to war.
We've only been serious about racial integration in the US for about 50 years, and we've only had really open heavy trade with China for about 25... these things take time, but so far we seem to be moving on a mostly positive track.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 15 2018, @11:12PM
This is a fundamental idea behind the European Union.
The more the people from the different countries mix together, the less likely it becomes that one European country will go to war with another European country.
For those that are interested, Wikipedia has a good article under "Schuman Declaration".
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 15 2018, @10:37PM
If anything, being hacked by a foreign government rather than your own might be preferable, as foreign governments rarely care to use parallel construction in order to press criminal charges over domestic infractions. All the better if it's a foreign government with no interest in sharing what it learns with your own.
Of course, if you're trying to protect intellectual property or trade secrets, you'd probably prefer that it's your government who will respect copyright, rather than a foreign government who will funnel that information into its own private sector for the boost to the GDP and the ability to cut down on reliance on foreign goods and services.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by looorg on Monday January 15 2018, @04:16PM
Evidence or insinuation? Seems a bit light on the first and heavy on the second. I'm not saying it ain't true but the article is by itself quite light on evidence of anything.
Let this boil for a bit and you could make yourself one good ol' Jew conspiracy.
(Score: 2) by HiThere on Monday January 15 2018, @06:16PM (1 child)
It doesn't take much evidence to make me think probable things that I already consider plausible.
OTOH, the sources aren't exactly trustworthy, and aren't exactly known for honesty, and I wouldn't say fabricating even more convincing evidence was beyond them. It's not like it's unreasonable to doubt something attributed to "a senior intelligence operative" who declines to be identified. That strikes me as slightly less reliable than gossip.
Javascript is what you use to allow unknown third parties to run software you have no idea about on your computer.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by cyrano on Monday January 15 2018, @07:19PM
2 years ago, the Mirai botnet was said to be Russian and set out to influence US elections and take down US online business. By the same sources as these rumours.
Today we know the Mirai botnet was started by a couple of American students.
The first was widely reported by MSM. The second fact was hardly reported at all...
Evidence, in this case, came from Iraeli sources who openly admitted to being criminals, as they breached Kaspersky's servers. The evidence itself mainly consists of screenshots and text files. Any one of us could fake these easily.
Are those israelis I can hear laughing?
The quieter you become, the more you are able to hear. - Kali [kali.org]
(Score: 2) by linkdude64 on Monday January 15 2018, @11:21PM (1 child)
They forgot to use Firefox in Incognito Mode with javascript disabled.
It's times like this that the populace being so computer illiterate gets me less frustrated and more cynical overall. How stupidly easy any of this shit is to fake is just beyond the comprehension of so many people. Even keeping it completely within the realm of what they can personally envision it's simple, yet the "Thinking" part of the equation never occurs. "This backtraced computer hacking signal came from inside Russia!!!!!" Well guess fucking what? If you go to Russia as a tourist, buy a stolen computer off the street, go to Comrade's Coffee Shop and use their WiFi you also have a Russian IP address!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 17 2018, @12:52AM
I think the DNC broke pretty much all of those rules. Off gov site server. Their 'IT' guy posting on reddit how to wipe it. Blowing away tons of emails about 'weddings and yoga'.
I have no sympathy that they got outed. One of the dudes who got 'hacked' had a password of basically password. Yeah.