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posted by martyb on Monday September 17 2018, @05:04PM   Printer-friendly
from the out-of-this-world! dept.

Kerbal Space Program (KSP) is a remarkably rich, open-ended physics-based space program simulator. The types of spacecraft and missions you can design and simulate, particularly with a very active modding community is practically endless. Do you want to fly the Enterprise? Which one? Perhaps see if you can survive out of Andy Weir's The Martian?

PCGamer has an article on a person who has logged more than 4000 hours on KSP. The user, known as ShadowZone in the Steam community, spends many hours designing and implementing complex spacecraft as well as calculating flight plans. It is an interesting read for anyone who has given this game a try, and if you're not careful you may learn something before it's done.

When I first spied the 39-year-old father of two discussing his playtime on Twitter, I wanted him to answer one simple question: What do you even do in Kerbal Space Program for that length of time? Well if you're Daniel, you spend it building staggeringly complex machines to then launch on missions so daring it'd make Arthur C. Clarke sweat—all while rediscovering that childish sense of wonder that makes space so captivating to begin with.


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  • (Score: 0, Disagree) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 17 2018, @05:13PM (21 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 17 2018, @05:13PM (#736067)

    I suggest that you instead spend 4000 hours building something in this world.

    • (Score: 3, Funny) by takyon on Monday September 17 2018, @05:49PM

      by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Monday September 17 2018, @05:49PM (#736081) Journal

      What do you mean? Won't the Air Force let me go through the Stargate if I play Kerbal all day, every day?

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    • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Pslytely Psycho on Monday September 17 2018, @05:50PM (12 children)

      by Pslytely Psycho (1218) on Monday September 17 2018, @05:50PM (#736082)

      Written by a bitter person who's idea of fun is work.
      Just fuck the hell off. I would say someone who works all of their life away has lost far more than this person.
      I enjoy my life, and I'm sure the subject of this article enjoys his.
      I seriously doubt you enjoy yours.
       

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      Alex Jones lawyer inspires new TV series: CSI Moron Division.
      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 17 2018, @05:59PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 17 2018, @05:59PM (#736091)

        My job used to be to play ksp. Except all I had was C. It paid well.

      • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 17 2018, @06:10PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 17 2018, @06:10PM (#736097)

        Different AC here. Who said anything about a job, besides you? Also some people enjoy their work.

        And fuck you, hostile wanker!

      • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 17 2018, @09:40PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 17 2018, @09:40PM (#736214)

        Or, maybe I should call them Soyboys.

        • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 17 2018, @10:24PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 17 2018, @10:24PM (#736253)

          Get that suit and tie back on and get your ass back in the office where you belong. Fucking workaholic square.

      • (Score: 2, Insightful) by realDonaldTrump on Monday September 17 2018, @11:30PM (7 children)

        by realDonaldTrump (6614) on Monday September 17 2018, @11:30PM (#736279) Homepage Journal

        The greatest builder is me, and I'm building the greatest wall you have ever seen in your entire life. I don't do it for the money. I've got enough, much more than I'll ever need. I do it to do it. Building is my art form.

        "Choose a job you love, and you will never have to work a day in your life." -- Confusious

        • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday September 18 2018, @06:03PM (6 children)

          by DeathMonkey (1380) on Tuesday September 18 2018, @06:03PM (#736625) Journal

          If you love doing anything for eight hours straight then you're probably not a very bright person.

          • (Score: 2) by realDonaldTrump on Tuesday September 18 2018, @08:39PM (5 children)

            by realDonaldTrump (6614) on Tuesday September 18 2018, @08:39PM (#736717) Homepage Journal

            But here you learn the rewards of hard work and perseverance, never, ever give up. Never quit. Persevere. Never, ever quit. You learn the satisfaction of building a molecule, flying around the Moon or earning a cyber badge after mastering a certain skill. There’s no better feeling than an achievement that you’ve earned with your own sweat, tears, resolve, hard work. There’s nothing like it. Do you agree with that?

            In life, in order to be successful -- and you people are well on the road to success -- you have to find out what makes you excited, what makes you want to get up each morning and go to work. You have to find it. If you love what you do and dedicate yourself to your work, then you will gain MOMENTUM. And look, you have to. You need the word “momentum.” You will gain that momentum. And each success will create another success. The word “momentum.”

            And remember this, you’re not working. Because when you’re doing something that you love, like I do -- of course I love my business, but this is a little bit different. Who thought this was going to happen? McKay from Buzzfeed, of Buzzfeed, kept saying, "oh, Donald J. Trump is a Fake Candidate, he'll never run!" He went on MSNBC, he bet one year of salary that I would never make it to the Iowa ballot. He got it all wrong, but I won't hold it against him. Nor does he have to pay the one year salary to me that he guaranteed if I ran -- I let him off the hook. And remember not only did I run in the primaries, I won. And in the general, I won again -- overwhelmingly. In spite of MASSIVE Voter Fraud. I was inaugurated -- beautiful Inauguration, biggest crowd ever. And in less than two years we've eliminated more regulations than any administration has ever eliminated. Meaning, in 4 years, 8 years or in one instance 16 years. We’re, you know, having a good time. We’re doing a good job.

            Doing a good job. But when you do something that you love, remember this, it’s not work. So you’ll work 24-7. You’re going to work all the time. And at the end of the year you’re not really working. You don’t think of it as work. When you’re not doing something that you like or when you’re forced into do something that you really don’t like, that’s called work, and it’s hard work, and tedious work.

            So as much as you can, do something that you love. Work hard and never ever give up, and you’re going to be tremendously successful. Tremendously successful!!!

            • (Score: 2) by realDonaldTrump on Tuesday September 18 2018, @09:46PM

              by realDonaldTrump (6614) on Tuesday September 18 2018, @09:46PM (#736753) Homepage Journal

              (cont) BuzzFeed, they were the ones that said under no circumstances will I run for President, and were they wrong!!!!

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 05 2018, @02:06AM (3 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 05 2018, @02:06AM (#744458)
              " I was inaugurated -- beautiful Inauguration, biggest crowd ever."

              [Citation Needed.]

              • (Score: 2) by realDonaldTrump on Friday October 05 2018, @02:20AM (2 children)

                by realDonaldTrump (6614) on Friday October 05 2018, @02:20AM (#744463) Homepage Journal

                "This was the LARGEST audience to EVER witness an inauguration -- PERIOD -- both in person and around the globe." Sean Spicer. whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/statement-press-secretary-sean-spicer [whitehouse.gov]

                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 08 2018, @02:38AM (1 child)

                  by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 08 2018, @02:38AM (#745777)

                  Wikipedia has this to say about Sean Spicer [wikipedia.org]:

                  During his tenure as White House press secretary, Spicer made a number of public statements that were controversial and false,[5][6][7] and he developed a contentious relationship with the White House press corps.[8][9][10] The first such instance occurred on January 21, 2017, the day following Trump's inauguration. Spicer repeated the claim that crowds at Trump's inauguration ceremony were the largest ever at such an event and that the press had deliberately under-estimated the number of spectators.[11][12][13] After this statement was widely criticized, Trump aide Kellyanne Conway said that Spicer had presented what she called "alternative facts" regarding the inauguration's attendance numbers.[14]

                  So you are quoting a claim that was soundly criticized and debunked! SAD!
                  Cf: Washington Post [washingtonpost.com] CNN [cnn.com], CBS [cbsnews.com], NYT [nytimes.com], Time [time.com]... and I won't bother to list any more because you've already complained about too many links in a prior comment.

                  • (Score: 2) by realDonaldTrump on Monday October 08 2018, @06:33AM

                    by realDonaldTrump (6614) on Monday October 08 2018, @06:33AM (#745834) Homepage Journal

                    You're quoting the WikiPedia. Who said we have concentration camps. They put us in their list of so-called concentration camps. They're not concentration camps, they're detention centers. As everybody knows. Fortunately we got that one fixed. Although, it took a guy from Slovenia. And hopefully we can fix the one about Sean.

                    And the #AmazonWashingtonPost [twitter.com], @CNN [twitter.com] (the absolute worst), @CBS [twitter.com], the crooked failing @nytimes [twitter.com] & Time Magazine. I'll tell you, these are some of the most dishonest human beings on Earth. They don't care about what's good for America. They only care about RATINGS. Because they're dieing. They do a story about me, it's TREMENDOUS ratings for them. Guaranteed. Big ad money. And they stay in business a little longer. They go, "oh, there's a scandal with the President," folks pay attention. True story or Fake story, doesn't matter, they'll do anything for a buck. And this story, very fake. They took pictures at different times. Obama, when his beople were already there. Me, when my people were still coming. They put them next to each other. And they go, "oh, look at all the White!" Well, Obama didn't have the White. The floor covering. We were the first that had that. So of course it looks different. Much whiter. Obama, you don't see the White. Because he didn't have it!!!

                    By the way, Time Magazine. Always always they used to call it the Man of the Year. Even when it was a woman. Until they gave it to me. And they made it, Person of the Year. They used to call it Man of the Year, but they can't do that anymore. They call it Person. They want to be politically correct. That's OK. That could be why the magazine business isn't so great. Anyway, who cares?

    • (Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 17 2018, @05:50PM (4 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 17 2018, @05:50PM (#736083)

      2:1 I said in my heart, “Come now, I will test you with pleasure; enjoy yourself.” But behold, this also was vanity.[a] 2 I said of laughter, “It is mad,” and of pleasure, “What use is it?” 3 I searched with my heart how to cheer my body with wine—my heart still guiding me with wisdom—and how to lay hold on folly, till I might see what was good for the children of man to do under heaven during the few days of their life. 4 I made great works. I built houses and planted vineyards for myself. 5 I made myself gardens and parks, and planted in them all kinds of fruit trees. 6 I made myself pools from which to water the forest of growing trees. 7 I bought male and female slaves, and had slaves who were born in my house. I had also great possessions of herds and flocks, more than any who had been before me in Jerusalem. 8 I also gathered for myself silver and gold and the treasure of kings and provinces. I got singers, both men and women, and many concubines,[b] the delight of the sons of man.

      9 So I became great and surpassed all who were before me in Jerusalem. Also my wisdom remained with me. 10 And whatever my eyes desired I did not keep from them. I kept my heart from no pleasure, for my heart found pleasure in all my toil, and this was my reward for all my toil. 11 Then I considered all that my hands had done and the toil I had expended in doing it, and behold, all was vanity and a striving after wind, and there was nothing to be gained under the sun.

      • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 17 2018, @06:26PM (3 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 17 2018, @06:26PM (#736108)

        ... and yet his own heart will last but "a few days". That's what makes it folly; when he dies, his works too will die, because there is no institution to keep them going. Even worse, as his own desires or needs shift within his own life, then so does the value of his past achievements—they die in front of him.

        One must instead build for other people, especially for those people who have not yet been born.

        Build up treasure not for this life, but rather for the "next" life, and then you'll feel your works have had meaning.

        • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 17 2018, @07:05PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 17 2018, @07:05PM (#736125)

          build for other people

          They'll die too. But not before cursing you for something or another.

        • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 17 2018, @10:28PM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 17 2018, @10:28PM (#736254)

          I agree with the sentiment you expressed.

          But Ecclesiastes is one of those books that presents the picture that there is no "next life" in the sense of a heaven - there is only Sheol [wikipedia.org]. Righteous, not righteous, good, bad, or ugly. *Everything* is vanity and both sides go to darkness at the end despite the universe having a Creator. So enjoy life while you have it and be a good citizen because it helps you enjoy life is kind of the gist.

          And as the grandparent, I am mightily amused that a passage from a book that countered exactly the sentiment of the great-grandparent is modded as "Troll", which is why I AC'd it in the first place. Whether you buy into the Bible or not, once in awhile it delves into practically applied philosophy. And the outlook of Ecclesiastes is that there is *no* doing something more 'practical' in life... or rather that doing so gets you the same end as playing 4,000 hours of KSP. But it was Pearls before Swine going in, and PSIPSO I suppose.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 17 2018, @11:40PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 17 2018, @11:40PM (#736283)

            The other AC was quite clear, even putting the word "next" in quotes:

            Build up treasure not for this life, but rather for the "next" life, and then you'll feel your works have had meaning.

            The AC is saying exactly what you're saying: The "next" life is not heaven, but rather literally somebody else's life that comes after your own—build treasures for them, not for yourself.

            Goddamnit!

            Like a joke, wisdom just ain't as fun when you have to explain it.

    • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 17 2018, @06:40PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 17 2018, @06:40PM (#736114)

      Uh everything he's building is in this world. Are you from a different world? Or have you spent 4000 hours building something and got off this world?

      Otherwise what you've just posted is as real and worthless as what he builds, if not even more worthless.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 17 2018, @06:43PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 17 2018, @06:43PM (#736115)

        You're in the wrong forum.

  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by ikanreed on Monday September 17 2018, @05:13PM (11 children)

    by ikanreed (3164) Subscriber Badge on Monday September 17 2018, @05:13PM (#736068) Journal

    How to begin to rationalize when you realize how much of your life you've invested in a video game.

    I get it though, immersive simulators poke all the parts of the engineer brain that love solving problems with none of the obnoxious "doing what other people want" or "mindless paperwork" that go with the real job. Just sometimes I think about the time I've invested in something pointless and wonder where I'd be if I were a little more serious about playing violin or teaching my dog new tricks or learning a language, or heaven help me, meeting new people.

    • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 17 2018, @06:14PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 17 2018, @06:14PM (#736098)

      Just sometimes I think about the time I've invested in something pointless ...

      Yup, paperwork nobody will ever ready and endless mandatory meetings suck the life out of life.

      • (Score: 3, Funny) by ikanreed on Monday September 17 2018, @06:17PM (1 child)

        by ikanreed (3164) Subscriber Badge on Monday September 17 2018, @06:17PM (#736100) Journal

        *manager voice*

        Look, those project plans mean accountability, and if no one reads them it's because you were accountable.

        • (Score: 3, Touché) by Freeman on Monday September 17 2018, @07:29PM

          by Freeman (732) on Monday September 17 2018, @07:29PM (#736135) Journal

          Have you filled out those TPS reports. Did you get the TPS reports? Did you get the memo on the TPS reports? Please, make sure to file those TPS reports. Also, I'm going to need you to come in on Saturday too.. Mmkay, thanks.

          --
          Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by suburbanitemediocrity on Monday September 17 2018, @07:08PM (4 children)

      by suburbanitemediocrity (6844) on Monday September 17 2018, @07:08PM (#736126)

      I was pretty serious about guitar, but that was twenty years ago. Now all that happens when I try to play is that I get depressed. It was fun for a while and beat watching tv.

      • (Score: 2) by ikanreed on Monday September 17 2018, @07:18PM (3 children)

        by ikanreed (3164) Subscriber Badge on Monday September 17 2018, @07:18PM (#736130) Journal

        Well yeah, TV in 1998 was the worst garbage known to man. Somehow, as bad as 2010s TV is, 1998 was just a constant hodgepodge of tedious garbage.

        I dare you to find anything worth watching in this shitpile [wikipedia.org]

        • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Freeman on Monday September 17 2018, @07:32PM

          by Freeman (732) on Monday September 17 2018, @07:32PM (#736138) Journal

          That's why I only watched re-runs. Hogans Heroes and MASH are still new, if you haven't seen them, yet.

          --
          Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 17 2018, @07:43PM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 17 2018, @07:43PM (#736143)

          Futurama, King of the Hill, The X-Files, Dilbert, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Whose Line Is It Anyway?, Star Trek: Voyager, Family Guy (early seasons were better), Millennium, Seinfeld, and Home Movies (1999, UPN).

          • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Monday September 17 2018, @08:44PM

            by Freeman (732) on Monday September 17 2018, @08:44PM (#736172) Journal

            I'll give you Whose line is it anyway?, and Star Trek Voyager (We'll ignore the holographic doctor having children bit (S6Ep12 Blink of an Eye), and various other stupid oddities.), maybe Dilbert, but the rest are kind of 'meh. You've seen one Seinfeld episode, you've seen them all. Buffy the Vampire Slayer while not as awful as most 90s shows, was pretty awful, and the younger me definitely didn't watch it for the vampires. Why isn't The Simpsons on your list? During the 90s, I would definitely have called it better than Futurama, King of the Hill, or Family Guy. Not that I ever watched much of any of those shows.

            --
            Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
    • (Score: 5, Insightful) by SunTzuWarmaster on Monday September 17 2018, @07:58PM

      by SunTzuWarmaster (3971) on Monday September 17 2018, @07:58PM (#736152)

      Then you'd be thinking of where you'd be if you hadn't learned that thing instead!
      ...
      I threw an orange from my right hand under my left arm, caught it in my left elbow, and rolled it to my hand at the Walmart yesterday. No biggie. Someone commented "Whoa! That's impressive." I said something like, "all it takes is 100 hours". I've easily spent over 1000 hours learning how to contact juggle. Took me about 3 years to get good. And for what?
      ...
      A few weeks ago, I was training with some Las Vegas acrobats, and a friend snapped this picture: https://imgur.com/TroFwFc [imgur.com] . Easily 100 hours of skills training, if not considering strength training (1000+ hours). Took me about 4 years to get to that level. And for what?
      ...
      I learned to do 10-foot songs (hardest difficulty) on Dance! Dance! Revolution. It took me about 3 years to get good.
      And for what?
      ...
      ...
      Why isn't "because it was fun" a good enough reason?
      ...
      NOTE - I am a computer scientist. None of these skills are useful in the slightest, unless you count "impressing children".

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 17 2018, @08:38PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 17 2018, @08:38PM (#736168)

      Time to purchase that convertible sports car because sounds like you're starting to hit your midlife crisis.

      Letting the days go by, let the water hold me down
      Letting the days go by, water flowing underground
      Into the blue again after the money's gone
      Once in a lifetime, water flowing underground.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 18 2018, @12:23AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 18 2018, @12:23AM (#736306)

        Dogs, from the album Animals. One of the greatest albums of all time.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiaF4kuxJco [youtube.com]

        You gotta be crazy, you gotta have a real need.
        You gotta sleep on your toes, and when you're on the street,
        You gotta be able to pick out the easy meat with your eyes closed.
        And then moving in silently, down wind and out of sight,
        You gotta strike when the moment is right without thinking.

        And after a while, you can work on points for style.
        Like the club tie, and the firm handshake,
        A certain look in the eye and an easy smile.
        You have to be trusted by the people that you lie to,
        So that when they turn their backs on you,
        You'll get the chance to put the knife in.

        You gotta keep one eye looking over your shoulder.
        You know it's going to get harder, and harder, and harder as you
        get older.
        And in the end you'll pack up and fly down south,
        Hide your head in the sand,
        Just another sad old man,
        All alone and dying of cancer.

        And when you loose control, you'll reap the harvest you have sown.
        And as the fear grows, the bad blood slows and turns to stone.
        And it's too late to lose the weight you used to need to throw
        around.
        So have a good drown, as you go down, all alone,
        Dragged down by the stone.
        I gotta admit that I'm a little bit confused.
        Sometimes it seems to me as if I'm just being used.
        Gotta stay awake, gotta try and shake off this creeping malaise.
        If I don't stand my own ground, how can I find my way out of this
        maze?

        Deaf, dumb, and blind, you just keep on pretending
        That everyone's expendable and no-one has a real friend.
        And it seems to you the thing to do would be to isolate the winner
        And everything's done under the sun,
        And you believe at heart, everyone's a killer.

        Who was born in a house full of pain.
        Who was trained not to spit in the fan.
        Who was told what to do by the man.
        Who was broken by trained personnel.
        Who was fitted with collar and chain.
        Who was given a pat on the back.
        Who was breaking away from the pack.
        Who was only a stranger at home.
        Who was ground down in the end.
        Who was found dead on the phone.
        Who was dragged down by the stone.

  • (Score: 5, Informative) by zocalo on Monday September 17 2018, @05:36PM

    by zocalo (302) on Monday September 17 2018, @05:36PM (#736076)
    The link in TFA just goes to the homepage, should probably go to this page [pcgamer.com].
    --
    UNIX? They're not even circumcised! Savages!
  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 17 2018, @07:45PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 17 2018, @07:45PM (#736145)

    KSP has taught me a lot about orbital mechanics, and planning.
    It's a fun and addictive game. it's just a shame about the unstable physics where ships rip themselves to bits for no good reason.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 17 2018, @10:00PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 17 2018, @10:00PM (#736229)

      MOAR STRUTS!

      • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 18 2018, @12:46AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 18 2018, @12:46AM (#736312)

        That's the thing, it it was the case of not enough struts, then that'd be a good reason, I keep having problems where switching away then back to a ship causes explosions. or parts getting messed up positionaly after docking.

  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Freeman on Monday September 17 2018, @08:08PM (7 children)

    by Freeman (732) on Monday September 17 2018, @08:08PM (#736154) Journal

    Dungeon Defenders (2,300 hours), 7 Days to Die (2,115 hours), Terraria (1,642 hours), Space Engineers (522 hours), Mount and Blade: Warband (372 hours). I've played these off and on over the past few years. They are all very good games. RPGs are fun, but typically feature a defined story, which is good, but you inevitably end up having finished the game in short order. A lot of times the game play in the RPG isn't what's driving the sales, it's the story. I like a good story, but I don't like re-reading the same story every day.

    Then there's the countless hours I played X-COM: UFO Defense (Still Play), Master of Magic (Still Play), Civilizations (II and IV), Zoo Tycoon, Rollercoaster Tycoon (1 & 2)(Just recently found a mod/engine rebuild that adds online multiplayer. Want to play with my brother.), Fallout (1-2, Tactics, 3(All achievements multiple systems), New Vegas (All achievements multiple systems)), Diablo (1 &2), Baldur's Gate (II, Icewind Dale, and Random PS3 game), Ultima Online (Shard not the official servers)(Will Never Again Devote Life to an MMO.), etc. (Most of those, before I got out of College.)

    I don't drink, smoke, do drugs, go to parties, or do some things that people call "fun". I do however play games. I also played many a night of card games and board games with the family growing up. Kind of hard to do that with work schedules and some family not being in the area.

    Where could he get? Well, pretty safe bet he's having fun. Not much to "get to".

    Then there's this guy you wants to walk to the farthest end of Minecraft. (Now that seems crazy, but who am I to judge.)
    http://farlandsorbust.com/ [farlandsorbust.com]
    https://www.newyorker.com/tech/elements/a-journey-to-the-end-of-the-world-of-minecraft [newyorker.com]

    --
    Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by stretch611 on Tuesday September 18 2018, @01:48AM

      by stretch611 (6199) on Tuesday September 18 2018, @01:48AM (#736329)

      Wow, I thought I was bad... Obviously I am not the only heavy gamer.

      RimWorld - 1398 hours
      Factorio - 1234.5 hours (I thought it was an interesting number, and I will probably not play again until 0.17 is released)
      Prison Architect - 953 hours
      Civ V - 753 hours (I am less than impressed with Civ VI with only 39 hours)
      Oxygen Not Included - 519 hours (will be more by this time tomorrow.)
      Transport Fever - 471 hours.

      I too spent too much time on an MMO, Neverwinter (and the only title I used through WINE in the past 10 years.) After leaving that just less than two years ago, I would also be reluctant to deal with a MMO again. I played without steam, but I am sure that I spent more time there than the top 2 or 3 combined. (I had a minimum of one max level toon with high level gear for each class... 2 wizards, 3 warlocks, and 2 paladins...)

      I also played Diablo 1/2, earlier Civilizations, Master of Magic (always a fav), Warcraft 1/2/3, and StarCraft. Never played Ultima online (or shroud of the avatar either), but I did finish Ultimas 1-5, got bored with 6. (ultima 3 was one of my first early addictions in High School; followed by Ultima IV when it was released.) I also have the enhanced (remake) editions of Icewind Dale and Nevewinter Nights. (I did have the originals as well as Baldurs Gate and Torment when they were originally released.)

      I spent a lot of time in Roller Coaster Tycoon 1 & 2 (when they were new) and I have recently played them with OpenRCT2 engine [openrct2.org]. It allows you to play the original games on modern hardware and modern OS's including linux.

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      Now with 5 covid vaccine shots/boosters altering my DNA :P
    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by deimios on Tuesday September 18 2018, @03:12AM (1 child)

      by deimios (201) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday September 18 2018, @03:12AM (#736362) Journal

      Master of Magic? A fellow man of culture I see. A good day to you Sir!

    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by riT-k0MA on Tuesday September 18 2018, @06:03AM (1 child)

      by riT-k0MA (88) on Tuesday September 18 2018, @06:03AM (#736402)

      If you've enjoyed XCOM, I think you'd be interested in Xenonauts 2 [goldhawkinteractive.com]. It's still in development, but the developer's presenting his designs to the forum and listening. He's already changed two major features of the game based on forum feedback.

      • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Tuesday September 18 2018, @03:51PM

        by Freeman (732) on Tuesday September 18 2018, @03:51PM (#736561) Journal

        I was under the impression that work had ceased on it. Glad to know it's not abandoned. Though, I think I prefer UFO Extraterrestrials vs Xenonauts. I've also played the new X-COM games including the adventure style one (Think it's called X-COM: The Bureau). They are all rather good. The adventure style one is a little cumbersome with the controls and team management, but was fun. I got distracted from it and haven't gotten back in as I'd have to relearn all the controls. I beat the new X-COM, but don't think I've finished the new X-COM 2, yet.

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        Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
    • (Score: 2) by Hyper on Tuesday September 18 2018, @02:24PM (1 child)

      by Hyper (1525) on Tuesday September 18 2018, @02:24PM (#736525) Journal

      I had spent over 9000 hours mudding. Very addictive hobby.

      • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Tuesday September 18 2018, @03:54PM

        by Freeman (732) on Tuesday September 18 2018, @03:54PM (#736563) Journal

        Yeah, we also won't talk about the countless hours I spent on the MUD I played. Got hooked on one in College.

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        Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Knowledge Troll on Monday September 17 2018, @09:07PM (5 children)

    by Knowledge Troll (5948) on Monday September 17 2018, @09:07PM (#736188) Homepage Journal

    I recently figured out way too many nuances and details about MechJeb, the MechJeb scripting interface and KSP and worked around way too many MechJeb bugs in a fantastically frustrating experience trying to get a fully automated mission running from the KSP pad to Minmus, collect science, and return the science to Minmus. But it was worth it!

    It did work - mostly - except for a bug in MechJeb that prevents ascent guidance from being used twice by the scripting module with out a load of a save game between and I could not automate that. I was able to have the ship take off, get to orbit, do a plane change, do a homan transfer, adjust the periapsis at the target object, move into orbit, then land at a pre-designated area and collect the science.

    I then had to do a quick save and quick load then start the second part of the mission which was to take off from minmus, achieve an orbit, transfer to kerbin then set a periapsis of 30km for reentry, fall from minmus all the way to kerbin and perform a reentry procedure.

    What a blast.

    • (Score: 2) by mhajicek on Tuesday September 18 2018, @02:16AM (4 children)

      by mhajicek (51) on Tuesday September 18 2018, @02:16AM (#736336)

      I installed realism overhaul / real solar system a couple weeks ago. Playing the science mode and just did a manned lunar orbit over the weekend.

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      The spacelike surfaces of time foliations can have a cusp at the surface of discontinuity. - P. Hajicek
      • (Score: 2) by hubie on Tuesday September 18 2018, @02:21PM (2 children)

        by hubie (1068) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday September 18 2018, @02:21PM (#736523) Journal

        I assume that replaces all the planets with the solar system ones (as opposed to adding them in addition)? I'm pretty new to this game and I would want to exhaust the current planets before replacing them, but if it adds them to the existing ones, I would probably do that now.

        • (Score: 3, Informative) by mhajicek on Wednesday September 19 2018, @03:38AM

          by mhajicek (51) on Wednesday September 19 2018, @03:38AM (#736904)

          Yes, it also makes them real sized. DV's are much higher, distances much further, and there are life support requirements.

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          The spacelike surfaces of time foliations can have a cusp at the surface of discontinuity. - P. Hajicek
        • (Score: 2) by mhajicek on Wednesday September 19 2018, @03:39AM

          by mhajicek (51) on Wednesday September 19 2018, @03:39AM (#736905)

          It replaces them, that is, not adding.

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          The spacelike surfaces of time foliations can have a cusp at the surface of discontinuity. - P. Hajicek
      • (Score: 3, Funny) by Knowledge Troll on Tuesday September 18 2018, @03:12PM

        by Knowledge Troll (5948) on Tuesday September 18 2018, @03:12PM (#736544) Homepage Journal

        In the realism mods do you have to write a letter to the kerbal's SO when you accidentally fling them into orbit around Sol?

  • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 18 2018, @09:31PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 18 2018, @09:31PM (#736748)

    I'm a few months shy of 28 years old. I've been alive ~240,000 hours. Assuming 8 hours of sleep per night - ~ 160,000 hours awake. I'll most likely have another 320,000 or so waking hours left if I live to an average age. 4,000 hours spent playing a game is a small amount if it makes you happy.

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