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posted by takyon on Wednesday May 16 2018, @12:25AM   Printer-friendly
from the dropping-calls-and-wallets dept.

HTC is launching a blockchain-powered phone

Submitted via IRC for SoyCow0245

HTC is developing a new android phone that will be powered by blockchain technology. The phone, named Exodus, will feature a universal wallet and a built-in secure hardware enclave to support cryptocurrencies and decentralized applications.

Source: https://thenextweb.com/hardfork/2018/05/15/htc-blockchain-powered-phone/

Also at The Verge:

To start with, the Exodus phone will have support for bitcoin, ethereum, and other major networks, with more partnerships expected to come later on. HTC envisions a native blockchain network that uses Exodus phones as nodes that support cryptocurrency trading between users. HTC is also reportedly considering allowing people to purchase the Exodus phone with cryptocurrency. No price has been set yet for the phone.

[...] Chen said during the New York City blockchain conference, Consensus 2018, today: "We envision a phone where you hold your own keys, you own your own identity and data, and your phone is the hub."


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In May, HTC first announced that it was working on a blockchain-powered smartphone called the Exodus. The news came as one of the company's more intriguing projects after a poor start to the year. Last year, HTC shipped over 2 million products in Q1. This year, it shipped only 630,000 products in Q1, according to numbers from IDC.

HTC is in pretty poor shape after a round of layoffs last week where the company laid off 1,500 employees in Taiwan in hopes of becoming profitable. Sales in June were down 68 percent, according to the company. Its latest flagship, the U12 Plus, has received largely negative reviews over its odd solid-state buttons and software bugs.

It's a less than stellar time for blockchain, as well. Cryptocurrency prices are low, and last month, bitcoin was tied to price manipulation in a report from researchers at the University of Texas at Austin.

Considering HTC's financial situation, there's a lot at stake with the Exodus phone. Now we have details from HTC's Phil Chen about when we can expect the phone to be released and an estimate on how much it might cost. Although Chen was vague on specifics, he told The Verge that we can expect the phone around the end of this year and we can expect a price announcement by the end of Q3. When I mentioned that the world's first blockchain-powered phone called Finney, created by Sirin Labs, costs $1000, Chen said the price of Exodus would be "comparable."

And it comes with CryptoKitties!

See also: Wikileaks breeds and sells Cryptokitties, gifts them to Trump and Clinton

Previously: HTC Announces a "Blockchain-Powered" Smartphone


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  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 16 2018, @12:33AM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 16 2018, @12:33AM (#680239)

    Oooh, my phone can also be my crypto wallet? So if I lose my phone I'm doubly screwed? Where do I sign up?

    • (Score: 4, Funny) by arslan on Wednesday May 16 2018, @03:09AM

      by arslan (3462) on Wednesday May 16 2018, @03:09AM (#680275)

      Don't fret, all your past transactions & data are available in everyone else's phone, just make sure to tattoo your wallet id on your forehead and you're all set.

    • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Wednesday May 16 2018, @12:50PM

      by FatPhil (863) <reversethis-{if.fdsa} {ta} {tnelyos-cp}> on Wednesday May 16 2018, @12:50PM (#680369) Homepage
      Ive noticed large portions of the locals here in the EU now have those flip phone covers that act as wallets, as when they open them, their bank cards are visible on the now outside part of the flap. This technological solution isn't necessarily any more stupid than the current physical one to the apparent problem of having too many baskets to put ones valuable eggs in.
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  • (Score: 4, Touché) by Arik on Wednesday May 16 2018, @12:33AM (14 children)

    by Arik (4543) on Wednesday May 16 2018, @12:33AM (#680240) Journal
    I bet you it's powered by battery just like all their other models.
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    • (Score: 5, Insightful) by requerdanos on Wednesday May 16 2018, @01:03AM (13 children)

      by requerdanos (5997) on Wednesday May 16 2018, @01:03AM (#680247) Journal

      powered by blockchain

      I bet you it's powered by battery

      This "powered by" garbage needs to stop, immediately.

      My computer is not "powered by" Debian GNU/Linux. It's powered by electricity from the nuke plant a few km away.

      My websites are not "powered by Apache" -- again, it's electricity, from an upstream source.

      That blog isn't "powered by Wordpress" -- it's powered by wires used to pipe in a steady flow of electrons. Electricity. Generated somewhere. (This "powered by Wordpress" nonsense is hardcoded into many of their themes by people who clearly don't understand force nor motion, and who have little respect for those who do.)

      These things, like the HTC phone in question, consume power; they don't provide it.

      Things can be powered by fuel, or stored energy, but not much else.

      • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 16 2018, @01:32AM (7 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 16 2018, @01:32AM (#680252)

        And your post is powered by Autism. Chill out, "Powered by" is another way of letting people know what background services are running. English is a living language, it involves in ways like this or new ways of using phrases to get a point accross. By your logic, we should all go back to Olde English.

        • (Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Wednesday May 16 2018, @01:44AM (1 child)

          by MichaelDavidCrawford (2339) Subscriber Badge <mdcrawford@gmail.com> on Wednesday May 16 2018, @01:44AM (#680256) Homepage Journal

          I once lived in Newfoundland.

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          • (Score: 2) by Gaaark on Wednesday May 16 2018, @02:05AM

            by Gaaark (41) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday May 16 2018, @02:05AM (#680262) Journal

            "Newfie!!"
            --Anthony Bourdain

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        • (Score: 3, Funny) by requerdanos on Wednesday May 16 2018, @12:22PM (3 children)

          by requerdanos (5997) on Wednesday May 16 2018, @12:22PM (#680364) Journal

          Autism, Chill out, "Powered by", bckground services

          Thanks, that helps me out.

          The power for this post was provided by the following.

              0  -  DLs       0:04.86 [kernel]
              1  -  ILs       0:00.03 /sbin/init --
              2  -  DL        0:00.00 [crypto]
              3  -  DL        0:00.00 [crypto returns]
              4  -  DL        0:33.41 [cam]
              5  -  DL        0:00.42 [soaiod1]
              6  -  DL        0:00.42 [soaiod2]
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              9  -  DL        0:00.00 [sctp_iterator]
             10  -  DL        0:00.00 [audit]
             11  -  RL   361517:21.86 [idle]
             12  -  WL       22:46.61 [intr]
             13  -  DL        0:00.03 [geom]
             14  -  DL        2:46.40 [usb]
             15  -  DL        1:37.44 [rand_harvestq]
             16  -  DL        0:12.10 [pagedaemon]
             17  -  DL        0:00.00 [vmdaemon]
             18  -  DL        0:00.04 [pagezero]
             19  -  DL        0:26.55 [bufspacedaemon]
             20  -  DL        1:15.00 [bufdaemon]
             21  -  DL        0:14.24 [vnlru]
             22  -  DL      144:14.62 [syncer]
            342  -  Ss        0:01.16 /sbin/devd
            486  -  Ss        0:04.55 /usr/sbin/syslogd -ss
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            608  -  Is        0:00.01 /usr/local/bin/dbus-daemon --system
            669  -  Ss        0:00.02 /usr/sbin/sshd
            672  -  Ss        0:24.41 sendmail: accepting connections (sendmail)
            675  -  Is        0:00.85 sendmail: Queue runner@00:30:00 for /var/spool/clientmqueue (
            679  -  Is        0:07.66 /usr/sbin/cron -s
            719  -  Is        0:00.01 /usr/libexec/ftpd -D
            744  -  Ss        5:53.50 /usr/local/sbin/hald
            746  -  I         0:00.02 /usr/local/sbin/console-kit-daemon --no-daemon
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          90559  -  Ss        0:00.02 sshd: req [priv] (sshd)
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            733 v1  Is        0:00.01 login [pam] (login)
           6323 v1  I+        0:00.00 -sh (sh)
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          90563  0  Ss        0:00.01 -sh (sh)

          • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 16 2018, @12:46PM (2 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 16 2018, @12:46PM (#680368)

            Sendmail? Jesus, you must be their last remaining user. I'll bet you have an uptime dating to the 90's.

            • (Score: 2) by Bot on Thursday May 17 2018, @06:21AM (1 child)

              by Bot (3902) on Thursday May 17 2018, @06:21AM (#680645) Journal

              > I'll bet you have an uptime dating to the 90's
              I guess so, I see no systemd in PID 1.

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              • (Score: 2) by requerdanos on Thursday May 17 2018, @01:06PM

                by requerdanos (5997) on Thursday May 17 2018, @01:06PM (#680700) Journal

                sendmail???

                no systemd in PID 1

                It goes deeper than that...

                FreeBSD katara 11.1-RELEASE-p9 FreeBSD 11.1-RELEASE-p9 #0: Tue Apr 3 16:59:16 UTC 2018 root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64

        • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Wednesday May 16 2018, @05:56PM

          by DeathMonkey (1380) on Wednesday May 16 2018, @05:56PM (#680469) Journal

          And your post is powered by Autism. Chill out, "Powered by" is another way of letting people know what background services are running.

          And if you follow those turtles all the way down you'll find they're all actually powered by caffeine.

          So, you're both wrong!

      • (Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Wednesday May 16 2018, @01:43AM

        by MichaelDavidCrawford (2339) Subscriber Badge <mdcrawford@gmail.com> on Wednesday May 16 2018, @01:43AM (#680255) Homepage Journal

        There is no doubt in my mind that FoxConn employs far more people in China than Apple does in California.

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      • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday May 16 2018, @02:29AM (1 child)

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday May 16 2018, @02:29AM (#680267) Homepage Journal

        Dammit. I was going to order one of these phones that didn't use electricity. It looked so sweet. Just mine bitcoins, and the phone never needs to be recharged, no need for batteries or cords or anything. Crap.

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        • (Score: 3, Insightful) by captain normal on Wednesday May 16 2018, @05:29AM

          by captain normal (2205) on Wednesday May 16 2018, @05:29AM (#680293)

          It's powered by buzz words. I guess maybe the bullshit creates enough methane to power a cell phone.

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      • (Score: 4, Funny) by mhajicek on Wednesday May 16 2018, @04:42AM

        by mhajicek (51) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday May 16 2018, @04:42AM (#680288)

        You misunderstand. This phone reverses the process of crypto currency mining, extracting energy in the process.

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      • (Score: 2) by Bot on Thursday May 17 2018, @06:25AM

        by Bot (3902) on Thursday May 17 2018, @06:25AM (#680646) Journal

        Power is a generic term often unrelated to energy generation.
        Debian gives you the power of running processes and manage hardware.
        Apache gives you the power of sending lots of js and some actual content to other poor souls.
        Sendmail gives somebody else power to penetrate your system.
        And so on.

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  • (Score: 3, Funny) by tizan on Wednesday May 16 2018, @12:57AM (3 children)

    by tizan (3245) on Wednesday May 16 2018, @12:57AM (#680246)

    It will be powered by cold fusion in your pocket because all this crypto-blockchain mumbo jumbo do use a lot of power.

    Anyday now ...since cold fusion was discovered in 1989.

    • (Score: 2) by frojack on Wednesday May 16 2018, @01:28AM (1 child)

      by frojack (1554) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday May 16 2018, @01:28AM (#680251) Journal

      Much as I agree with you, I don't think you are Powered By any authority to demand something on the internet "stop immediately"

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      • (Score: 2) by requerdanos on Wednesday May 16 2018, @12:30PM

        by requerdanos (5997) on Wednesday May 16 2018, @12:30PM (#680366) Journal

        I don't think you are Powered By any authority

        Right you are. But unlike, say, Spanish, or French, English isn't governed by an authority. Just the force of people's opinions, for better or worse. I am rarely shy in offering mine, for what it's worth, which admittedly often isn't much.

    • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Wednesday May 16 2018, @04:18AM

      by JoeMerchant (3937) on Wednesday May 16 2018, @04:18AM (#680280)

      I knew it was a documentary:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Saint_(1997_film) [wikipedia.org]

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  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 16 2018, @01:20AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 16 2018, @01:20AM (#680249)

    Obligatory dilbert
    http://dilbert.com/strip/2014-03-12 [dilbert.com]

    I for one am excited to see yet another Scott Adams prediction come true.

    But to be honest the article reads more like this one...
    http://dilbert.com/strip/2018-04-20 [dilbert.com]

  • (Score: 3, Funny) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Wednesday May 16 2018, @01:21AM

    by MichaelDavidCrawford (2339) Subscriber Badge <mdcrawford@gmail.com> on Wednesday May 16 2018, @01:21AM (#680250) Homepage Journal

    "It may not be spam but it's awfully pink and salty."
    -- Some guy at Kuro5hin, in response to my article link

    It's not linked from my website yet because I'm not done writing it yet.

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  • (Score: 2) by coolgopher on Wednesday May 16 2018, @01:48AM (4 children)

    by coolgopher (1157) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday May 16 2018, @01:48AM (#680259)

    So is this something they're doing in collaboration with the Exodus wallet [exodus.io] software, or are they blatantly ripping off their name & good will? The article made it sound like the latter.

    • (Score: 2) by MostCynical on Wednesday May 16 2018, @02:13AM (2 children)

      by MostCynical (2589) on Wednesday May 16 2018, @02:13AM (#680264) Journal

      Certainly not the Exodus Foundation [exodusfoundation.org.au]

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      • (Score: 2) by captain normal on Wednesday May 16 2018, @05:36AM (1 child)

        by captain normal (2205) on Wednesday May 16 2018, @05:36AM (#680294)

        Ah, you have hippies in Oz too?

        --
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        • (Score: 2) by MostCynical on Wednesday May 16 2018, @07:57AM

          by MostCynical (2589) on Wednesday May 16 2018, @07:57AM (#680315) Journal

          Mostly middle-aged cardigan-wearers, these days.

          --
          "I guess once you start doubting, there's no end to it." -Batou, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
    • (Score: 2) by jmorris on Wednesday May 16 2018, @02:44AM

      by jmorris (4844) on Wednesday May 16 2018, @02:44AM (#680269)

      Or Gab.ai's "Exodus Protocol" to somehow use the blockchain to make censorship impossible. Everybody is thinking the same "escape" thoughts and colliding in the fairly limited namespace that implies/

  • (Score: 2) by jmorris on Wednesday May 16 2018, @02:51AM (3 children)

    by jmorris (4844) on Wednesday May 16 2018, @02:51AM (#680272)

    If they will actually make a phone were the person who pays the money actually gets to own it, including getting the lowest level keys, I'm interested. Otherwise, pass.

    Offering to unlock the bootloader is a nice gesture from a few vendors to developers, but what if I WANT to lock the phone? Me, not them, not the carrier. An unlocked phone is totally vulnerable to anyone who gets physical possession of it. I want to install my own keys, sign the bootloader and OS image and nobody else gets a copy of the keyring. It can ship with some other keys on the keyring to make initial boot and updates simple but ultimately I want the power to know only my own keys are in there and nobody else's. I understand that they couldn't offer a warranty for loss of access, that is the entire point. Delete their keys and they are out of the picture. They could still offer updates for me to examine, resign and install, just put their normal updates somewhere accessible by a web browser and not just their update util.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 16 2018, @03:11AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 16 2018, @03:11AM (#680276)

      Just get one of the phones that's intended for Android Platform Development. You could load Slackware on it if you're cool to write the necessary drivers.

    • (Score: 2) by captain normal on Wednesday May 16 2018, @05:40AM

      by captain normal (2205) on Wednesday May 16 2018, @05:40AM (#680295)

      I think this is the second time I totally agree with jm. I too want total control on my phone.

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      "It is easier to fool someone than it is to convince them that they have been fooled" Mark Twain
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 16 2018, @03:39PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 16 2018, @03:39PM (#680413)

      yep. if the user has control, this sounds cool to me. even if it doesn't have the coins i'm interested in i'm glad it's in the market.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 16 2018, @01:29PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 16 2018, @01:29PM (#680382)

    About time someone came up with an alternative. Battery technology has been unable to keep up with phone power requirements ever since the smartphone was invented.

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