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posted by Fnord666 on Sunday February 04 2018, @06:06AM   Printer-friendly
from the progress++ dept.

Over at the Open Source Initiative, Simon Phipps writes about the past, present, and future of Open Source Software as it turns 20 this year. Thought of in a strategy session on how to make Free Software more palatable to certain business interests, the orignal idea was for it to be a stepping stone from proprietary to Free Software by focusing first on the advantages of the developmental model.

Thirty-five years ago when Richard Stallman decided that he could no longer tolerate proprietary software, and started the free software movement, software freedom was misunderstood and dismissed. Twenty years ago a group of free software advocates gathered in California and decided that software freedom needed to be brought to the business world. The result was a marketing program called "open source". That same month, February 1998, the Open Source Initiative (OSI) was founded as a general educational and advocacy organization to raise awareness and adoption for the superiority of an open development process.

Of course, old-timers will remind us that originally software was source and binaries did not count. Up until the late 1970s or early 1980s, when you bought software, it was source.

Source : Happy Anniversary—The Next 20 Years of Open Source Begins Today

Related:
https://perens.com/2017/09/26/on-usage-of-the-phrase-open-source/


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Technology journalist Nathan Willis has taken a look at the election at the Open Source Initiative (OSI). The election appears to have brought with it several severe conflicts of interest. Several sponsors are running candidates and several corporations are running multiple candidates for multiple seats. Little information was available about some candidates and their stances on Open Source Software and its community.

Ostensibly, these elections are serious affairs. The OSI is high-profile organization, with a robust list of Big Tech sponsor companies funding it. And "open source" as a term is the OSI's property: the OSI is in charge of the trademark and defends it when it is misused; the OSI also maintains the formal "open source" definition and the list of licenses that you are permitted to call "open source". [...]

Nevertheless, these elections kinda just plod through without a lot of interest or engagement. [...] That's in pretty stark contrast to the public back-and-forth that happens for Debian Project Leader (DPL) elections and the brouhaha over recent leadership "maneuvering" (scare quotes intentional) in the FSF.

The OSI board candidates can each write a candidacy-page text that gets put on the wiki, but it can say whatever they want. In short, to you the voter, there's no genuine back-and-forth provided. No debates, no time allotted, no required position papers, etc. For the past few years, however, Luis Villa has made an effort to pose questions to the candidates. I think that's great. Although not everyone answers, some do. [...]

Follow the story link for a detailed breakdown of the ballot candidates and the issues he is concerned about.

Bruce Perens Solicits Comments on First Draft of a Post-Open License 13 comments

Bruce Perens is working on licensing for a new, post-Open Source era to take open source licensing past the apparent stalling point it has reached on its way towards software freedom. As he noted earlier, current licenses are not meeting that goal and businesses have either found loophole or just plain been allowed to ignore the licensing. A move more towards a contract is needed.

At the link below is the first draft of the Post-Open License. This is not yet the product of a qualified attorney, and you shouldn't apply it to your own work yet. There isn't context for this license yet, so some things won't make sense: for example the license is administered by an entity called the "POST-OPEN ADMINISTRATION" and I haven't figured out how to structure that organization so that people can trust it. There are probably also terms I can't get away with legally, this awaits work with a lawyer.

Because the license attempts to handle very many problems that have arisen with Open Source licensing, it's big. It's approaching the size of AGPL3, which I guess is a metric for a relatively modern license, since AGPL3 is now 17 years old

The draft license is quite long since it covers quite a few scenarios.

Previously:
(2023) What Comes After Open Source? Bruce Perens is Working on It
(2018) The Next 20 Years of Open Source Software Begins Today


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  • (Score: 5, Funny) by aristarchus on Sunday February 04 2018, @06:36AM (2 children)

    by aristarchus (2645) on Sunday February 04 2018, @06:36AM (#632830) Journal

    I feel a massive disturbance in the source! It is as if millions of free software coders cried out, and vanished.

  • (Score: 5, Informative) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Sunday February 04 2018, @07:08AM (13 children)

    by MichaelDavidCrawford (2339) Subscriber Badge <mdcrawford@gmail.com> on Sunday February 04 2018, @07:08AM (#632841) Homepage Journal

    Why Open Source misses the point of Free Software [gnu.org]

    I'll send you my bill in the mail.

    --
    Yes I Have No Bananas. [gofundme.com]
    • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 04 2018, @09:03AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 04 2018, @09:03AM (#632855)

      I'll send you my bill in the mail.

      As the source of the mail, I expect you to be freely open. Otherwise I won't look at it.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 04 2018, @11:38PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 04 2018, @11:38PM (#633065)

        You're thinking about his mom. We were all looking at her last week.

    • (Score: 3, Informative) by maxwell demon on Sunday February 04 2018, @09:23AM (2 children)

      by maxwell demon (1608) on Sunday February 04 2018, @09:23AM (#632860) Journal

      Why Open Source misses the point of Free Software

      From TFA:

      In the third decade of open source, we will rediscover software freedom.

      --
      The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
      • (Score: 3, Informative) by Arik on Sunday February 04 2018, @11:40AM (1 child)

        by Arik (4543) on Sunday February 04 2018, @11:40AM (#632879) Journal
        "In the third decade of open source, we will rediscover software freedom."

        So they're going to seek to find relevance by... becoming what they rebelled against?
        --
        If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
        • (Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 04 2018, @12:42PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 04 2018, @12:42PM (#632898)

          Not so much a rebellion but a (poorly thought) marketing exercise.

    • (Score: 2) by Grishnakh on Sunday February 04 2018, @04:37PM (7 children)

      by Grishnakh (2831) on Sunday February 04 2018, @04:37PM (#632948)

      No, it doesn't miss the point at all, it simply doesn't aspire to the same level of Freedom that Free Software does.

      There's a whole range of software freedom out there, ranging from completely closed-source and proprietary at one end, to Stallman's ideal Free Software at the other end. Not all software needs to be at one end of the spectrum or the other. For instance, Microsoft's crappy "Shared Source" is still better (for customers who have access to it) than completely closed software, because at least you can inspect it and see how it works internally if you're having some problem. Yeah, you can't really compile it or modify it, but it's better than nothing. Other licenses might place the source code (plus all build tools needed) into escrow, so that a customer can have access to everything needed in case a vendor folds. Again, not as good certainly as the GPL, but still better than being SOL if your software vendor disappears. A license allowing you source access and the ability to modify, but prohibiting redistribution, could be a good option for a software vendor and customer. The GPL is great for Free software, but it makes profiting off software sales pretty much impossible. For stuff like Linux, that's fine, the contributors to Linux (kernel) aren't trying to profit from software sales. For a company that profits entirely from support services, that could be a fine option too. Someone trying to make a living off of sales, however, isn't going to get far with the GPL since their first customer can just post it on the internet for the whole world to use for free.

      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by opinionated_science on Sunday February 04 2018, @06:35PM (5 children)

        by opinionated_science (4031) on Sunday February 04 2018, @06:35PM (#632978)

        The GPL is great for Free software, but it makes profiting off software sales pretty much impossible.

        Redhat seems to have found a way.

        Remember kids, artificial scarcity is the way to raise prices in a "free market".

        • (Score: 2) by Grishnakh on Sunday February 04 2018, @06:38PM (3 children)

          by Grishnakh (2831) on Sunday February 04 2018, @06:38PM (#632983)

          What works for one company isn't guaranteed to work for others. Red Hat doesn't even make any application software to my knowledge, they just handle the OS.

          • (Score: 3, Interesting) by opinionated_science on Sunday February 04 2018, @07:32PM (1 child)

            by opinionated_science (4031) on Sunday February 04 2018, @07:32PM (#632997)

            well Ubuntu builds on debian. Of course the amount of money they burnt on Mir, just to have control.

            I get why companies want control, it's their money.

            But the world would be a much better place if API's and specs were written first, to avoid the proprietary mould from infrecting GPL principles.

            Make no mistake, EVERY $CORP wants TOTAL control. Software and remote operation just makes it easier.

            GPL forever.

            11 years Windoze free....

            • (Score: 2) by Grishnakh on Sunday February 04 2018, @08:28PM

              by Grishnakh (2831) on Sunday February 04 2018, @08:28PM (#633013)

              I get why companies want control, it's their money.

              Companies want control because they can make more profit that way. Lock-in gets you more profit because customers can't easily leave for a competitor, for instance.

              But the world would be a much better place if API's and specs were written first, to avoid the proprietary mould from infrecting GPL principles.

              If your software is GPL and freely downloadable, having APIs written beforehand isn't all that necessary since you can just consult the source for how the APIs are now. Of course, if the devs are constantly changing the APIs a la Gnome3/Gtk, that can be a real problem unless you fork it, but that doesn't usually work out well unless you can get everyone to follow your fork (like with XFree86->X.org).

              GPL forever.

              GPL is great and all, but what if you're a company and you need some piece of application software for important business reasons, and your only real choices are proprietary? Best case, that proprietary software should run on Linux, so you can at least have a FOSS IT infrastructure and not have to worry about Microsoft screwing everything up with one of their updates, and so that you have your own control over it, even if you don't have control over every single application you run on it. To me, it's FAR more important for the infrastructure to be FOSS than for applications to be. Proprietary file formats are of course a problem, but not nearly as bad as your whole OS being proprietary. If I were more clever, I'd make some kind of analogy here about building foundations.

          • (Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Monday February 05 2018, @06:07AM

            by MichaelDavidCrawford (2339) Subscriber Badge <mdcrawford@gmail.com> on Monday February 05 2018, @06:07AM (#633152) Homepage Journal

            Of all the crazy things, Red Hat once offered to buy my consultancy. I turned it down because I knew that I would be required to build every customer solution entirely out of Red Hat products.

            Microsoft too.

            I should have taken the money then left the country to go trekking in the Amazon rainforest. I've always wanted to do that.

            --
            Yes I Have No Bananas. [gofundme.com]
        • (Score: 2) by realDonaldTrump on Monday February 05 2018, @02:52AM

          by realDonaldTrump (6614) on Monday February 05 2018, @02:52AM (#633121) Journal

          Red Hat, great American company. They have tremendous contracts with my Department of Defense.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 05 2018, @02:54AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 05 2018, @02:54AM (#633122)

        Not all software needs to be at one end of the spectrum or the other.

        Software that does not respect all of a users' freedoms is inherently unjust. Injustices do not become morally okay simply because someone can profit off of them, either.

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Sunday February 04 2018, @03:56PM (2 children)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Sunday February 04 2018, @03:56PM (#632935) Journal

    And, today is the first day of the rest of your life. Ho-hum. These things sound witty the first time you hear them.

    --
    We're gonna be able to vacation in Gaza, Cuba, Venezuela, Iran and maybe Minnesota soon. Incredible times.
    • (Score: 2) by kazzie on Sunday February 04 2018, @08:00PM (1 child)

      by kazzie (5309) Subscriber Badge on Sunday February 04 2018, @08:00PM (#633010)

      Equally, the next 20 years of Microsoft, Apple and Facebook begin today!

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 05 2018, @03:17AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 05 2018, @03:17AM (#633126)

        which of the three will fail first?

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