from the nice-and-all-till-they-begin-to-talk-and-say-NO dept.
First monkey clones created in Chinese laboratory
Two monkeys have been cloned using the technique that produced Dolly the sheep. Identical long-tailed macaques Zhong Zhong and Hua Hua were born several weeks ago at a laboratory in China.
Scientists say populations of monkeys that are genetically identical will be useful for research into human diseases. But critics say the work raises ethical concerns by bringing the world closer to human cloning.
Qiang Sun of the Chinese Academy of Sciences Institute of Neuroscience said the cloned monkeys will be useful as a model for studying diseases with a genetic basis, including some cancers, metabolic and immune disorders. "There are a lot of questions about primate biology that can be studied by having this additional model," he said.
[...] Prof Robin Lovell-Badge of The Francis Crick Institute, London, said the [somatic cell nuclear transfer] technique used to clone Zhong Zhong and Hua Hua remains "a very inefficient and hazardous procedure". "The work in this paper is not a stepping-stone to establishing methods for obtaining live born human clones," he said.
China will get the job done while 洋鬼子 twiddle their thumbs in their ivory towers.
Cloning of Macaque Monkeys by Somatic Cell Nuclear Transfer (open, DOI: 10.1016/j.cell.2018.01.020) (DX)
(Score: 2, Insightful) by anubi on Thursday January 25 2018, @10:42AM (1 child)
Cloning may be the only way of getting IDENTICAL genetic structures to work with, so as to eliminate other variances from their impact on the phenomena under study.
"Prove all things; hold fast that which is good." [KJV: I Thessalonians 5:21]
(Score: 5, Interesting) by takyon on Thursday January 25 2018, @11:01AM
Mostly identical. If they have a lot of mutations early in the embryo stage, that could lead to some big differences when fully grown.
However the Dolly the sheep death from "early aging" was overplayed by critics [soylentnews.org].
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 25 2018, @11:00AM (1 child)
A hacker going under the alias "First Monkey" cloned a game named "Created", right? :-)
(Score: 3, Funny) by takyon on Thursday January 25 2018, @11:03AM
Yeah!
No, I'd write it "First Monkey" Clones Created, or Hacker on Steroids Creates Clone of "First Monkey".
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(Score: 2) by cubancigar11 on Thursday January 25 2018, @12:55PM
Let China clone domestic devils and as long they remain in China and journals are accessible and comprehensible to non-Chinese, who cares? The only thing to monitor is that the tower remains a tower.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by bradley13 on Thursday January 25 2018, @01:14PM (1 child)
I always love sentences like this: "critics say the work raises ethical concerns by bringing the world closer to human cloning". So what exactly do the critics want to do? Avoid the discussion by somehow stopping technological progress.
Maybe it's time we had those ethical discussions. You know, before cloning is fait accompli? Of course, different cultures may well take different views on it, and anyone who disagrees with "us" will be dead wrong, and ultimately evil /sarc
Everyone is somebody else's weirdo.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by acid andy on Thursday January 25 2018, @06:12PM
Yes I agree with you. Somebody Else's Problem. They're passing the buck to the moral philosophers -- and you rarely see articles in the mainstream media about them. Rather than the critics saying that the work raises the conerns, shouldn't the critics be the ones raising the ethical concerns themselves?
Also, they're quick to talk ethics about some hypothetical future involving humans but this is classic speciesism: this stuff is already being done to other primates as per the article! Further, I'm sure those primates are much more concerned about being confined and manhandled in a sparse, fluorescent Chinese laboratory than the fact that one of the others, newly arrived, looks awfully familiar.
If a cat has kittens, does a rat have rittens, a bat bittens and a mat mittens?