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posted by mrpg on Friday June 29 2018, @05:40AM   Printer-friendly
from the ohoh dept.

Google Duplex really works and testing begins this summer

In a restaurant in Mountain View, California yesterday, Google gave several small groups of journalists a chance to demo Duplex. If you don't recall, Duplex is the AI system designed to make human-sounding voice calls on your behalf so as to automate things like booking restaurant tables and hair appointments. In the demo, we saw what it would be like for a restaurant to receive a phone call — and in fact each of us in turn took a call from Duplex as it tried to book a reservation.

The briefings were in service of the news that Google is about to begin limited testing "in the coming weeks." If you're hoping that means you'll be able to try it yourself, sorry: Google is starting with "a set of trusted tester users," according to Nick Fox, VP of product and design for the Google Assistant. It will also be limited to businesses that Google has partnered with rather than any old restaurant.

The rollout will be phased, in other words. First up will be calls about holiday hours, then restaurant reservations will come later this summer, and then finally hair cut appointments will be last. Those are the only three domains that Google has trained Duplex on.

The demos we saw had many of the same elements that made the original demonstration at Google IO so impressive: the voice sounded much more human than normal, complete with ums and ahhs. It also featured something we didn't hear last May: each call started with an explicit statement that the call was being recorded. There were a few variations on the disclosure, but they all included some indication that you were talking to a machine and the call was being recorded. For example, one call began with "Hi, I'm calling to make a reservation. I'm Google's automated booking service, so I'll record the call. Uh, can I book a table for Sunday the first?"

Also at Ars Technica.

Previously: Google Duplex: an AI that Can Make Phone Calls on Your Behalf


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Google has demonstrated an AI assistant that can make phone calls on your behalf, speaking to the human on the other end of the line. The company showed off the capability by playing a recording of a phone call it claims was between its chatbot and a hair salon:

Onstage at I/O 2018, Google showed off a jaw-dropping new capability of Google Assistant: in the not too distant future, it's going to make phone calls on your behalf. CEO Sundar Pichai played back a phone call recording that he said was placed by the Assistant to a hair salon. The voice sounded incredibly natural; the person on the other end had no idea they were talking to a digital AI helper. Google Assistant even dropped in a super casual "mmhmmm" early in the conversation.

Pichai reiterated that this was a real call using Assistant and not some staged demo. "The amazing thing is that Assistant can actually understand the nuances of conversation," he said. "We've been working on this technology for many years. It's called Google Duplex."

There is already a debate about whether this is a good idea:

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Google's Duplex AI could kill the call center

Google is reportedly shopping its Duplex AI system around as a tool for call centers, according to The Information, including a large insurance company.

Duplex would handle simple calls for the insurance company, and if the customer started asking complex questions the bot can't handle a human would step in, according to the report. However, it's unlikely that AI research will cease after mastering simple conversations, meaning call centers could one day be largely automated using this technology.

[...] Update: A Google spokesperson reiterated that Duplex is only being tested as a consumer technology for now, and that the company isn't testing it for enterprise. The entire statement is below:

We're currently focused on consumer use cases for the Duplex technology and we aren't testing Duplex with any enterprise clients. As we shared last week, Duplex is designed to operate in very specific use cases, and currently we're focused on testing with restaurant reservations, hair salon booking, and holiday hours with a limited set of trusted testers. It's important that we get the experience right and we're taking a slow and measured approach as we incorporate learnings and feedback from our tests.

Also at Techspot and CNET.

Previously: Google Duplex: an AI that Can Make Phone Calls on Your Behalf
Google Starts "Limited Testing" of Google Duplex AI System


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  • (Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Friday June 29 2018, @05:43AM (1 child)

    LOL: train it with the Unabomber Mainfesto.

    Quite likely one may obtain high quality audio reckordings not just of Dr. Kaczinski's trial but all of his preliminary hearings as well.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 29 2018, @10:32AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 29 2018, @10:32AM (#700193)

      Train it with Downfall meme videos.

      This is Google AI. Uh, Steiner! Steiner! Steiner! Uh, you cowards! Traitors!

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 29 2018, @06:10AM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 29 2018, @06:10AM (#700142)

    So google wants to collect voice samples and tie them to identities?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 29 2018, @06:43AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 29 2018, @06:43AM (#700149)
    • (Score: 1) by Ethanol-fueled on Friday June 29 2018, @11:32PM

      by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Friday June 29 2018, @11:32PM (#700441) Homepage

      Exactly. I pointed out in the previous related discussion that ditzy valley-girl was effective against a real ditzy valley-girl. Also, if it can pre-emptively detect that the caller on the other-end is an ESL (English as a Secondary Language) speaker, then it can more safely use a personality more unlike the person at the receiving end.

      They're using the ol' salesman trick - emulate the mannerisms, vocabulary, and sentence-structure of the person you are trying to persuade. This is a subtle and insidious method of flattery when direct flattery triggers your mark's defense mechanisms. If this were a real-life robot, it would be clicking a pen everytime it saw you smile, then click that pen everytime it wanted to convince you to enter into that beneficial partnership, or have sex with you, or something.

      Do not fall for Jewgle's bullshit. Should you suspect the person on the other end is a Google bot, then state out of nowhere that Sergei Brin is a womanizing Jew. The limitations of their so-called "AI" will soon become clear, because that AI was programmed by humans who believe in political correctness. That is their weakness. That is how you catch them off-guard.

  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by SomeGuy on Friday June 29 2018, @08:47AM (7 children)

    by SomeGuy (5632) on Friday June 29 2018, @08:47AM (#700167)

    Really, what the fuck is the point of this thing? It makes a call for you because some dickhead wasn't want to talk to a person themselves? And they expect some poor shlocks to take robocalls all day?

    When some robot calls me, I just hang the fuck up. I don't talk to machines unless I'm screaming at them. Personally, I get royally pissed off even when I call some number and their automated switching shit insists that I *SAY* something rather than just pushing a button.

    ...actually that is probably exactly what they plan to use it for. Welcome to our new Google Robocall overlords!

    "Hey, Google Robocall! You will being calling over 9000 people and being saying you are from Microsoft Tech support and their computer is having a virus".

    Ring, Ring, Ring...

    "Hi, I'm calling to annoy the fuck out of you. I'm Google's retarded AI shit, so I'll record the call. Uh, can you please kill me?"

    • (Score: 3, Touché) by takyon on Friday June 29 2018, @09:51AM (1 child)

      by takyon (881) <{takyon} {at} {soylentnews.org}> on Friday June 29 2018, @09:51AM (#700182) Journal

      It's for the truly antisocial. So maybe half the user/anonbase.

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    • (Score: 2) by rigrig on Friday June 29 2018, @01:49PM (1 child)

      by rigrig (5129) <soylentnews@tubul.net> on Friday June 29 2018, @01:49PM (#700229) Homepage

      And they expect some poor shlocks to take robocalls all day?

      No, they expect to launch another AI for businesses that takes calls, so currently they are
      1. gaining experience with call-handling AI
      2. trying to get people to use their system for making those calls, since obviously it should at least be able to handle those well.

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    • (Score: 2) by archfeld on Friday June 29 2018, @06:24PM

      by archfeld (4650) <treboreel@live.com> on Friday June 29 2018, @06:24PM (#700308) Journal

      You don't stand to make a buck on the product. As a business owner I don't care how the appointment is made just as long as it IS made. As a user I'd even find it convenient if the service would call up, navigate the proper VRU channel, wait on hold, then hand off the call to me when a person was available.

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    • (Score: 2) by darkfeline on Friday June 29 2018, @07:41PM

      by darkfeline (1030) on Friday June 29 2018, @07:41PM (#700324) Homepage

      they expect some poor shlocks to take robocalls all day?

      Are you talking about the service providers? They don't really care whether there's a human or a robot on the other end, as long as they're getting business. This allows businesses to integrate with online booking services without having to upgrade their "person on a phone taking orders".

      I don't talk to machines unless I'm screaming at them. Personally, I get royally pissed off even when I call some number and their automated switching shit insists that I *SAY* something rather than just pushing a button.

      No problem, in the future you can push a button and Duplex will say it for you. Hell, Duplex can talk to the machine entirely for you.

      Welcome to our new Google Robocall overlords!

      Robocalls (unsolicited) are regulated and basically illegal in the US (a business providing a business number is implicitly soliciting business calls). Also, did you have a point to make? All I can tell is "God, I hate robots so much. Other people shouldn't be allowed to use a robot to book appointments over the phone".

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    • (Score: 1) by Ethanol-fueled on Friday June 29 2018, @11:46PM

      by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Friday June 29 2018, @11:46PM (#700449) Homepage

      The whole point of this schlock is that they will train their AI and audio signal-processing methods to be indistinguishable from humans, so if you don't think it's a robot then you will bother to listen. The advantage they have in this particular application is that audio transmitted over cell lines (and landlines, for that matter) experiences a loss of fidelity.

      On the rare occasion I make reservations, I'm not simply just telling them to book me. I'm also listening for background noise and other factors which may influence my decision. For example, say I call in a reservation 2-3 hours in advance, and if there is already background noise, then I can assume the place is too noisy for that first date with somebody who hates noise, even though that is the kind of food she likes.

      Also, really?! People are so lazy and antisocial that they cannot book a reservation in person? We're gonna see a lot of pissed-off Gooks who hear a Gookey-sounding reservation only to see a White woman show up to the nail-appointment. And as any White woman with half a brain knows, Gooks are the best at nails but the worst at trying to disguise the fact that they are badmouthing White woman in question while she is having her nails done. This is also why I like the electronics industry, because Gook women call themselves Min Le Tran Nguyen instead of Evelyn or Rosemary Nguyen.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 29 2018, @08:53AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 29 2018, @08:53AM (#700168)

    Lisa: You had to be big shots didn't you. You had to show off. When are you gonna learn that people will like you for who you are, not for what you can give them. Well, in your race for power and glory, you forgot one small detail.

    Wyatt: We forgot to hook up the doll.

    Lisa: You forgot to hook up the doll.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 29 2018, @10:29AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 29 2018, @10:29AM (#700192)

    ... this is Google AI. Uh, you suck. Uuhhh huh huh. Uuuuhhhh huh huh.

    Yeah! Yeah! You suck! You SUCK! M heh heh! Heh heh! M heh heh!

  • (Score: 2) by takyon on Friday June 29 2018, @11:18AM (1 child)

    by takyon (881) <{takyon} {at} {soylentnews.org}> on Friday June 29 2018, @11:18AM (#700204) Journal

    Hi, I'm calling to order a pizza. I'm Google's automated human interaction service, so I'll record the sound of your voice. Also, your job is next on the chopping block. Uhhhhhhh, can I get that pizza... 🅱️ONELESS?

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    • (Score: 1) by Ethanol-fueled on Friday June 29 2018, @11:56PM

      by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Friday June 29 2018, @11:56PM (#700454) Homepage

      Hey, this is Tyrone from Domino's. FuckyouPIZZAcuntPineappleCanadianBacon. I'll have your pie ready in 30 minutes. Order received and confirmed. Have a nice day!

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