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posted by martyb on Friday September 14 2018, @01:40AM   Printer-friendly
from the positing-parody-posts-perplexify-perusers dept.

After Russia was accused of using memes and viral images to influence elections, Facebook will now fact-check pictures and videos

Facebook will start fact-checking images and videos, the company said Thursday, expanding its review efforts to posts that are traditionally harder to monitor.

"People share millions of photos and videos on Facebook every day. We know that this kind of sharing is particularly compelling because it's visual. That said, it also creates an easy opportunity for manipulation by bad actors," Facebook said in a blog post.

Edited photos and strong visuals were common among the posts by Russian agents attempting to interfere with the 2016 U.S. presidential election and other global elections, according to examples released by members of Congress.

Meme Review! Meme Police!

Also at Engadget, The Washington Post, and MarketWatch.


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  • (Score: 3, Informative) by Snotnose on Friday September 14 2018, @01:45AM (3 children)

    by Snotnose (1623) on Friday September 14 2018, @01:45AM (#734636)

    But given the apparent IQ of the typical FB user there is no educating them.

    --
    When the dust settled America realized it was saved by a porn star.
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 14 2018, @02:39AM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 14 2018, @02:39AM (#734664)

      "But given the apparent IQ of the typical FB user there is no educating them."

      /

      Nonsense !

      Even chimpanzees can be trained.

      Ok, I am forced to admit that the chimps are almost certainly smarter than Facebook users.

      So maybe you're correct.

      • (Score: 5, Funny) by Arik on Friday September 14 2018, @02:44AM (1 child)

        by Arik (4543) on Friday September 14 2018, @02:44AM (#734665) Journal
        As far as I'm aware, not a single chimp to date has proven stupid enough to sign up for facebook.
        --
        If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
        • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 14 2018, @03:05PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 14 2018, @03:05PM (#734856)

          Look, just take over your mother's computer for a few minutes and sign up for her

  • (Score: 3, Funny) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Friday September 14 2018, @01:46AM

    by MichaelDavidCrawford (2339) Subscriber Badge <mdcrawford@gmail.com> on Friday September 14 2018, @01:46AM (#734638) Homepage Journal

    FB never opens up a single position anymore. Rather, whenever they decide to pursue some new endeavour, they hire a thousand people.

    I've been trying to convince them to come down on all the pr0n spammers among my FB Friends. They keep saying that the spammers "don't violate Facebook's community guidelines".

    I even wrote snail mail to their headquarters, addressed to "Security, Pornsite Spammers" but my plea fell on deaf ears.

    --
    Yes I Have No Bananas. [gofundme.com]
  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 14 2018, @02:48AM (8 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 14 2018, @02:48AM (#734666)

    Simple algorithm to determine if it is "fake" by their guidelines:

    Does the meme undermine the leftist message being pushed by Soros, SPLC, CNN, and Democrat party officials?

    If so, it is determined to be fake. If not, it is perfectly OK.

    • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 14 2018, @03:03AM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 14 2018, @03:03AM (#734668)

      > Does the meme undermine the leftist message being pushed by Soros, SPLC, CNN, and Democrat party officials?

      CNN and DNC are squarely on the right of the spectrum, not even close to center.
      SPLC is far right, being an islamist tool.

      So go away with your false 'left' accusations, you ghost of Reagan.

      • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 14 2018, @03:12AM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 14 2018, @03:12AM (#734674)

        "SPLC is far right, being an islamist tool."

        -

        You have NO idea what you're talking about.

        SLPC is the work of Jewish people, not Islamists.

        I'd like to see you try to make me "go away" in person.

        What is it with idiots like you who want to silence people when you disagree with them ?
        This is not how intelligent people disagree, it's how weak stupid people deal with disagreements.

        I'd love to meet you and see you try to silence me. We would have ourselves a rodeo, and I'd ride
        you like the little bitch you are.

    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 14 2018, @03:07AM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 14 2018, @03:07AM (#734671)

      Yeah, no shit. Excellent comment you wrote there.

      It's pretty disturbing how few people seem to realize that F4c3b00k is being used as a propaganda tool.

      /
      /

      I use F4c3b00k as a litmus test, myself.

      If you use it my company won't hire you. We'll use some other excuse when we tell you we can't hire you,
      but off the record that could well be the real reason. None of this is documented in any form that could be
      used as evidence in a lawsuit, so don't waste your time telling me my company will be sued, because we are
      not going to allow that to happen.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 14 2018, @04:43AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 14 2018, @04:43AM (#734708)

        The only problem is you might need to hire a gardener to clean up the tumbleweeds blowing through your interview room.

      • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 14 2018, @11:20AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 14 2018, @11:20AM (#734779)

        I'm so smart your company won't be able to tell that I use Facebook.

    • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 14 2018, @03:10PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 14 2018, @03:10PM (#734857)

      Today WSWS gives us a perfect example of what is really "fake news" to the ruling class. Facebook censors ThinkProgress [wsws.org]:

      The original ThinkProgress article notes, “Kavanaugh believes that the way to determine whether the Constitution protects a particular unenumerated right is to apply the test the Supreme Court laid out in Glucksberg [a 1997 Supreme Court decision holding that the Constitution does not protect a right to physician-assisted suicide]. And the judge also thinks that ‘even a first-year law student could tell you’ that Roe is inconsistent with Glucksberg.” ThinkProgress continued, “It doesn’t take the brains of a fourth-term United States senator from Maine to figure out what this means if Kavanaugh is confirmed. Judge Kavanaugh will be the fifth vote to kill Roe if he joins the nation’s highest Court.”

      The Weekly Standard, replying to this article, simply declares, “Has Brett Kavanaugh ‘stated he’d overturn #Roe?’ No.” The Weekly Standard’s claim hinges on a sophistry: it interprets the word “said” to imply a direct quote, as opposed to the implications of his arguments.

      Any article deemed false by Facebook’s “fact-checkers” has its traffic significantly reduced. Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg recently wrote in the Washington Post, “we demote posts rated as false, which means they lose 80 percent of future traffic.”

      Facebook’s decision to partner with an outlet that promotes such reactionary talking points reveals the right-wing character of the drive to censor the internet.

      Roe v. Wade is going away, because the ruling class, including the Democratic Party establishment, does not think that women should have the right to "my body, my choice." The only reason we're seeing the theatrics in the news is because the Democratic Party knows that the Republican Party can and will simply overrule them, despite evidence that Kavanaugh has committed perjury multiple times.

      Just watch. If the D team somehow gets a majority in both houses of Congress this fall (which is unlikely), suddenly they will forget how to display resistance to reactionary politics. Their current kabuki theater resistance is no threat to their reactionary goals.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 14 2018, @03:15PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 14 2018, @03:15PM (#734861)

        Should have clarified--politics in the USA has entered bizarro territory. What GP identifies as "left" is completely reactionary. The Overton window has gone so far to the right that when an American says "left," they mean right-wing reactionary politics that merely pretends to be progressive now and then by invoking inherently racist and sexist identity politics. The American "left" is indistinguishable from fascism and imperialism.

  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by jmorris on Friday September 14 2018, @03:15AM (12 children)

    by jmorris (4844) on Friday September 14 2018, @03:15AM (#734675)

    We know the Internet was misused to manipulate the 2016 election. Go to Breitbart.com and watch the VIDEO of Google admitting it. Zuck also admits he was "With Her" and using his platform to help, as was Jack. There is your meddling with the election on the Internet.

    Hillary laundered money through Perkins Coie to Fusion GPS to illegally pay Christopher Steele (a FOREIGN NATIONAL) to buy fake material from RUSSIA to both influence the election and illegally "justify" inserting an FBI asset (Carter Page) into the Trump campaign. Their is your RUSSIAN COLLUSION. So who is being investigated? The victim.

    SJWs Always Lie
    SJWs Always Double Down
    SJWs Always Project

    So they got caught inventing lies and using those lies to spy on Trump (and almost certainly ran similar ops against every other Republican candidate they considered worth the bother, i.e. not Catshit) and when caught doubled down and launched a special counsel against the victim. Since they were colluding with Russia (not just with Steele, remember the hundred + million the Russians gave the Clinton Foundation ratf*ck) they projected their own sin on Trump.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 14 2018, @11:15AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 14 2018, @11:15AM (#734776)

      Remind me why SN exists again... Ah, to not be /., that's right...

    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 14 2018, @02:07PM (4 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 14 2018, @02:07PM (#734821)

      So we should dismantle Google, Facebook, and Fox news?

      Gaddds youre such an idiot. Big difference between foreign governments interfering and local corporatoons interfering. Super PACS should all be sued out of existence, and hypocritical morons such as yourself should be imprisoned for life for the common good.

      • (Score: 3, Informative) by Phoenix666 on Friday September 14 2018, @02:55PM (2 children)

        by Phoenix666 (552) on Friday September 14 2018, @02:55PM (#734850) Journal

        Israel is a foreign government. It interferes in every American election, on every level, through its lobby, AIPAC. AIPAC is the third most influential lobby in the USA, after the #1 AARP and #2 NRA. Israel has been doing this for decades, with no outcry. Through it, it has managed to steal American nuclear secrets and build themselves a nuclear arsenal. It has helped itself to billions of our tax dollars in "aid." It has even used it to get away with actual attacks on the American military, and get away clean, with no consequences.

        Where is the special counsel to investigate and unravel that web of foreign influence?

        Something tells me that had I replaced "Israel" with "Russia," you would have been baying for blood, for war to be called down upon them and a massive purge of the American political system. Something else tells me that inserting "Israel" into any such string of facts would have you letting them get away with literal murder. Why is that? Could it be you are laboring under a massive case of hypocrisy?

        Me, I would like for no one, no massive corporation, no foreign government, no nefarious organization, to meddle in our elections at all, on any level, in any respect. I would like elections to be decided by average voters, people who get up and do the hard work of civilization every day. I'm old-fashioned that way.

        --
        Washington DC delenda est.
        • (Score: 2) by Aegis on Friday September 14 2018, @09:11PM (1 child)

          by Aegis (6714) on Friday September 14 2018, @09:11PM (#735063)

          We barely have any campaign finance regulations in this country and Israel manages to comply with them.
          SuperPACS, lobbyists of all stripes are shady as hell but legal.

          Russia doesn't. Trump people, don't. They're breaking those laws.

          It's really as simple as that.

          We need stronger laws in addition to enforcing the ones we have. But, that's just evil job-killing regulation to most the folks on here..

          • (Score: 2) by Arik on Saturday September 15 2018, @05:11AM

            by Arik (4543) on Saturday September 15 2018, @05:11AM (#735211) Journal
            "It's really as simple as that."

            It really isn't, though. There's a tremendous double standard there. The chattering classes are absolutely aghast at just hints of improprieties involving the Russians. If they involve the Israelis, or the "Five Eyes" then nah, it doesn't raise any outrage, the laws simply aren't enforced; even the ones concerning nukes. RT is registered under FARA - AIPAC is not. The inconsistency in application is glaring.
            --
            If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
      • (Score: 1, Redundant) by jmorris on Friday September 14 2018, @05:00PM

        by jmorris (4844) on Friday September 14 2018, @05:00PM (#734903)

        Russian intelligence colluding with the Clinton campaign through the cutout of Christopher Steele. It was right there in what I wrote, somehow that whooshed over your empty head.

        And whatever hypothetical Russian influence via social media may or may not have occurred was a) lost in the noise of the meddling those companies were themselves engaged in, b) by all accounts intended to sow discord and distrust, something the mainstream American media is doing a far better job of.

        And tying both in in neat bow, take another look at Google. Founder? Russian Jew. Now you know why the Old Testament said a foreigner could never be a member of the Tribes of Israel, that not unto the seventh generation would the visitor be.

        And because it is "my thing", lets reject the premise behind your argument. If interferring in foreign elections is such an act of war, why do we do it so much? Twitter deplatformed an entire political party in Brazil recently, decides what politicians can and can't say in campaigns around the world, demanding they all obey the $current_year PC nonsense of the American Empire. Obama openly and notoriously sent his entire campaign team to Israel to work with an opposition candidate in an attempt to overthrow the government in favor of a more pro communist one. I could of course continue citing examples until this became a wall of text post. But the point is made.

    • (Score: 4, Informative) by DeathMonkey on Friday September 14 2018, @05:52PM (5 children)

      by DeathMonkey (1380) on Friday September 14 2018, @05:52PM (#734933) Journal

      SJWs Always Lie
      SJWs Always Double Down
      SJWs Always Project

      No, jmo, that's you who does all those thing. You just tell yourself this so you don't feel bad about it.

      There's the projection.

      Hillary laundered money through Perkins Coie to Fusion GPS to illegally pay Christopher Steele
      There's the lie.

      So they got caught inventing lies and using those lies to spy on Trump
      There's the doubling-down.

      • (Score: 2, Redundant) by jmorris on Friday September 14 2018, @06:31PM (4 children)

        by jmorris (4844) on Friday September 14 2018, @06:31PM (#734950)

        Where is the lie? These are the basic facts that aren't being disputed by any faction in this fight. The Steele "dossier" was "written" by Steele (a "retired" British intelligence agent, and thus another foreign power meddling in our elections) based on information he obtained from a Russian intelligence source. He was paid to do this by Fusion GPS, working on a contract with Perkins Coie, a law firm for the Clinton campaign. The intent was to use atty client privilege laws to shield what they were doing. Those laws don't do that, attempting it is illegal but Clintons are immune to punishment no matter how many laws they break and it only needed to hold until she was elected, until she could crush anyone who noticed. Steele was ALSO being paid by the FBI for some of this same work. It was of such poor quality the FBI refused to use it without corroboration. So Steele leaked it to friendly media, they published reports based on it, without saying where they got the info, then the info had "multiple sources" but the FBI still knew what was really going on, having aided the process. John McCain was also up to his evil eyeballs in it, trying to get the FBI to open a FISA warrant on Trump. Nellie Ohr at Fusion also kept pushing the fake evidence onto the FBI through her marriage to Bruce Ohr, a perfectly tangled and incestuous ratfuck in the swamp. But the capstone is the recent disclosure of the utterly unimportant trivia that Lisa Page once interned for... wait for it...


        Hillary Clinton
        • (Score: 3, Informative) by DeathMonkey on Friday September 14 2018, @06:36PM (3 children)

          by DeathMonkey (1380) on Friday September 14 2018, @06:36PM (#734954) Journal

          Where is the lie?

          Funding your own campaign research and reporting that campaign funding appropriately is not illegal, liar.

          • (Score: 2, Redundant) by jmorris on Friday September 14 2018, @07:06PM (2 children)

            by jmorris (4844) on Friday September 14 2018, @07:06PM (#734975)

            Learn to use a search engine. The Clinton campaign wrote off the expense as "legal fees" to hide it. Perkins Coie laundering that money over to Fusion for "oppo research" is NOT a permissible legal services expense. It was money laundering, pure and simple. She needed a cutout because she knew what Fusion was going to do was highly illegal, i.e. colluding with Russian intelligence through yet another cutout by the name of Christopher Steele. Again, none of this is disputed at this point, all of the RUSSIA! RUSSIA! RUSSIA! investigating, persecuting and carrying on assumes all of what I wrote is true but somehow a sin of the Trump campaign. The somehow is never clearly stated because it is of course madness.

            More howling madness is how a Special Prosecutor appointed to conduct a counter intelligence investigation is involved with a porn star and a dozen other side issues having no discernible link to a counter intelligence investigation, but perhaps that will become clear in 2025 when his final report is released. Perhaps. We know it is all just a joke, the media breathlessly reporting every unimportant detail, Mad Maxine shouting "Impeach 45!", all of them. It is just a joke at this point. Trump allows them to keep the joke going, goads them to keep going in fact, because he bets the public realizes it is a joke and it will hurt his enemies and he seems to thrive on chaos. Plus Trump knows that if Mueller did hand in a final report, saying nothing of course because the only crimes committed were by Hillary and he is With Her, the Democrats will simply lay this one aside and grab the next "big scandal" that bubbles up from the Think Progress fever swamp and have another go. Trump is basically now using Mueller to conduct a denial of service attack on the Democratic Media Scandal Machine by soaking up all available media bandwidth.

            And you are a partisan moron who might allow the reality of the situation into your head in a decade or two when it is all safely out of current events.

            • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Aegis on Friday September 14 2018, @09:31PM (1 child)

              by Aegis (6714) on Friday September 14 2018, @09:31PM (#735078)

              "oppo research" is NOT a permissible legal services expense.

              A statement for which the only reference is in the opinion section of Fox News.

              The FEC is aware of this allegation but isn't taking any action. [fec.gov]
              And that's Trump's FEC, if there was something there I'm pretty sure they'd be on it...

              • (Score: 3, Touché) by jmorris on Saturday September 15 2018, @01:16AM

                by jmorris (4844) on Saturday September 15 2018, @01:16AM (#735176)

                Are you really unable to think and reason for yourself? Do you need everything spoonfed from an approved source? Can you read?

                Campaign finance laws are not a new thing. You can't file your reports saying you spent the money on thing A and really A tunneled the money into B. Oppo research is a thing, and normally (if one isn't colluding with both British and Russian Intelligence agencies) quite legal. But you have to actually account the money as spent on that. Legal fees are also quite normal and legal. What is neither normal or legal is funneling money declared as one into the other and then declaring atty client priv to avoid having to reveal any of it. If that were actually legal every campaign would show one line item on their disclosure forms, legal fees. Try thinking, you might grow to enjoy it. After a few years of swallowing some really bitter red pills of course, waking up and beginning your journey to the Right.

  • (Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 14 2018, @06:02AM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 14 2018, @06:02AM (#734718)

    Brandon Straka, founder of the #WalkAway movement has been banned from Facebook for posting an Infowars link. (an interview of himself) His WalkAway group on Facebook has nearly 200k members of former Liberals. He was organizing the WalkAway march in DC, and this effort has been greatly impacted.

    https://imgur.com/1hxOUTZ [imgur.com]

    • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 14 2018, @11:18AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 14 2018, @11:18AM (#734778)

      Meh... sugar free Milo.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 14 2018, @03:02PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 14 2018, @03:02PM (#734855)

        So, cocoa milk powder. Yummmmmmmyyyyy

    • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Friday September 14 2018, @05:03PM

      by Phoenix666 (552) on Friday September 14 2018, @05:03PM (#734904) Journal

      That sucks.

      The more Facebook (and its social media fellows) plays this censorship game, the more it's going to lose. There will be a backlash. So then they'll ban a progressive person or group to prove they're not biased, and then the progressives will cry, "Whose side are you on, anyway?" It will escalate from there, and if/when the feds come to play, it will be all over.

      --
      Washington DC delenda est.
  • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 14 2018, @07:36AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 14 2018, @07:36AM (#734729)

    So I post a picture of Adolf Hitler (Godwin's law met) and label it Churchill, now what happens next?

    I don't use facebook and neither should anybody who cares about the privacy and free will of people.

    • (Score: 2) by jmorris on Friday September 14 2018, @06:37PM

      by jmorris (4844) on Friday September 14 2018, @06:37PM (#734956)

      Too late for that one, $current_year has moved on already. You can stand up and read certain writings of Churchill and be arrested for it. In London.

  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Bot on Friday September 14 2018, @08:10AM (1 child)

    by Bot (3902) on Friday September 14 2018, @08:10AM (#734736) Journal

    Most memes in my feed are lame and pro left (because friends). From the right I see mostly infographics. During the so called family day the left posted a photo with very few people and the right posted a photo of the very same place with much more people. Either one posted way before the rally started, or the other posted an archived photo of something else.
    I don't expect this to change.

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    Account abandoned.
  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 14 2018, @02:45PM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 14 2018, @02:45PM (#734845)

    if this is actually a picture of MY balls or not?
    Seriously?

    • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Friday September 14 2018, @05:10PM

      by Phoenix666 (552) on Friday September 14 2018, @05:10PM (#734910) Journal

      They can't.

      As a joke my wife and I "sext" each other when one of us is travelling on business. It's never anything naughty. She sends me a picture of her big toe, and I send her the crook of my elbow; she sends me her knee, and I send the heel of my right foot; and so on. Even when it's the two of us humans we can't always make out what it is, except that it's skin colored. An algorithm is not going to better that--it will flag it every time.

      --
      Washington DC delenda est.
    • (Score: 2) by Aegis on Friday September 14 2018, @09:45PM

      by Aegis (6714) on Friday September 14 2018, @09:45PM (#735087)

      Only the middle one.

    • (Score: 2) by Fluffeh on Monday September 17 2018, @03:28AM

      by Fluffeh (954) Subscriber Badge on Monday September 17 2018, @03:28AM (#735842) Journal

      The color of the fake tan gives it away. That, and the surprisingly small hands that area clearly in the same photographic scale.
      Seriously.

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