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posted by chromas on Saturday August 25 2018, @08:48PM   Printer-friendly
from the irc.sylnt.us dept.

Jarkko Oikarinen wrote Internet Relay Chat (IRC) at the Department of Information Processing Science of the University of Oulu, in Finland, 30 years ago. Even today, people are still using IRC and it is an essential communication tool for many distributed teams.


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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 25 2018, @09:07PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 25 2018, @09:07PM (#726354)
    It's still being continually reinvented, each iteration worse than the last.
  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 25 2018, @09:15PM (13 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 25 2018, @09:15PM (#726357)

    People still use IRC? I thought everyone uses Discord now. Who knew?

    • (Score: 1) by Ethanol-fueled on Saturday August 25 2018, @09:31PM (1 child)

      by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Saturday August 25 2018, @09:31PM (#726360) Homepage

      Many years ago I met a man who was into the "darker side" of the internet. He frequented BBS's and was into warez, carding, smurphing, shell accounts, and all those other things that were cool before MTV made specials about them.

      The common factor of all that was IRC. There were plenty of gentlemens' agreements about things back then, such as IRC fights in which people would take channels (be a hostile force in assuming control over other's) and whatnot. I cannot claim to be even close to an expert, but in developing the negroid bot LaDarius, I learned a great deal about how IRC actually works. Somewhere, in some private IRC channel, Russian hackers are discussing how to influence the next American election, like that time they got Donald Trump elected. Such is the power of IRC, and it will never die.

      • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 26 2018, @02:02AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 26 2018, @02:02AM (#726418)

        God damn are you ever stupid, boy!

    • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 25 2018, @09:54PM (4 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 25 2018, @09:54PM (#726365)

      Tried to make a Discord account over a VPN and they asked for a phone number. It's probably the same shit sandwich for Tor users.

      • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 25 2018, @10:25PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 25 2018, @10:25PM (#726374)

        It's proprietary, what did you expect?!

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 25 2018, @10:30PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 25 2018, @10:30PM (#726376)

          The proprietary of 10 years ago

      • (Score: 3, Informative) by Pino P on Sunday August 26 2018, @12:15PM (1 child)

        by Pino P (4721) on Sunday August 26 2018, @12:15PM (#726520) Journal

        If your IP address or address prefix has had a history of abuse, and you have no phone or only a landline, this post on reddit [reddit.com] suggests contacting a human at support@ to arrange other means of verifying that you are human.

        IRC is often little different depending on the server operator. You can't register on Freenode's NickServ through some privacy tools because of past abuse.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 26 2018, @12:32PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 26 2018, @12:32PM (#726525)

          I did send a message at the time, politely, and got back some form of a "no". They may not have liked Proton Mail. I can't think of any other form of verification hoop that I would want to jump through. They already made their stance clear. They want to block or track bots and trolls, so privacy doesn't exist on Discord.

    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by richtopia on Saturday August 25 2018, @11:07PM (1 child)

      by richtopia (3160) on Saturday August 25 2018, @11:07PM (#726389) Homepage Journal

      Yes, everyone uses Discord or Slack or Google Hangouts or Facebook Messenger or WhatsApp or {insert alternative here}. These services are convenient, but being hosted on central servers means they can die. IRC demonstrates the resilience of an open, self-hosted design. There may be alternatives with more features available, but until you want to migrate you can keep using your IRC server as-is.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 26 2018, @12:55AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 26 2018, @12:55AM (#726408)

        Jabber. ( not Cisco's abomination, the real thing ).

        Distributed. Supports everything IRC does and more.

    • (Score: 2) by crafoo on Sunday August 26 2018, @01:24AM (2 children)

      by crafoo (6639) on Sunday August 26 2018, @01:24AM (#726413)

      About the same population that used IRC in the 90s are still using IRC. Each successive generation that joins the internet reinvents chat, forums, and sharing in successively worse ways.

      • (Score: 2) by takyon on Sunday August 26 2018, @02:44AM

        by takyon (881) <{takyon} {at} {soylentnews.org}> on Sunday August 26 2018, @02:44AM (#726427) Journal

        Can't wait for hybrid forum-VR Third Lyfe.

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      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Pino P on Sunday August 26 2018, @12:19PM

        by Pino P (4721) on Sunday August 26 2018, @12:19PM (#726522) Journal

        Let me know when standard distributions of IRC server software have solved these through included plug-ins:

        • Built-in logging and log replay for those channels that choose to use logs
        • Bouncer as a standard feature for continuous presence across multiple devices
        • Link summary bot as a standard feature, so that pasting a link doesn't cause 100 clients in the channel to hammer the linked site for a summary
        • Attachment pastebin/filedrop as a standard feature, as not everyone has the ability to forward a port for DCC SEND

        Or should every user of IRC be expected to lease his or her own VPS on which to run a logging bouncer and an attachment filedrop?

    • (Score: 2) by takyon on Sunday August 26 2018, @02:45AM

      by takyon (881) <{takyon} {at} {soylentnews.org}> on Sunday August 26 2018, @02:45AM (#726428) Journal

      "The Internet was a mistake."

      - Vint Cerf

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  • (Score: 3, Informative) by coolgopher on Sunday August 26 2018, @04:26AM

    by coolgopher (1157) on Sunday August 26 2018, @04:26AM (#726443)

    Back when the Internet hadn't yet degraded to the cesspit of today. When you could join a conversation on just about any network and have an interesting discussion.

    Eh, who am I kidding, we had the same lusers to deal with back then as we do now. Only the trolls weren't state-backed at the time.

    The ircd was my first introduction to "real" network programming. And the simplicity and elegance of the code really surprised me. I'd expected something far larger and more complicated.

  • (Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 26 2018, @09:31AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 26 2018, @09:31AM (#726489)

    мС ВРН, ЙЮЙ РЮЛ Я ЙНДХПНБЙЮЛХ?

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 26 2018, @03:43PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 26 2018, @03:43PM (#726575)

    also, you can loggin to some #yourchannel with "computerA".
    sit in a plane, travel the world, login to #yourchannel@IRC, do a "whois computerA" with computer B and then do all kindda of TCP/UDP to "computerA".

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