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posted by martyb on Monday June 11 2018, @01:01AM   Printer-friendly
from the I-know-where-you-were dept.

A feature called Significant Locations collects a detailed history of places you visit on a regular basis. The feature can be disabled via Settings > Privacy > Location Services > System Services > Significant Locations. The feature can be disabled, and history of data collected can be deleted. Apple claims that Significant Locations are encrypted and cannot be read by anyone except the phone owner. Yet, most iPhone users are unaware that their phone records their current location and calculates which locations are significant. Why hasn't Apple made people more aware of this potential violation of their privacy?


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  • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 11 2018, @01:03AM (1 child)

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    • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 11 2018, @01:06AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 11 2018, @01:06AM (#691237)

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  • (Score: 2, Redundant) by requerdanos on Monday June 11 2018, @01:07AM (5 children)

    by requerdanos (5997) Subscriber Badge on Monday June 11 2018, @01:07AM (#691238) Journal

    Why hasn't Apple made people more aware of this potential violation of their privacy?

    It's hard to take this seriously. You are saying something on the order of "Why doesn't this manufacturer tell people their products do undesirable things and they should stay far away from them?"

    But I'll give it a try. The answer is complicated.

    The "Easy" part of it is that they will sell more products by focusing on the handy, trendy, helpful side of such misfeatures than by focusing on criticizing them.

    But there's also a component of company culture. People who work at any given company probably have a need to believe that their products are good, and helpful, and not malicious, otherwise, if they have any conscience, they might have trouble sleeping at night. So even if there is some cognitive dissonance, people still tend to lean towards the good and helpful things that they do in order to make their lives happier.

    If the product starts targeting and murdering helpless [insert downtrodden segment of society here], then even such a person will likely reconsider and give some attention to the bad. But for just creepy stalking behaviors? Could go either way, but probably not.

    • (Score: 2) by captain normal on Monday June 11 2018, @01:41AM (2 children)

      by captain normal (2205) on Monday June 11 2018, @01:41AM (#691244)

      Google does this with Android and with most of their apps. You are supposed to be able to control this tracking , but none of their directions to do so seem to work. The problem seems to that Google has become too big. There are too many different departments overlapping in development and no oversight on how it works on the consumer level.

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      • (Score: 2) by frojack on Monday June 11 2018, @02:02AM (1 child)

        by frojack (1554) on Monday June 11 2018, @02:02AM (#691254) Journal

        but none of their directions to do so seem to work

        The all work for me. I periodically delete all my tracking data, after saving placemarks I want to keep.
        Then I let it build up again as I use those features of geolocation I want.

        I use to do this for ad-blocking, but now
        that I run uBlock Origin 24/7 I worry about those ads less and less.

        I'm interested in knowing EXACTLY what you tried that makes you say it doesn't work.

        https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/3118687?hl=en [google.com]

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 11 2018, @01:22PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 11 2018, @01:22PM (#691378)

          How do you know your personal data is actually deleted?
          We live in an age where data is the new gold.

    • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 11 2018, @02:30AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 11 2018, @02:30AM (#691266)
      If the phone tracks you, it's pointless to complain that it also calculates where you stay more. The latter is directly derived from the former.
    • (Score: 2) by TheRaven on Monday June 11 2018, @06:29PM

      by TheRaven (270) on Monday June 11 2018, @06:29PM (#691530) Journal
      How about because most people don't care? I don't mind my phone recording my location, I mind my phone allowing anyone other than me and explicitly authorised programs under my control to access that data. Tracking my location and storing it on device, encrypted really doesn't seem like a problem to me. Tracking my location and sending it to Google does (which is why my Android phone runs LineageOS with most of the Google stuff ripped out).
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  • (Score: 0, Offtopic) by realDonaldTrump on Monday June 11 2018, @01:44AM (2 children)

    by realDonaldTrump (6614) on Monday June 11 2018, @01:44AM (#691246) Homepage Journal

    The human body is like a battery, folks. We're born with a certain amount of energy. When we waste it on exercise, we become VERY SLOW & TIRED. I've always been a great athlete -- I was the best baseball player in New York, the Red Sox were looking at me very seriously. But when the bone spurs hit I decided to go into real estate instead. And going into business -- now politics -- has done wonders for my stamina. I'll be 72 next week (big hint there, folks), I feel as good today as I did when I was 30. I still play a little golf. I've played with Tiger Woods and Dustin Johnson, the world's top golfers. And sometimes I wrestle -- I showed Vince McMahon who's the boss. And shaved his head. I'm a top athlete because I don't exercise.

    • (Score: 1, Offtopic) by realDonaldTrump on Monday June 11 2018, @02:01AM

      by realDonaldTrump (6614) on Monday June 11 2018, @02:01AM (#691253) Homepage Journal

      (cont) So many of my athlete friends -- the ones that exercise, and the ones that don't -- are thinking about Fit Bit. To show off their cyber smarts. And to track their movements for the Social Media. Great to know that iphone can do that too. Thanks Apple, thanks Tim!!!!

    • (Score: 0, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 11 2018, @02:25AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 11 2018, @02:25AM (#691265)

      Now that you are in Singapore, here's your chance -- challenge Rocketman to a few rounds of sumo wrestling! Show him who's boss.

  • (Score: 2) by Fnord666 on Monday June 11 2018, @02:39AM (2 children)

    by Fnord666 (652) on Monday June 11 2018, @02:39AM (#691267) Homepage
    This was previously known as Frequent Locations and has been a [businessinsider.com] thing [bgr.com] since 2015 at least. It's even in the same location in the settings menus.
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 11 2018, @04:57AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 11 2018, @04:57AM (#691289)

      they bayesians were upset with the frequentist locations, so adjusted their prior significants

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 11 2018, @12:44PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 11 2018, @12:44PM (#691371)

      They renamed it for the usual reason of software and business renaming to avoid the negativity associated with the previous name?

  • (Score: 2) by isostatic on Monday June 11 2018, @11:25AM

    by isostatic (365) on Monday June 11 2018, @11:25AM (#691353) Journal

    > iPhone Always Tracks your Movements

    > The feature can be disabled, and history of data collected can be deleted

    So which is it? Always, or "By default"? I've just checked my phone, and it's set to "Off".

    The cell network is keeping track of where I am and I have no control over that other than turning it off

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