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Letter to judge reveals 731 pages of messages, call logs uncovered on one of two phones.
[...] The letter to Judge Kimba Wood stated that "the Government was advised that the FBI's original electronic extraction of data from telephones did not capture content related to encrypted messaging applications, such as WhatsApp and Signal... The FBI has now obtained this material."
In a letter to the presiding judge in the case against Michael Cohen, President Donald Trump's long-time personal attorney, the US Attorney's Office for the Southern District of New York revealed today that it had obtained additional evidence for review—including a trove of messages and call logs from WhatsApp and Signal on one of two BlackBerry phones belonging to Cohen. The messages and call logs together constitute 731 pages of potential evidence. The FBI also recovered 16 pages of documents that had been shredded, but it has not yet been able to complete the extraction of data from the second phone.
This change is likely because of the way the messages are stored by the applications, not because the FBI had to break any sort of encryption on them. WhatsApp and Signal store their messages in encrypted databases on the device, so an initial dump of the phone would have only provided a cryptographic blob. The key is required to decrypt the contents of such a database, and there are tools readily available to access the WhatsApp database on a PC.
(Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 17 2018, @01:49PM (15 children)
Member when Ars had cool tech articles? I do. Now they have regurgitated political articles. With implications and innuendos. The *implication* is this man encrypted his phones to hide things. You know the secondary function of a blackberry the main one being a email phone. The same kind Former President Obama praised and the same kind Hillary Clinton had smashed with a hammer when it became clear she needed to cough up those emails. The same emails she ordered her IT guy to wipe out.
But let us ignore the fact that Muller is breaking the 4th, 5th and 6th amendments to basically topple a sitting president. Ignoring the IG report this week with its scathing review of how the FBI was not trying to protect us. But themselves and Hillary Clinton and Obama. When this ends up in front of the Supreme court (and it will) I suspect to hear a scathing review of the misconduct that is going on here and pretty much everything thrown out.
If you want to understand what is going on watch this (sorry for the length). He lays out exactly what is going on and why. He knows he used to help write this sort of garbage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODXgGS50AVY [youtube.com]
(Score: 5, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 17 2018, @02:29PM (11 children)
Member when you voted for a lyig cheating scumbag? We member!
#SAD that you only vare about partisan law breaking
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 17 2018, @03:15PM (9 children)
Member when you voted for a lyig cheating scumbag?
Well, if that's all you people nominate, that's all you're gonna get! Liars and cheaters win for a reason. And that reason is in the mirror!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 17 2018, @04:02PM (2 children)
Don't blame me. I voted for Kodos.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 18 2018, @02:07AM
And then She Lost!!!
Lock her up! Lock her up! Lock her up!
Kang! Kang! Kang!
(Score: 2) by Webweasel on Monday June 18 2018, @12:44PM
IT DOES NOT MATTER WHICH ONE OF US YOU VOTE FOR, YOUR PLANET IS DOOMED EITHER WAY.
Priyom.org Number stations, Russian Military radio. "You are a bad, bad man. Do you have any other virtues?"-Runaway1956
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 17 2018, @04:55PM (5 children)
Hey i would have voted for Sanders and i did vote 3rd party, so suck a dick. Unless youre gay, then luck a vag.
I probabky didnt need to include the qualifier, but hey gay people can be shitty too.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 17 2018, @05:56PM (4 children)
Always with the anecdotal bullshit. Well, fine, then blame your friends and neighbors, not the scumbag who wins the vote.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 17 2018, @08:22PM (3 children)
"Member when you voted for a lying cheating scumbag"
Sounds like blaming the voters to me! But go ahesd, suck on Trumps teat (hes got some impressive man boobs) some more, maybe youll get some nutritional cheeto dust.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 17 2018, @08:26PM (2 children)
Yes, I am blaming the voters! They made Trump president, in case you didn't notice. He couldn't do it without them.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 18 2018, @03:34AM (1 child)
Are you schizophrenic?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 19 2018, @03:26AM
No. Are you stupid? Or just in denial? The voters gave us Trump. There is no one else to blame for that.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 17 2018, @03:58PM
Member that Trumps most vehement cheerleaders were the Clinton campaign? [splinternews.com] We member and they got the president they deserved!
(Score: 0, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Sunday June 17 2018, @03:20PM (1 child)
Good video. Unfortunately, the people who need most to watch it, won't. And, if they did watch it, they wouldn't understand a bit of it.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 17 2018, @04:42PM
The Horror! [youtube.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 17 2018, @09:53PM
What are you doing here? I thought the Judge threw you into jail for witness tampering.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 17 2018, @03:03PM (7 children)
Mueller is violating attorney-client privilege on purpose. This is his way to get revenge on anyone who dares to serve as Trump's lawyer. It keeps Trump from being able to hire a good lawyer in the future, because no lawyer would want to put up with his office being raided and all his electronics illegally swiped. The violation is also intended to ensure that Trump feels unable to meaningfully disclose things to his lawyers, impeding the ability to mount a legal defense.
If this should become the norm in your judicial system, we're in deep trouble. Picture being accused of a crime, but feeling unable to disclose things to your lawyer due to the fact that the prosecution might raid his office.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by fritsd on Sunday June 17 2018, @03:36PM (3 children)
I don't understand US law, so I had to resort to Wikipedia: sorry!
It had a paragraph on when attorney-client privilege can be overruled:
When the privilege may not apply [wikipedia.org]
(Note it said: "may")
*IF* Donald Trump contacted his consigliere (a nice proper word for advisor, surely??) to "get rid of" some of his problems, like to muzzle and threaten Stormy Daniels so that she could not jeopardize his election, then *maybe* he asked for something that broke the law. Like the law to not get death threats "shame for your daughter if something bad were to happen to you". Either that didn't really happen, or Michael Cohen organized that on his own initiative, or his client Donald Trump asked him to.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 17 2018, @04:57PM
Sounds like a fun game, who is worse? The lawyer? Or the cuck he rode in on? No way thas t daughter came from that doughboy,also explains why fucko has such incestuous thoughts.
(Score: 4, Informative) by PartTimeZombie on Sunday June 17 2018, @09:54PM (1 child)
A nice explanation of why Mr. Trump's former lawyer is in trouble here, but the A/C was trying to explain why he can't get a good lawyer.
As we are all aware, it's really because he doesn't listen and won't pay.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 17 2018, @11:14PM
Which explains how and why he ended up with Cohen. Only a greedy and ethically bankruot person would take on such a risk since the connections could be manipulated for his own gain. I hope he doesnt have to weigh his life against giving up Trump, that selfish prick would probably roll over unless some "nameless associate" is likely to off him.
(Score: 5, Informative) by choose another one on Sunday June 17 2018, @04:15PM (2 children)
BS. Mueller doesn't get to do that, on purpose or otherwise - the court approved "taint team" and special master decide what is or is not privileged before Mueller or his team get to see it. Only they can violate the privilege. Mueller _cannot_ violate it, because he can _only see_ what the court (via the special master) has already decided is _not_ privileged. This is long-established standard practice. This is hardly the first time a lawyer has been raided - even if Trump thinks it is.
Also, the privilege _is_ limited and does not protect any communications about the commissioning of a crime (it does protect communication about crimes already committed). This is standard legal practice in the US and has apparently been so for years, decades in fact, and the system hasn't collapsed and the sky hasn't fallen.
To quote SCOTUS from 1933 ( https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/289/1# [cornell.edu] ):
See also: https://www.lawfareblog.com/michael-cohen-attorney-client-privilege-and-crime-fraud-exception [lawfareblog.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 17 2018, @08:24PM
The 1930's called, they want their law back. Oh I mean, FAKE NEWS.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 17 2018, @08:25PM
The nutters like to talk about Trump Derangement Syndrome and i think it is just another example of their projecting their own issues on to others. Thanks for calling out the bullshit straw man since these fools just believe everything Fox and Friends tells them.
(Score: 2) by ants_in_pants on Monday June 18 2018, @01:21AM
password protect your signal database
-Love, ants_in_pants