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posted by takyon on Tuesday February 20 2018, @06:42PM   Printer-friendly

Lauri Love case: US abandons extradition case

Efforts to extradite alleged computer hacker Lauri Love have been abandoned by US authorities.

[...] Mr Love said he may help UK investigators to bring charges to get the case "over and done with".

American authorities confirmed they will not fight a High Court decision to block Mr Love's extradition to the US, on the grounds it would be "oppressive". A Crown Prosecution Service spokesman confirmed Mr Love will not be extradited.

Also at Bloomberg and The Hill.

Previously: Lauri Love to be Extradited to the U.S.
Lauri Love's Appeal Will be Heard in the UK on November 28th and 29th
Cracking Suspect Lauri Love Wins Appeal Against Extradition to US


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Lauri Love to be Extradited to the U.S. 27 comments

BBC reports:

An autistic man suspected of hacking into US government computer systems is to be extradited from Britain to face trial, a court has ruled. Lauri Love, 31, who has Asperger's Syndrome, is accused of hacking into the FBI, the US central bank and the country's missile defence agency. Mr Love, from Stradishall, Suffolk, has previously said he feared he would die in a US prison if he was extradited.

Also at Ars Technica , The Guardian , and Reuters . Here is the judgment against Love (PDF).


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Politics: Lauri Love's Appeal Will be Heard in the UK on November 28th and 29th 27 comments

Lauri Love[*], in the UK, is facing extradition requests from three separate US court districts and a potential 99 year prison sentence for his alleged involvement in the online protests that followed the death of Aaron Swartz. Depsite no evidence offered by the US, the British courts have preliminarily agreed to extradition and his appeal will be on the 28th and 29th of November. Again, no evidence has been presented against him, but if he were tried in the UK he would be facing a maximum of 32 months in prison, not 99 years as the US is aiming for.

[*] According to Wikipedia's entry for Lauri Love:

Lauri Love is a Finnish-British activist charged extraterritorially with stealing data from United States Government computers including the US Army, Missile Defense Agency, and NASA via computer intrusion.

Previously: Lauri Love to be Extradited to the U.S.


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Cracking Suspect Lauri Love Wins Appeal Against Extradition to US 44 comments

The UK high court has finally ruled on the extradition of Lauri Love, the Finnish-British student accused of cracking U.S. government websites. He will not be extradited to face trial in America. The court accepted both of the main arguments that there is no reason he cannot not be tried in England and that he might suffer serious damage to his health if he were extradited.

Source: Hacking Suspect Lauri Love Wins Appeal Against Extradition to US

Previously: Lauri Love to be Extradited to the U.S.
Lauri Love's Appeal Will be Heard in the UK on November 28th and 29th


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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by DannyB on Tuesday February 20 2018, @07:59PM (14 children)

    by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday February 20 2018, @07:59PM (#640807) Journal

    What could possibly be oppressive about extraditing someone to the land where we have:

    Secret Laws
    Secret Interpretations of Laws
    Secret Courts
    Secret Warrants
    Secret Court Orders
    Secret Arrests
    Secret Trials
    Secret Evidence (not made available to the defense, and "parallel construction"1)
    Secret Convictions
    Secret Prisons
    Secret "enhanced interrogation" programs

    Just as God intended when he gave US citizens, and ONLY US citizens inalienable rights.

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    1parallel construction is a euphemism for conspiracy of law enforcement and prosecutor to commit perjury before the court by concealing the actual evidence that was used to build the case; the very existence of this evidence has been withheld from the defense.

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    • (Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 20 2018, @08:15PM (7 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 20 2018, @08:15PM (#640815)

      Would be nice if the extradition was denied on any of the grounds you've listed, but alas he just escaped the grip of the US justice system cause he's an aspie.

      • (Score: 4, Insightful) by frojack on Tuesday February 20 2018, @08:41PM (6 children)

        by frojack (1554) on Tuesday February 20 2018, @08:41PM (#640825) Journal

        And severe eczema. Nobody knows how to treat that in the US.

        He'd rather be prosecuted in his own country where they have:
        Secret Laws
        Secret Interpretations of Laws
        Secret Courts
        Secret Warrants
        Secret Court Orders
        Secret Arrests
        Secret Trials
        Secret Evidence (not made available to the defense, and "parallel construction"1)
        Secret Convictions
        Secret Prisons
        Secret "enhanced interrogation" programs

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 20 2018, @08:47PM (2 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 20 2018, @08:47PM (#640833)

          At least in his own country he's a citizen instead of a dirty furriner :/

          • (Score: 2) by frojack on Tuesday February 20 2018, @09:06PM (1 child)

            by frojack (1554) on Tuesday February 20 2018, @09:06PM (#640850) Journal

            Yeah, because he might actually spend jail time in the UK,
            but in the US he would in all likelihood be set free, as long as he's not from Mexico. [bop.gov]

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            • (Score: 2) by HiThere on Tuesday February 20 2018, @10:58PM

              by HiThere (866) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday February 20 2018, @10:58PM (#640918) Journal

              Somehow that's not *his* estimation of the probabilities.

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        • (Score: 2) by sjames on Wednesday February 21 2018, @12:27AM (2 children)

          by sjames (2882) on Wednesday February 21 2018, @12:27AM (#640955) Journal

          At least in the U.K. they pay more than lip service to the obligation to provide adequate physical and mental healthcare to prisoners. I'm not sure if the UK is better or worse than the U.S. as far as a right to council goes.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 21 2018, @03:22PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 21 2018, @03:22PM (#641177)
            Like this? [imdb.com]
          • (Score: 2) by Yog-Yogguth on Wednesday February 21 2018, @06:20PM

            by Yog-Yogguth (1862) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday February 21 2018, @06:20PM (#641295) Journal

            Depending on whether you convert? Safe assumption.

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    • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 20 2018, @08:47PM (3 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 20 2018, @08:47PM (#640832)

      You forgot a few things in your list Danny:

      PMITA prisons
      Prison slavery [nationalreview.com]
      A long history of prosecutorial misconduct and bullying to elicit guilty pleas (including Alford [wikipedia.org] pleas)
      A long history of wrongful convictions for a variety of reasons

      • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Tuesday February 20 2018, @08:57PM (2 children)

        by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday February 20 2018, @08:57PM (#640843) Journal

        Thanks.

        For-Profit prisons bring problems, including prison slavery. But as long as they keep shareholders happy, it's all good.

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        • (Score: 2) by frojack on Tuesday February 20 2018, @09:09PM (1 child)

          by frojack (1554) on Tuesday February 20 2018, @09:09PM (#640852) Journal

          Good thing that can't happen in the UK. [vice.com]

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          • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Tuesday February 20 2018, @09:26PM

            by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday February 20 2018, @09:26PM (#640859) Journal

            If even some prisoners were rehabilitated, this could have a negative effect on revenue and therefore executive bonuses for those prisons.

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    • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 20 2018, @10:06PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 20 2018, @10:06PM (#640886)

      And how many of those things actually applied in this case? What's more a lot of that stuff applies even more so in the UK. In the UK they have things like super injunctions where not only can the parties involved not say anything about it, but nobody else can either and nobody really knows what those things are that they can't talk about unless it's brought to the attention of the courts.

      The US has issues, but it's dishonest to suggest that those things you list are typical. None of them would apply in this case as he's not a terrorist.

    • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 21 2018, @03:54AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 21 2018, @03:54AM (#641022)

      "Just as God intended when he gave US citizens, and ONLY US citizens inalienable rights."

      Unless of course you live within 100 miles of the border in those "constitution free zones".

  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Adamsjas on Tuesday February 20 2018, @09:26PM (2 children)

    by Adamsjas (4507) on Tuesday February 20 2018, @09:26PM (#640860)

    UK: Ok, US, we did as you asked and kept warrant out for Assange.
    US: We see that, Thank you very much. We will forget about your guy.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 20 2018, @10:03PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 20 2018, @10:03PM (#640882)

      Possibly, or more likely, they realized that this wasn't going anywhere and that getting the UK to cooperate wasn't going to happen.

      This is one of the reasons why cybercrime continues to be a problem, crimes are often treated like they happened abroad even when the victims are domestic. Which means that even if the perpetrator is brought in for trial, the prosecutor has little incentive to take the matter seriously as the damage was done abroad.

      • (Score: 2) by Yog-Yogguth on Wednesday February 21 2018, @06:29PM

        by Yog-Yogguth (1862) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday February 21 2018, @06:29PM (#641298) Journal

        Their only choice is to arrest the guilty electrons at the border crossing, nothing else is viable in the long run.

        It's a Schrödzinger: both a joke and not a joke.

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  • (Score: 3, Informative) by DannyB on Tuesday February 20 2018, @09:31PM

    by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday February 20 2018, @09:31PM (#640862) Journal

    From Wikipedia

    Love is under indictment in the United States (2013 in District of New Jersey, 2014 in Southern District of New York and Eastern District of Virginia) for allegedly "breaching thousands of computer systems in the United States and elsewhere – including the computer networks of federal agencies – to steal massive quantities of confidential data"

    and

    He has dual citizenship of the United Kingdom and Finland.

    It sounds like the either of those countries could use his services if he wishes employment.

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  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 21 2018, @01:44AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 21 2018, @01:44AM (#640981)

    Frankly, the most surprising thing about this whole thing to me is that BBC announcers didn't butcher the pronunciation of his name like they do with every other non-English name. I go into a rage damn near every time I listen to those bastards.

    • (Score: 2) by Yog-Yogguth on Wednesday February 21 2018, @06:31PM

      by Yog-Yogguth (1862) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday February 21 2018, @06:31PM (#641301) Journal

      40-all?

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