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posted by martyb on Monday September 17 2018, @11:33PM   Printer-friendly
from the Evolve-or-retire-dept dept.

As technology and society change the work we do changes with it. Some people with lots of data about what work people do have picked out five up and coming in demand jobs in Australia for 2018 showing which career paths are likely to be worth aiming for in the next decade. The positions have been described as "Customer success manager", "Data scientist", "Full stack engineer", "Cyber security", and "Experience designer". This will primarily be of interest to IT graduates and anyone already in IT looking to cash in on the changing direction of the industry.


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 17 2018, @11:49PM (7 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 17 2018, @11:49PM (#736287)

    ...proofreaders queue up for the dole.

    • (Score: 0, Flamebait) by Ethanol-fueled on Monday September 17 2018, @11:59PM (4 children)

      by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Monday September 17 2018, @11:59PM (#736290) Homepage

      I will visit and perform my duties to the fullest. But Australia may not like Whites there. They may like Chinks.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 18 2018, @12:46AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 18 2018, @12:46AM (#736311)

        I will visit and perform my duties to the fullest.

        Bogans here will give you more than a fierce competition.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 18 2018, @01:28AM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 18 2018, @01:28AM (#736323)

        Last i heard Australians have quite a few alcoholics, and in the wrong areas quite a few racists. Dont worry you will fit right in!
        They cant access SN right???

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 18 2018, @02:15AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 18 2018, @02:15AM (#736334)

          Strewth mate, of course we can. Soylentnews lets any galah post.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 23 2018, @11:25PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 23 2018, @11:25PM (#738997)

          Avoid Lakemba. The place has a large percentage of racists.

    • (Score: 2) by Appalbarry on Monday September 17 2018, @11:59PM

      by Appalbarry (66) on Monday September 17 2018, @11:59PM (#736291) Journal

      You don't need proofreaders if you use emojis!

    • (Score: 3, Funny) by takyon on Tuesday September 18 2018, @12:00AM

      by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Tuesday September 18 2018, @12:00AM (#736294) Journal

      fixeb

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  • (Score: 2, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 18 2018, @12:02AM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 18 2018, @12:02AM (#736295)

    Not all millennial career paths are IT based. Consider such up-and-coming positions as gender identification engineer, gender-flexible bathroom construction manager and full stack tattoo designer.

    • (Score: 2) by Appalbarry on Tuesday September 18 2018, @12:18AM (1 child)

      by Appalbarry (66) on Tuesday September 18 2018, @12:18AM (#736304) Journal

      I've always wondered why people working for barista wages, living in cities with stratospheric rents, can always afford full sleeve tattoos.

      • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 18 2018, @12:35AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 18 2018, @12:35AM (#736310)

        They tattoo each other in the gender neutral restrooms during their breaks.

    • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday September 18 2018, @05:56PM

      by DeathMonkey (1380) on Tuesday September 18 2018, @05:56PM (#736620) Journal

      A bathroom ban for pearl-clutching christian fundamentalists. I like it!

    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 19 2018, @07:33PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 19 2018, @07:33PM (#737184)

      Blowjobs are real jobs!

  • (Score: 5, Touché) by Appalbarry on Tuesday September 18 2018, @12:03AM (5 children)

    by Appalbarry (66) on Tuesday September 18 2018, @12:03AM (#736296) Journal

    I am entirely certain that any company with employees described as "Customer success manager" is one that has utterly no idea what good customer service entails, how to provide it, and why it actually matters. But then again I live in Canada, where "service" usually means "you're just lucky we'll even bother to take your money."

    Unless "Customer success manager" is just another euphemism for "Call centre drone."

    • (Score: 2) by jelizondo on Tuesday September 18 2018, @12:26AM (2 children)

      by jelizondo (653) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday September 18 2018, @12:26AM (#736307) Journal

      Count your blessing bro.

      Try "customer service" in the U.S. or other countries before complaining too loudly.

      Cheers

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 18 2018, @12:33AM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 18 2018, @12:33AM (#736309)

        I tried serving the customers by ripping new assholes for all the idiots who needed to be told how stupid they are. Then I got fired from my own open source project which I had created.

        - Linus Torvalds

        • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 18 2018, @07:07AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 18 2018, @07:07AM (#736413)
          Those wanting to make code contributions to the Linux kernel cannot be called, by any stretch of the word, its "customers". The term "customers" most properly applies to those who actually use the kernel itself, and they are well served by a maintainer who only accepts the best quality contributions and rejects garbage contributions with extreme prejudice. And no, I think reports of Linus being "fired" are rather premature. When Linus is gone from the scene for whatever reason, maintenance of the kernel might fragment into several variants, perhaps rather like the proliferation of Protestant sects after the Reformation.
    • (Score: 2) by darkfeline on Tuesday September 18 2018, @07:09PM (1 child)

      by darkfeline (1030) on Tuesday September 18 2018, @07:09PM (#736658) Homepage

      I think what Customer success manager is, is someone who makes sure customers (e.g., BigCorp licensing Windows 10 servers or Oracle databases) is satisfied with their product, which not only includes providing good support, but also documentation, presentation, "backrubs" wink wink nudge nudge.

      Not that I don't think the position is stupid, but there is a reason for it to exist, for example to calm down the CEO of a large customer who is angry because his Windows 10 laptop blocks his favorite strip poker game.

      A "good"/ideal company sells their services to the bottom techies that actually know what they're doing, and then the bottom techies try to convince boss, and the superficial sales people make the nonsensical PowerPoint slides and charts to seal the deal. So the Customer success manager is just political lubricant so that the techies can get shit done.

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      • (Score: 2) by darkfeline on Tuesday September 18 2018, @07:13PM

        by darkfeline (1030) on Tuesday September 18 2018, @07:13PM (#736661) Homepage

        Stupid me, I got a little cynical and forgot an important part. Customer success usually also includes helping new customers integrate their systems, i.e., "be successful". So for example AWS customer success would be responsible for helping a new big customer move their systems over to the AWS cloud without breaking anything. It's a legitimate need for big hulking companies doing business.

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  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 18 2018, @12:10AM (10 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 18 2018, @12:10AM (#736300)

    "Full stack engineer" = you must do 3 jobs.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 18 2018, @12:14AM (9 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 18 2018, @12:14AM (#736303)

      You mean Full Stack DevOps must do 3 jobs.

      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by c0lo on Tuesday September 18 2018, @12:57AM (8 children)

        by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday September 18 2018, @12:57AM (#736316) Journal

        You mean Full Stack DevOps must do 3 jobs.

        Nope. That one will need to do at least 5 jobs - 3 for Full Stack Dev, 1 CI admin job and 1 SysAdm job (nightly backup of production servers included).
        If in a serious understaffed situation, add Test Automation as well ('cause you are already writing unit tests, what's such a big deal to take the integration, acceptance and performance tests too. And don't forget the testing reports).
        Ah, almost forgot the "data analyst", we need those consumer trends piecharts.

        All in an Agile with 2 weeks sprints ending with a public release.

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        • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 18 2018, @01:23AM (4 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 18 2018, @01:23AM (#736321)

          No. The production servers are in the cloud; backups are automated snapshots, and there isn't any SysAdm. CI admin is done by H-1Bs. Testing is done by a combination of outsourced teams (because they're cheap), student interns (for free), and domestic charities that employ disabled veterans (charity makes the company look good to investors). The data analyst today is the most junior hire who will be fired tomorrow.

          Seriously do you even work in the tech industry?

          • (Score: 3, Informative) by c0lo on Tuesday September 18 2018, @01:52AM (3 children)

            by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday September 18 2018, @01:52AM (#736331) Journal

            No. The production servers are in the cloud; backups are automated snapshots, and there isn't any SysAdm. CI admin is done by H-1Bs.

            USA-mindcentric much?
            Read TFT(itle) again.

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            • (Score: 0, Disagree) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 18 2018, @02:16AM (2 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 18 2018, @02:16AM (#736335)

              Splitting hairs because you lost the argument?

              AWS has a region in Sydney. There's your cloud.

              If you don't like the term H-1B then substitute your preferred word for foreigner.

              • (Score: 3, Informative) by coolgopher on Tuesday September 18 2018, @02:38AM

                by coolgopher (1157) on Tuesday September 18 2018, @02:38AM (#736345)

                If you don't like the term H-1B then substitute your preferred word for foreigner.

                That would normally be "457" (pronounced fou faiv seven), though that visa class has since been replaced by the 482. The term 457 is still in use though.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 18 2018, @03:12AM

                by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 18 2018, @03:12AM (#736361)

                So full of answers - shitty answers, come of that - that you have no room for questions, much less relevant question.
                You're no more intellectually alive than the tape use for backup in Australian IT.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 18 2018, @02:33PM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 18 2018, @02:33PM (#736527)

          Don't like it?
          1. Stop whining
          2. Quit working for the ATO
          3. Get a job somewhere that treats its employees better

          • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Tuesday September 18 2018, @03:37PM

            by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday September 18 2018, @03:37PM (#736553) Journal

            Don't like it?

            I don't. This is why I got a job somewhere that treats its employees better. Not that hard to find.
            This doesn't make job posting like this [seek.com.au] non-existent:

            ... a seasoned or rising Lead Developer & future tech rock star...

            - An illness called “passion”.
            ...
            - Unbounded energy

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 18 2018, @02:39PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 18 2018, @02:39PM (#736530)

          Dude. No. Too Soon.
          When you go on holiday then find yourself coming down from a permanent rush you know you have problems.

  • (Score: 0, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 18 2018, @12:11AM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 18 2018, @12:11AM (#736301)

    Nice lie you're telling, mate.

    All the IT jobs will be filled by Indians and Maori. Not Whites.

    • (Score: 0, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 18 2018, @12:27AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 18 2018, @12:27AM (#736308)

      ^ Modded -1 for Truth.

      • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 18 2018, @01:01AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 18 2018, @01:01AM (#736317)

        ^ Modded -1 for Truthiness

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 18 2018, @02:36PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 18 2018, @02:36PM (#736528)

      Fricking troll what absolute bullshit
      We don't hire Maori.

    • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 18 2018, @02:57PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 18 2018, @02:57PM (#736535)

      Maoris are from New Zealand. It's Aborigines in Australia you ignorant bigot.

  • (Score: 2) by Some call me Tim on Tuesday September 18 2018, @05:01AM (3 children)

    by Some call me Tim (5819) on Tuesday September 18 2018, @05:01AM (#736386)

    Where is the "Deadly critter wrangler" job title? This is Australia for crying out loud! I am not reaching into a server rack when it contains a spider that is bigger than my fat backside!

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    • (Score: 4, Funny) by coolgopher on Tuesday September 18 2018, @05:35AM (1 child)

      by coolgopher (1157) on Tuesday September 18 2018, @05:35AM (#736395)

      The critters have calmed down since Steve Irwin stopped poking them all the time...

      (too soon?)

      • (Score: 2) by Some call me Tim on Thursday September 27 2018, @04:09AM

        by Some call me Tim (5819) on Thursday September 27 2018, @04:09AM (#740641)

        if it wasn't already +5 I'd funny you. :-)

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 18 2018, @04:20PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 18 2018, @04:20PM (#736583)

      There is a simulator [wikipedia.org] for Australian wildlife wrangling.

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