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posted by Fnord666 on Wednesday January 31 2018, @02:08PM   Printer-friendly
from the sequels-are-always-worse dept.

Submitted via IRC for AndyTheAbsurd

First, don't call it "Vine Two". Details are starting to emerge about v2, the forthcoming video app built to replace Vine by its former co-founder Dom..

If I'd written this article, it would have consisted of one word: "Poorly".

Source: https://techcrunch.com/2018/01/23/how-vine-2-works/


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  • (Score: 2) by bradley13 on Wednesday January 31 2018, @02:19PM (4 children)

    by bradley13 (3053) on Wednesday January 31 2018, @02:19PM (#630946) Homepage Journal

    I only have one question: why?

    Back when Vine was a think, some social media consultant tried to convince us how important it was. We just had to have a Vine channel (or whatever they called it). It was trendy! It was new! It absolutely wouldn't soak up masses of our time for no purpose! It had absolutely nothing to do with the fact that he wanted us to pay him to make the videos!

    WTF do people want 6.5 second videos? Cut cat videos, I can put on any of a zillion platforms, or just on my own damned website. Actual, useful content, in 6.5 seconds? Not possible.

    So Vine flopped, quelle surprise. The guy wants a second bite of the apple. DIAF.

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    • (Score: 4, Funny) by kazzie on Wednesday January 31 2018, @02:34PM (1 child)

      by kazzie (5309) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday January 31 2018, @02:34PM (#630954)

      Actual, useful content, in 6.5 seconds? Not possible.

      Hm. I read your comment in 5 seconds.

    • (Score: 2) by meustrus on Wednesday January 31 2018, @07:55PM

      by meustrus (4961) on Wednesday January 31 2018, @07:55PM (#631129)

      So Vine flopped, quelle surprise.

      More like it was bought and shelved. Maybe it would have been a success with more support, maybe not. But acquisition is one of the surest ways to squander any product's potential.

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    • (Score: 2) by tibman on Wednesday January 31 2018, @08:24PM

      by tibman (134) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday January 31 2018, @08:24PM (#631152)

      I use snapchat occasionally. A picture or short clip is all you need for a lot of things. I have a friend who cooks so i snap her a pic of every meal i cook and she does the same. We don't chat, just send pics of our creations. My wife gets short cat clips when she's away. No need to permanently store that crap anywhere. Don't have a myfaceplace anyways.

      I usually try out whatever trendy app there is to see what's going on. Most are really bad. Some are just confusing. Vine looked dumb. V2 looks dumb. I liked the concept of YikYak except legit conversations were impossible because everyone downvoted. Whatsapp is a good chat client (if you can convince others to use it).

      Jumping onto a trending thing is fine if you jump in early. Especially if you don't over invest and have plans for the thing's unexpected death. It would be great if your company was able to reach new customers in a space with zero competition. But honestly, vine is dumb. Tying your company's PR to vine is extra dumb. Your company could have the guy make videos and upload them everywhere. When a new platform comes out you can drop all your existing videos on it.

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  • (Score: 2) by kazzie on Wednesday January 31 2018, @02:33PM

    by kazzie (5309) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday January 31 2018, @02:33PM (#630953)

    How about V-2 [wikipedia.org]?

  • (Score: 2) by takyon on Wednesday January 31 2018, @02:37PM (5 children)

    by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Wednesday January 31 2018, @02:37PM (#630956) Journal

    Oh, you mean YouTube and Instagram?

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    • (Score: 2) by meustrus on Wednesday January 31 2018, @08:01PM (4 children)

      by meustrus (4961) on Wednesday January 31 2018, @08:01PM (#631131)

      YouTube favors long content (10-30 minutes). The days of short YouTube memes is over.

      Instagram is for still photos. There are many, many things you can't visually convey without motion.

      I see Vine as the social-enabled YTMND. Which means that even though I don't do social-enabled, it's good for those that do to have this classic internet experience.

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      • (Score: 2) by takyon on Wednesday January 31 2018, @09:49PM (3 children)

        by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Wednesday January 31 2018, @09:49PM (#631195) Journal

        YouTube favors long content (10-30 minutes). The days of short YouTube memes is over.

        Viners adapted their content and style when they transitioned to YouTube. Many of them became "vloggers" and many make 10 minute videos (the easy trick to stuffing lots of ads into a YouTube video). The Viner-to-YouTuber evolution is discussed in this article over here that I submitted and everyone hated:

        1600 Vine Street [soylentnews.org]

        Instagram is for still photos. There are many, many things you can't visually convey without motion.

        We got a literal old man over here!

        Instagram Help Center: How do I post a video? [instagram.com]

        To upload a video or record a new one, first tap [symbol] at the bottom of the screen:

        To upload a video from your phone's library, tap Library at the bottom of the screen and select the video you'd like to share.
        To record a video, tap Video at the bottom of the screen. Tap and hold [symbol] to start recording, and lift your finger to stop. You can tap and hold again to record multiple video clips and tap [symbol] to switch between cameras.

        Keep in mind that the maximum video length is 60 seconds. Once you've recorded or uploaded a video, you can add a filter, a caption and your location before sharing.

        Not only do they have videos, but they have to be short!

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        • (Score: 2) by meustrus on Thursday February 01 2018, @09:35PM (2 children)

          by meustrus (4961) on Thursday February 01 2018, @09:35PM (#631708)

          Guess I'll accept being called old here since I'll fit in that way. But the real reason is that I have zero interest in social media, and for whatever reason the news that Instagram ventured out of their core product never reached me.

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