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posted by janrinok on Sunday March 11 2018, @03:55AM   Printer-friendly
from the Sexy-Einstein dept.

From The New York Times:

"Reports that the first lady, Melania Trump, received an immigrant visa reserved for "individuals with extraordinary ability" in 2001, when she was a model, have thrust the EB-1 visa program into the spotlight. The news, first reported by The Washington Post, raised questions about whether Mrs. Trump had truly qualified for the visa.

But several immigration lawyers rebuffed those questions, saying the requirements for the EB-1 immigrant visa leave far more room for interpretation than its nickname and its best-and-brightest reputation suggest."

"The notion that you somehow have to be a genius or Einstein is utter fiction, said Chris Wright, a lawyer based in Los Angeles. We have succeeded with models no more accomplished than Melania Trump."

"Elissa Taub, a lawyer in Memphis who secured the EB-1 for [a] German gymnast, said that some of her denials burn me to this day, like that of a nuclear astrophysicist who had produced groundbreaking work at a national lab. Immigration officials said his title on the job was not senior enough to merit the EB-1.

We lost a great scientific mind due to this crazy decision, she said of the scholar, who returned to India.

In another case, U.S.C.I.S. acknowledged that a Chinese researcher had fulfilled three criteria to qualify, but that scientists who have risen to the very top of the field have garnered citations numbered in the thousands, not in the hundreds, as he had shown. He was denied."

Nothing like the best and the brightest, right?


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  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 11 2018, @04:09AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 11 2018, @04:09AM (#650759)

    You can live in this place if you can pay your own way.

    Capitalism. One day we'll try it.

    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by TheRaven on Monday March 12 2018, @08:43AM

      by TheRaven (270) on Monday March 12 2018, @08:43AM (#651254) Journal

      This is more or less what Switzerland does. They just charge a lot for permanent residence and require a minimum salary for work visas. This makes Switzerland quite attractive for a number of companies. Google has a big office in Zurich, for example, because it's easy for anyone from the EU or USA to get a work visa on their salary.

      To be honest, I don't really see why you were marked as a troll. If you make the visa requirements a salary a certain number of standard deviations above the mean, then you'll get people that someone is willing to pay above the odds for, and those are the ones that you want to let in.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 11 2018, @04:22AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 11 2018, @04:22AM (#650763)

    S/T.

  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 11 2018, @04:26AM (9 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 11 2018, @04:26AM (#650766)

    Let's get the easy one out of the way. Supermodels are good to have. They make a positive contribution to the gene pool and bilk rich people out of their money, stimulating the economy.

    Chinese researchers have to be carefully screened, since they could be here to sell secrets back to China.

    Other researchers should be let in, almost without exception.

    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 11 2018, @04:35AM (8 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 11 2018, @04:35AM (#650771)

      It sounds like a good idea to have all the smart people of the world come to the U.S. and MAGA.

      However, that is only the outcome that is seen; what about the outcome that is unseen, or at least less obvious?

      Brain Drain.

      If those smart people leave their countries of origin to make America smart again, then they are in fact hastening the idiocracy of their home countries. The dumber those countries become, the worse a problem they'll be for their neighbors and ultimately the world: They'll be the source of epidemics and societal decay, and out of the collapse of their once functioning societies will rise not just tyrannical warlords, but terrorists whose messages appeal only to the thick skulled.

      Just look at the Muslim world; not only have their smartest fled to the West, but their religious approval of first-cousin marriages have led to a statistically significant decline in IQ levels to the point that they are beginning to reach the level at which criminality is almost guaranteed. Is it any wonder that they are now such a menace to the Civilized world?

      Smart people should stay in their countries of origin and help to make them great again.

      • (Score: 0, Troll) by Ethanol-fueled on Sunday March 11 2018, @06:04AM (1 child)

        by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Sunday March 11 2018, @06:04AM (#650784) Homepage

        " We lost a great scientific mind due to this crazy decision, she said of the scholar, who returned to India. "

        I would have been angry at reading this until the last word of the above sentence was mentioned. Plagiarized research, nepotism from others like the "scholar" who did manage to get a foothold here, incompetence, rudeness, arrogance...and coming from a fat American pig, that's a pretty big insult.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 11 2018, @05:55PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 11 2018, @05:55PM (#650986)

          Sometimes how you treat the world directly affects how the world treats you. If you see an asshole in the morning maybe its an addhole, if you see ten more before lunch maybe you are the asshole.

          With your extensive racism I think there is a safe conclusion here.

      • (Score: 3, Funny) by Kawumpa on Sunday March 11 2018, @09:28AM (3 children)

        by Kawumpa (1187) on Sunday March 11 2018, @09:28AM (#650863)

        Current evidence suggests that the US may actually need the rest of the world's best and brightest to reach the global average again... Those who aren't killed in school may not be able to afford higher education, letting the nation's education level slip from past heights.

      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Grishnakh on Sunday March 11 2018, @02:48PM (1 child)

        by Grishnakh (2831) on Sunday March 11 2018, @02:48PM (#650924)

        There isn't much smart people can do in those countries to make them great. These smart people are good at science usually, not at shooting people, and the only way countries that bad are going to be made great is through a violent coup. A bunch of scientists aren't going to help you much here: they're not good at fighting, they're generally not military experts, and they're also pretty infamous for not being very socially adept so they're not going to be effective at helping to build an organization to further their goals. The best thing for people like that to do is to find an environment that's most livable for them.

        • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 11 2018, @05:59PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 11 2018, @05:59PM (#650989)

          I think this is more a result of humanity's continuing evolution. As our culture develops people will hopefully begin to value knowledge over bullshit that triggers our instinctual responses.

  • (Score: 4, Funny) by realDonaldTrump on Sunday March 11 2018, @04:26AM (10 children)

    by realDonaldTrump (6614) on Sunday March 11 2018, @04:26AM (#650767) Homepage Journal

    Believe me, I've been with the best women. Models, actresses -- regular and porn -- all kinds. And Melania has the most amazing skills. So many times, I covered my eyes. Because they were getting ready to pop out of their sockets! 🙈

    • (Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 11 2018, @04:30AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 11 2018, @04:30AM (#650770)

      If she was sucking on your eyes, someone is doing it wrong.

    • (Score: 3, Informative) by captain normal on Sunday March 11 2018, @06:05AM (8 children)

      by captain normal (2205) on Sunday March 11 2018, @06:05AM (#650786)

      You coveted your own daughter? Whew...don't know about you, are you really that weird, or you on drugs?
      Back on topic: Getting an EB-! visa is apparently easy if your dad contributes big money to G.W. Bush and parties with the likes of General Powell.

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 11 2018, @07:10AM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 11 2018, @07:10AM (#650811)

        You want a pretty daughter, right? She ought to resemble the mom, who you hopefully thought was pretty enough to fuck. She ought to resemble the family you come from, which hopefully you don't dislike.

        The only things holding you back from fucking your daughter should be:

        1. you're married (to her mom, obviously)
        2. you want the best for your daughter, which is probably a man 3 to 8 years older than her (you didn't fuck her mom when you were 7, did you?)
        3. possible legal troubles
        4. you haven't asked, I hope

        If your daughter is ugly... sorry to hear that.

        • (Score: 1) by Ethanol-fueled on Sunday March 11 2018, @07:45AM

          by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Sunday March 11 2018, @07:45AM (#650823) Homepage

          Hey, now wait a minute. Sarah Sharp is somebody's daughter and she is ugly in more ways than one, and she went on to be a Kernel Developer!

          Oh, wait. I stand corrected.

      • (Score: 2, Funny) by realDonaldTrump on Sunday March 11 2018, @08:03AM (5 children)

        by realDonaldTrump (6614) on Sunday March 11 2018, @08:03AM (#650835) Homepage Journal

        Melania is my wife. I thought everybody knew. And for a Christian or a Jew, for a Muslim or a Catholic, it's OK to covet your own wife. For a Hindu. Maybe, probably not for a Buddhist. Your neighbor's wife, that can be a problem. But we've all done it, right? I mean, are we babies?

        And I did say I'd like to date my daughter, obviously I was joking. I was on television. When you do television, you have to keep folks entertained. Or the ratings go down the tubes. I'm very entertaining, I bring tremendous ratings. Even if I go on a show that was terrible. And will go back to being terrible after I leave.

        • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Ethanol-fueled on Sunday March 11 2018, @09:08AM (4 children)

          by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Sunday March 11 2018, @09:08AM (#650861) Homepage

          It is difficult for most to reconcile the fact that Arnold Schwarzenegger was elected Governor of California and you were elected President of the United States of America. Same principles and rationale, different Jewish media. The media hate you much more than they hate him, even though he was also a womanizer and unlike you he has more publicly-known illegitimate babies and with much uglier women.

          How can you talk to California in a way which makes it not hate you more? I live in California and ask myself that question every second of every day.

          • (Score: 2, Insightful) by realDonaldTrump on Sunday March 11 2018, @10:53AM (3 children)

            by realDonaldTrump (6614) on Sunday March 11 2018, @10:53AM (#650882) Homepage Journal

            California, as everybody knows, is part of our Country. And without a Border, we don't have a Country. On Tuesday I'll be visiting San Diego. Otay Mesa. It's a very important visit. Because I'm going to be inspecting the prototypes for the Wall. To see which ones are good -- hopefully we've got some good ones -- and which ones, maybe, are not so good. I encourage my supporters to be there, people are going to remember this for a long time. Because we have 8 prototypes. But we're not going to build 8 walls, it's going to be 1 Wall. Very big contract, very big project. And maybe I'll announce the winner. Come and find out!

            Then I'm off to Beverly Hills for what's going to be, I'm sure, a tremendous fund raiser. For our Republican Party, we're getting more and more Republicans elected in California. And that's going to happen even more once we build the Wall.

            Very excited because this is my first visit to California since I took office. I've been there before. I had some great rallies there, as you know. Because of you, partly because of you. I thank you for coming. I really thought I would win California. But your elections are very crooked, a lot of voter fraud goes on there. It didn't matter. Because I had tremendous support from the rest of our Country. And so many folks who didn't support me are seeing what a great job I'm doing. And they'll be with me in 2020.

            I have some property there, Trump National Golf Club Los Angeles. The best golf course on the West Coast. And I have so many friends in the industry. Movies, television. Very important that we protect our movies & TV. Also music. Because if those go down the drain, economically, they'll take California & New York with them. And we can't afford for those states to become more of a burden than they already are. Our military, I love what California builds for our military. The military contractors, so important. And we have some huge military bases out there. Where we test our ICBMs. And many things.

            California, maybe you saw the new numbers on that bullet train. Where it's going to cost over $77 billion. If they build it. They started building it, it doesn't go to the cities. It's supposed to go to San Francisco, it doesn't go to San Francisco. It's supposed to go to Los Angeles, it doesn't go to Los Angeles. Anaheim, maybe they started in Anaheim, right? Sorry, Anaheim. It goes from a little farming town to a little farming town. I love the farmers, they did so much to elect me. But they don't need a bullet train, it's very foolish. It's taking a very long time to build, and very big expense, because they have too many regulations. They're talking about, maybe they'll finish it in 2050. They're paying for it with a carbon tax. Which they don't call a tax, they call it cap and trade. But it's a tax, believe me. And that tax is killing the economy in California.

            If you have cell phone, please sign up for my text messages. My mobile alerts. The info is at the bottom of my tweet. I promise you won't get a lot. Your phone won't blow up. But when I'm coming to your area you'll know. And I'm coming next week!

            • (Score: 3, Insightful) by wonkey_monkey on Sunday March 11 2018, @07:46PM (2 children)

              by wonkey_monkey (279) on Sunday March 11 2018, @07:46PM (#651030) Homepage

              You just wrote six large paragraphs while sticking broadly to same subject. Now I know you're a phoney. A big fat phoney!

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              • (Score: 2) by arcz on Monday March 12 2018, @09:43PM (1 child)

                by arcz (4501) on Monday March 12 2018, @09:43PM (#651541) Journal

                I think it was obvious he was fake from some of his earlier comments.
                This guy is getting a bit better at trolling though...

                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 03 2018, @12:36PM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 03 2018, @12:36PM (#661915)

                  His grammar is way above that of a 5th grader.
                  And he does not have the best words.
                  SAD.

  • (Score: 5, Funny) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday March 11 2018, @04:29AM

    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Sunday March 11 2018, @04:29AM (#650769) Journal

    They are willing to do jobs no American wants to do. In this case, being Donald Trump's wife. I really feel sorry for her.

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  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 11 2018, @06:56AM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 11 2018, @06:56AM (#650807)

    Regardless of what you think of Donny, she was talented enough to become the First Lady. How is that not an extraordinary level of ability?
    On average, only one american women manages that every four years, With 160 million american women, the yearly odds of becoming first lady is one in 640 million.
    Achieving that is pretty damn special.

    • (Score: 3, Informative) by bob_super on Sunday March 11 2018, @07:13AM (2 children)

      by bob_super (1357) on Sunday March 11 2018, @07:13AM (#650813)

      The average presidential term is actually about 5.09 years (45 presidents in 229 years), making the odds even lower than you say. I'm not gonna search how many had more than one official First Lady.

      • (Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Sunday March 11 2018, @08:01AM (1 child)

        by MichaelDavidCrawford (2339) Subscriber Badge <mdcrawford@gmail.com> on Sunday March 11 2018, @08:01AM (#650832) Homepage Journal

        -e.

        Neither did he spend it with Marilyn Monroe.

        This according to the Secret Service, but they didn't supply any details.

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        • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 11 2018, @08:58AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 11 2018, @08:58AM (#650856)

          The secret service probably threw together a special presidential drunk tank until he sobered up.

  • (Score: 0, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 11 2018, @07:00AM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 11 2018, @07:00AM (#650809)

    Had this physicist swam across the Mexican border, he'd have been on the the fast track to amnesty and citizenship.

    • (Score: 1) by Ethanol-fueled on Sunday March 11 2018, @07:50AM (1 child)

      by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Sunday March 11 2018, @07:50AM (#650826) Homepage

      Dolph Lundgren could swim across the Mexican border but he wouldn't pass the American diversity test.

      American employers ask a lot of questions, but there are a few pages in particular which seem out of order from the rest. The first is gender identity ("male," "female," or "decline to answer." The second is disability, which is a yes/no question although examples (missing limb, PTSD, bipolar, schizo, etc.) are provided. The third is diversity, and it asks you specifically what kind of diversity you are from a choice of 6 or 7ish.

      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by c0lo on Sunday March 11 2018, @01:13PM

        by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Sunday March 11 2018, @01:13PM (#650909) Journal

        The second is disability, which is a yes/no question although examples (missing limb, PTSD, bipolar, schizo, etc.) are provided.

        One needs to be out of their mind to want to immigrate in US tpday, so that question should be already ticked in the form. For efficiency reasons.

        (grin)

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    • (Score: 0, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 11 2018, @08:12AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 11 2018, @08:12AM (#650837)

      When you learn English, maybe you can finally apply for U.S. citizenship.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 11 2018, @06:39PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 11 2018, @06:39PM (#651003)

        I came to this country legally, and with all the effort and risk it takes to do so, it pisses me off how cavalierly we handle illegals from the south.

  • (Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 11 2018, @05:38PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 11 2018, @05:38PM (#650973)

    You can live in this place if you can pay your own way.

    Capitalism. One day we'll try it.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 11 2018, @06:59PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 11 2018, @06:59PM (#651014)

      There are a lot of homeless and poor people who would like you to bury your head in the sand. No no, that isn't a metaphor.

  • (Score: 2) by wonkey_monkey on Sunday March 11 2018, @05:51PM (1 child)

    by wonkey_monkey (279) on Sunday March 11 2018, @05:51PM (#650981) Homepage

    "The notion that you somehow have to be a genius or Einstein is utter fiction, said Chris Wright, a lawyer based in Los Angeles. We have succeeded with models no more accomplished than Melania Trump."

    Who's saying what here? A lot of quotation marks got deleted somewhere along the way.

    Elissa Taub, a lawyer in Memphis who secured the EB-1 for [a] German gymnast, said that some of her denials burn me to this day

    Burn who to this day?

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    • (Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Monday March 12 2018, @08:33AM

      by maxwell demon (1608) on Monday March 12 2018, @08:33AM (#651245) Journal

      Burn who to this day?

      The New York Times, of course. At least the paper version burns very well. :-)

      BTW, I think it should be: "Burn whom to this day?"

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