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posted by Fnord666 on Tuesday April 10 2018, @10:59AM   Printer-friendly
from the should-be-committed dept.

Facebook should adopt stringent EU data protection rules as a global "baseline" for all of the social network's services, consumer activists say in an open letter that contends the rules will help ensure the company is accountable and transparent.

The Transatlantic Consumer Dialogue, a coalition of US and European consumer groups, called on CEO Mark Zuckerberg to adopt the EU's General Data Protection Regulation to govern his company's platform. The sweeping regulation, known by the abbreviation GDPR, gives Europeans more control over their personal data and compels companies to notify consumers of data breaches within 72 hours. It also expands the types of information that are considered personal data.

"The GDPR provides a solid foundation for data protection, establishing clear responsibilities for companies that collect personal data and clear rights for users whose data is gathered," TCD said in its letter. "These are protections that all users should be entitled to no matter where they are located."

[...] In its letter, the Transatlantic Consumer Dialogue suggested the GDPR represents the gold standard in data protection, telling Zuckerberg that "there is simply no reason for your company to provide less than the best legal standards currently available to protect the privacy of Facebook users."

It urged Zuckerberg to express his commitment "to global compliance with GDPR and provide specific details on how the company plans to implement these changes" in his Congressional testimony. 

[...] Facebook declined to comment for this story, but executives have previously commented on GDPR and similar subjects.


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  • (Score: 0, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 10 2018, @11:07AM (40 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 10 2018, @11:07AM (#664884)

    Zuckerberg is providing a service in which people participate willingly.

    Bureaucrats are putting guns to people's heads and saying "Do what I say, or I'll have you thrown into a cage."

    I know which is the lesser evil.

    • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 10 2018, @11:29AM (26 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 10 2018, @11:29AM (#664890)

      Nobody believes this.
      The time for regulation has arrived. All monopolies must be smashed to bits.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 10 2018, @11:51AM (12 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 10 2018, @11:51AM (#664896)

        What is there not to believe? Your response is entirely emotional.

        • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday April 10 2018, @02:44PM (11 children)

          by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday April 10 2018, @02:44PM (#664958) Journal

          Your response is entirely emotional.

          And, yours is entirely mercenary.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 10 2018, @04:19PM (10 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 10 2018, @04:19PM (#665002)

            So, you'll have to explain yourself.

            • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 10 2018, @05:53PM (5 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 10 2018, @05:53PM (#665036)

              Why should anyone explain anything to you at this point? You bury your head in the sand and just spew "violently imposed monopoly!" over and over. You are a blight upon all discussions.

              • (Score: 0, Disagree) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 10 2018, @07:42PM (4 children)

                by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 10 2018, @07:42PM (#665074)

                I'm still waiting for a valid argument.

                So much for your so-called "discussion".

                I guess "a blight upon" means "an independent thinker in".

                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 10 2018, @08:33PM (3 children)

                  by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 10 2018, @08:33PM (#665090)

                  You poor tortured soul

                  • (Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday April 11 2018, @05:03AM (2 children)

                    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday April 11 2018, @05:03AM (#665234) Journal
                    You're projecting.
                    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 11 2018, @10:47PM (1 child)

                      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 11 2018, @10:47PM (#665601)

                      You always turn up in these threads, I can only presume you're one of the ACs pushing the "gubmint is evil monopoly based on guuuns" and "taxes are theeeeft!"

                      Nice to see it only took you a few years to co-opt the "projecting" argument, although it seems it might be another year before you understand how to use it. You were close, but it is more nuanced than "I know you are but what am I?"

                      • (Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday April 12 2018, @03:47AM

                        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Thursday April 12 2018, @03:47AM (#665730) Journal

                        I can only presume you're one of the ACs pushing the "gubmint is evil monopoly based on guuuns" and "taxes are theeeeft!"

                        And I can only presume that stupidity is what is torturing your soul.

            • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday April 11 2018, @01:10AM (3 children)

              by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday April 11 2018, @01:10AM (#665168) Journal

              It seems pretty obvious. If you're defending a corporation for exploiting millions of people, then your only interest is money. Mercenary.

              • (Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday April 11 2018, @05:05AM (2 children)

                by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday April 11 2018, @05:05AM (#665237) Journal

                If you're defending a corporation for exploiting millions of people, then your only interest is money.

                And the reasoning behind that is? Seems a lot like the foible of attributing the worst to someone because of lack of imagination. And what does such alleged interest in money mean?

                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 11 2018, @10:50PM (1 child)

                  by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 11 2018, @10:50PM (#665603)

                  It means you are a craven whore to the capitalist ideology who will march humanity into oblivion because environmentalists are hippy nutjobs.

                  I'll file this under "More evidence khallow is an AI experiment to allow mass astro-turfing."

                  • (Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday April 12 2018, @03:48AM

                    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Thursday April 12 2018, @03:48AM (#665731) Journal

                    It means you are a craven whore to the capitalist ideology who will march humanity into oblivion because environmentalists are hippy nutjobs.

                    And yet, money doesn't enter into this elaborate yarn diagram.

      • (Score: 0, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 10 2018, @12:00PM (10 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 10 2018, @12:00PM (#664898)

        Indeed, a government is the worst kind of monopoly: It is one that grew not from providing a voluntary service, but rather from violent imposition.

        • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 10 2018, @03:04PM (9 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 10 2018, @03:04PM (#664972)

          Idiots are the worst kind of trolls. They think they are correct and force their views upon people through incessant spamming.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 10 2018, @04:04PM (8 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 10 2018, @04:04PM (#664996)

            Your lack of agreement does not make it spam.

            If anything, your particular brand of non-reply is spam.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 10 2018, @07:33PM (7 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 10 2018, @07:33PM (#665069)

              You are correct, my agreement or lack thereof has no bearing upon your posts. The repetition and off-topic nature of your posts definitely is salient to my previous point. Your lack of vision seems directly tied to the amount of sand piled up around your eyeballs.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 10 2018, @07:43PM (6 children)

                by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 10 2018, @07:43PM (#665076)

                Someone says "smash all monopolies."

                Someone else replies "The government is a monopoly; shall we smash it?"

                That seems horrifically on topic.

                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 10 2018, @08:38PM (5 children)

                  by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 10 2018, @08:38PM (#665092)

                  Sure this time it was relatively on-topic except for the continuous fact that you have no viable solutions to replace government. Your propositions are lame and rely on humanity being perfectly sane and logical actors. Grow up kid.

                  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 10 2018, @08:58PM (1 child)

                    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 10 2018, @08:58PM (#665098)

                    Should ALL monopolies be smashed to bits, or is government some magical exception?

                    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 10 2018, @09:37PM

                      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 10 2018, @09:37PM (#665110)

                      You fail basic reasoning yet again.

                      There is no monopoly on government. Individual cities/counties/states create their own laws, and sometimes they go against the federal government. Don't like your government? Move to another city/state. Don't like the US federal government? Move to another country.

                      Let me get a seat further up the bleachers, when your brain explodes from too many mental gymnastics I don't want to be contaminated.

                  • (Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday April 11 2018, @05:13AM (2 children)

                    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday April 11 2018, @05:13AM (#665240) Journal

                    Sure this time it was relatively on-topic except for the continuous fact that you have no viable solutions to replace government.

                    The original quote did not make that distinction instead saying all monopolies - not just the ones that are viable - should be smashed. It's fine to be concerned that a simplistic one-size-fits-all approach probably is not viable. It's not so fine to be selectively concerned and only express that concern towards criticism of the original flawed post.

                    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 11 2018, @06:31AM (1 child)

                      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 11 2018, @06:31AM (#665255)

                      Whatever you say boss. Yessir that khallow is one mean boss, don't wanna cross that man, uh uhhh.

                      • (Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday April 11 2018, @01:49PM

                        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday April 11 2018, @01:49PM (#665361) Journal

                        Whatever you say boss.

                        Read the thread.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 10 2018, @09:16PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 10 2018, @09:16PM (#665104)

        Yup.

        The U.S has proven that unchecked capitalism is greedy to no limit, it will never self-regulate. The 'free market' is a myth.

        Zuck will self-regulate facebook about the same time he will admit to stealing the idea for the company.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 11 2018, @10:31AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 11 2018, @10:31AM (#665311)

          Aren't we fortunate that the sociopathic dregs of the corporate world stay out of the organization that has a monopoly on violence, Government.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 10 2018, @12:08PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 10 2018, @12:08PM (#664905)

      I know which is the lesser evil.

      You may indeed believe you know.

    • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Tuesday April 10 2018, @12:16PM (11 children)

      by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday April 10 2018, @12:16PM (#664908) Journal

      Bureaucrats are putting guns to people's heads...

      And consumer groups agree. Like in:

      The Transatlantic Consumer Dialogue, a coalition of US and European consumer groups,

      --
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 10 2018, @12:18PM (10 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 10 2018, @12:18PM (#664909)

        Might doesn't make right. Your lack of principles is showing.

        • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Tuesday April 10 2018, @12:29PM (9 children)

          by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday April 10 2018, @12:29PM (#664915) Journal

          Your lack of principles is showing.

          I'm glad you noticed my lack of your principles.

          Nothing is more abhorrent to me than to replace my life with a set of principles. Chances are, you'll reach this conclusion too after a while.

          --
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 10 2018, @01:24PM (8 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 10 2018, @01:24PM (#664928)

            I don't know what you mean by "replace my life with a set of principles".

            • (Score: 3, Insightful) by c0lo on Tuesday April 10 2018, @02:01PM (7 children)

              by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday April 10 2018, @02:01PM (#664939) Journal

              You'll have time to learn, no worries.

              Anything the human intelligence is able to hold are representations/models of the reality, an approximation of it, reductionist by their very nature.
              As such, each of them will have limited range of applicability - step out of these bounds and any decision you take based on those models will come back to bite you. To make a "car analogy", think how useful the "car analogies" are - probably good enough to get your message across to someone, but try to stretch them and the only good thing you extract by using them are the lols.

              Particularly harmful are the principles - they offer such a tempting simplicity to everything! But... for every complex problem, there is a solution that is clear, simple, and wrong. In that solution you'll very likely find a blind application of principles.

              Think in your vanity that you know everything and think that everything can and must be governed by principles and it will not be you to live your life, but those principles will live it.

              --
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 10 2018, @02:10PM (6 children)

                by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 10 2018, @02:10PM (#664941)

                Good day, sir.

                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 10 2018, @03:07PM (4 children)

                  by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 10 2018, @03:07PM (#664974)

                  I sense a stubborn horse. Oh well it is his thirst to deal with.

                  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 10 2018, @04:07PM (3 children)

                    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 10 2018, @04:07PM (#664997)

                    Drink at your own peril.

                    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 10 2018, @05:56PM (2 children)

                      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 10 2018, @05:56PM (#665038)

                      I just imagine a 15 year old "gifted" student bored with school work and who thinks they've solved the world's problems with some very basic principles. "Why has no one else thought of this?" thinks the teen. Stuck in a small world view and lacking education this teen marches on a crusade to bring light to the darkness.

                      I hope your mid-life crisis doesn't fracture your psyche.

                      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 10 2018, @07:46PM (1 child)

                        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 10 2018, @07:46PM (#665077)

                        It doesn't look like one.

                        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 10 2018, @09:40PM

                          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 10 2018, @09:40PM (#665111)

                          Just idle speculation since any real effort outlining a good argument is just wasted on you.

                • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Tuesday April 10 2018, @10:14PM

                  by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday April 10 2018, @10:14PM (#665123) Journal

                  I'm not arguing, just answering your direct question.
                  Not everything in life is about debating. There's no race to win, cool down.

                  A good day to you too.

                  --
                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
  • (Score: 0, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 10 2018, @11:44AM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 10 2018, @11:44AM (#664892)

    He is cause of this problem by turning of privacy settings over the years and forcing all to opt out only.
    Right now
    1) set all privacy setting show be set on period. Proves that Facebook heard
    2) minimum standard of all data is tightest if all countries. This way programmers cannot claim “oh that code is for US only.
    3) stop collecting info from the Facebook web-bug. Ie: all the Facebook icons other companies sites.
    4) all companies that show that icon are also responsible (money) for helping Facebook to spy on us all.

    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by HiThere on Tuesday April 10 2018, @06:10PM (1 child)

      by HiThere (866) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday April 10 2018, @06:10PM (#665045) Journal

      Zuckerberg was the original source of the problem, but now it's systematic in the company. I really doubt that Zuckerberg has any intention of trying to fix it, but even if he did at this point in time he'd be fighting against the design and tradition of the company. So even if he were to honestly reform, I doubt if he could fix the problems with Facebook. That would require a major structural change, including alternate funding sources.

      Better would be to kill off the company. Now how to do that is a major problem. Most people aren't even aware of the problems it's causing, and the only real way to kill Facebook, rather than just rename it, is to get those people to use something less harmful. Good luck. I expect that Facebook will soon die, but that is most likely to be because of an even more intrusive replacement.

      --
      Javascript is what you use to allow unknown third parties to run software you have no idea about on your computer.
      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 11 2018, @06:47AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 11 2018, @06:47AM (#665263)

        gave a suggestion on how to end Facebook. She just didn't have the manpower for her own crusade, or the sense to rile enough fellow abused souls to storm the Alamo(youtube) and purge America's True Patriots once and for all :) Facebook deserves the same treatment or worse. I mean after all, do you try and kill the individual cells of the cancer, at the risk of one escaping? Or do you purge the whole area in fire, scapel and toxic chemicals and ensure that nothing malign can grow back there ever again?

        We can review our options again when the legal equivalent of immuno-therapy arrives in the legal and political realm. Until then, purge it hard and to hell with the consequences.

  • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Tuesday April 10 2018, @11:46AM (2 children)

    by JoeMerchant (3937) on Tuesday April 10 2018, @11:46AM (#664893)

    Adherence to the GDPR would have made Facebook less popular with users, and FAR less valuable to the data vampires investors and paying clients. Both would have inhibited growth and kept Facebook from achieving the top of market position it enjoyed.

    --
    🌻🌻 [google.com]
    • (Score: 5, Insightful) by stormwyrm on Tuesday April 10 2018, @11:56AM (1 child)

      by stormwyrm (717) on Tuesday April 10 2018, @11:56AM (#664897) Journal

      Both would have inhibited growth and kept Facebook from achieving the top of market position it enjoyed.

      Gee, you say that as though it were a bad thing. I would rather have had the worst excesses of Facebook reined in before it achieved the kind of ridiculous power it has today. No one should have that kind of power, even if it's willingly abdicated by the billion or so people who are on it today.

      --
      Numquam ponenda est pluralitas sine necessitate.
      • (Score: 3, Interesting) by JoeMerchant on Tuesday April 10 2018, @01:07PM

        by JoeMerchant (3937) on Tuesday April 10 2018, @01:07PM (#664924)

        Gee, you say that as though it were a bad thing.

        F-yeah it's a bad thing. Zuckerburg can barely afford to purchase 1500 40 million dollar private islands, who are we to stand in the way of his greatness? He earned that wealth through hard work, intelligence and exemplary moral fiber - and the history books his organization pays to have written will all say so.

        What I really don't understand is how something as vapid as Facebook can be valued at $66 per person on the planet, over $200 "per active user" by their own inflated opinion of what an active user is?

        --
        🌻🌻 [google.com]
  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by choose another one on Tuesday April 10 2018, @12:18PM (1 child)

    by choose another one (515) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday April 10 2018, @12:18PM (#664910)

    Zuckerberg can commit all he likes to compliance with GDPR - the CLOUD act (if it stands) looks like it prevents him from actually doing it.

    Specifically, article 48 of the GDPR says that all third country requests for disclosure _must_ go via an international agreement such as a MLAT - which is exactly what the US has refused to do, leading to the MS case and now the CLOUD act.

    On the other hand, FB could just pay the fines... my guess is that 4% of Facebook / MS / Google / Amazon global turnover (which is the fine for "Transfer of personal data to a recipient in a third country") would go some way towards plugging the EU budget hole when the UK leaves. Fines are the new corporate taxes, conveniently levied against turnover (which is harder to hide/move) not profit, a really cynical view might suggest that the EU saw something like the CLOUD act coming and planned it that way...

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 10 2018, @12:33PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 10 2018, @12:33PM (#664916)

      I'm happy as long as Facebook keeps fucking US citizens who richly deserve it.

  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Thexalon on Tuesday April 10 2018, @12:52PM

    by Thexalon (636) on Tuesday April 10 2018, @12:52PM (#664920)

    Just like all major companies caught with their pants down, the plan is:
    1. Do a public relations dance for a while, until the noise dies down and the masses are focused on something else.
    2. Continue with business as usual.

    They have every incentive to do this, so that's what they'll do.

    --
    The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
  • (Score: 5, Informative) by bradley13 on Tuesday April 10 2018, @02:08PM (7 children)

    by bradley13 (3053) on Tuesday April 10 2018, @02:08PM (#664940) Homepage Journal

    This is the guy who wrote: People just submitted it. I don't know why. They "trust me". Dumb fucks. [wikiquote.org]

    He's a classic sociopath. He may pretend otherwise, because he has to, but one should not forget what he really is.

    --
    Everyone is somebody else's weirdo.
    • (Score: 4, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 10 2018, @02:12PM (6 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 10 2018, @02:12PM (#664943)

      The problem is not that Zuckerberg is a sociopath.

      The problem is that most people are "Dumb fucks".

      • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 10 2018, @02:27PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 10 2018, @02:27PM (#664949)

        Trying to take down a sociopath here and a sociopath there seems like a losing strategy.

        Well, it seems inevitable that sociopaths will rise to positions of power. It seems like an evolutionary advantage, one I wish I had.

        As a practical matter, that means that non-sociopaths simply need to learn how to negotiate with sociopaths. Fortunately, this is a skill that can be learned.

        Always remember that the sociopath's goal is not to provide something mutually beneficial. The sociopath's goal is control; he wants to control you. You, personally. That is what he wants to control. He is not negotiating in good faith. He is negotiating for your soul. All that is required is to say "no." Then he'll start saying things like "it'll be big!!$$$!" or "you're missing out!!" He uses your own ego and greed against you.

        Therefore, all that is required is to let go of ego. Once one begins to approach the problem from the perspective of impermanence, seeing attachment to the material world as the source of all the sociopath's power, then one removes oneself from the influence of sociopaths. A sociopath has nothing to offer somebody who sees no value in the impermanent material world and has no ego to appeal to.

      • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday April 10 2018, @02:51PM

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday April 10 2018, @02:51PM (#664963) Journal

        Modded up for visibility. It's like the old story about con artists. If you weren't greedy, the con man never would have fooled you.

      • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 10 2018, @02:55PM (3 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 10 2018, @02:55PM (#664965)

        I used to be flabbergasted by how many seemingly stupid people there are in the world.

        Then, at one point, I realized that, BY DEFINITION, half of all people are of below average intelligence, and it seemed to make sense to me.

        It now occurs to me that the problem is not that half are below average, but that the STANDARD DEVIATION is so high.

        • (Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Tuesday April 10 2018, @11:29PM (2 children)

          by MichaelDavidCrawford (2339) Subscriber Badge <mdcrawford@gmail.com> on Tuesday April 10 2018, @11:29PM (#665140) Homepage Journal

          Note that the standard deviation of the IQ distribution is more or less the width of the distribution of IQ among the whole population.

          It's not the standard deviation of error in the test's measurement. That's much smaller.

          The psychologist who tested my IQ in eighth grade sadly informed me that two people with a difference of 20 points are completely unable to relate to each other.

          Hilary Clinton, say what you will about her, is very intelligent - and so unable to relate to Trump's base.

          I've spend my whole adult life learning how to relate to anybody. "Active Listening" helps quite a lot. A common complaint that many people make about other people is that they never listen.

          --
          Yes I Have No Bananas. [gofundme.com]
          • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 11 2018, @10:41AM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 11 2018, @10:41AM (#665315)

            If 2 people are separated by 20 IQ points, then the one with the lower IQ will have trouble relating to the one with the higher IQ. However, the one with the higher IQ could, if desired, relate to the one with the lower IQ.

            Trump turned himself into a billionaire, and has been successful in multiple domains of enterprise; he made a large power base of lower-income, lower-educated proles.

            Hillary is a bureaucrat, and the wife of a former President. She was made the candidate by higher-income, higher-educated elites.

            You figure it out.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 11 2018, @10:57PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 11 2018, @10:57PM (#665610)

              You have a pretty massive assumption built into your reply, I'll let you figure it out.

              #wrong #sad #trumpstinyhands

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 11 2018, @01:11AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 11 2018, @01:11AM (#665169)

    Sorry, working all day, late to this party.

    Just think of all the dirt on politicians that must be buried in FB posts. It has to be orders more than J Edgar Hoover used to have in his files on dirty pols (which JEH used to stay on top of the FBI for many years).
    Possible outcome 1. The Pols realize this (even if Zuck doesn't) and toss him softball questions.
    Possible outcome 2. The pols don't realize this, ask hardball questions and get Zuck pissed off--and he releases all this info, like a giant Wikileaks dump.

    Wouldn't #2 be fun??!!

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