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posted by martyb on Wednesday April 11 2018, @01:14AM   Printer-friendly
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https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2018/04/09/cens-a09.html

Zuckerberg announced Friday that the company will "require people who manage large pages to be verified," meaning they will have to provide the company, and by extension the US government, with their real names and locations.

[...] Zuckerberg added that the move would involve the hiring of thousands of additional censors and "security" personnel. "In order to require verification for all of these pages and advertisers, we will hire thousands of more people," he wrote.


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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday April 11 2018, @01:30AM (4 children)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday April 11 2018, @01:30AM (#665172) Journal

    It has also fueled speculation that Zuckerberg, who owns 28 percent of Facebook stock, could be ousted in a boardroom coup.

    I'm no fan of Zuck - but WTF good can come of a coup? They'll trade Zuck for a bunch of suits whose loyalties lie with government, record labels, telcos, military industrial, and who knows what else. They certainly won't put any consumer activists in a boardroom.

    • (Score: 5, Informative) by Mykl on Wednesday April 11 2018, @02:03AM (3 children)

      by Mykl (1112) on Wednesday April 11 2018, @02:03AM (#665183)

      There will be no coup. Facebook have two tiers of shares - those with voting rights and those without. Zuckerberg owns 60% of the voting shares, so he will remain Supreme Dictator For Lifetm.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 11 2018, @02:19AM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 11 2018, @02:19AM (#665190)

        According to a Facebook filing [sec.gov], he only had 59.7% of the votes.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 11 2018, @06:32AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 11 2018, @06:32AM (#665256)

          Maybe he voted .3% of the shares for the other guy.

        • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Wednesday April 11 2018, @01:00PM

          by Freeman (732) on Wednesday April 11 2018, @01:00PM (#665341) Journal

          Which still amounts to him owning the majority of the shares.

          --
          Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
  • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 11 2018, @01:34AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 11 2018, @01:34AM (#665174)

    Registering "large pages" is a response suited to last century.
    See reddit for an example of what 21st century industrial scale astroturfing looks like.

    • (Score: 2) by Virindi on Wednesday April 11 2018, @02:34AM

      by Virindi (3484) on Wednesday April 11 2018, @02:34AM (#665196)

      Registering "large pages" is a response suited to last century.

      Not if the purpose is to control the narrative. To do that you must do two things:

      1) Control the big guys that everyone already listens to.
      2) Prevent anyone you don't like from entering that group.

      This is part of #1. #2 can be done more quietly by messing with recommendation algorithms and stuff like that.

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Booga1 on Wednesday April 11 2018, @01:51AM (2 children)

    by Booga1 (6333) on Wednesday April 11 2018, @01:51AM (#665178)

    Facebook will be "...hiring of thousands of additional censors..." which is JUST what the government wanted!
    So cheap, so obviously "not censorship" because it's not the government. What more could they ask for?

    • (Score: 3, Funny) by realDonaldTrump on Wednesday April 11 2018, @03:18AM

      by realDonaldTrump (6614) on Wednesday April 11 2018, @03:18AM (#665212) Homepage Journal

      These new JOBS are TERRIFIC! And if you think about it, they're because of me. Because of my campaign. Facebook was tremendous for my campaign (and let's not forget Cambridge Analytica, great guys working there, very smart). I think if we continue to create jobs like I’ve done, over 3 million since I’ve been in office, way over 3 million, our economy will grow as it never did before. We're getting amazing growth in our economy and in so many things. More and more people are rejecting the cynicism that our labor force will keep declining, that our jobs will keep leaving.

      Mark, if you're listening: thank you for creating these GREAT jobs. But I have something more to ask. I'm asking you to hire AMERICANS. The H-1B program is neither high-skilled nor immigration: these are temporary foreign workers, imported from abroad, for the explicit purpose of substituting for American workers at lower pay. I remain totally committed to eliminating rampant, widespread H-1B abuse and ending outrageous practices such as those that occurred at Disney in Florida when Americans were forced to train their foreign replacements. I will end forever the use of the H-1B as a cheap labor program, and institute an absolute requirement to hire American workers first for every visa and immigration program. NO EXCEPTIONS!!!!

    • (Score: 2) by Fluffeh on Wednesday April 11 2018, @03:26AM

      by Fluffeh (954) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday April 11 2018, @03:26AM (#665214) Journal

      Facebook will be "...hiring of thousands of additional censors..." which is JUST what the government wanted!
      So cheap, so obviously "not censorship" because it's not the government. What more could they ask for?

      Actually, that works both ways. Now EVERYONE who is large enough to matter will be tracked back down to a "Real Person" (tm). That means when politicians are talking two tunes it can be tracked back to them easier as well - seeing where funding is coming from for various "alt this, alt that" movements.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 11 2018, @01:55AM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 11 2018, @01:55AM (#665180)

    Posted this at the end of the previous FB/Zuck article (but I was too late to attract replies), reposting here--

    Just think of all the dirt on politicians that must be buried in FB posts and related data. It has to be orders of magnitude more than J Edgar Hoover had in his files on dirty pols (which Hoover used to scare pols and keep his FBI job for many years). And all so easy to find with fast searching.

    Possible outcome 1. The Pols realize this (even if Zuck doesn't) and toss him softball questions.
    Possible outcome 2. The pols don't realize this, ask hardball questions and get Zuck pissed off--and he releases all this info, like a giant Wikileaks dump.

    Wouldn't #2 be fun??!!

    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 11 2018, @02:26AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 11 2018, @02:26AM (#665191)

      Zuck pissed off--and he releases all this info, like a giant Wikileaks dump.

      Why throw all the toys out of the pram, when there's so much more to be gained by threatening to throw the toys out of the pram?

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 11 2018, @07:45AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 11 2018, @07:45AM (#665279)

        So you think Zuck is only pretending to be impulsive and childish?

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 11 2018, @04:42AM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 11 2018, @04:42AM (#665226)

    So now Facebook is getting its own police force. Life is becoming strange.

    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 11 2018, @04:55AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 11 2018, @04:55AM (#665231)

      It has been there since day #1. You only noticed it today.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 11 2018, @08:18AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 11 2018, @08:18AM (#665286)

        Runaway! Brietbart! Foam bullets! Or Bulletproof foam, not sure which! My gawd, just run away! Facebook has a facial recognition of Runaway's 1911, with the safety off. It may be too late, I am telling you! Bug-out bags, head for the bunkers! Stay there until further SoylentNews Survivalist Alert "All Clear" message is sent. It could be a while. Months. Possibly years. Try not to eat your bunker mates.

    • (Score: 2) by Wootery on Wednesday April 11 2018, @08:48AM (1 child)

      by Wootery (2341) on Wednesday April 11 2018, @08:48AM (#665295)

      It's a website. Facebook can adopt whatever policies they want, and we're free to judge them for it, but your analogy is pretty stretched.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 11 2018, @02:35PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 11 2018, @02:35PM (#665378)

        No, I don't think they should be able to adopt whatever policies they want, since I'm not a ridiculous free marketeer. For example, they should not be allowed to store information about people who don't even have accounts (shadow profiles), and nor should their massive facial recognition schemes be legal.

        No one should be using Facebook anyway, for privacy reasons and others. It is dangerous to give such a company the ability to build a bubble around you. This idea that it's worth being used by Facebook because you can have fake 'friends', find out about events, or chat with family members across the country who you obviously don't really care about is asinine. It seems no one has any principles whatsoever, which led to these era where privacy barely exists even if you don't use these monstrous surveillance engines.

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