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posted by martyb on Tuesday September 25 2018, @12:05AM   Printer-friendly
from the competition++ dept.

Zhaoxin Displays x86-Compatible KaiXian KX-6000: 8 Cores, 3 GHz, 16 nm FinFET

Zhaoxin, a joint venture between Via Technologies and the Chinese government, this week for the first time displayed its upcoming x86-compatible CPU, the KaiXian KX-6000. The SoC features eight cores running at 3 GHz and increases performance over its predecessor by at least 50%.

The KaiXian KX-6000 is a successor to the KX-5000 CPU launched earlier this year. Both chips integrate eight-core x86-64 cores with 8 MB of L2 cache, a DirectX 11.1-capable iGPU with an up-to-date display controller, a dual-channel DDR4-3200 memory controller, contemporary I/O interfaces (PCIe, SATA, USB, etc), and so on. The key differences between the KaiXian KX-5000 and the KaiXian KX-6000 are frequencies and manufacturing technology: the former is produced using TSMC's 28 nm fabrication process and runs at up to 2 GHz, whereas the latter is made using TSMC's 16 nm technology and operates at up to 3 GHz. Zhaoxin claims that the Kaixian KX-6000 offers compute performance comparable to that of Intel's 7th Generation Core i5 processor, which is a quad-core non-Hyper-Threaded CPU. Obviously, performance claims like that have to be verified, yet a 50% performance bump over the direct predecessor already seems beefy enough.

Related: Russia Plans to Dump Some American CPUs for Homegrown Technology
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U.S. Export Restrictions Lead to Chinese Homegrown Supercomputing Chips
Linux-Based, MIPS-Powered Russian All-in-One PC Launched
China Dominates TOP500 List, Leads With New 93 Petaflops Supercomputer
Chinese Company Produces Chips Closely Based on AMD's Zen Microarchitecture


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Russia Plans to Dump Some American CPUs for Homegrown Technology 33 comments

Announced shortly after the 1 year anniversary of the first revelations by Eric Snowden that American spy agencies have their fingers in everything, the Russian government will be funding a project to build a custom microprocessor. Codenamed Baikal (after the lake with Earth's largest volume of fresh water), it will be built around an ARM Cortex A57, a 64-bit architecture running at 2GHz. No core count or other details are available. First deliveries are expected in 2015.

The ARM architecture aligns with Vladimir Putin's goal, announced in 2010, to move all government computers onto Linux. It also comes in the wake of another large country's recent barring of some American technology in favor of a homegrown Linux distro.

Russian Homegrown Elbrus-4C CPU Released 28 comments

The Moscow Center for SPARC Technologies has released a quad-core chip built on a 65 nm process:

Despite the company's own name, the chip is actually built on the proprietary "Elbrus" instruction set architecture and not on SPARC. The CPU cores are clocked only at 800 MHz each, and the chip is manufactured on a rather old 65 nm process. The chip has a TDP of 45 W, which isn't too bad considering its target market [of high-performance PCs and servers].

However, the performance may be lacking. Going by the MCST's own benchmarks (shown above and below), the CPU is only compared with older Atom chips that used to target netbooks or (also old) "Pentium-M" notebook processors. Even if the Elbrus-4C wins by a large margin in the floating point score, it does so against obsolete processors. When it is compared against the others for integer performance, the difference is much smaller.

The Register speculates that this chip may be the first effort to wean Russia off of "compromised" Intel and AMD processors.

The Elbrus 4c used in the PCs and servers is said to support two instruction sets: very long instruction word and SPARC. It's also said to be capable of x86 emulation, and to run Linux natively, after one performs binary translation.

The Elbrus ARM-401 PC is a minitower packing a version of Linux also called Elbrus and boasts four USB 2.0 ports, a PCI-express slot, gigabit ethernet and not much more. The CPU is apparently capable of running Doom 3, enabling Russian gamers to go fragging like it's 2004.

The Server Elbrus 4.4 is a four-socket affair and four of the machines fit into a 1U chassis. Gigabit ethernet, SATA and plenty of PCI slots connect it to other kit and the rest of the worlds.

MCST has announced the products are on sale, but don't expect an online configurator at which you can run up a rig and get a live price: the outfit offers just the sales@mcst.ru email address for would-be buyers.

U.S. Export Restrictions Lead to Chinese Homegrown Supercomputing Chips 33 comments

The Platform reports that CPU export restrictions to Chinese supercomputing centers may have backfired. Tianhe-2 has remained the world's top supercomputer for the last five iterations of the TOP500 list using a heterogeneous architecture that mixes Intel's Xeon and Xeon Phi chips. Tianhe-2 will likely be upgraded to Tianhe-2A within the next year (rather than by the end of 2015 as originally planned), nearly doubling its peak performance from 54.9 petaflops to around 100 petaflops, while barely raising peak power usage. However, instead of using a new Intel Xeon Phi chip, a homegrown "China Accelerator" and novel architecture will be used.

A few details about the accelerator are known:

Unlike other [digital signal processor (DSP)] efforts that were aimed at snapping into supercomputing systems, this one is not a 32-bit part, but is capable of supporting 64-bit and further, it can also support both single (as others do) and double-precision. As seen below, the performance for both single and double precision is worth remarking upon (around 2.4 single, 4.8 double teraflops for one card) in a rather tiny power envelope. It will support high bandwidth memory as well as PCIe 3.0. In other words, it gives GPUs and Xeon Phi a run for the money—but the big question has far less to do with hardware capability and more to do with how the team at NUDT will be able to build out the required software stack to support applications that can gobble millions of cores on what is already by far the most core-dense machine on the planet.


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Linux-Based, MIPS-Powered Russian All-in-One PC Launched 27 comments

Liliputing reports

Most modern desktop and notebook computers ship with Intel or AMD processors and Windows or OS X software. A few companies are positioning products with ARM-based chips as desktop computers. But the Tavolga Terminal TB-T22BT(русский [1]) is something different.

This all-in-one desktop PC has a MIPS-based processor and runs Debian 8 Linux software.

The computer is made by Russian company T-Platforms, which also offers an SF-BT1 processor module for those that want to build their own hardware.

Both devices use a Baikal-T1 processor which is a 32-bit dual-core MIPS P5600 processor. Like the computers, the chip was designed in Russia, although it's based on work from Imagination Technologies (the company behind the MIPS architecture).

The all-in-one desktop features a 21.5 inch IPS display, support for up to 8GB of DDR3-1600 memory, and up to 64GB of flash storage. It has four USB 2.0 ports, a PS/2 port, Gigabit Ethernet, and a fanless case for silent operation. There's also support for smart cards.

T-Platforms is positioning the TB-T22BT as a device that can either be used as a standalone computer with support for Linux-based apps such as LibreOffice and Firefox, or as a thin client system that you can use to connect to remote machines using remote desktop software.

[1] The translation dropdown menu did not work. Google translation

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China Dominates TOP500 List, Leads With New 93 Petaflops Supercomputer 22 comments

Chinese supercomputer is the world's fastest — and without using US chips.

China now has a greater share of the world's fastest supercomputers than the US.

We just got through discussing about how Intel's Hardware Rootkit is used for providing remote access services to interested third parties that may want to have some say as to what you use your machine for...

From the article:

The Sunway TaihuLight takes the top spot from previous record-holder Tianhe-2 (also located in China), and more than triples the latter's speed. The new number one is capable of performing some 93 quadrillion calculations per second (otherwise known as petaflops) and is roughly five times more powerful than the speediest US system, which is now ranked third worldwide.

[...] The previous fastest supercomputer, China's Tianhe-2, was built using US-made Intel processors. There were plans to upgrade the Tianhe-2's performance last year, but in April 2015 the US government placed an export ban on all high-performance computing chips to China.

So, while we were backloading our stuff with backdoors, the Chinese are leapfrogging us, and leave the United States government shaking the hand of executives who outsourced our technical jobs. Hope it was a good hand shake.

I am already finding a lot of datasheets for very interesting chips I use for my Arduino stuff... things like very high precision ADC's and DAC's - available in native Chinese. Most of the time an English translation ( Google translator quality ) is available. I am getting used to the idea that the new high tech is apt to require an understanding of Chinese to read it.

This is gonna be interesting to see how this plays out when China develops weaponry surpassing that controlled by the USA.

China's New Supercomputer Uses a 260-Core Chip

HPCWire received a report about Sunway TaihuLight, the world's new #1 supercomputer system on the June 2016 TOP500 list, in advance, and has some details about its architecture. The system uses the native/homegrown SW26010 "manycore" processor instead of Intel's similar Xeon Phi chips. Each SW26010 has 260 cores divided into four groups, with 64 compute cores and a single "management core" in each group. The chip reaches about 3 teraflops of peak floating point performance, and can access 8 GB [CORRECTION: 32 GB] of DDR3 memory. There are 40,960 of these chips, for a total of 10,649,600 cores (10,485,760 compute cores). The system's efficiency is around 6.05 gigaflops per Watt, over three times more efficient than the Tianhe-2 supercomputer. Although the TOP500 and Green500 lists are due to merge, the Green500 list has not been published yet. As for what the system will be used for:

Chinese Company Produces Chips Closely Based on AMD's Zen Microarchitecture 33 comments

China Finds Zen: Begins Production Of x86 Processors Based On AMD's IP

Chinese-designed "Dhyana" x86 processors based on AMD's Zen microarchitecture are beginning to surface from Chinese chip producer Hygon. The processors come as the fruit of AMD's x86 IP licensing agreements with its China-based partners and break the decades-long stranglehold on x86 held by the triumvirate of Intel, AMD and VIA Technologies. Details are also emerging that outline how AMD has managed to stay within the boundaries of the x86 licensing agreements but still allow Chinese-controlled interests to design and sell processors based on the Zen design.

AMD's official statements indicate the company does not sell its final chip designs to its China-based partners. Instead, AMD allows them to design their own processors tailored for the Chinese server market. But the China-produced Hygon "Dhyana" processors are so similar to AMD's EPYC processors that Linux kernel developers have listed vendor IDs and family series numbers as the only difference. In fact, Linux maintainers have simply ported over the EPYC support codes to the Dhyana processor and note that they have successfully run the same patches on AMD's EPYC processors, implying there is little to no differentiation between the chips.

The new chips are surfacing against the backdrop of the trade war between the US and China that could escalate quickly, likely reinforcing China's long-held opinion that a lack of native processor production could be a strategic liability. Today's wars are won with chips, and their strategic importance certainly isn't lost on those in the halls of power. In fact, the Obama administration blocked Intel from selling Xeon processors to China in 2015 over concerns the chips were fueling the country's nuclear programs, and subsequent actions by the US have largely prevented China from achieving the technical know-how and equipment to develop its own chips through acquisitions and mergers.

That makes it even more surprising that AMD has managed to establish a franchise that allows Chinese processor vendors to develop and sell x86 processors in spite of US regulations and the licensing restrictions with Intel, but now more information is coming to light about how AMD pulled off the feat.

Related: Intel Launches New Chips in China as US Bans Sales to Supercomputing Centers
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Zhaoxin x86 CPUs Available to PC Makers in China 32 comments

Zhaoxin's x86-Compatible CPUs for DIY Enthusiasts Now Available

Zhaoxin, a joint venture between Via Technologies and the Chinese government, has been selling processors for various client systems for years, but recently the company rolled out its latest CPUs that some of the local PC makers position as solutions for DIY enthusiasts. At least initially, Zhaoxin's KaiXian KX-6780A will be available only in China.

Zhaoxin's KaiXian KX-6780A is an eight-core x86-64 processor with 8 MB of L2 cache, a dual-channel DDR4-3200 memory controller, modern I/O interfaces (PCIe, SATA, USB, etc.), and integrated DirectX 11.1-capable graphics (possibly S3 based but unknown). The CPU cores are in-house designed LuJiaZui cores, built around a superscalar, multi-issue, out-of-order microarchitecture that supports modern instruction sets extensions like SSE 4.2 as well as AVX along with virtualization and encryption technologies. The processor is made using TSMC's 16 nm process technology.

Zhaoxin formally introduced its KaiXian KX-6000-series CPUs back in 2018, but it looks like higher-end models like the KX-U6780A and the KX-U6880A are entering the consumer market this quarter.

Also at Wccftech.

Previously: Zhaoxin KaiXian KX-6000: A Chinese x86 SoC


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Zhaoxin's "Homegrown" CPUs Power Full Range of x86 PCs for China 34 comments

Zhaoxin's Homegrown CPUs Power Full Range of x86 PCs For China – 16nm Chips With Up To 8 Cores For Chinese Consumer Desktops, Notebooks & AIOs

Zhaoxin is ready to enter the domestic (Chinese) consumer market with its homegrown x86 CPUs, the KaiXian KX-6000 series. The CPUs will be used by Chinese ODM, IP3 Technology, in more than 50 products which include desktop PCs, notebook PCs, all-in-ones, Mini PCs & even industrial machines.

The Zhaoxin x86 CPU powered product portfolio was announced by IP3 Technology (Yingzhong Technologies) at an event hosted by the ODM. As mentioned above, there are a range of PC devices that will make use of Zhaoxin's KX-6000 series processors which are the only chips besides AMD & Intel to make use of an x86 architecture. While several products were showcased, IP3 Technology didn't unveil their respective specifications and prices yet.

[...] As for performance numbers, Zhaoxin x86 CPUs, while offering a 50% boost in performance per watt, don't necessarily have to come close to current Intel and AMD CPUs. Beijing primarily wants replacement of hardware made by international vendors with its homegrown Zhaoxin CPUs in various government organizations.

Previously: Zhaoxin KaiXian KX-6000: A Chinese x86 SoC
Zhaoxin x86 CPUs Available to PC Makers in China
China's Homegrown Zhaoxin KaiXian CPU Used in a Mini-PC


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 25 2018, @12:22AM (10 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 25 2018, @12:22AM (#739462)

    If it doesn't have Intel's Management Engine, I don't want it.

    At least the IME I know how to disable

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 25 2018, @12:32AM (9 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 25 2018, @12:32AM (#739464)

      Better the White Devil you know than the Chinese Dragon you don't, huh?

      • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Tuesday September 25 2018, @12:43AM (8 children)

        by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday September 25 2018, @12:43AM (#739470) Journal

        Branding doesn't change the reality, I guess.
        Few years down the road it may be the reverse or even a third option gaining preference.
        I still hope I'll live enough to see a fully open source CPU, but I don't hold illusions that is a guarantee of any backdoor absence.

        --
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 25 2018, @02:30AM (5 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 25 2018, @02:30AM (#739502)
          You will have to airgap your LAN from the router and use a dedicated box for all Internet activities that are worthless to the attacker (DRM-restricted gaming, news.) Perhaps using Tails for banking. Use a PC on the airgapped LAN for Quicken and similar personal data. It's the only way to be sure.
          • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Tuesday September 25 2018, @02:54AM (3 children)

            by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday September 25 2018, @02:54AM (#739511) Journal

            And that tails will run on a box with... what CPU? And how much trust you can put in your router?

            Not that this problem is new, some guy demonstrated a good while ago you can't blindly trust even your compiler [c2.com] (trying to avoid linking a PDF)

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            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
            • (Score: 2) by bob_super on Tuesday September 25 2018, @04:11PM (2 children)

              by bob_super (1357) on Tuesday September 25 2018, @04:11PM (#739736)

              We make an FPGA-based NAT/Firewall. Not at the kind of prices you guys would like to pay, but I should really look into a cost-reduced version.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 26 2018, @04:57PM (1 child)

                by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 26 2018, @04:57PM (#740311)

                That sounds interesting. How does it work?

                • (Score: 2) by bob_super on Thursday September 27 2018, @04:15PM

                  by bob_super (1357) on Thursday September 27 2018, @04:15PM (#740842)

                  Open every packet at the 10G line rate, check that the headers match exactly what is allowed in, check length and CRCs and a few mandatory fields, potentially replace the headers on the way out the other side. Works mostly at layer 3-4, but it can allow or reject pretty much any packet as long as you program the header in.

                  It's for professionals with stable flows. Having it dynamically adjust to the hundreds of IPs that your browser wants to connect to for every click you make would be a good deal more annoying. But I know for a fact that nothing that isn't explicitly allowed can get through. There is no "zero day in some sub-library" when you write your own HDL to do bitwise comparisons. Someone would have to hack the controlling computer and add their traffic to the list, or maskerade as legit traffic up to layer n+1 and break the system using higher layers, which would still not allow to expand to new connection or ports until they go to add those new connections to the authorized list.

                  A Gig-E version would be simpler and considerably cheaper. The main difficulty is to write the control software to allow the right connections in real-time and close them right after. Professional orchestration used by our mostly-staticly-routed customers is very expensive.

          • (Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Tuesday September 25 2018, @05:25AM

            by MichaelDavidCrawford (2339) Subscriber Badge <mdcrawford@gmail.com> on Tuesday September 25 2018, @05:25AM (#739554) Homepage Journal

            I once worked for a Bahamian hedge fund - The Bahamas because there are no taxes there. They had about twenty employees with me as a remote contractor.

            The - very very wealthy - owner of the hedge fund got his windows box quite severely pwned, so he bought all his employees a second box purely for the Internet, and has his people mount all their work computers in a lockable rack with Ethernet KVMs.

            There is _one_ tax - a usurous 50% import duty under which the native bahamians suffer. I found some joy in this guy having to pay that duty for all those second computers, the KVMs and the rackmount.

            --
            Yes I Have No Bananas. [gofundme.com]
        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 25 2018, @12:39PM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 25 2018, @12:39PM (#739637)

          RISC-V?
          https://riscv.org [riscv.org]

          • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Tuesday September 25 2018, @01:03PM

            by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday September 25 2018, @01:03PM (#739649) Journal

            Fingers crossed.
            But...

            The Free and Open RISC Instruction Set Architecture

            Which doesn't sound quite as "full-fledged CPU". And with the current members [riscv.org], it may never will mean a CPU chip - but many, each on designed/customized and fab-ed based on their needs rather than users' needs

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            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by bob_super on Tuesday September 25 2018, @12:34AM (13 children)

    by bob_super (1357) on Tuesday September 25 2018, @12:34AM (#739466)

    Well, it's nice to know that the Chinese will be able able to flood the market with decent x86 processors (benchmarks would be nice, but one can safely assume 95% of users don't need more than 8 cores at 3GHz). They might not have tried yet, but since we're pushing them into a trade war, it's nice that they are now equipped.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 25 2018, @12:38AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 25 2018, @12:38AM (#739467)

      pushing them into a trade war

      Short term thinking.
      This is how Kim got his nukes and the Chinese are in space on their own.

    • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 25 2018, @12:41AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 25 2018, @12:41AM (#739468)

      Giggling. The giggling of a child could be heard. Yet, if one were to looked for the source of the sound, they would not find a child; they would find a man.

      The giggling man was playfully jumping up and down and pointing at something on the sidewalk. This man would also occasionally shout, "April Fools!" It would not take much to figure out that the man had pulled an April Fools prank. However, what kind of prank was it? Investigating the area where the man was pointing would reveal the answer.

      Torn clothes, blood, and tears. A woman could be seen sobbing quietly. It was no surprise that she was crying; she was covered in cuts and bruises, and had been forcibly violated, after all. And it was all the doing of that naked, bouncy man.

      Yes, this was the true nature of the man's prank, the sheer hilarity of which caused passersby to laugh until they cried. But, while this prank was undoubtedly hilarious, something was off. Indeed, it wasn't April Fools' Day at all.

      No, that wasn't quite right. To the man - Howzerson - every single day was April Fools' Day. The man continued giggling, congratulating himself on yet another comical prank. Then, he saw something interesting: Another woman.

      Howzerson smiled. He had just found a new target for another one of his hilarious pranks...

      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Subsentient on Tuesday September 25 2018, @02:27AM

        by Subsentient (1111) on Tuesday September 25 2018, @02:27AM (#739501) Homepage Journal

        Whoever you are, you need psychiatric help. I kind of enjoy the trolling aspect, but the fact remains, there's something deeply wrong here. You need to see a psych.

        --
        "It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." -Jiddu Krishnamurti
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 25 2018, @01:41AM (9 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 25 2018, @01:41AM (#739485)

      We aren't pushing them into a trade war. We've been in one for decades. It's still a war even if you aren't fighting: we call that "losing" or "surrender".

      In this war, we've lost much of our industry. We've lost industrial capability and we've lost jobs.

      It really sickens me to think that there are people who would just accept this. That includes the Clintons, the Bushes, Obama, Reagan, Carter, Ford, Nixon... and you.

      China still demands control and technology transfer every time an American corporation does business in China. China still has a 25% tariff on cars from the USA, and you're upset that we don't keep ours near zero despite decades without any indication that fairness might be coming. China still hacks into everything explicitly for economic purposes. We're getting screwed and you'd just accept that.

      Oh, BTW, would you like to know about election interference? China is sponsoring entire newspaper sections in Iowa now. That is a foreign country trying desperately to influence our elections to their advantage.

      • (Score: 5, Insightful) by number11 on Tuesday September 25 2018, @02:11AM (7 children)

        by number11 (1170) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday September 25 2018, @02:11AM (#739494)

        We aren't pushing them into a trade war. We've been in one for decades.... In this war, we've lost much of our industry. We've lost industrial capability and we've lost jobs.... It really sickens me to think that there are people who would just accept this.

        But it's not a war with China. It's a war with the plutocrats who control American companies and the banksters, and who would slit their mother's throat for a bigger quarterly bonus. No Chinese held a gun to their heads and said "move your manufacturing over here, or else". It's a war with people like the CEO of Sears, who is also the CEO of a hedge fund that has its claws deep into Sears, and is bleeding the company to death for his personal profit.

        China still has a 25% tariff on cars from the USA,

        And the USA all along has had a 25% tariff on light trucks. Note that Ford is pretty much getting out of the automobile biz to concentrate on trucks (includes SUVs), because their profit margins are higher there. (Remember when Ford said "Ford will never build a small car, because small cars mean small profits"? I do.)

        would you like to know about election interference? China is sponsoring entire newspaper sections in Iowa now. That is a foreign country trying desperately to influence our elections to their advantage.

        This is what countries that want to project power do. You think the USA doesn't influence elections (and coups) elsewhere? The object is, to prevent it from happening. To us, to China, to Russia, to Venezuela, to Iran, to Iraq, wherever. At least, newspapers aren't violent overthrows, or tampering with the votes.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 25 2018, @02:21AM (5 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 25 2018, @02:21AM (#739498)

          It is a war with China. The plutocrats who control American companies are traitors, helping the enemy for pay. Traitors need to be punished, but remember that they wouldn't even be an issue without the enemy.

          That 25% tariff on light trucks works nicely. I think that proves the point, no? We need a 25% tariff on cars too. We could perhaps make exceptions for high-cost countries like Japan and Germany, but only if they make the same exceptions for us.

          I do think the USA influences elections and coups all over the world. This is their problem, not mine, and in some cases I might benefit. I expect every country to try to influence US elections, and that is our problem to deal with.

          • (Score: 3, Funny) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Tuesday September 25 2018, @02:37AM (2 children)

            by MichaelDavidCrawford (2339) Subscriber Badge <mdcrawford@gmail.com> on Tuesday September 25 2018, @02:37AM (#739506) Homepage Journal

            In the US it is unlawful for a political candidate to accept foreign campaign donations.

            But Daniel Ortega got voted out of office in Nicaragua due in large part to the US government backing an entire dump truck full of money up to Ortega's opponent's driveway.

            That's just wrong, and should be crime IMHO.

            --
            Yes I Have No Bananas. [gofundme.com]
            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 25 2018, @07:17AM (1 child)

              by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 25 2018, @07:17AM (#739582)

              It should be crime in Nicaragua. The USA can get away with it though, and if this (including image effects) is an overall benefit to the USA, then the USA should do it.

              It goes the other way too. Nicaragua influencing US elections should be a crime in the USA. Nicaragua should do it anyway, if they can get away with it.

          • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 25 2018, @07:29AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 25 2018, @07:29AM (#739583)
            Not actually. It's more like the USA just loves being at war. Whether it's the Russians, the Chinese or whoever it doesn't really matter aka "We've always been at war with Eurasia/Eastasia".

            As long as there's a war those in power are happy. Plenty of patriotic suckers will support them against "The Enemy" and attack those who "aren't patriotic enough" or are "Traitors!". Many of those patriotic suckers can even believe that killing brown or yellow people thousands of miles away is to do with "Protecting Freedoms".

            Your elections are already being influenced by those in power. That's why out of 300 million people you "only" have crappy options like Trump and Clinton. Whoever wins the Military Industrial Complex will still win. If it's Clinton she'll willingly support them, if it's Trump he wouldn't have the will or ability to go against them for long.

            Heck the way things have been going you might even do better if the Chinese pick your leaders.

            Or maybe outsource the whole thing to India - the World's Largest Democracy - you'd likely get equally crappy results but at least it'll be cheaper.
          • (Score: 3, Interesting) by c0lo on Tuesday September 25 2018, @09:27AM

            by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday September 25 2018, @09:27AM (#739602) Journal

            I do think the USA influences elections and coups all over the world

            So, fair is fair, you'd have no problem if China would try to organize a coup in US?

            --
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 25 2018, @10:57PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 25 2018, @10:57PM (#739916)

          What is the single thread performance.

          Making that fast is where most of the technology is.

      • (Score: 4, Insightful) by bob_super on Tuesday September 25 2018, @04:07PM

        by bob_super (1357) on Tuesday September 25 2018, @04:07PM (#739731)

        You're not completely wrong, but I'll emphasize what the others have already said: In this war, China's best soldiers have always carried US passports.
        Deng XiaoPing did the "art of war" thing, learnt about his enemy's weakness, and leveraged the greed and Wall street's short-shitedness (I'll keep the actual typo).
        India and Mexico are trying to do the same, so are the Philippines and Vietnam, and soon half of Africa.
        Proper management of the problem would be to hang the traitors, burn the Walmarts, and fairly tariff the imports based on how much slave wages give a competitive advantage. Oh, and fix the fact that healthcare in the US is an insane and unsustainable burden.
        Holding my breath right now.

  • (Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Tuesday September 25 2018, @02:33AM (3 children)

    by MichaelDavidCrawford (2339) Subscriber Badge <mdcrawford@gmail.com> on Tuesday September 25 2018, @02:33AM (#739503) Homepage Journal

    Googling seems to indicate that some i5s have it while some don't.

    My Mid 2014 Mac mini Model Identifier Macmini7,1 is slow as molasses. It works great for developing drivers because they don't have much source code, while I use me $$$ Quad Core i7 MacBook Pro as my testing target because it boots really fast.

    If my mini indeed doesn't have hyperthreading, that would explain some of the slowness.

    Another reason my Pro boots so fast is that it doesn't have SATA storage - neither rotating nor Flash - rather its storage is Flash on a PCIe card. My mini has rotating media.

    I actually managed to find an external USB3 enclosure for my 2012 MacBook Pro's PCIe flash. That's a very narrow market segment but happily it enabled me to recover my data when that box Drank The Kool-Ade.

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    Yes I Have No Bananas. [gofundme.com]
    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by seeprime on Tuesday September 25 2018, @04:36AM (2 children)

      by seeprime (5580) on Tuesday September 25 2018, @04:36AM (#739546)

      It sounds like you need to clone your Mini's hard drive onto a solid state drive, which are cheat enough to buy in larger sizes today. The data transfer rate will increase by 300 to 400%. The hard drive is the performance bottleneck.

      • (Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Tuesday September 25 2018, @05:21AM (1 child)

        by MichaelDavidCrawford (2339) Subscriber Badge <mdcrawford@gmail.com> on Tuesday September 25 2018, @05:21AM (#739553) Homepage Journal

        I actually bought a 1 TB Western Digital USB 3 Flash drive for a song, but I'm using it for backup and file transfer.

        I expect I'll buy a Thunderbolt 2 SSD Drive [macsales.com], but not until I buy an HDMI monitor.

        My mini just has two Thundbolt ports; presently I'm using a VGA with a Thunderbolt to VGA adapter, with my other Thunderbolt port being taken up by a Firewire adapter that I use for two-machine debugging.

        The guy at the desk next to me has the Jesus Big inwardly curved monitor. He tells me that once you try such a monitor "there is no going back", however I really don't need that much screen real estate.

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        Yes I Have No Bananas. [gofundme.com]
        • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Freeman on Tuesday September 25 2018, @08:52PM

          by Freeman (732) on Tuesday September 25 2018, @08:52PM (#739864) Journal

          I've not afforded a new monitor as a 32" 720p LCD has been plenty for me. Now, you can get a similar one for near $200. It's quite nice to have a screen of that size. Much larger and it really starts to be too large for a desktop machine.

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          Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
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