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posted by martyb on Monday April 02 2018, @10:35AM   Printer-friendly
from the making-apps-more-compatible dept.

WINE (Wine Is Not an Emulator) is a compatibility layer that allows some application programs written for Microsoft Windows to run under other operating systems.

Phoronix reports

Following [the March 30] debut of Wine 3.5, a new Wine-Staging release is now available that continues to carry close to one thousand patches on top of the upstream Wine code.

Wine-Staging 3.5 was able to drop some of the patches now that the BCrypt patches have been upstreamed, but they still are dealing with around 950 experimental/testing patches for code not yet in Wine trunk.

There are new patches to Wine-Staging 3.5 to support Implicit MTA, stubbing out some more functions that are needed for the BattlEye game anti-cheat software, adding in a function needed to make Rise of the Tomb Raider happy, fixed 1D texture support, and other fixes and code additions.

Wine-Staging 3.5 binaries for popular Linux distributions are available here.

Phoronix earlier noted

Wine 3.5 continues the recent theme of enabling Vulkan support. Wine 3.5 most notably on this front introduces their new basic Vulkan loader. This means Wine users no longer need to manually install the LunarG SDK for Windows in order to have Vulkan support but rather this custom-developed loader library is shipped by default. This implementation though doesn't support multiple drivers and notably doesn't include support for Vulkan layers, so those needing such features will still want to manually install LunarG's SDK.

The Vulkan library in its current form paired with the recent of Wine's ongoing Vulkan support is good enough for handling Wolfenstein, Doom, and the various Windows VK demos, etc.

Wine 3.5 also includes support for RSA and ECDSA crypto keys, improves its manifest file parser, and supports the Places toolbar within file dialogs.

In its announcement, WINE Headquarters has a list of fixes.

Bugs fixed in 3.5 (total 58)

Some keywords: Empire Earth; Age of Mythology; Mega Man Unlimited; Need for Speed; Rush for Berlin Gold; Battlefield 3 (Origin); Galactic Civilizations III; Starcraft 2; Doom (2016); Grand Theft Auto V; Titanfall2; Wolfenstein 2: The new Colossus; The Witcher 3; Divinity: Original Sin 2.
The list also includes some productivity apps.

See anything in their list that makes you say "That's worth a try"?


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 02 2018, @11:00AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 02 2018, @11:00AM (#661394)

    That's what it made me think.

    Introspect about your desires, and then alter them such that you also ask the same question: "But why?" You'll be much freer.

  • (Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 02 2018, @11:08AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 02 2018, @11:08AM (#661395)

    https://wine-staging.com [wine-staging.com]

    Wine Staging is the testing area of winehq.org. It contains bug fixes and features, which have not been integrated into the development branch yet. The idea of Wine Staging is to provide experimental features faster to end users and to give developers the possibility to discuss and improve their patches before they are integrated into the main branch.

    Wine Staging is maintained as a set of patches which has to be applied on top of the corresponding Wine development version. Package maintainers can decide if they want to include our full patchset, or only want to cherry-pick patches for specific bugs. Our current version includes fixes for about 450 bugs and over 1000 patches total, and new patches are added frequently.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 02 2018, @04:47PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 02 2018, @04:47PM (#661571)

      Back in the day, Linux kernels were such that you could tell something from the number assigned to it: [google.com]
      Even numbers such as 2.4 or 2.6 were stable versions and odd numbers such as 2.3 or 2.5 were development versions.
      Wine-Staging is kinda like that.

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  • (Score: 2) by acid andy on Monday April 02 2018, @12:05PM (3 children)

    by acid andy (1683) on Monday April 02 2018, @12:05PM (#661405) Homepage Journal

    April Fool's Day and this place is almost dead. And no seasonal humor at all, just the usual trolling.

    On the subject of Wine-Staging, I did know about it and the site claims to be "testing area of winehq.org" yet it might gain some trust if winehq.org actually bothered to link to it!

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    • (Score: 2) by takyon on Monday April 02 2018, @12:31PM (2 children)

      by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Monday April 02 2018, @12:31PM (#661414) Journal

      It was also Easter. [people.com] And a weekend.

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      • (Score: 2) by acid andy on Monday April 02 2018, @12:49PM (1 child)

        by acid andy (1683) on Monday April 02 2018, @12:49PM (#661421) Homepage Journal

        Interesting. So are you suggesting that going out or spending time with your family is more important than posting on Soylentnews? Maybe I've got to get out more! ;)

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        • (Score: 2) by Gaaark on Monday April 02 2018, @01:22PM

          by Gaaark (41) on Monday April 02 2018, @01:22PM (#661441) Journal

          Moving our daughter into her new apartment, visiting relatives, playing Catan and ticket to ride, bugger bridge...

          ...busy, busy, busy

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  • (Score: 2) by bobthecimmerian on Monday April 02 2018, @12:10PM (9 children)

    by bobthecimmerian (6834) on Monday April 02 2018, @12:10PM (#661407)

    I fire up Starcraft 2 a handful of times a year, and I've got a few older Windows games like Heroes of Might and Magic 3. The last time I tried the latter on Wine, it would crash unpredictably and I gave up. I might try again.

    I'm trying to move away from using proprietary software, period. That said, I wonder if Wine is our best weapon to eventually make serious headway into Linux on the desktop. They just keep improving, so maybe Wine 5 will be a better Windows 7 than Windows 7 was.

    • (Score: 4, Interesting) by Nerdfest on Monday April 02 2018, @01:12PM (4 children)

      by Nerdfest (80) on Monday April 02 2018, @01:12PM (#661432)

      I've been pretty impressed. I still have an XBox, and have been trying to move to PC for gaming, using Linux of course. One of the things I regularly do is play RockSmith, which uses a real guitar. I actually got the damn thing working under Wine. Most of the rest of the stuff I play is available for Linux, but it's nice to have Wine there as a fallback.

      • (Score: 3, Informative) by Gaaark on Monday April 02 2018, @01:25PM (2 children)

        by Gaaark (41) on Monday April 02 2018, @01:25PM (#661442) Journal

        Total Annihilation, now Supreme Commander 2, Axis and Allies, Starfleet Command all work well.

        Gotta try some others when there is time.

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        • (Score: 2) by Pav on Tuesday April 03 2018, @12:53AM (1 child)

          by Pav (114) on Tuesday April 03 2018, @12:53AM (#661735)

          I'm no hardcore gamer... it's more to relax between other computer related activities. Still, I haven't found the need to go beyond native Linux offerings in some time.

          Spring is a clone of the Total Annihilation engine for Linux and can be used to play the original game if you have the data files. There are also many other Spring based games which are quite worthwhile... I'm into Spring::1944 at the moment. There's also a Warcraft 3 workalike engine, though I don't know if it can deal with Warcraft 3 data files - their engine is up to snuff, but the artwork isn't quite as pretty as WC3 and the game doesn't have the magnificent balance of the original. Still, it's a gamespace that kept me entertained for a good while.

          Gunroar is pretty decent if you are also into the "bullet hell" genre, and like the weird aesthetic and electronica/rock/action soundtrack (which I do).

          There are also some other REALLY GOOD nostalgia faves from other genres eg. The Ur-Quan Masters, which is really "Starcontrol II" released as open source. It's a strange arcade and adventure game amalgam, complete with all adventure game text as voice-actor rendered audio which was only part of the rare CD 3DO release - IMHO this game is worth playing through for the first time today, though use a playthrough guide because the difficulty is stupendous. FreeDroid is a clone of the C64 classic Paradroid, with many famous growling SID chip tunes pilfered from other titles to play in the background, and either faithful or upgraded graphics as options.

          • (Score: 2) by Gaaark on Tuesday April 03 2018, @01:30AM

            by Gaaark (41) on Tuesday April 03 2018, @01:30AM (#661745) Journal

            Ur-Quanmasters is on my laptop right now (yeah, it seems to play faster than I remember, and I gotta get used to each ships strengths and quirks again)
            Tried spring a few years ago...will try again (last time ran very slow only old machine)

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      • (Score: 2) by Gaaark on Thursday April 05 2018, @02:35AM

        by Gaaark (41) on Thursday April 05 2018, @02:35AM (#662745) Journal

        I just got hold of Harpoon, an old DOS/win game: used to spend DAYS moving my carrier fleet from Boston to Iceland, lol.

        Gonna try it out the next few days.

        All the old games are new again ;)

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 02 2018, @04:59PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 02 2018, @04:59PM (#661574)

      it would be nice if wine or alt was made into a transparent layer (no config necessary) that could allow the running of all the lame ass "business software" (specialty slaveware) companies are stuck on. this alone would allow many companies to run gnu+linox until replacements could be developed. all these companies switching to linux would speed up replacement dev too.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 02 2018, @07:19PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 02 2018, @07:19PM (#661632)

      Try using staging with the direct3d patches, or the wine-nine variant if your distro includes it (OpenSUSE does.)

      Recently I've been testing and half of my tested games work with wine+opengl d3d emulation and the other half work with wine+libd3d emulation. There are still a variety of issues (like a z-buffer issue with the water effects in Test Drive Unlimited) that affect both variants, but for most of the rest it is a simple application crash with one or the other, and enabling/disable the wine-nine code, either via winecfg checkbox or reinstalling the 'vanilla' staging version resolves it.

      Having said this, performance has gotten quite good under many circumstances and while Linux is sometimes slower on raw FPS, it tends to have a lot less microstuttering than the same apps on Windows with slower processor speeds. The pre-GCN ATI/AMD drivers seem particularly bad about this, while the mesa drivers appear to be getting quite good on both pre-GCN hardware and Kepler hardware under nouveau. If they can just get OCL 1.2 support going for r600g and start improving compute support in nouveau, we will finally have something to challenge the proprietary software ecosystem we are currently bound by.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 03 2018, @01:38AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 03 2018, @01:38AM (#661750)

      In case you are unaware, there is a mostly complete FOSS engine clone of HoMM3 that runs under Linux (GNU and Android varieties).
      https://vcmi.eu/ [vcmi.eu]

      • (Score: 2) by bobthecimmerian on Tuesday April 03 2018, @08:45PM

        by bobthecimmerian (6834) on Tuesday April 03 2018, @08:45PM (#662159)

        My hero (or heroine, whatever)! Awesome, thanks. I'll look into that. I wasn't aware of it. I have a legally purchased copy of HoMM3 from gog.com, so I should be able to use vcmi.eu

  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 02 2018, @12:12PM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 02 2018, @12:12PM (#661408)

    I would like to have Explorer from Windows XP as default file manager on Linux. Is that possible if I install Wine?

    I have been playing around with various Linux distros on a spare laptop hoping that something holds my attention long enough to wean myself off of Windows XP 32bit (and Win 7 64bit with its garbage Explorer). However, I invariably find myself shutting down the Linux laptop after a few days or weeks and always going back to my other laptop running Windows 7 64bit.

     
    The things I seem to miss on Linux are:

       - the Explorer from Windows XP configured with details view; all the Linux GUI file managers I have tried feel like dumbed down toys; also, I DO NOT WANT to see 'full row select' or 'auto arrange' functions existing in my file manager. I DO WANT to have a highly configurable right-click context menu for selected objects in the file manager window.

       - easy drag and drop support between any open window objects (including the desktop), with accompanying configurable right-click context menu options.

       - when dragging a Firefox (or Pale Moon) address bar icon to the desktop or an open Explorer window, I want to see a URL file appear.

       - easily populate the start menu or desktop with more shortcuts by drag-drop.

       - a native Linux application launcher program like the third party Windows programs PStart [portablefreeware.com] and ASuite [portablefreeware.com]. If you have seriously configured and used one or both of these programs for a decent length of time (on Windows) you will know why I love them so much.

     
    P.S. - Yes I have tried out the Linux distro 'Q4OS' with the 'XPQ4' extension package; close but no cigar. I wish I had a Linux developer friend, who I could give regular 'X' dollar payments plus beer, to implement the features I mentioned above BEGINNING NOW AND NOT 12 YEARS FROM NOW!!.

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by acid andy on Monday April 02 2018, @01:03PM (2 children)

      by acid andy (1683) on Monday April 02 2018, @01:03PM (#661427) Homepage Journal

      I would like to have Explorer from Windows XP as default file manager on Linux. Is that possible if I install Wine?

      Are you a masochist?

      This could probably be configured but is likely to cause all sorts of problems. For starters, filenames in Linux are case sensitive but Explorer makes no distinction. Also, Linux can create files with names that Windows and presumably Explorer cannot handle (e.g. ':'). Explorer won't read Linux disk formats either so you'd be stuck with NTFS or FAT. Wine's file browser can read them I think but that's not Explorer.

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 02 2018, @05:08PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 02 2018, @05:08PM (#661580)

        you'd be stuck with NTFS or FAT

        Yeah. The major advantage of *n?x filesystems is that the system will look for a spot that is large enough to hold the entire file then write it there.
        This is 1 reason that Linux systems are faster: They go a long time without any need for defragging.

        .
        Windoze filesystems will put a creation date on a file while Linux filesystems don't.
        Linux file managers won't display that information, even if it is available.
        That's one of the few things that I miss about MICROS~1's stuff.

        filenames in Linux are case sensitive but Explorer makes no distinction

        The default way that things are sorted/alphabetized is different too.
        Linux n00bs have been know to bitch about that.
        (That can be tweaked.)

        -- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 02 2018, @07:24PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 02 2018, @07:24PM (#661634)

          The filesystem drivers just don't currently implement it, even though it could be handled in the filesystem driver (since it only states when the file was created on THAT filesystem, not the assumed behavior of it being when the file was originally created, just like whatever the third timestamp is besides mtime and atime. mtime being the closest equivalent to the old DOS timestamps.)

    • (Score: 2) by Nerdfest on Monday April 02 2018, @01:15PM

      by Nerdfest (80) on Monday April 02 2018, @01:15PM (#661435)

      KDE's Dolphin file explorer will do the detail view default configuration thing, but I thought the Gnome one did as well.

  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by takyon on Monday April 02 2018, @12:29PM

    by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Monday April 02 2018, @12:29PM (#661413) Journal

    Empire Earth (the first one) is pretty boring and annoying, especially with its 14-15 ages (epochs). Probably not worthwhile if you aren't playing it multiplayer.

    Age of Mythology is an underrated game in the AoE series. Fun gameplay, good music, and it brought the graphics to about as good as a top-down strategy game needs (compared to the preceding AoE 2: Age of Kings/Conquerors). Instead of just generating gold, the relics in this game give one of a long list of random bonuses. I still haven't tried Tale of the Dragon, could be interesting.

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Freeman on Monday April 02 2018, @03:33PM

    by Freeman (732) on Monday April 02 2018, @03:33PM (#661518) Journal

    PlayOnLinux makes using / configuring WINE easy enough for a Linux Newbie.

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