Four of AMD's second-generation Ryzen CPUs have been released. These are "12nm Zen+" chips with minor changes, rather than the more significant third-generation "7nm Zen 2" chips coming later.
The CPUs are the 8-core Ryzen 7 2700X ($329) and Ryzen 7 2700 ($299), and the 6-core Ryzen 5 2600X ($229) and Ryzen 5 2600 ($199). All four come with a bundled cooler, 2 threads per core, and support DDR4-2933 memory, up from DDR4-2666.
The Ryzen 7 2700X takes over the top spot from the Ryzen 7 1800X, and for an extra 10 W in TDP will provide a base frequency of 3.7 GHz and a turbo frequency of 4.3 GHz on its eight cores, with simultaneous multi-threading. This is an extra +100 MHz and +300 MHz respectively, going above the average limits of the 1800X when overclocked.
The 2700X also reduces the top cost for the best AM4 Ryzen processor: when launched, the 1800X was set at $499, without a bundled cooler, and was recently dropped to $349 as a price-competitor to Intel's most powerful mainstream processor. The 2700X undercuts both, by being listed at a suggested e-tail price of $329, and is bundled with the best stock cooler in the business: AMD's Wraith Prism RGB. AMD is attempting to hit all the targets: aggressive pricing, top performance, and best value, all in one go.
IPC is improved about 3% due to cache latency improvements, clock speeds are up about 6% (die sizes and transistor counts are similar to the previous generation, but more unused silicon is used as a thermal buffer), and Precision Boost 2 / XFR 2 is used, for a total of about 10% better performance.
Also at Tom's Hardware and PC World.
(Score: 2, Flamebait) by realDonaldTrump on Thursday April 19 2018, @10:35PM (2 children)
Spectre & Meltdown fixed very quickly, time to buy new cyber. Big boost to our economy. Great job!!!!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 19 2018, @10:49PM (1 child)
(Score: 2) by fyngyrz on Thursday April 19 2018, @11:10PM
I think we need a 0=Whoosh mod...
And while we're at it, a 0=Agree mod
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 19 2018, @10:54PM (5 children)
Don't care.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 20 2018, @02:47AM (3 children)
So you haven't bought a new motherboard and CPU since 2008 then, I take it. And most likely won't be buying a new one for a very long time.
(Score: 2, Funny) by anubi on Friday April 20 2018, @06:46AM (1 child)
That's been my prime driver as to why I still have 386SX systems in operation.
And building my own line of Arduino-Compatibles.
I Flat Cannot Trust These New Systems!
They are beautiful to look at, very powerful, but they are like having a whore for a wife. Everyone and his brother is in her behind my back.
There is no way for me to "fix" her. As far as I am concerned, she is a whore, a prostitute, unfaithful, and I want a divorce on those grounds.
She is "business grade", not my kind. I do not need near her performance level, but its *imperative* that I be able to trust her!
Even if I have Arduino grade stuff doing the core PLC kind of stuff, I can always get HMI's for "eye candy", and fall back to terminal mode in case of eye candy fail.
The kind of stuff I work on, well let me say it would be very expensive if it suddenly stopped working in the middle of the night. And a lot of it is security related. I can't have other people running around knowing how to turn it off or telling it to look the other way. And it HAS to be able to keep a secret. If it doesn't, people's property may be taken - or worse.
"Prove all things; hold fast that which is good." [KJV: I Thessalonians 5:21]
(Score: 2) by takyon on Friday April 20 2018, @01:05PM
Use a ＣＹＢＥＲ condom. Penetrate those robo-whore CPUs.
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(Score: 2) by Freeman on Friday April 20 2018, @03:31PM
Maybe they've only bought Raspberry Pis? Though, even that has some blob.
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 20 2018, @04:13PM
here, here!
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 19 2018, @11:21PM (7 children)
This generation's motherboards have been garbage. Dodgy feature sets, bad VRMs which can't handle this years chips, totally discrediting the whole long-term socket concept.
Every motherboard manufacturer spent 90% of the development time adding hundreds of RGB leds, and a UI to make them flash stupid patterns.
Gigabytes run hot as hell, ANUS dropped an overpriced republic of gaymer turd, ASSRock couldn't be bothered adding displayport.
Gimmicky armor and camouflage to appeal to 12yo boys up the wazoo. There are no good choices.
(Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 20 2018, @12:00AM (3 children)
They used to make some cheap no frills boards which handled abuse alright. Other than the occasional recap after 2-5 years (they didn't last as long in the P4 era) they lasted pretty well, could usually handle up to a 20-30 percent overclock, and other than focusing on mATX boards, were full featured save 1-2 expansion slots.
Having spoken with someone with sufficient money and time who overclocked the first gen Ryzen parts, the best overclocking motherboards were actually B350, not X370 boards, which had both better bios straps and higher overclocking potential even up to today. If you didn't need the extra PCIe sockets or other features of the 370, the 350s were as good or better without the price premium.
(Score: 2) by Freeman on Friday April 20 2018, @03:48PM (2 children)
You mean this ECS? https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4S844H8205&cm_re=ECS_motherboard-_-9SIA4S844H8205-_-Product [newegg.com]
I built a computer just after Ryzen 7 was released.
Ryzen 7 1700
RX480 8GB (Got this for Way Cheaper than the current asking price!)
32GB RAM
1TB SSD
MSI B350 Tomahawk
Up until recently I was having random BSODs and I couldn't figure out my problem. Just figured MB driver issue or something. Finally got them cleared up. I think what fixed it was swapping the RAM into the A1, B1 slots instead of the A2, B2 slots. I could of sworn the manual said to put the RAM in A2, B2, but whatever. Haven't had a BSOD in over a month.
I was hoping that I would be able to get a Vega at a reasonable price, but not at the prices I've been seeing. I did got a lucky grab on a Vive for about $420 on ebay (after random $50 ebay coupon) and have been quite happy with my purchase. Probably the best intro to VR for gaming was the Portal Stories mod for Portal 2. Been having quite a bit of fun with Star Trek: Bridge Crew as well.
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
(Score: 2) by tibman on Friday April 20 2018, @04:55PM (1 child)
Congrats on your Vive! Haven't heard of ST: Bridge Crew, just picked it up.
If you bought that RX480 right after Ryzen release it was probably 200-240$ I know because i also had an RX480 from last February. They are still worth over 400$ despite being a previous generation middle tier card. Wanted to upgrade to Vega but was waiting for prices to stabilized and they only went up and up. Ended up going Nvidia because of that (and totally regret it).
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(Score: 2) by black6host on Saturday April 21 2018, @05:19AM
I just bought a cheap ass gaming PC for my son. Under $800. Has an RX580 and an i5 in it. At current prices it makes the system a deal, you couldn't buy the other parts and the vid card and build it yourself for much less. I want to take his vid card and swap it for mine :)
(Score: 2) by Marand on Friday April 20 2018, @10:38PM
I ended up with an MSI SLI PLUS x370 board last year due to similar complaints. It still has some of the RGB fanciness but it wasn't targeted at gamers, so it has a bit less flash and better value for the cost. There were some decent options in the b350 boards too, but those were midrange boards with fewer features and missing some things I wanted, like an extra PCI-e 16x slot I could use for GPU passthrough. MSI also has had a better track record than some (ASUS, Gigabyte, ASRock) with regard to Linux support, which was important to me.
The only down side I've noticed is that MSI is generally the last one to put out new BIOS updates, which really hurt the first 4-5 months of Ryzen's launch. In their defense, however, it seems the delays have been due to extra work and testing on each BIOS. The other makers were pushing out a lot of buggy features ASAP and causing grief for users, while the MSI releases lagged a few weeks and ended up stable. Frankly, I prefer the slower releases; the "release fast, fix later" agile development mindset is a bad fit for the most important parts of a working system IMO.
(Score: 2) by toddestan on Saturday April 21 2018, @03:08AM
Actually, that's been one of my complaints about AMD's platform for some time. Sure, the CPU's may be great and I ran AMD CPU's for years, but the dodgy chipsets and general instability of the overall platform made me finally throw my hands up and switch over to Intel.
Though it's kind of too bad Intel exited the motherboard market. Their boards may have been a bit more expensive and perhaps a slight tad slower in the benchmarks, but they generally were pretty solid.
(Score: 2) by linkdude64 on Sunday April 22 2018, @07:43PM
"Works on my machine."
ANUS x370 ROG board has been running rock fucking steady with a one-click OC to 3.9Ghz on a 1600x, 16GB Samsung B-Die memory at 3296Mhz, an ANUS ROG RX580 8GB, nVME SSD, 2x8TB HDDs, 1x4TB HDD, and about a dozen peripherals connected at any given time. Not sure what your configuration is, but I love my system and will continue to be an ASUS fanboy in the future.