Following HP's announcement of new ZBook mobile workstations, Intel has confirmed that the memory controller in 9th generation Intel Core processors will support up to 128 GB of DRAM. AMD's memory controller should also support 128 GB of DRAM:
Normally mainstream processors only support 64GB, by virtue of two memory channels, two DIMMs per memory channel (2DPC), and the maximum size of a standard consumer UDIMM being 16GB of DDR4, meaning 4x16GB = 64GB. However the launch of two different technologies, both double height double capacity 32GB DDR4 modules from Zadak and G.Skill, as well as new 16Gb DDR4 chips coming from Samsung, means that technically in a consumer system with four memory slots, up to 128GB might be possible.
With AMD, the company has previously stated that its memory controller can support future memory that comes to market (with qualification), however Intel has been steadfast in limiting its memory support on its chips specifically within the specification. HP is now pre-empting the change it its latest launch with the following footnote:
1. 128GB memory planned to be available in December 2018
This has forced Intel into a statement, which reads as the following:
The new 9th Gen Intel Core processors memory controller is capable of supporting DDR4 16Gb die density DIMMs which will allow the processors to support a total system memory capacity of up to 128GB when populating both motherboard memory channels with 2 DIMMs per Channel (2DPC) using these DIMMs. As DDR4 16Gb die density DIMMs have only recently become available, we are now validating them, targeting an update in a few months' time.
Here's an example of double height, double capacity 32 GB memory modules from G.Skill, which uses 8 Gb DRAM chips.
These are the Samsung 32 GB SO-DIMM DDR4 modules for laptops mentioned in the article. They are of a normal size but use Samsung's latest 16 Gb chips instead of 8 Gb.
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Samsung Unveils 32 GB DDR4-2666 SO-DIMMs
Samsung on Wednesday introduced its first consumer products based on its 16 Gb DDR4 memory chips demonstrated earlier this year. The new SO-DIMMs are aimed at high-performance notebooks that benefit from both speed and capacity of memory modules.
Samsung's new 32 GB DDR4 SO-DIMMs based on 16 Gb DDR4 memory ICs (integrated circuits) are rated for a 2666 MT/s data transfer rate at 1.2 V. Because the 16 Gb memory chips are made using Samsung's 10 nm-class process technology, the new module is claimed to be 39% more energy efficient than the company's previous-gen 16 GB SO-DIMM based on 20 nm-class ICs. According to Samsung, a laptop equipped with 64 GB of new memory consumes 4.578 W in active mode, whereas a notebook outfitted with 64 GB of previous-gen DDR4 consumes 7.456 W in active mode.
Insert obligatory ECC comment here.
Samsung press release. Also at Tom's Hardware and DigiTimes.
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 16 2018, @01:03AM
"No." It's a simple - yet powerful - word. Yet, despite this, the latest generations did not grasp this word's meaning, having never been told, "No." This has resulted in an entire generation of people who are whiny, entitled, and do not understand boundaries.
This is all too simple to see, but what is less simple is envisioning a real solution to the problem. If the newer generations' parents aren't going to teach them boundaries, then who will? Schools? The government? No. It would have to be men like Warrenson.
Warrenson. He was a man who was profoundly concerned about the future. In fact, no one spent more time thinking about the future and worrying about future generations than Warrenson. That was ultimately the reason why he was currently standing before that little girl: To teach her the meaning of discipline.
Discipline. It was something that this bratty little girl clearly did not comprehend. Her former actions proved this, which was why Warrenson had no choice but to instill a sense of boundaries and discipline within her. And he was an iron-willed man who would follow through on his word.
"Take this! And this!" Warrenson bellowed, as he slammed his genitals deep inside her. She screamed and cried for him to stop, but that was merely a sign that his lesson was working. "How dare you! How dare you!" the man screeched. Indeed, her actions had been extremely offensive; it was to the point where most people would have vomited on sight. So, what heinous deeds did the little girl perpetrate that caused Warrenson to experience such wrath? She had stuck her tongue out at him.
"How dare you rebel against men," Warrenson spat out, as he slammed her in the back with his mallet. "And how dare you mother raise you this way," the man continued. Yes, her mother was indeed a bad parent, which was why Warrenson had snuck up behind her and bashed her brains out with his trusty mallet. Now that she was out of the picture, he could focus on guiding the little girl down the proper path. Or, that had been the plan, anyway. The sound of something slumping down onto the concrete was heard.
Broken. The little girl had simply broke. First, she had the audacity to oppose men, and then she dared to turn into a lifeless puppet during Warrenson's valuable lesson, effectively spitting in the face of his kindness! Unbelievable. Though Warrenson was furious, this was such a common occurrence with the new generations that he could not feel too angry. Instead, he simply tossed the girl and her mother into a nearby dumpster and went on his way.
That's right; he had no time to dwell on those wretched pieces of trash. There were plenty more children who were in need of Warrenson's guidance, after all...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 16 2018, @01:18AM (1 child)
You used to make good calculators, now you just leak trade secrets.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 16 2018, @01:26AM
They used to make a number of good things besides calculators. Mini computers, electronic test instruments, bulletproof laser printers....
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 16 2018, @01:54AM (2 children)
What's with all this DDR4 shit? Where is the DDR5?
(Score: 2) by takyon on Tuesday October 16 2018, @02:52AM (1 child)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDR5_SDRAM [wikipedia.org]
2019-2020.
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(Score: 2) by c0lo on Tuesday October 16 2018, @03:56AM
Revive me when they reach DDR64 spec, will ye?
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(Score: 5, Funny) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday October 16 2018, @02:21AM (4 children)
At work, the laptops are fairly new. Yet, they've been castrated at the memory level. I won't even mess with them, because they rely on virtual memory in place of memory. People sit and stare at their screen, waiting, and waiting, and waiting for a document to load. Installing just 8 gig of memory would allow those machines to operate in a reasonable fashion.
And, here we are, discussing 128 gig laptops. Wow.
I've asked my boss why he didn't install more memory. "It's the company's machine, I didn't spec this thing." "Yeah, but, you make enough to purchase larger memory sticks, and just put the damned things in there. Hell, I can afford that, and you make ten times what I do by virtue of being a dickhead." "You can't just add memory to the company's machines! It belongs to the company!" "Alright - well, I'll be back in half an hour, maybe your document will be loaded by then."
We're gonna be able to vacation in Gaza, Cuba, Venezuela, Iran and maybe Minnesota soon. Incredible times.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 16 2018, @04:13AM (1 child)
2 gigs is probably MORE than enough for your work; you've just got crappy software.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday October 16 2018, @02:13PM
Well, yes, crappy software. Microsoft. What would you expect? But, I'll never talk those fools into upgrading to Linux, or BSD, or any other sensible system. Microsoft Office accounts for the vast majority of our documents. Then there is JD Edwards, which mostly loads faster than anything in Office. I could start listing the rest of the vendors, but NOTHING drags ass so badly as Microsoft.
We're gonna be able to vacation in Gaza, Cuba, Venezuela, Iran and maybe Minnesota soon. Incredible times.
(Score: 2) by RS3 on Tuesday October 16 2018, @04:46PM (1 child)
So your labor value is less than some RAM? Or maybe they're just keeping you chained to a desk (PC)? Or maybe they're trying to make you look slow and inefficient for some nefarious reason? I think it's time for some "resource management". I'd figure out whose machine has more RAM and swap the RAM when nobody's looking.
Windows does far too much swapping (paging). I've read all the babbling explanations, but it makes no sense to me. Why I have 1 gig free RAM and 1 gig of stuff swapped out makes no sense. Linux only swaps when it has to, and normally only processes that are idle for a long time.
(Score: 3, Informative) by toddestan on Wednesday October 17 2018, @03:37AM
Windows tries to keep some ram available so it's there if you need it. It will swap out that 1 GB to free up 1 GB of RAM even if there's still enough ram, so if you suddenly decide to launch Photoshop it has the ram available to do it. Linux is a bit more lax on that, which means that when you try to launch Gimp and there's no free RAM then Linux has to suddenly swap 1 GB of stuff out to make room. There's pros and cons to both approaches obviously - Linux is fast while you have enough ram, until all of a sudden it isn't when it runs out. Windows tends to be a bit more responsive on lower end machines, but does a lot of unnecessary disk grinding because it doesn't know what the user is going to do.
(Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Tuesday October 16 2018, @03:20AM (7 children)
That's what my Xeon box has. FB-DIMM too, so Mom once asked me, "Mike, could you show me how to do an orderly shutdown of your space heater?"
This because she knows that it's unsafe to leave a space heater on when one is asleep.
I've loaded that box quite heavily yet there's never been any paging.
My MacBook Pro has 16 GB, but I think that's DDR5 or so. It really does not need 16 GB but there was no option for less.
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(Score: 2) by takyon on Tuesday October 16 2018, @03:38AM (6 children)
Get real plz.
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(Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Tuesday October 16 2018, @05:04AM (5 children)
Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 16 2018, @05:31AM (4 children)
The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog's back.
(Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Tuesday October 16 2018, @07:14AM (3 children)
Azerty
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 16 2018, @10:24AM (2 children)
Dvorak
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 16 2018, @11:53AM (1 child)
Alex, I'd like what they're having for $200.
(Score: 2) by Freeman on Tuesday October 16 2018, @04:50PM
One can of dehydrated water coming right up.
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 16 2018, @08:18AM (1 child)
But I can't see anything! There is a heatsink on it. Where is the pron??? I want to see how the chips are laid out.
(Score: 2) by takyon on Tuesday October 16 2018, @12:24PM
I found plenty of photos [tomshardware.com] of double height modules posing, but no nudes.
Actually this [guru3d.com] might be one: https://www.guru3d.com/index.php?ct=news&action=file&id=29510 [guru3d.com]
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