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posted by Fnord666 on Friday May 11 2018, @10:54AM   Printer-friendly
from the staycation dept.

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A new study conducted by researchers at the University of Sydney shows that global tourism, a trillion-dollar industry, contributes significantly to greenhouse gas emissions and its carbon footprint is expanding rapidly.

Domestic and international tourism account for eight percent of total worldwide carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions, researchers have found.

The study was based on data from 189 countries around the globe. It showed that the industry's carbon footprint was driven mainly by demand for energy-intensive air travel.

"Tourism is set to grow faster than many other economic sectors," with revenue projected to swell by four percent annually through 2025, said lead-author Arunima Malik, a researcher at The University of Sydney's business school.

Source: https://www.rt.com/business/426248-global-tourism-greenhouse-emissions/


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  • (Score: 4, Funny) by suburbanitemediocrity on Friday May 11 2018, @11:32AM (1 child)

    by suburbanitemediocrity (6844) on Friday May 11 2018, @11:32AM (#678311)

    so it's OK

    • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 11 2018, @09:27PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 11 2018, @09:27PM (#678572)

      I know you are joking but oddly enough there is some truth to it. Without eco tourism the locals would little economic reason not to clear cut and stripmine in an attempt to accelerate development. So while it does contribute carbon it prevents mass release of other sinks and helps to preserve biodiversity.

      No tourists means no reason to care about illegal logging. Scaring off tourists gives even the completely amoral reason to care.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 11 2018, @11:41AM (11 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 11 2018, @11:41AM (#678313)

    I only visit places I can get to by walking or bicycle. Looking at photos and videos from around the world, priceless. <sarcasm>And for everything else there is Mastercard.</sarcasm>

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 11 2018, @11:48AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 11 2018, @11:48AM (#678317)

      I take the bus to and from the grocery store, so I can fuel up and wear my VR helmet.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 11 2018, @12:05PM (8 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 11 2018, @12:05PM (#678323)

      I can bike to Venice :P

      • (Score: 3, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 11 2018, @12:11PM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 11 2018, @12:11PM (#678324)

        I can bike to Niagara Falls. Want to trade VR feeds?

        • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 11 2018, @05:31PM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 11 2018, @05:31PM (#678495)

          Niagara Falls! Slowly I turn. Step by step...

      • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Friday May 11 2018, @01:53PM (4 children)

        by Phoenix666 (552) on Friday May 11 2018, @01:53PM (#678361) Journal

        Yeah, but you're only starting in Santa Monica so what's the big deal? Or are you talking about the other Venice?

        --
        Washington DC delenda est.
  • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 11 2018, @11:45AM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 11 2018, @11:45AM (#678314)

    We need to increase gas emissions else where in order to lessen the % of impact from tourism.

    • (Score: 2) by frojack on Friday May 11 2018, @08:24PM (1 child)

      by frojack (1554) on Friday May 11 2018, @08:24PM (#678556) Journal

      No, no, we all need to stay home in our houses, turn down the thermostat and not go outside except to work in the vegetable garden.

      Remember YOU caused all this trouble, you and your parents.

      --
      No, you are mistaken. I've always had this sig.
  • (Score: 2) by GreatAuntAnesthesia on Friday May 11 2018, @11:48AM

    by GreatAuntAnesthesia (3275) on Friday May 11 2018, @11:48AM (#678318) Journal

    Soon we'll all be going on holiday by rocket instead: https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=18/04/13/0057237 [soylentnews.org]

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 11 2018, @12:34PM (12 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 11 2018, @12:34PM (#678328)

    "Global tourism causes 10th of all greenhouse gas emissions"

    "Domestic and international tourism account for eight percent of total worldwide carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions"

    "The aviation industry accounts for two percent of all human-generated C02 emissions"

    Pick 1 out of 3.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 11 2018, @12:41PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 11 2018, @12:41PM (#678333)

      #2 + #3 = #1
      5 = 1
      50 = 10
      50% of all emissions caused by tourrorists.

    • (Score: 2) by GreatAuntAnesthesia on Friday May 11 2018, @01:38PM (10 children)

      by GreatAuntAnesthesia (3275) on Friday May 11 2018, @01:38PM (#678354) Journal

      The first two stats are incompatible, but the third one could fit with one of the others: Aviation CO2 will only be a part of Tourism CO2: Tourists also burn CO2 via other means of travel, also there is the footprint of their food and accommodation etc...

      • (Score: 4, Insightful) by VLM on Friday May 11 2018, @01:48PM (7 children)

        by VLM (445) on Friday May 11 2018, @01:48PM (#678357)

        They don't eat at home and in a foreign country simultaneously. Also for an economic system built around few are rich and most are poor, that would imply the number of accommodations built for tourists would be a very small additional load on the planet, likewise all the "get no vacation" meme implies very few people are actually traveling resulting in very little tourist traps being built compared to mcmansion construction.

        My gut level guess is statistics abuse such that if I drive 200 miles to visit my mom and along the way we hike at a state park along the way to burn some energy off the kids for the car trip, that's somehow logged into the propaganda as domestic tourism. Or even visiting my MiL on Sunday is getting logged as tourism.

        Sometimes the simplest answer is most likely to be correct, its all made up for clickbait and propaganda fake news purposes. I've noticed lefties and hipsters love travel as a social signalling meme more than having kids, which in the long term is good, and they like to be made to feel guilty in a old fashioned Catholic guilt manner, so it doesn't have to be true if it meets the purpose of making some hipster who went to Costa Rica feel bad and therefore to repent he needs to buy a new eco car or vote for Hillary again or whatever..

        • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Phoenix666 on Friday May 11 2018, @01:59PM (6 children)

          by Phoenix666 (552) on Friday May 11 2018, @01:59PM (#678369) Journal

          Yes, these goofy stories do make the rounds. Yesterday I saw one that claimed "half the world has been destroyed by turning it into farmland!!!" Its map included the Sahara Desert and the American West, which I guarantee you are not wall-to-wall farms. 3-4 years ago it was "Fukushima is poisoning the Pacific Ocean OMG! OMG!"

          Then, such goofy stories are equal opportunity. How many have we seen about how a few million hapless Syrian refugees are totally destroying Europe, a continent with 741 million people? Even if all 18 million Syrians moved to Europe en masse, it'd still be a mere drop in the bucket. But OMG! it's the end of EUROPE!!!

          Me, I think everyone should practice critical thinking.

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          Washington DC delenda est.
          • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 11 2018, @03:29PM (3 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 11 2018, @03:29PM (#678419)

            First of all, it isn't just Syrians. It's lots of Moslems and people from Africa, obviously with lots of overlap. Syrians are a small part of it.

            Second of all, exponential growth determines the result. Native Europeans have less than 2 children per woman, so they are currently on a path to extinction. The invasion force does about 4 children per woman if I remember right, causing population to double with every generation. This won't end well.

            Physical presence in Europe doesn't make people behave in a modern way. People bring their culture, including their desire to do horrible things. Europe now has greatly increased rates of rape, hacked off clitorises, and acid attacks.

            • (Score: 2) by VLM on Friday May 11 2018, @07:52PM (2 children)

              by VLM (445) on Friday May 11 2018, @07:52PM (#678550)

              Second of all, exponential growth determines the result. Native Europeans have less than 2 children per woman, so they are currently on a path to extinction. The invasion force does about 4 children per woman if I remember right, causing population to double with every generation. This won't end well.

              1 in 5 people in Germany are 1st or 2nd generation immigrants right now according to the headlines... why bother traveling to Germany to experience German culture if its Syria culture not German culture? Eventually it makes more sense to go to the local Oktoberfest than to visit the all arab neighborhoods in Berlin.

              • (Score: 1) by suburbanitemediocrity on Friday May 11 2018, @08:34PM

                by suburbanitemediocrity (6844) on Friday May 11 2018, @08:34PM (#678560)

                According to the Washington Post, there are seven times more Irish in the US than in Ireland.

              • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 11 2018, @09:08PM

                by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 11 2018, @09:08PM (#678570)

                That's why I went to Chicago instead of Africa for my safari.

          • (Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Friday May 11 2018, @11:38PM (1 child)

            If you don't rotate your crops your land will turn into barren desert.

            The Sahara was once a jungle.

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            Yes I Have No Bananas. [gofundme.com]
            • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Saturday May 12 2018, @11:37AM

              by Phoenix666 (552) on Saturday May 12 2018, @11:37AM (#678777) Journal

              We do know the Sahara used to be like the Serengeti, but we are not sure farming or grazing malpractice caused the transition. We hypothesize that grazing had a hand in it, because overgrazing contributes to desertification today; however, others argue that doesn't explain it because the Serengeti is full of ungulates that graze like crazy yet it does not turn into the Sahara.

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      • (Score: 1) by Myfyr on Friday May 11 2018, @03:09PM (1 child)

        by Myfyr (3654) on Friday May 11 2018, @03:09PM (#678410)

        The first two stats are incompatible

        Not necessarily. There are greenhouse gasses that are not CO2.
        Of course, I haven't RTFA, so I have no idea if that's what is going on here.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 11 2018, @03:34PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 11 2018, @03:34PM (#678422)

    The left taunts the right:

    1. says the right is failing to care about global warming

    2. says the right never gets out anywhere to see different cultures around the world and -- gasp -- might not even have a passport

    Well now. Us on the right are just saving Earth.

  • (Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Friday May 11 2018, @11:37PM

    The airlines are all crucially sensitive to fuel costs, so they put quite a lot of pressure on the plane manufacturers to engineer ever-increasingly efficient jets.

    A while back I read that passenger jets can fly sixty miles per gallon of fuel. I expect electric cars are similarly efficient when the fuel that's used to generate the juice is taken into account.

    HOWEVER:

    Surely busses and trains are far more efficient than even airplanes.

    Whenever I go to Seattle - mostly for job interviews - I take Amtrack or the Bolt Bus.

    I always take the train when going to or from California.

    Amtrak has a fleet of busses that enables their reach to go beyond the availability of railroad tracks. I once rode in such an Amtrak bus; it was really, really nice.

    Most Amtrack cars have 110 VAC power sockets and free Wifi, however the entire train shares the same IP service so videos are firewalled away.

    --
    Yes I Have No Bananas. [gofundme.com]
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