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cmn32480
on Monday March 19 2018, @02:36PM
from the semi-accurate-facts-on-the-internet dept.
from the semi-accurate-facts-on-the-internet dept.
The Wikimedia Foundation writes in its blog that even now, after ten months, the people of Turkey are still denied access to Wikipedia by the current Turkish government.
It has been ten months since the block of Wikipedia in Turkey. For almost a year, the 80 million people of Turkey have been denied access to information on topics ranging from medicine, to history, to current events on Wikipedia. After ten months, and in the midst of the school term, the need to restore access to Wikipedia in Turkey becomes more urgent every day.
The blog post is light on information but does go on to mention ongoing efforts to negotiate removing the ban. Though mostly it concentrates on what the foundation sees as the benefits to lifting the ban.
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Ten Months Later: People of Turkey Still Denied Access to Wikipedia
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(Score: 2) by takyon on Monday March 19 2018, @02:43PM
ProtonMail and VPNs blocked:
https://ahvalnews.com/censorship/turkey-blocks-access-vpns-protonmail [ahvalnews.com]
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/03/15/protonmail_posts_workaround_for_turkish_government_block/ [theregister.co.uk]
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(Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 19 2018, @02:45PM (1 child)
I went there on July 2016 (aftermath of a cancelled meeting [soylentnews.org]) and I could not access SoylentNews and several other websites. I bet SN is still blocked.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by BK on Monday March 19 2018, @03:10PM
And this is the real tragedy. Nobody should be denied their SoylentNews.
...but you HAVE heard of me.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by FakeBeldin on Monday March 19 2018, @02:49PM (7 children)
Look, I'm not a big fan of what's happening in Turkey, but this frame is stretching things way too far.
If anything, the block shows that Wikipedia is becoming less relevant in Turkey every day.
</rant>
Anyway, Turkish government is evolving into a dictatorship. It would be nice if they unblocked Wikipedia. It would be even nicer if they stopped evolving into a dictatorship.
(Score: 2) by Grishnakh on Monday March 19 2018, @05:36PM (6 children)
Exactly. The Turks clearly don't want Wikipedia, and don't think they're missing anything. They're getting exactly what they voted for. They wanted a dictatorship, and that's what they're getting. I do feel sorry for the minority groups though, particularly the Kurds.
(Score: 5, Informative) by takyon on Monday March 19 2018, @05:46PM
The following URL is blocked in Turkey lol:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_fraud_and_violence_during_the_Turkish_general_election,_June_2015 [wikipedia.org]
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(Score: 2) by PartTimeZombie on Monday March 19 2018, @10:52PM
I feel sorry for the Kurds too, the Sykes–Picot Agreement [wikipedia.org] really screwed them over.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday March 20 2018, @12:21AM (2 children)
FTFY. Don't confuse Erdogan's whims and convenience with those of Turkish people.
(Score: 3, Informative) by Grishnakh on Tuesday March 20 2018, @03:58AM (1 child)
They voted for him, just like we voted for Trump.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday March 20 2018, @08:30PM
(Score: 0) by fakefuck39 on Tuesday March 20 2018, @04:51AM
They don't know what wikipedia is. They don't know what a computer is. This is a 3rd world country where people on the street burn random plastic garbage to cook the food they sell. They have dirt on their face, haven't showered in days, have rats and cockroaches running all over the place. There are police with machine guns every other block, and tank-looking things every few blocks. They don't have the concept of walking on the left or right side of the street - it's a bunch or dirty short ants walking in random directions, bumping into each other, picking pockets, and spreading disease. In the morning and again at night they blast muslim prayers over megaphones that cover the whole city. Their whole "culture" is based on being dirty smelly sand niggers, stealing and ripping each other off. Literally city blocks have a rotting smell to them that will make you throw up. Their housing looks like a dumpster filled with rats (but actually it's turks - they're a really small people).
They don't know what wikipedia is, or google, or anything else. This is a 3rd world country. Source: been to turkey many times. The tourist areas in old town Istanbul is nice and euro-ish. Where the actual turks live though. Oh my fucking god, it's a race of disgusting brown rats.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 19 2018, @02:59PM
Wikipedia can be edited by anyone, if only some ministry can be created to curate the truth.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 19 2018, @03:28PM (3 children)
for some reason, a free encyclopedia STILL not working... i'm just not feeling the angst.
(Score: 5, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 19 2018, @03:46PM (2 children)
The free encyclopedia works just fine. The unfree country known as Turkey is broken.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 19 2018, @06:24PM (1 child)
then lets stop worrying about yet another site not working and focus on the problem and not the symptom?
(Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Tuesday March 20 2018, @11:29AM
Looking at the symptoms is an important tool for diagnosis and prognosis.
The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 19 2018, @05:23PM
Turkey's blocking Wikipedia. Regardless of the esteem (or lack thereof) in which you hold Wikipedia, that is an invaluable lesson on Turkey.
In other words, the internet makes more and more dictators and their cronies show their hands regularly.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by DannyB on Monday March 19 2018, @06:28PM (1 child)
If you have a $5 / month VPS [wikipedia.org] such as a "droplet" or "linode" you can easily (for a nerd) set up a proxy over SSH, change your browser's proxy settings, then your web surfing "originates" from your cloud VPS. Your connection from your browser to cloud VPS is SSH encrypted and all browsing passes through your SSH session.
Now just hope access to your VPS isn't blocked.
Then just hope they don't wonder what you're doing over SSH. Of course, you might have some legitimate reason to SSH into a cloud server.
If you think a fertilized egg is a child but an immigrant child is not, please don't pretend your concerns are religious
(Score: 4, Touché) by lentilla on Monday March 19 2018, @08:47PM
Yes, just not a legitimate reason they'd appreciate.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 19 2018, @06:50PM
People need to work on circumvention! And rub the tyrant's face in it! Fuck 'lifting' the ban. Route around it, goddammit! The impotence of resistance against authoritarians is so frustrating to watch!
(Score: 1) by conn8d on Monday March 19 2018, @06:57PM (2 children)
Using Tor to access Wikipedia would be dead simple since you can just download the Tor Browser with everything already setup.
Here is an article from last year talking about the Dark Web Version of the Wikipedia. It mentions Turkey.
https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/7x4g4b/theres-now-a-dark-web-version-of-wikipedia-tor-alec-muffett [vice.com]
(Score: 3, Informative) by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us on Monday March 19 2018, @08:35PM (1 child)
Not really. Tor is blocked in Turkey, also. [turkeyblocks.org] You can bridge it, but then you have to know how to do that.
Do you really want to try that in a country where abductions and police torture [hrw.org] have been reported to occur? (I'm not saying that this doesn't happen elsewhere - but it is not impossible that just having encrypted traffic might earn one attention that could be uncomfortable).
This sig for rent.
(Score: 1) by tftp on Tuesday March 20 2018, @02:56AM