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posted by Fnord666 on Sunday May 27 2018, @02:28PM   Printer-friendly
from the bye-bye-license dept.

https://arstechnica.com/science/2018/05/doctor-slammed-by-med-board-for-selling-5-homeopathic-sound-waves-for-ebola/

The California medical board is threatening to revoke the license of Dr. William Edwin Gray III for selling homeopathic sound files over the Internet that he claims—without evidence or reason—can cure a variety of ailments, including life-threatening infections such as Ebola, SARS, swine flu, malaria, typhoid, and cholera.

If that can cure me of my old age too, I'm all game! Which button must I press?


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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 27 2018, @02:44PM (18 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 27 2018, @02:44PM (#684822)

    What the fuck should you do to actually get it revoked then? What is the point of having such a license if you can practice any quackery and fraud despite it?

    • (Score: 3, Funny) by realDonaldTrump on Sunday May 27 2018, @03:12PM (13 children)

      by realDonaldTrump (6614) on Sunday May 27 2018, @03:12PM (#684826) Homepage Journal

      Fancy way to say maybe it'll happen. And maybe it won't. Like when they say it's "threatening" to rain. It isn't raining yet. But maybe it will. Or when MS-13 is "threatening" to kill you. They haven't killed you, right? And maybe they won't. But maybe they will.

      And if you open the article -- people never open them -- the Attorney General already accused the Doctor. And the Doctor isn't fighting it. He doesn't care, he's making more money from the homeopathy than from the regular doctoring. And lawyers cost money. Believe me.

      • (Score: 3, Funny) by realDonaldTrump on Sunday May 27 2018, @03:18PM (2 children)

        by realDonaldTrump (6614) on Sunday May 27 2018, @03:18PM (#684828) Homepage Journal

        (cont) He doesn't need a doctoring license to do the homeopathy. Only for regular doctoring. That's in the article. Terrible summary, it's like the submitter just wanted to make fun of the homeopathy. Not tell us about the legal. And the editor didn't edit. But the legal is a big part of the story!!

        • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 27 2018, @11:10PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 27 2018, @11:10PM (#684941)

          We really only understand the cyber round here.

        • (Score: 1) by anubi on Monday May 28 2018, @04:20AM

          by anubi (2828) on Monday May 28 2018, @04:20AM (#685005) Journal

          The DR after his name gives him street cred.

          Otherwise he's just like any other ol con-man.

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      • (Score: 2, Offtopic) by realDonaldTrump on Sunday May 27 2018, @06:24PM (9 children)

        by realDonaldTrump (6614) on Sunday May 27 2018, @06:24PM (#684869) Homepage Journal

        My tweet got modded "Offtopic." Let me tell you, it's more "on topic" than the summary. Revoke license of dumb Moderator!!

        • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday May 27 2018, @07:33PM (8 children)

          by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Sunday May 27 2018, @07:33PM (#684894) Journal

          Have another "Offtopic," dumbass. You're not funny anymore. You're just shitting the place up and wasting valuable database space.

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          • (Score: -1, Troll) by fakefuck39 on Sunday May 27 2018, @09:12PM (5 children)

            by fakefuck39 (6620) on Sunday May 27 2018, @09:12PM (#684914)

            What's this "offtopic" thing you speak of? are you clicking some magic up and down arrows thinking it'll do anything? Are there actually any people here you have moderation shown and don't read at -1? That's like having your information voluntarily censored by random strangers on the internet. Well, I guess you are one of those few who doesn't read at -1 and have moderation hidden to reduce clutter. I've got news for you - your site is reddit, not this site. Do I want to see funny trollish shit or some idiot winning at life on boat or posting pages about how we live on star trek because quartz is a metal?

            Do click more of your buttons please - they're there to keep you occupied so you don't bother me. They really do make a difference - click some more. After you're done, order some ground monkey penis and download Dr Homeo's sound file to fix your ugly.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 28 2018, @04:31AM (4 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 28 2018, @04:31AM (#685006)

              We had a rather nice discussion here several months ago regarding moderation and use of the SPAM mod.

              I am quite pleased that I can set my own preferences to where I get anything that has been typed into this system, regardless of any moderation, except SPAM.

              Most stuff is appropriately moderated, but I find stuff more negatively moderated than how I would have moderated it. Most people have their own idea they want to run up the pole, just to see if anyone will salute. I do it a lot myself.

              I reserve my own right not to salute, but it takes a helluva bad post before I will piss on it.

              Because the SPAM mod is the only mod where one has a good portion of their own dog in the fight, I have yet to see that one incorrectly used, however the other negative moderations are often misnomers for " I Disagree ", which in my book is way insufficient to warrant negative moderation.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 28 2018, @05:59AM (2 children)

                by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 28 2018, @05:59AM (#685021)

                So you think the spam modded stuff is modded correctly and hide it through the filter? How do you know it's modded correctly then? Oh, you still see it and don't use the filter. What's the point of the mod then - seeing spam have a spam tag gives you some kind of personal sense of winning? "Oh, that spam I just read was modded spam - take that spammers"

                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 28 2018, @06:36AM (1 child)

                  by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 28 2018, @06:36AM (#685029)

                  I trust the guy ahead of me who points out a cowpie.

                  I do not need to step in it too.

                  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 29 2018, @06:58PM

                    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 29 2018, @06:58PM (#685800)

                    Oh, absolutely. When it's sunny out I trust that the sky is blue so I don't need to look up and check. That's why if the car in front of me is moving I don't look at the light and trust it's green.

                    So you don't read it then, yet claim the spam mod is modded correctly. Gotcha. Maybe stepping in cowpies is one thing, and logic applied to cowpies has zero to do with reading spam. Idiot.

              • (Score: 2, Offtopic) by realDonaldTrump on Monday May 28 2018, @07:18AM

                by realDonaldTrump (6614) on Monday May 28 2018, @07:18AM (#685037) Homepage Journal

                The OBSTRUCTIONISTS call me a spammer. They call me many things, believe me. And they just hit me with another Spam mod. Right in this topic. Where someone tweeted that we're all old people. And I said, I don't feel old. That's considered Spam, by them. Because I wrote it. Not easy to see, someone put "Funny" after the Spam mod. Gandhi said something very smart, he said first they laugh at you, then they fight you, then they win. But after that, maybe they fight you and then they laugh at you. That's what just happened to me, folks. But they're still HATERS & LOSERS!!!!

          • (Score: 2, Offtopic) by realDonaldTrump on Sunday May 27 2018, @09:46PM (1 child)

            by realDonaldTrump (6614) on Sunday May 27 2018, @09:46PM (#684924) Homepage Journal

            You keep tweeting that. That I used to make you laugh, that I'm not making you laugh anymore. And you follow my journal, you keep saying that in my journal. And other nasty things. It's not a pretty picture. Let me tell you, I'm not here to make you laugh. Or pleasure you in other ways -- although I could give you INCREDIBLE pleasure if I wanted to. As my wife knows. As many many women know. I'm here to win. I'm winning. And if a very nasty woman enjoys it while I'm winning, that's OK. You think I'm here for you, I'm not. Let me tell you, you're the most self centered person I've ever seen in my entire life. You think the rest of us are here just to serve you. We're not. Maybe some of us are. I'm not. You may enjoy my tweets, and you may not. I don't mind if you get your pleasure. We're not babies, we all do it, some with women, some with men, some with cyber. But I'm tweeting for America, for the American people. Because I always, always put America First!!!

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 28 2018, @04:35AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 28 2018, @04:35AM (#685008)

              Wonder when America will be safe again for a guy to admire a woman, or ask her out, without risking a lawsuit?

    • (Score: 2) by SomeGuy on Sunday May 27 2018, @05:15PM (2 children)

      by SomeGuy (5632) on Sunday May 27 2018, @05:15PM (#684853)

      They will revoke the license just as soon as another group of quacks stop telling people that uttering magic words in to the air to an imaginary sky fairy will make them better. Unfortunately billions of people have been molested in to seriously believe this shit. Fuck, these quacks already did the entire listening to the ball gargling babbling of some sky fairy proxy molester that is supposed to magically make sick people better. The only difference here it is though a cell phone. Now that I think of it, they also did the entire drinking magic water thing first.

      Unfortunately the real world sucks, and when you have been through the blender and are laying on an operating room table having your organs cut up and sewn back together, most people would happily accept a magic fairy's schlong in them. And it's cheaper than Obammacare too.

      • (Score: 1) by Ethanol-fueled on Sunday May 27 2018, @06:18PM (1 child)

        by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Sunday May 27 2018, @06:18PM (#684867) Homepage

        Well, if his target market are people who are threatened by ebola and typhoid, then his target market are people who believe that eating powdered gorilla penis will make them more desirable to females.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 27 2018, @11:16PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 27 2018, @11:16PM (#684942)

          They must be a bunch of incels. Ebola only affects incels, so I don't see why we should care about it. It's like AIDS for incels.

    • (Score: 2) by Bot on Monday May 28 2018, @08:10PM

      by Bot (3902) on Monday May 28 2018, @08:10PM (#685288) Journal

      > quackery and fraud
      OTOH it could be K-Pop.
      If Ebola has some musical taste it could really disappear with K-Pop, or Trap. Trap, it's in the name.

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  • (Score: 5, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 27 2018, @03:29PM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 27 2018, @03:29PM (#684830)

    Do you dilute the sound waves 100 times in water? Or air?

    He should get his license revoked for not knowing what homeopathy is in the first place. If you're going to be a quack, at least be an accurate quack.

    • (Score: 2, Offtopic) by realDonaldTrump on Sunday May 27 2018, @07:06PM (1 child)

      by realDonaldTrump (6614) on Sunday May 27 2018, @07:06PM (#684879) Homepage Journal

      My star is the most popular one on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. As everybody knows. And they have a tradition with the stars, we touch the wet cement with our hands and feet, leaving our prints in the cement. Leaving a hole in the cement. The homeopathy with the water is like that. They mix a very special poison with water. Then the water that was touched by the poison, they take that and mix it with more water. They keep doing that until there's very little poison, and a lot of water. But they say it's very special water. Because it touched the poison. Or it touched water that touched the poison. Or, it touched water that touched water that touched the poison. And the poison -- they say -- left its mark on the water. Its print. So that water becomes very special. They call it medicine, I call it water.

      This one is the homeopathy with the MP3. And I didn't see the explanation, but I think it works the same way. Only with cyber. They take a sound, they record it, right? Then they do the MP3 cyber. And it's like making a print -- a cast -- of the sound. It's not the original sound. But it touched that sound in a special way. Through the MP3 process. The sound left its mark. Sometimes you can tell what the original sound was. And sometimes you can't. The original was somebody saying "Laurel." But the MP3 sometimes sounds like "Yanni." And sometimes like "Laurel." Did you hear that one?

      • (Score: 1) by anubi on Monday May 28 2018, @04:41AM

        by anubi (2828) on Monday May 28 2018, @04:41AM (#685009) Journal

        I think the guy saw something on YouTube [duckduckgo.com] and decided to monetize it.

        Having this performed by a real "Doctor" means premium payment expected.

        Maybe even covered by insurance....

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        "Prove all things; hold fast that which is good." [KJV: I Thessalonians 5:21]
    • (Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Sunday May 27 2018, @07:35PM

      by maxwell demon (1608) on Sunday May 27 2018, @07:35PM (#684896) Journal

      I don't think diluting sound waves is hard. Just mix one part sound with 9 parts noise, and you've got a D1. Do it again, and you have a D2. With 16 bit sample resolution, already in D5 there's no original sound left. Since lossy compression further removes parts of the signal, I'd expect it to increase the effect. :-)

      However I'm now scared: Given that the idea of homeopathy is that those highly diluted doses cure illnesses showing those symptoms that the non-diluted substance causes, that implies that the non-diluted sounds must cause Ebola-like symptoms. That should be quite the killer sound! To be safe, I'll only play videos without sound from now on! ;-)

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  • (Score: 4, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 27 2018, @03:34PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 27 2018, @03:34PM (#684831)

    ... last in medical school?

            "Doctor"

  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by requerdanos on Sunday May 27 2018, @03:37PM (10 children)

    by requerdanos (5997) Subscriber Badge on Sunday May 27 2018, @03:37PM (#684833) Journal

    FTFS:

    selling homeopathic sound files

    Okay, that's nutty as trail mix [thehealthymaven.com], granted. But it gets better!

    FTFA: [arstechnica.com]

    Gray claims that in 2014 he “created [a] campaign to treat Ebola via cellphone, curing 3 out of 3 within 4 hours simply by playing the appropriate eRemedy several times in an hour.”

    So not only is he a practicioner of homeopathy (the pathological belief that dilution to oblivion imparts strength [respectfulinsolence.com]), and claiming that the homeopathic properties of a non-cure can be captured in a recording (plausible; if it doesn't work as administered, it should fail to work just as reliably if you just listen to it rather than take it), but now you don't even need the full recording, just that narrow range of voice-inspired frequencies [uoverip.com] that a telephone reproduces.

    Maybe that's an analog to dilution to oblivion?

    And the worst part, of course, is telling people that they can get a 100% Ebola cure rate by sending him $5 and listening to the sound of his bank deposit. No need for vaccines nor medical treatment, no need for sanitary precautions, pfft. Just hire a professional hand-waver over the Internet.

    If you think about it (and if "homeopathy" is among your beliefs, you assuredly didn't), that's a great recipe for expanding the scope and death toll of a given Ebola epidemic. Through this means, homeopathy is actively killing people, something they criticize modern medicine for doing, and something they falsely claim that they don't do.

    • (Score: 2) by BsAtHome on Sunday May 27 2018, @03:46PM

      by BsAtHome (889) on Sunday May 27 2018, @03:46PM (#684834)

      Well, a sucker is born every minute. Better to get rich now then to tell the truth or do the Right Thing(TM).

      It is amazing that people fall for this. On the other hand, desperate people do desperate things. This is so blatant exploitation of people that revoking the license would not be enough. I think fraud charges would be appropriate here.

    • (Score: 3, Touché) by HiThere on Sunday May 27 2018, @06:12PM (8 children)

      by HiThere (866) Subscriber Badge on Sunday May 27 2018, @06:12PM (#684864) Journal

      The unfortunate fact is that modern medicine *is* killing people. Look up "iatrogenic". That they heal more people than they kill doesn't mean that they don't kill people who would otherwise have had a minor complaint.

      Probably the only way around most of this is **EXTREME** sanitation measures. Something like resurfacing the room walls between patients. Less extreme actions have cut down the problem, but not eliminated it. And, of course, that means that the rooms need to be designed to be sanitized. One recent case I heard of was traced to room divider curtains that neither patient had touched.

      So the question becomes, "At what point do the heroic measures cease to be worthwhile?". Different people will give different answers to that question.

      That said, actual homeopathic treatment for actual serious conditions is a lot worse. But I've got a cough syrup that falsely claims to be homeopathic, but is a decent cough syrup. The best I've found that doesn't contain sugar. (Or maybe *they* think the sugar is the active ingredient, so they aren't falsely homeopathic, but only mistaken.)

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      • (Score: 2) by requerdanos on Sunday May 27 2018, @06:29PM (2 children)

        by requerdanos (5997) Subscriber Badge on Sunday May 27 2018, @06:29PM (#684872) Journal

        The unfortunate fact is that modern medicine *is* killing people.

        That's not in doubt nor at issue here. Doctors don't try to hide it and make sleazy lying claims like "medicine is 100% safe and medical procedures are totally not harmful" (instead, they generally give their estimates of the patient surviving the treatment--and it's never 100%). Homeopaths DO make these sleazy lying claims.

        In addition, saying that modern medicine (or the processed foods industry, or air travel, or the secret chemtrail conspiracy, or thinking dirty thoughts) *is* killing people in no way supports the claims of homeopathy. They just aren't connected. That's too far a stretch to even say it's a decent strawman.

        Sure, there are medical procedures with side effects, and sometimes fatal ones.

        That's because medical treatments have a PRIMARY EFFECT, which can possibly heal a patient. Homeopathy can never say that it can heal a patient, from an evidence-based standpoint, but there exist medical treatments which can have a healing effect.

        But what if some medical procedures can kill a patient? Then Homeopathy can never say that it can heal a patient, from an evidence-based standpoint, but there exist medical treatments which can have a healing effect.

        But what if hospitals are dirty and you can catch something there? Then Homeopathy can never say that it can heal a patient, from an evidence-based standpoint, but there exist medical treatments which can have a healing effect.

        But what about this? Ok, in that case, Homeopathy can never say that it can heal a patient, from an evidence-based standpoint, but there exist medical treatments which can have a healing effect.

        But what about so and so? Well, then Homeopathy can never say that it can heal a patient, from an evidence-based standpoint, but there exist medical treatments which can have a healing effect.

        See how it doesn't change?

        So the question becomes, "At what point do the heroic measures cease to be worthwhile?". Different people will give different answers to that question.

        Cost/benefit is always an important question to answer, not just when a problem comes up. And if that answer is evidence-based, as it should be, it will never be "Um, dude, we totally better treat only with homeopathy because it doesn't have the potential for problems with nosocomial infection."

        • (Score: 2) by HiThere on Sunday May 27 2018, @10:58PM (1 child)

          by HiThere (866) Subscriber Badge on Sunday May 27 2018, @10:58PM (#684939) Journal

          Umh...the problem I was addressing wasn't that some of the procedures are dangerous. It's that hospitals are becoming more dangerous in ways that have no connection to what you are being treated for. This is related to the way that some bacteria are becoming resistant to antibiotics, but is actually a separate problem. Hospitals are continually changing their procedures to address the problem, but it's like fixing software bugs...the new fix sometimes opens new holes...and you don't always catch them before they bite you.

          The (great-?)grandparent post wasn't exactly clear about what he meant by medicine being unexpectedly dangerous, but to me he seemed to be dismissing the idea.

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          • (Score: 3, Insightful) by requerdanos on Monday May 28 2018, @01:44AM

            by requerdanos (5997) Subscriber Badge on Monday May 28 2018, @01:44AM (#684970) Journal

            A "nosocomial infection" is an infection contracted in a clinical treatment setting.

            It's one of many reasons that medical treatment isn't 100% safe.

            Homeopoaths often criticize medicine for not being 100% safe, and for even killing its patients at times... Then, they claim that homeopathy is 100% safe.

            However, this is hypocritical because in the case in TFA, promoting homeopathy (i.e. no treatment) as a treatment for Ebola, a highly communicable disease with only about a 50% survival rate even with first rate-treatment, is one of the many cases where homeopathy is much more likely than medical treatment to result in death.

            Some random real-world examples.

            "Michorius Homeopathy" [michorius-homeopathy.com]:

            Homeopathic treatment is 100% safe and very effective... I healed AIDS patients, cancer patients, depression & anxiety patients… I can help you.

            ... They are saying that it's 100% safe to depend on no treatment at all for AIDS and Cancer. That's evil.

            "Homeopathy Safe Medicine" [blogspot.com]:

            Every time a patient begins to take a conventional drug...they are embarking on an equally risky game of Russian Roulette. [If] the homeopath can successfully match the symptoms of illness with a remedy that has a similar symptom picture, the patient will get well, not temporarily but permanently... Even when the wrong remedy is prescribed it will do no harm. There is no Russian Roulette in Homeopathy, just safe, effective and inexpensive treatment of illness.

            ...Their criticism here of the dangers of medical care has as its answer not washing curtains between patients, but saying that depending on homeopathy is totally not Russian roulette.

            The issue is not denying the common-sense fact that there are risks inherent in medical care.

            It's that proponents of something with much higher risk--people with deadly diseases staying away from medical care and believing in homeopathy instead of seeking treatment--criticize lifesaving medical care while they claim that their homeopathic way resulting in death is 100% safe.

      • (Score: 2) by sjames on Monday May 28 2018, @05:19AM (4 children)

        by sjames (2882) on Monday May 28 2018, @05:19AM (#685015) Journal

        Extreme measures would be needed for 100% reduction, but very reasonable measures would us most of the way there. Enforcing hand washing alone would eliminate a lot of the problem. Banning ties goes a long way as well. They could do a lot more for room design. For example, sealing the floor tiles so nothing can grow in the cracks. Likewise, seal the places where fixtures adjoin the walls. The divider curtains should certainly be changed every time a new patient is brought in.

        • (Score: 2) by HiThere on Monday May 28 2018, @06:34PM (3 children)

          by HiThere (866) Subscriber Badge on Monday May 28 2018, @06:34PM (#685262) Journal

          The hospitals that I'm aware of already enforce hand-washing, and most of the other easy steps. They often even use disposable plastic gloves. (I suppose it depends on what they're doing.)

          The problem is bacteria keep evolving. Methods that were safe turn out to have holes that can be evolved through. I don't suppose they'll be able to evolve directly through disposable plastic gloves, but and indirect approach involves changes in the mode of transmission. Perhaps UV will be needed to sterilize the air.

          All that said, currently I generally trust the hospitals I go to. (Not, admittedly, the waiting rooms....they need serious work.) But current safe practices won't continue to be safe, so it's important to catch the leading edge and suppress it. Of course, the basic problem is dense populations mixed with fast transportation. Without that most of these things wouldn't spread. And the very idea of a hospital is an invitation to invasive organisms. But centralized expertise is necessary, and so are sterile environments for many procedures. Also, if we were to live in sterile bubbles, we'd be attacked by our own immune systems.

          There probably isn't a perfect answer, but the optimal answer seems to be to keep watching over things, catch the leading edge of changes, and don't get complacent. Also to accept that perfection doesn't happen in this universe.

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          • (Score: 2) by sjames on Monday May 28 2018, @07:50PM (2 children)

            by sjames (2882) on Monday May 28 2018, @07:50PM (#685284) Journal

            Measures to kill germs outside of the body are much more sure than those to control an infection. At some point, the only way for any microbe to survive the sterilization is to evolve to a point that the human body is no longer a good environment for it. Even extremophiles have their limits and generally, the price of being able to live in the extreme condition is an inability to compete with more typical organisms when the environment is less extreme. No amount of evolution will make a microbe survive incineration.

            I have seen some discussion of atomizing propylene glycol to limit airborne transmission (the PG dessicates bacteria).

            • (Score: 2) by HiThere on Monday May 28 2018, @11:44PM (1 child)

              by HiThere (866) Subscriber Badge on Monday May 28 2018, @11:44PM (#685347) Journal

              The trouble is if people have to be in that same environment. And various spores evolved to resist autoclaves...I don't know how well, but I know that was mentioned when I asked why autoclaves weren't use much anymore.

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              • (Score: 3, Interesting) by sjames on Tuesday May 29 2018, @12:52AM

                by sjames (2882) on Tuesday May 29 2018, @12:52AM (#685375) Journal

                Germs, even resistant ones still die in an autoclave. However, prions aren't destroyed, so surgical instruments need to be disposable anyway. Since autoclaves can be quite expensive to run and maintain, disposables are often cheaper anyway. They are, however still used for processing medical waste so it can be disposed of safely.

  • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 27 2018, @03:55PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 27 2018, @03:55PM (#684836)

    Are you bothered by a chronic medical license? Don't worry, because we have the cure for you! Our medical sound waves can help you get rid of that medical license forever!

  • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 27 2018, @04:50PM (5 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 27 2018, @04:50PM (#684842)

    cure me of my old age

    Die and take your shit news site to the grave with you.

    • (Score: 4, Funny) by takyon on Sunday May 27 2018, @05:13PM (2 children)

      by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Sunday May 27 2018, @05:13PM (#684852) Journal

      We'll find the eRemedy for old age and then you're stuck with us forever.

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      • (Score: 2) by BsAtHome on Sunday May 27 2018, @05:20PM

        by BsAtHome (889) on Sunday May 27 2018, @05:20PM (#684855)

        I though that SN /was/ the eRemedy? Isn't that hum in the background SN eRemmedy-ing my tinnitus?

      • (Score: 2, Offtopic) by realDonaldTrump on Sunday May 27 2018, @07:26PM

        by realDonaldTrump (6614) on Sunday May 27 2018, @07:26PM (#684888) Homepage Journal

        In Bible times a lot of folks only lived to 70. But some (Methuselah) lived a lot longer. Like 900 or something. Crazy!

        I'm 71. And that used to be considered old. Let me tell you, I don't feel old. I have a great sex life, I'm a sex machine. And the White House Doctor -- former, Dr. Jackson -- told me that if I had had a healthier diet over the last 20 years I might live to be 200 years old. I asked him to give me a brain test. Because very nasty people (losers & haters) kept saying I have brain problems. And I proved them wrong, I got a perfect score. 30 out of 30. You want to see brain problems, look at Songbird McCain. He has Cancer Brain. And he's dieing from it. Can we say Cancer Brain McCain? Let me tell you, folks in Arizona picked a couple of real gems. Him and Jeff Flakey. Very DISLOYAL!!

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 27 2018, @05:48PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 27 2018, @05:48PM (#684860)

      Series of contracts dude has finally started wearing out.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 28 2018, @08:21PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 28 2018, @08:21PM (#685292)

      Says the customer.

  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 27 2018, @05:18PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 27 2018, @05:18PM (#684854)

    So loud noises cure Eboloa? So THAT is why blacks are so noisy!

    • (Score: 1, Offtopic) by realDonaldTrump on Sunday May 27 2018, @07:38PM

      by realDonaldTrump (6614) on Sunday May 27 2018, @07:38PM (#684901) Homepage Journal

      I don't think so. People don't know this, they have a lot of black people in Africa. I hear it's the original home of black people. But, they've had a lot of problems with Ebola there. And the black folks there have problems with Ebola.

      I think maybe you're a little bit confused. And maybe you're thinking of Hulk Hogan. That's his stage name, right? But offstage he's known as Terry Bollea. Great guy but if you saw his famous sex "tape," very noisy when he has sex. And he sued over that one, he said he was embarrassed. Let me tell you, he has nothing to be embarrassed about. But he sued -- he got big help from my good friend Peter Thiel -- and he won big money. Very smart move!! Although honestly, it was Peter's idea.

  • (Score: 2) by inertnet on Sunday May 27 2018, @09:30PM (1 child)

    by inertnet (4071) on Sunday May 27 2018, @09:30PM (#684916) Journal

    The sad part to me is that apparently enough people are stupid or desperate enough to fall for scams of this sort.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 28 2018, @04:48AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 28 2018, @04:48AM (#685012)

      Most of us are extremely vulnerable to marketing.

      If we do finally figure it out, we are outcast, excommunicated, or worse while the scammer still has the majority still under his spell.

      Most of us are quite docile and quite readily "go with the flow", "be a team player", or whatever the phrase of the day is that describes being an obedient sheeple, and we will do this, even if we know its wrong and will lead to no good.

  • (Score: 1) by CZB on Sunday May 27 2018, @09:48PM (1 child)

    by CZB (6457) on Sunday May 27 2018, @09:48PM (#684925)

    At least its a clever scam, it the sounds don't cure you, you just need to pay more for a special stereo.
    I'm surprised there haven't been more of these.

    • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 28 2018, @01:34PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 28 2018, @01:34PM (#685122)

      You mean, now homeopaths and audiophile equipment producers can go together?

      Hmmm … completely new opportunities there. Not only can you sell special amplifiers that are optimized to carry homeopathic healing sounds, no, you can also go the other way round and sell homeopathic-gold plated cables for the potentised audio experience!

  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by VLM on Monday May 28 2018, @01:34PM

    by VLM (445) on Monday May 28 2018, @01:34PM (#685120)

    Must be fast service to save cholera victims...

    Which brings up the next point that for most of the listed diseases all you can do to treat them is make the victim and especially the victim's family feel better and in that sense its no ripoff at all.

    Most of the slapdown is essentially bill cramming as a semi-fraud. Say you're terminally ill and just chillin or in chemo or something, and the doc offers you a religious phamplet or some pr0n or whatever and says hope you feel better. Thats OK. Next level is saying this Jesus tract or pr0n mag isn't going to buy itself and if you want to toss a fiver in the collection basket on the way out I'm not gonna stop you. Next level up which is getting massive negative coverage, is a line item on the insurance bill or CC charge for Jesus phamphlet or pr0n mag.

    This is also perilously close to entertainment piped into MRI machines. All you need is a doc suggesting that maybe Bach is more relaxing for cancer patients whereas Beethoven is more relaxing for stoke patients and by the way if you didn't bring your own phone you can rent music for $5 and oh shit its on "doctor prescribes classical music to cure cancer board recommends burning at stake and cancelling license" When the real problem is blurring the lines of "this is a formal medical procedure" with "this might make you feel better about the whole dying thing" and BTW here is a $5 insurance charge for it.

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