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posted by Fnord666 on Tuesday February 13, @07:04PM   Printer-friendly
from the celebrity-has-its-shortcomings dept.

Late last month, a YouTube celebrity couple hid in their closet and called police while an armed, deranged fan ransacked their home.

Christopher Giles, who police described as "single, lonely and disturbed," had made the 11-hour drive from Albuquerque, according to documents filed in the 2nd Judicial District Court. And his phone was full of notes suggesting he had "developed a fondness" for the woman, Megan Turney, and a dislike of her boyfriend, Gavin Free.

Turney, 30, was made famous through her video blogs on anime, relationship advice and her life. Free, 29, is the co-host of a YouTube video series of slow-motion videos.

[...] According to that search warrant affidavit, around 3:40 a.m. on Jan. 26, Turney and Free awoke to the sound of breaking glass and a gunshot. They hid in their bedroom closet and called 911 while Giles searched their home for them.

When he couldn't find the couple, Giles left, encountering Austin Police Department officers on his way out.

The officers found Giles backing out of the driveway in his Lincoln sedan with a New Mexico license plate and ordered him to stop.

Instead, they heard a single gunshot coming from the car. An officer returned fire.

Giles was pronounced dead on the scene, a .45 caliber handgun near his hand, according to the affidavit. Turney and Free were not harmed.

[...] "Based on the footage seen it was apparent that Giles' sole intent was to cause harm to someone who resides there," the detective wrote in the complaint.

[...] Albuquerque Police Department detectives who executed a search warrant on his home in Albuquerque said Giles lived alone and was "an avid player of video games and was known for watching YouTube videos that were centered on his hobby."


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  • (Score: 0, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 13, @07:29PM (40 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 13, @07:29PM (#637233)
    Win stupid prizes. When you're a power couple who both screams about video games and shakes your jugs on the interweb video sites you're going to attract this kind of fan.
    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Tuesday February 13, @08:15PM (39 children)

      Some guy convinced his girlfriend to shoot at a book that he held over his chest. He somehow managed to convince her that the bullet wouldn't penetrate.

      Hilarity ensued.

      --
      "MICHAEL DAVID CRAWFORD IS A LYING MOTHERFUCKER."
      -- Anonymous Coward
      • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 13, @08:55PM (3 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 13, @08:55PM (#637263)

        Hilarity Mortality ensued.

        FTFY. Hilarity and mortality are hardly ever the same thing, although this case comes close.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 13, @10:33PM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 13, @10:33PM (#637310)

          How does the old saw go? "It's always funny until someone loses an eye. Than, it's hilarious!"

          • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Wednesday February 14, @05:32PM

            by Freeman (732) on Wednesday February 14, @05:32PM (#637695) Journal

            "It's all fun and games until someone gets hurt." No dark humor after. Though, there are some with a warped sense of reality.

            --
            "I said in my haste, All men are liars." Psalm 116:11
        • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Wednesday February 14, @07:17PM

          by DeathMonkey (1380) on Wednesday February 14, @07:17PM (#637790) Journal

          Hilarity and mortality are hardly ever the same thing

          Wait a sec......am I on the right website?

      • (Score: 3, Informative) by insanumingenium on Tuesday February 13, @11:03PM (31 children)

        by insanumingenium (4824) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday February 13, @11:03PM (#637322)

        What is more confusing, is it was a 50 caliber desert eagle from what I read, and he had shown her a book that wasn't fully penetrated. If he had ever fired it at anything, as he had claimed, he should have known the book wouldn't have been effective. I don't see how that could have been anything other than assisted suicide or murder given those facts, either way their 3 year old watching is particularly cold blooded.

        • (Score: 2) by Arik on Tuesday February 13, @11:46PM (30 children)

          by Arik (4543) on Tuesday February 13, @11:46PM (#637338)
          Correct, I remember the story you are talking about, and thought at the time it sure sounded like his way out. Sounded like he went to some lengths to convince her to do something carefully calculated to kill him.
          --
          "If Evolution Is Outlawed, Only Outlaws Will Evolve."
          • (Score: 2) by insanumingenium on Wednesday February 14, @12:13AM (29 children)

            by insanumingenium (4824) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday February 14, @12:13AM (#637354)

            �What I don't get is, assuming that is the case, how was doing the deed yourself not easier, spare your girlfriend and child the trauma.

            • (Score: 2) by Arik on Wednesday February 14, @12:18AM

              by Arik (4543) on Wednesday February 14, @12:18AM (#637359)
              Who can say what was going through his mind though?

              Might have thought this would somehow make it easier for them. Might have thought she'd make a lot of money off the video, at least.

              But I guess we'll never know.
              --
              "If Evolution Is Outlawed, Only Outlaws Will Evolve."
            • (Score: 5, Informative) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Wednesday February 14, @01:03AM (26 children)

              by MichaelDavidCrawford (2339) Subscriber Badge <mdcrawford@gmail.com> on Wednesday February 14, @01:03AM (#637382) Homepage Journal

              For me to come to understand this was a crucial step in my recovery from batshit insanity.

              That delusion can take many forms.

              Suicidal people sometimes appear happy, for the reason that they have come up with a solution to all their troubles.

              If your friend or loved one should start giving away all their possessions, shoot them with a tranquilizer gun, capture them in a butterfly net then deliver them to a Psychiatric Intensive Care Unit.

              --
              "MICHAEL DAVID CRAWFORD IS A LYING MOTHERFUCKER."
              -- Anonymous Coward
              • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Arik on Wednesday February 14, @01:08AM (25 children)

                by Arik (4543) on Wednesday February 14, @01:08AM (#637384)
                If someone has made up their mind to leave this world what right do you have to force them to stay?
                --
                "If Evolution Is Outlawed, Only Outlaws Will Evolve."
                • (Score: 2) by Reziac on Wednesday February 14, @06:19AM (3 children)

                  by Reziac (2489) on Wednesday February 14, @06:19AM (#637481) Homepage

                  Suicide has frequently been (and in some places still is) illegal, even a felony. [I expect this is a holdover from when a serf's labor was owned by his master.]

                  How the state planned to punish successful "criminals" escapes me, tho I suppose they could always impost a death tax (or penalty) on the miscreant's survivors.

                  • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Wednesday February 14, @04:47PM (1 child)

                    by Freeman (732) on Wednesday February 14, @04:47PM (#637661) Journal

                    Suicide being illegal, means helping someone commit suicide would be illegal. I would be surprised, if the law was there just for that purpose.

                    --
                    "I said in my haste, All men are liars." Psalm 116:11
                    • (Score: 2) by Reziac on Wednesday February 14, @07:02PM

                      by Reziac (2489) on Wednesday February 14, @07:02PM (#637774) Homepage

                      No, suicide itself was illegal, even without assistance.

                  • (Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Wednesday February 14, @09:16PM

                    by MichaelDavidCrawford (2339) Subscriber Badge <mdcrawford@gmail.com> on Wednesday February 14, @09:16PM (#637885) Homepage Journal

                    The judge can force you to spend ten days in a hospital but there must be a hearing first. In California there's an informal hearing at the hospital, then a far more serious hearing in a courthouse.

                    In Washington there's only one hearing, also in the hospital, but the procedure is quite formal.

                    --
                    "MICHAEL DAVID CRAWFORD IS A LYING MOTHERFUCKER."
                    -- Anonymous Coward
                • (Score: 3, Disagree) by cubancigar11 on Wednesday February 14, @07:38AM (16 children)

                  by cubancigar11 (330) on Wednesday February 14, @07:38AM (#637505) Homepage Journal

                  As a social worker working with suicidal men, let me say that nobody has 'made up their mind' to commit suicide. Suicidal thoughts come like unbearable wave and the only thing required to save a life is to let that wave pass. Once the wave passes we can work on why it came. Once a guy called me and said he is holding a bottle of poison and he is going to commit suicide. I told him that I am very busy and is it possible to delay the suicide for next 2 hours? 2 hours later the wave had subsided and he was rational.

                  Is it also why it is extremely important to have friends to talk to, even if they are just listeners.

                  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by Arik on Wednesday February 14, @04:12PM (15 children)

                    by Arik (4543) on Wednesday February 14, @04:12PM (#637634)
                    "As a social worker working with suicidal men, let me say that nobody has 'made up their mind' to commit suicide."

                    You're wrong. I even have a link extremely handy for you, courtesy of anon above.

                    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/7326304/City-executive-delayed-suicide-so-wife-could-claim-life-insurance.html

                    Now maybe the people *you* have encountered and worked with haven't. Likely so. Someone that's made their mind up isn't going to be contacting a social worker. But the world is larger than the bubble of you passing through it.

                    "Once a guy called me and said he is holding a bottle of poison and he is going to commit suicide."

                    Yep, that was a guy that wanted attention, not exit. He may have been depressed for whatever reason, he might have been genuinely *thinking* about suicide, *contemplating* suicide as a possibility (and likely moreso fantasizing about how the various people in his life would be affected) but he's certainly not made up his mind to do it, in fact he's clearly looking for any shred of an excuse to put it down, which is why he called.

                    Now remember I was responding to the guy that said "Suicidal people sometimes appear happy, for the reason that they have come up with a solution to all their troubles. If your friend or loved one should start giving away all their possessions, shoot them with a tranquilizer gun, capture them in a butterfly net then deliver them to a Psychiatric Intensive Care Unit." That doesn't sound to me like someone that's going to be calling the hotline looking for an excuse to stop, it sounds like someone that may have made up his mind to leave, and my question was what gives you the right to assault them like that and force them to stay?

                    Did you have anything to say relevant to the context?
                    --
                    "If Evolution Is Outlawed, Only Outlaws Will Evolve."
                    • (Score: 1, Troll) by cubancigar11 on Wednesday February 14, @04:17PM (13 children)

                      by cubancigar11 (330) on Wednesday February 14, @04:17PM (#637638) Homepage Journal

                      I stopped reading after 'you are wrong' because I actually got trained by professors of psychology.

                      • (Score: 3, Touché) by insanumingenium on Wednesday February 14, @05:22PM (11 children)

                        by insanumingenium (4824) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday February 14, @05:22PM (#637682)

                        What exactly is that appeal to authority supposed to prove?

                        • (Score: 1, Flamebait) by cubancigar11 on Thursday February 15, @09:07AM (10 children)

                          by cubancigar11 (330) on Thursday February 15, @09:07AM (#638148) Homepage Journal

                          Not everything is supposed to be about proving something to you. I did a training, I helped save lives, I told what I learned now you want to argue about it. Great!

                          Next in line: Don't vaccinate your children because doctors are not an authority!

                          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 15, @03:58PM (4 children)

                            by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 15, @03:58PM (#638269)

                            Only your own viewpoint matters, and you'd rather be happy than competent.

                            Got it.

                            • (Score: 1, Flamebait) by cubancigar11 on Thursday February 15, @04:17PM (3 children)

                              by cubancigar11 (330) on Thursday February 15, @04:17PM (#638275) Homepage Journal

                              Is there a sudden reading comprehension failure here? The opinion is of a psychology professor who conducts training, vs something off the internet.

                              Suddenly I feel like I am surrounded by spurned ex-lovers.

                              • (Score: 3, Insightful) by FatPhil on Saturday February 17, @04:02AM (2 children)

                                by FatPhil (863) <pc-soylentNO@SPAMasdf.fi> on Saturday February 17, @04:02AM (#639195) Homepage
                                > Is there a sudden reading comprehension failure here?

                                Possibly. If so, by you. It's clear that there's a general logic failure going on - by you.

                                > The opinion is of a psychology professor who conducts training, vs something off the internet.

                                Now google "appeal to authority", which isn't your greatest logical falacy here. Your most egregiious logical falacy is one I like to call "bad fucking logic".

                                You say: "All X is Y"
                                Someone says: "I know of an X which is not Y"
                                You lose.
                                Thats's it.
                                Then you throw in appeal to authority just for good measure.
                                Your argument is categorically proved false just with one counter example.
                                If you can't tell the difference between "all" and most/many, please, just stop making pronouncements on the internet.
                                You are the "something off the internet" that you wish us to spurn.
                                Happy to oblige.

                                > Suddenly I feel like I am surrounded by spurned ex-lovers.

                                Nineteen and a half years and still going strong, here. Two houses and two businesses shared we're both so confident that there's no likelihood of any split down the road. Yourself?
                                --
                                The "free" in #freearistarchus is the "free" in "free jazz"
                                • (Score: 2) by cubancigar11 on Sunday February 18, @09:00PM (1 child)

                                  by cubancigar11 (330) on Sunday February 18, @09:00PM (#639810) Homepage Journal

                                  Dude, I am not "proclaiming" anything but it is very clear you want to win very hard. I reiterated something that I was trained into. Get it? Read that sentence again? If you have such a scratch to itch go scratch it for all I care; I can't go talk to a suicidal person next time by unlearning what I have been taught because some dumbass armchair self-proclaimed psychologist convinced me on soylentnews otherwise. Get it?? Probably not.

                                  Damn, it is difficult to talk to people you have outgrown! Bye bye!

                                  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by FatPhil on Monday February 19, @12:02AM

                                    by FatPhil (863) <pc-soylentNO@SPAMasdf.fi> on Monday February 19, @12:02AM (#639871) Homepage
                                    Now address the logic of our argument.
                                    I say argument, singular, as all three of us have identified the same flaw in your argument.
                                    --
                                    The "free" in #freearistarchus is the "free" in "free jazz"
                          • (Score: 1, Troll) by insanumingenium on Thursday February 15, @04:53PM (4 children)

                            by insanumingenium (4824) Subscriber Badge on Thursday February 15, @04:53PM (#638287)
                            You made a statement of fact that is flat untrue.

                            As a social worker working with suicidal men, let me say that nobody has 'made up their mind' to commit suicide.

                            You can never support an argument that nobody wants something. When that was pointed out you indicated that you wouldn't even read the comment because you has some sort of training, and I am sorry, but that is a logical fallacy, it has zero bearing. You aren't automatically correct because you "did a training", that doesn't support the position that you stated.

                            You are obviously proud of helping people, that is a great thing. I don't even disagree that most suicidal people just want attention, I disagree with the idea that we should listen to your opinions stated as facts unquestioned because of some unspecified training. You aren't being harassed here, you spouted utter bullshit, and when people politely pointed that out you got defensive. We didn't hunt you down to tell you you were wrong, you came to us. And while we are at it, thanks for the bonus straw man at the end there.

                            If you decide that you would like to come back to the table, I for one would love to hear your response to Arik's question.

                            ...That doesn't sound to me like someone that's going to be calling the hotline looking for an excuse to stop, it sounds like someone that may have made up his mind to leave, and my question was what gives you the right to assault them like that and force them to stay?

                            Did you have anything to say relevant to the context?

                            • (Score: 1, Flamebait) by cubancigar11 on Thursday February 15, @09:11PM (3 children)

                              by cubancigar11 (330) on Thursday February 15, @09:11PM (#638442) Homepage Journal

                              You keep repeating the word 'argument'. The only person arguing is you.

                              If you think this statement is 'flat untrue': "nobody has 'made up their mind' to commit suicide" then I am sorry to have messed up with your therapy. I cannot believe the so called nerdy website with apparently veteran slashdotters are saying that believing a over something I read over internet is 'appeal to authority'.

                              I don't even disagree that most suicidal people just want attention

                              People like you are the problem. First of you think that suicidal people are seeking attention, then you assign that statement to me. Fuck you! What are you talking about dude? Are you talking about yourself?

                              If you decide that you would like to come back to the table

                              The table is in your head. Do something to take it out and join the normal people.

                              • (Score: 2, Troll) by insanumingenium on Thursday February 15, @09:44PM (2 children)

                                by insanumingenium (4824) Subscriber Badge on Thursday February 15, @09:44PM (#638453)

                                You keep repeating the word 'argument'. The only person arguing is you.

                                You keep responding, and keep telling me I am wrong, call it what you want.

                                If you think this statement is 'flat untrue': "nobody has 'made up their mind' to commit suicide" then I am sorry to have messed up with your therapy. I cannot believe the so called nerdy website with apparently veteran slashdotters are saying that believing a over something I read over internet is 'appeal to authority'.

                                I am not sure what my therapy has to do with thinking that you can't make blanket statements about the intentions of every suicidal person ever. I am not sure what what second sentence was supposed to mean, but I don't know how to interpret you repeated comments about training and professors as anything other than an appeal to authority.

                                People like you are the problem. First of you think that suicidal people are seeking attention, then you assign that statement to me. Fuck you! What are you talking about dude? Are you talking about yourself?

                                You 100% have me here. I didn't mean to assign that statement to you, I was being overly casual with a common description of people lacking serious intent. That was an oversight on my part

                                What I was trying (poorly) to say was that you can not categorically deny that there are people with serious and reasoned intent to commit suicide. And no, I am not talking about myself, thanks for the concern.

                                The table is in your head. Do something to take it out and join the normal people.

                                Again, not 100% clear what that was supposed to mean. You keep responding, so I do, seems like we are having a discussion to me. I would still love to see your professional thoughts on Arik's question, I trust it would be more reasoned and meaningful than ad hominem attacks.

                                • (Score: 2) by cubancigar11 on Sunday February 18, @08:52PM (1 child)

                                  by cubancigar11 (330) on Sunday February 18, @08:52PM (#639808) Homepage Journal

                                  You keep repeating the word 'argument'. The only person arguing is you.

                                  You keep responding, and keep telling me I am wrong, call it what you want.

                                  Exactly, every conversation is an argument that you must win. Again, didn't read any further. Let me know if you find therapy helpful. tc

                                  • (Score: 2) by insanumingenium on Monday February 19, @04:28PM

                                    by insanumingenium (4824) Subscriber Badge on Monday February 19, @04:28PM (#640132)

                                    Exactly, every conversation is an argument that you must win. Again, didn't read any further. Let me know if you find therapy helpful. tc

                                    I don't see how that statement can apply to me any less than you. What you don't seem to get, I am not "winning" here, I am demonstrating that you are flat wrong, a process that will continue until you stop responding or repent of your idiocy. Still not sure who you expect to impress by claiming you aren't reading things.

                                    Also, thanks for all the troll tags, they make it 100% clear to all observers what is going on here.

                      • (Score: 2) by Reziac on Wednesday February 14, @07:06PM

                        by Reziac (2489) on Wednesday February 14, @07:06PM (#637779) Homepage

                        There's your problem!! ;)

                    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 15, @01:06PM

                      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 15, @01:06PM (#638211)

                      I've attempted suicide, I've been where the poison guy was. Saying he wanted attention was both correct and incorrect. I wasn't looking for publicity, I wanted someone to tell me I was worth it. I knew I was a scummy worthless piece of shit who didn't deserve to live. Everything I tried ended in failure and constantly being depressed only made the people around me uncomfortable. I needed someone I respected to tell me "Nope, you're actually ok and you won't be wasting a shrink's time if you talk with one nor would you be preventing them from saving someone who mattered instead of wasting time on you." I never got that so I poorly tried to kill myself. I didn't have enough enthusiasm in anything to do a good job at it.

                      The energy to kill yourself comes and goes, but the depression stays around (unless you're bi-polar).

                      So yes, may suicidal people crave some attention, but don't mistake attention for publicity. We'd more prefer a deeper connection than 15 minutes of fame. Of course everyone is a little different...

                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 14, @08:04AM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 14, @08:04AM (#637510)

                  Well for some it's just a temporary thing.

                  Just like when some people do stuff while they are on drugs (e.g. alcohol) that they wouldn't do at other times.

                  So when they've recovered they might go "Thanks for stopping me from doing that".

                  But if they still say "You shouldn't have stopped me" then the next time don't. To make it easier tell them to not do it while you're around.

                  There are people like this guy: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/7326304/City-executive-delayed-suicide-so-wife-could-claim-life-insurance.html [telegraph.co.uk]

                  They're quite sane, just "different" and you're not going to stop them short of infringing on their legal rights.

                • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 14, @04:26PM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 14, @04:26PM (#637648)

                  Fair enough, but what right do they have to force/trick someone else to help them?

                • (Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Wednesday February 14, @09:13PM (1 child)

                  by MichaelDavidCrawford (2339) Subscriber Badge <mdcrawford@gmail.com> on Wednesday February 14, @09:13PM (#637884) Homepage Journal

                  -ion.

                  Suppose you were unconscious due to a life-threatening concussion.

                  You have no way to give informed consent. Aren't the doctors who save your life committing a serious crime?

                  No, because all the lawyers assert that were you conscious you would grant that informed consent.

                  It's like that with suicidal minds. The law doesn't regard them as able to think objectively.

                  I attempted to do myself in in quite a spectacular way back in 2011. I spent some time in a mental hospital, then quite a long time at home when I wasn't able to do anything more ambitious than to lie on the couch.

                  Despite all that I have come to regard life as worth living, and the complete destruction of a perfectly good automobile as the price I paid to be taught this lesson.

                  --
                  "MICHAEL DAVID CRAWFORD IS A LYING MOTHERFUCKER."
                  -- Anonymous Coward
                  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Arik on Wednesday February 14, @09:59PM

                    by Arik (4543) on Wednesday February 14, @09:59PM (#637904)
                    "Suppose you were unconscious due to a life-threatening concussion.

                    You have no way to give informed consent. Aren't the doctors who save your life committing a serious crime?"

                    Not necessarily, no. There's a reasonable expectation in that case, barring evidence to the contrary, that the patient wants to live.

                    However, if they DO see such evidence and proceed anyway, then yes, that would be wrong. See http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc1713344

                    "No, because all the lawyers assert that were you conscious you would grant that informed consent."

                    No, that's not correct at all. No decent lawyer would make such an easily impeached claim. The claim instead is simply that the doctors are acting reasonably to infer that patients want to be treated since most people do, and there are adequate ways for someone that does not to make that desire known.

                    "Despite all that I have come to regard life as worth living, and the complete destruction of a perfectly good automobile as the price I paid to be taught this lesson."

                    That's your experience, and perfectly valid. But it's not everyone's experience. Assuming that everyone is going to have the same experience you did is... naïve? at best.

                    --
                    "If Evolution Is Outlawed, Only Outlaws Will Evolve."
            • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Friday February 16, @07:07AM

              by FatPhil (863) <pc-soylentNO@SPAMasdf.fi> on Friday February 16, @07:07AM (#638721) Homepage
              For the same reason death-by-cop is a thing.
              --
              The "free" in #freearistarchus is the "free" in "free jazz"
      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 14, @12:14AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 14, @12:14AM (#637355)

        Why did they not test the theory first in a controlled and safe experi....

        Oh wait, these are morons we are talking about here. Nevermind.

      • (Score: 2) by mrpg on Wednesday February 14, @12:44AM

        by mrpg (5708) Subscriber Badge <reversethis-{gro ... yos} {ta} {gprm}> on Wednesday February 14, @12:44AM (#637374)

        http://fortune.com/2017/12/21/youtube-stunt-manslaughter-plea-monalisa-perez/ [fortune.com]

        A 20-year-old mother of two has plead guilty to second-degree manslaughter in Minnesota, after a planned YouTube stunt ended in the death of her boyfriend. [...] According to a plea deal reached between prosecutors and the defense in the case, Perez would serve 180 days in jail and 10 years on probation. Perez’s sentence is likely to be finalized in February.

      • (Score: 2) by realDonaldTrump on Thursday February 15, @11:31PM

        by realDonaldTrump (6614) Subscriber Badge on Thursday February 15, @11:31PM (#638526) Homepage Journal

        We all have to make a living. And believe me, it's not easy being a star. People think it's easy, it's not. You do what you have to to keep your audience. You do what you have to do. And if I was @Schwarzenegger [twitter.com], a HASBEEN who took a very successful show and dragged the ratings into the TOILET -- I'm talking about New Celebrity Apprentice -- I'd get lots of Life Insurance. A good book. The biggest gun there is. And some fool to shoot it at me.

        --
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  • (Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 13, @07:30PM (7 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 13, @07:30PM (#637234)

    Not really sure why this is news. Lunatic with unhealthy obsession acts upon unhealthy obsession. Police intervene. Lunatic ends up dead, possibly by suicide (story doesn't make it clear).

    In other news, with over 7 billion people on this planet, it should come as no surprise that there's an ample supply of nutjobs.

    • (Score: 3, Informative) by insanumingenium on Tuesday February 13, @07:48PM

      by insanumingenium (4824) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday February 13, @07:48PM (#637240)

      Updated versions I have seen make it crystal clear that the cops killed him.

    • (Score: 3, Touché) by bob_super on Tuesday February 13, @07:49PM (1 child)

      by bob_super (1357) on Tuesday February 13, @07:49PM (#637241)

      To be linked to yesterday's article about "internet shouldn't be accessible to just anyone".

      [insert quip about encounter ending well for couple who didn't try to confront armed deranged asshole]

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 14, @12:28AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 14, @12:28AM (#637365)

        Don't fret. Ajit Pai is working on making the Internet inaccessible to more people.

        You're welcome.

    • (Score: 4, Funny) by takyon on Tuesday February 13, @08:01PM (1 child)

      by takyon (881) Subscriber Badge <reversethis-{gro ... s} {ta} {noykat}> on Tuesday February 13, @08:01PM (#637245) Journal

      It's a feel-good story about the ongoing positive impact of GooTube.

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      [SIG] 10/28/2017: Soylent Upgrade v14 [soylentnews.org]
      • (Score: 4, Insightful) by JoeMerchant on Tuesday February 13, @08:36PM

        by JoeMerchant (3937) on Tuesday February 13, @08:36PM (#637256)

        These people are paying the price of fame... unfortunately, YouTube ad rates don't provide enough income to cover a personal security staff (for the vast majority of content producers.)

    • (Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Wednesday February 14, @09:17PM

      by MichaelDavidCrawford (2339) Subscriber Badge <mdcrawford@gmail.com> on Wednesday February 14, @09:17PM (#637886) Homepage Journal

      One percent of the population is manic depressive, another one percent is schizophrenic.

      --
      "MICHAEL DAVID CRAWFORD IS A LYING MOTHERFUCKER."
      -- Anonymous Coward
    • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Saturday February 17, @04:16AM

      by FatPhil (863) <pc-soylentNO@SPAMasdf.fi> on Saturday February 17, @04:16AM (#639200) Homepage
      Yeah, but in all civilised countries in the world, crazy doesn't get given free access to firearms.
      --
      The "free" in #freearistarchus is the "free" in "free jazz"
  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Tuesday February 13, @08:14PM (21 children)

    I met someone like that once. It's the only time in my life that I've ever been frightened by a mentally ill person.

    He claimed that Britney Spears was in love with him. He carries a fancy leatherbound notebook in which he transcribes everything she says to him.

    He also claimed to be in Obama's inner circle.

    I tried to convince the police to admit him involuntarily. The cops can do that in California; perhaps they didn't think John Hinckley Jr's Evil Twin was such a big deal.

    When we first met I asked him to tell me the time. He said he was not authorized to tell me. My dad had a clearance, he was always making the same kind of jokes but in this guy's case I think he really thought the time was classified.

    --
    "MICHAEL DAVID CRAWFORD IS A LYING MOTHERFUCKER."
    -- Anonymous Coward
    • (Score: 4, Interesting) by JoeMerchant on Tuesday February 13, @08:46PM (19 children)

      by JoeMerchant (3937) on Tuesday February 13, @08:46PM (#637259)

      I had a job applicant who included his personal website on his resume. There, on the front page of the site, was a link to a journal of the applicant's personal MkUltra experiences as an involuntary test subject being secretly manipulated by the CIA, not portrayed in any way as fictional or humorous. Which leaves two distinct possibilities: 1) applicant is paranoid delusional, or 2) he's got a firm grip on reality and you definitely want nothing whatsoever to do with him (since, by his account, the CIA recruits additional involuntary/covert test subjects from the colleagues and acquaintances of existing subjects.)

      On a different tack, Sarah McLachlan has had a fair amount of stalker attention [wikipedia.org] too...

      • (Score: 5, Interesting) by srobert on Tuesday February 13, @08:55PM (16 children)

        by srobert (4803) on Tuesday February 13, @08:55PM (#637262)

        3) He wants to continue drawing unemployment insurance a while longer. He has to demonstrate to the state that he's actively seeking employment, so he filled out the app, but left you with a very good reason not to hire him.

        • (Score: 3, Informative) by JoeMerchant on Tuesday February 13, @09:00PM (15 children)

          by JoeMerchant (3937) on Tuesday February 13, @09:00PM (#637266)

          Like the punks in 80's London, sure - he could be dodging work, but it would have been pretty easy to miss also... not every hiring manager checks personal websites, and even if you do, it was just one link off the front page - the rest of the front page and several other sections looked reasonably non-paranoid, and yet consistent with the stories told on the MkUltra page.

          One thing about U.S. unemployment benefits, they are so pitifully small that it's hardly worth scamming the system. Some days when I was collecting unemployment I wondered if it was really worth the distraction from actual job searching - all the reporting requirements and other BS just to get a check that doesn't even cover an average mortgage payment.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 13, @09:52PM (5 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 13, @09:52PM (#637284)

            Mortgage? Ahahahahahaha
            In Australia it may not even cover rent.

            • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 13, @10:09PM (1 child)

              by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 13, @10:09PM (#637297)

              In the US, rent is usually more expensive than a mortgage.

              • (Score: 2) by Reziac on Wednesday February 14, @06:28AM

                by Reziac (2489) on Wednesday February 14, @06:28AM (#637484) Homepage

                If all you count is the mortgage, yeah. If you count in property tax, insurance, and maintenance, owning is about half-again more expensive than renting.

                Apartment buildings hit economy of scale; but single-family rentals, unless already owned free-and-clear, typically make money only when they're finally sold.

            • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Wednesday February 14, @12:44PM (2 children)

              by JoeMerchant (3937) on Wednesday February 14, @12:44PM (#637570)

              Fun fact about the US economy: if you can afford rent, you can afford a mortgage. Rent is more flexible, just 12 month leases - when you mortgage you basically hand over first, last and two or three additional months' rent deposit for the transaction, but then the monthly payment is roughly the same (often less) for similar housing. Rented places tend to be smaller, and therefore cheaper, but if you're comparing 1800sf to 1800sf in a similar neighborhood... it's usually cheaper per month to own, long term.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 14, @11:44PM (1 child)

                by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 14, @11:44PM (#637956)

                A fair number of my friends are millenials who can't afford homes. The issue isn't the loan payment - It's the downpayment. They have enough income to afford the monthly payment, but not enough to accumulate the downpayment in a reasonable period of time.

                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 15, @01:14PM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 15, @01:14PM (#638216)

                  Almost everyone only needs a 3.5% down payment and there are other programs for 0% down. If you can afford the monthly payments, then if you put a little time into research and contacting banks you can get a house. You can even ask sellers for seller financing which could get you no down payment and no bank fees.

          • (Score: 4, Insightful) by mhajicek on Tuesday February 13, @10:20PM

            by mhajicek (51) on Tuesday February 13, @10:20PM (#637300)

            I'm sure that's intentional. Since only those collecting unemployment benefits officially count as unemployment it helps them claim record low unemployment even though we have the lowest labor force participation rate since the 70's at the same time.

          • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 13, @10:47PM (7 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 13, @10:47PM (#637315)

            One thing about U.S. unemployment benefits, they are so pitifully small that it's hardly worth scamming the system. Some days when I was collecting unemployment I wondered if it was really worth the distraction from actual job searching - all the reporting requirements and other BS just to get a check that doesn't even cover an average mortgage payment.

            When on unemployment (after a RIF [urbandictionary.com]) in the US, I was required to attend an "orientation" with a bunch (20 or so) of other poor suckers.

            I noted to the fellow running the meeting that the money being doled out was insufficient to cover rent (I was receiving the maximum possible amount, a percentage of what your weekly compensation had been, up to a maximum of a few hundred dollars). He stated that unemployment benefits weren't there as a replacement for income, rather it was available so you didn't starve. Well, at least for the 26 weeks that unemployment covered.

            There are also a host of restrictions on who is allowed to collect unemployment [thebalance.com], even though in most states there's an involuntary payroll deduction (check your pay stub, it's usually something like SUI/DIS or the like) to cover the costs of the program.

            Note that I was receiving the maximum amount. I don't remember exactly, but even the maximum was just a few hundred dollars a week. The calculation (IIRC) was something like 50% of your weekly compensation, up to a maximum of $300 or so.

            • (Score: 1, Disagree) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 13, @10:59PM (4 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 13, @10:59PM (#637319)

              Few hundred dollars a week? If your total rent, food, and bus fare costs more than $1,000 a month, you need to move or get a job.

              • (Score: 4, Informative) by insanumingenium on Tuesday February 13, @11:07PM

                by insanumingenium (4824) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday February 13, @11:07PM (#637325)

                Fun fact about people on unemployment. They HAD a job, and by the letter of the law are usually required to have lost it through no fault of their own, and are usually required to be looking for a new one. Moving when you can't make ends meet anymore is quite difficult. Since they don't cap my contribution to unemployment insurance, I am not sure how they get off capping my benefits from it.

              • (Score: 4, Informative) by ants_in_pants on Tuesday February 13, @11:42PM

                by ants_in_pants (6665) on Tuesday February 13, @11:42PM (#637336)

                the places where living is cheap are generally also low on available jobs.

                --
                -Love, ants_in_pants
              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 14, @12:43AM

                by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 14, @12:43AM (#637373)

                Few hundred dollars a week? If your total rent, food, and bus fare costs more than $1,000 a month, you need to move or get a job.

                Original AC here.

                I realize you're trying to be humorous. So we'll add to the joke with some statistics [deptofnumbers.com]:

                Median monthly gross residential rent in the United States was $959 in 2015 according to the Census ACS survey.1 Average gross rent was $1,021 in 2015. Median rent more accurately depicts rental rates in the middle of the distribution of rents than average rent and is thus preferred in the analysis below. 2016 US median and average rent data will be released in September of 2017.

                Also note that when one was (and had been for more than a decade) earning a six-figure annual salary and that's then cut to about 10%, bad things can happen unless one has significant savings (fortunately for me, I had such savings and chose to start my own business rather than go back to work for someone else).

              • (Score: 2) by Reziac on Wednesday February 14, @06:30AM

                by Reziac (2489) on Wednesday February 14, @06:30AM (#637485) Homepage

                Problem is, no one wants to rent to the unemployed. (At least, if they're not eligible for Section 8.)

            • (Score: 3, Informative) by Phoenix666 on Wednesday February 14, @09:49AM

              by Phoenix666 (552) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday February 14, @09:49AM (#637535) Journal

              The funniest part about unemployment, is that the government taxes even that pitiful amount, such that you are left with an even more pitiful amount. It's Kafka-esque.

              --
              Washington DC delenda est.
            • (Score: 2) by VLM on Thursday February 15, @02:10PM

              by VLM (445) Subscriber Badge on Thursday February 15, @02:10PM (#638237)

              Note that I was receiving the maximum amount. I don't remember exactly, but even the maximum was just a few hundred dollars a week.

              I thought for sure this was a "starve the beast" policy where they used to pay $300 in the olden days and they're eliminating the program by freezing the rates since 1970. Which may be true. However I was surprised when I googled and the Federal Dept of Labor has a 75th anniversary celebration PR flyer explaining the first dude to get a check was in august 1936 for $15 in Wisconsin, so I go to the BLS.gov inflation calculator and that $15 in 36 is worth $265.57 today but everyone knows the numbers are fake so its probably closer to three hundred something, then google wisconsin unemployment and the max payment today is $370 per week, how about that? Rate today is the same adjusted for inflation as the rate in 1936... Its never paid very much.

              I suspect a lot of fraud where its kinda a subsidy for non-W2 cash-only jobs. So if you're a bartender with a liberal arts degree you get some help.

      • (Score: 3, Funny) by EvilSS on Tuesday February 13, @10:20PM (1 child)

        by EvilSS (1456) on Tuesday February 13, @10:20PM (#637301)
        So... did he get the job?
    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 13, @11:16PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 13, @11:16PM (#637329)

      Thanks for having pizza with me. It’s interesting to see how other men don’t have armies of females after them. Valentine’s Day will be complicated for me!

  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 13, @10:31PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 13, @10:31PM (#637309)

    For example, put on gas masks and then release or generate toxic gas. Simple and cheap ones with slow/painful effects: chlorine, sulfur dioxide, ammonia, ozone. The chlorine is probably least harmful to electronics, so maybe go with that.

    Another option is animals. He could get ripped apart by a half dozen large dogs or pigs.

    The hazardous option, bringing more intensity to the video stream, is direct human conflict. Consider a chainsaw, compound bow, or grass edger.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 14, @06:47AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 14, @06:47AM (#637493)

    What is the difference between insane in American and most of the rest of the world? In America, they have guns.

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by VLM on Wednesday February 14, @01:06PM (5 children)

    by VLM (445) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday February 14, @01:06PM (#637574)

    Turney, 30, was made famous through her video blogs on anime, relationship advice and her life.

    Its interesting what passes for famous in the modern world. Apparently if you're sort of a soft core cam-girl, then having less than one thousandth the population of the USA subscribe and watch, or since male admiration of boobs on youtube is international, less than two thousandths of the world population subscribed makes someone "famous" now a days. Fascinating.

    Obviously this isn't a real problem, its just legacy media propaganda about their competition ruining lives. Its the 80s DnD scare all over again.

    • (Score: 2) by nobu_the_bard on Wednesday February 14, @05:12PM (1 child)

      by nobu_the_bard (6373) on Wednesday February 14, @05:12PM (#637674)

      It's possible to be a "celebrity" but only to a subset of the population. Lots of people probably don't know who Hideo Kojima, American McGee, Sid Meier, or Keiji Inafune are, but to certain groups of people they are well known.

      • (Score: 2) by VLM on Thursday February 15, @01:41PM

        by VLM (445) Subscriber Badge on Thursday February 15, @01:41PM (#638226)

        Its the unity of purpose issue. At least 99% of people who do know Sid know him as a legendary computer game programmer, but if you wikipedia him you'll find he plays the organ and sings pretty well. His almost universal sole individual public identity is game programmer.

        On the other hand "anime, relationship advice and her life" is kind of a WTF is that exactly?

    • (Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Wednesday February 14, @09:21PM (2 children)

      by MichaelDavidCrawford (2339) Subscriber Badge <mdcrawford@gmail.com> on Wednesday February 14, @09:21PM (#637887) Homepage Journal

      I introduced a bill in the student senate to establish the Wargamer's Club so we could all get together for DnD.

      The principal heard about this and asked me in for a private chat. He would not permit the formation of the club until I got him to believe we weren't all going to kill ourselves.

      Around that same time - during high school - I asked my mom to give me a lift to a neighboring city so I could play Dungeons And Dragons with an adult man. Mom freaked, she never would say but I expect she thought that the dungeon was in a BDSM parlor.

      --
      "MICHAEL DAVID CRAWFORD IS A LYING MOTHERFUCKER."
      -- Anonymous Coward
      • (Score: 2) by VLM on Thursday February 15, @02:00PM (1 child)

        by VLM (445) Subscriber Badge on Thursday February 15, @02:00PM (#638232)

        On a quick errand to buy some paint, I took my elderly MiL to the FLGS and she sees the tables and junk food trash and a DnD group rolling dice and asks in her old lady voice, "Is this place a gambling den?", which was good comic relief.

        As a laugh, I suppose if I were setting up a real illegal gambling den, the back room of a FLGS would be my first choice. Some snitch reports seeing card players, the police laugh and ask WTF do you think happens at friday night magic at a FLGS?

        Sometimes I think public schools should lay off the intense semester long stuff like "Woodworking I" (and I say this despite being a hobby woodworker...) and require some kind of hobby experience class where everyone gets at least a brief introduction to, well, every hobby. If you're gonna do "universal basic income" in one form or another it would be a public service to show kids some useful stuff to do. Broaden their horizons.

        Sometimes I fell into the hobbies I enjoy and sometimes there's crazy overlap (something like 90% of ham radio guys have called themselves amateur photographers at one time in their lives, for example, so virtually all hams know what a Pentax K1000 is (was?) I had one a long time ago...) I wonder whats out there that I've never even heard of. Anecdotally when the cub scouts visited the archery range, perhaps 10% of the boys actively bow hunted and the other 90% had never touched a bow or arrow.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 14, @07:44PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 14, @07:44PM (#637818)

    i don't know why tom green was hiding in the closet. i guess his ironic sweater had used all of it's magic up...

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