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Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey wants to fix 'filter bubbles' on the social network
[...] Dorsey noted that the site by design allows users to follow certain accounts, which could skew their perception of the world. If users followed a certain topic or interest, they might see more tweets from people with different viewpoints, he said.
Twitter needs to give users more tools to break down these bubbles, Dorsey acknowledged.
But as social media sites face allegations that it's suppressing conservative voices, these companies are also grappling with free speech concerns.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 19 2018, @04:59PM (1 child)
... just to sit around and gaze at your naval.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 19 2018, @11:53PM
If you have one or more ships, I imagine gazing at them is not to be dismissed as valueless.
(Score: 3, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 19 2018, @05:22PM (11 children)
Orange man bad
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 19 2018, @05:42PM
AHAHAHA, best MEME ever.
Why would Jack have all the NPCs banned, but allow real bots to persist? Maybe he is just as full of shit as it appears?
(Score: 5, Insightful) by ikanreed on Friday October 19 2018, @08:46PM (9 children)
So you guys really don't realize that you look like complete and utter retards?
Like, when I heard about this, "No one is so retarded as to go 'yes this makes me look like I'm smart'", but no, the new right wing "idea" is to take one of the dumbest philosophical concepts that's practically synonymous with young-teen stoners, and filter it through being the kind of loser who spends their whole life playing games.
Ya'll are actually real. I'm amazed.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by jmorris on Friday October 19 2018, @08:58PM (6 children)
That is because the meme is aimed right at you. The person being pointed out for ridicule rarely laughs, everyone else does.
For a couple of years now people like you have been robotically calling people like me Russian bots, Russian agents and far worse. So now the chans have flipped the script. And it works. You guys not only do not think, you punish it. Every "thought" in your mind must come prepackaged and stamped with the blessing of a Blue-Check Twitter account, a late nite "comic", a MSM talking head or another similar approved authority figure. Your talking points are utterly predictable to the point the permitted range you you can debate can be replaced with an algorithm. You preach Diversity and Tolerance but obviously lie since any diversity of thought will be met with an intolerant mob.
(Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 19 2018, @10:09PM
You are describing yourself. #facepalm
You are indeed real. Real dumb.
(Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 19 2018, @10:14PM (1 child)
Um, those weren't people, jmorris, those were other Russian bots. And, like, they would know about you, wouldn't they?
(Score: 2) by Bot on Sunday October 21 2018, @08:32PM
> Um, those weren't people, jmorris, those were other Russian bots
well, the fact that they are Russian does not make them less "people" than you and me.
Account abandoned.
(Score: 3, Flamebait) by ikanreed on Saturday October 20 2018, @12:12AM (2 children)
There is no diversity of thought to be gained from you. Your wing of ideology hasn't contributed anything resembling genuine input into the national debate for upwards of 40 years now. Start having actual thoughts.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 20 2018, @12:59PM
Sometimes, one's thoughts are just fundamentally correct, and represent the foundation for all further thought.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 20 2018, @01:11PM
I didn't realize that repeating "Shame!" as loudly as possible in someone's face counted as "diversity of thought".
I didn't realize that accosting congressmen in elevators with your made-up sob story of being groped counted as "genuine input into the national debate".
Shame! SHAME! SHAME! SHAME!!!!11111
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 19 2018, @10:04PM
Orange man bad.
Nobody is illegal.
No borders, no wall, no USA at all!
It's about being a decent human being.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 21 2018, @12:59AM
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(Score: 4, Interesting) by urza9814 on Friday October 19 2018, @05:36PM (14 children)
I think they're focused on the wrong filter. Focus less on how users filter what they receive, and start looking at how users filter what they *say*. People think they're following *people* when they're actually following *topics*. For example, my girlfriend has three instagram accounts -- one for her friends, one for pictures of her dog, one for other pictures she takes. So then she ends up filtering how other people perceive her -- there's a version that's super into dogs and doesn't give a crap about anything else, there's another version that only cares about photography, etc. And she does that specifically to avoid certain comments. So people who love dogs can follow her dog profile without her getting dragged into political arguments or whatever. But that's precisely the problem -- you clearly have some level of respect for the people you follow, and maybe it would change your opinions if you ever actually saw theirs, but you don't. Because they don't want you to. Because they sanitize everything they post to be minimally offensive to a particular audience. THAT is the real "filter bubble".
And a large part of that started when employers started abusing social networks as free background check services. That seems to be what got everyone convinced that they need to start filtering themselves and creating private profiles. That plus every minor celebrity having every marginally offensive tweet dissected day after day by the media who somehow thinks this crap is "news"...
If Twitter *really* wants to do something about this, they'll add a ban on this kind of crap into their terms of service and start prosecuting abuse.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 19 2018, @05:44PM (12 children)
I don't get this desire to share crappy pictures with everyone and everyone's dog.
It sounds like the kind of activity you'd program an automaton to engage in, so as to appear social. So, now, imagine a world filled with such automatons, trapped in a situation where they're all talking to each other, all trying to fit in like sentient beings. That's what this is; that's the situation social media has created.
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 19 2018, @06:10PM (11 children)
pot. kettle. black.
(Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 19 2018, @06:16PM (10 children)
pot. kettle black.
(Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 19 2018, @06:17PM (9 children)
pot. kettle. black. :P
(Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 19 2018, @08:22PM (8 children)
Black is the pot, black is the kettle, redundancy can't exist without itself.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 19 2018, @08:51PM (7 children)
Pot. Kettle. Black. ^_^
(Score: 4, Insightful) by aristarchus on Friday October 19 2018, @10:20PM (6 children)
NPC is the new SJW? PKB? WTF? All you alt-rightwing nutjobs need to appraise the rest of the community we you switch out derogatory acronyms like that, or it just makes you more, if that were possible, incomprehensible.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 19 2018, @10:42PM
Watch MSNBC for 1 hour and then CNN for 15 minutes to receive the patch signal.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 20 2018, @12:18AM
I think we can read NPC is the new SJW, except this time the irony is on the accuser's part. SJW derives from "keyboard warrior" so retains its sarcastic tone. The "social justice" aspect can also be sarcastic because most people the term is meant to describe support capitalism, and capitalism promotes social injustice, but this is likely lost on alt-righties.
NPC, however, has maximum irony, because the speaker in that case tends to, well, act like a Non-Player Character. I believe what NPC is trying to get at is the authoritarian follower instinct. So as we can see, this will make even Acme's top of the line irony meter overload and explode spectacularly, because the people using the term are, themselves, right-wing authoritarian followers. The solipsism angle is just a bonus.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 20 2018, @12:23AM (3 children)
Pisses you off to be called a 'bot' huh? Maybe you should not dehumanize others? Do not like the mirror being held up? Maybe if you make more stereotypes of 'alt-right' people and 'those other people' and 'how only they are derogatory' you can get them to just listen to you huh? Maybe you can 'warn us' more?
OR how about you try listening to them and use the Socratic method and change their minds?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 20 2018, @08:32AM
They don’t have minds to change.
And if they did, they would be too hamfistedly stubborn, and you know it.
(Score: 2) by aristarchus on Saturday October 20 2018, @10:16AM (1 child)
I listened. They are imbeciles. Totally devoid of reason, and totally ignorant of the world about them. Change their minds? No, you just punch people like that in the face, since that is the only thing Proud Incels understand. I do not dehumanize, they have made themselves deplorables, the incorrigables, the irredeemable. And you, oh slovenly AC, have just cast your lot with the Nazis. We will hunt you down, listen to you when you testify before the Tribunal, and confess to your crimes against humanity. We ARE Anonymous. We do not forget. Expect us. You will pay for your intentional ignorance. Pay dearly.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 20 2018, @12:07PM
Orange man bad
Nazi bad
Orange man nazi
#PunchNazis
(Score: 3, Funny) by krishnoid on Friday October 19 2018, @06:17PM
They just need a simple virus [xkcd.com].
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 19 2018, @06:16PM (14 children)
You can't make someone hear something they don't want to hear. You can put it in their face, they'll ignore it. You can put it on TV or the radio, they'll ignore it. You could spam it all over their email, txt message, twitter feeds, whatever - they'll ignore it.
It's almost like covering everything in advertisements trained people to ignore everything they aren't looking to hear/find/learn.
(Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 19 2018, @06:26PM (3 children)
That's why Capitalism is better than Democracy.
A delusional, NPC mob will easily vote to quash the sentient few. That is what happens when the Men-with-Guns are controlled by "votes", freely given out to everyone and his dead dog. When you can just vote for more "free" stuff, you receive no signal that your choices are bad and will end up destroying you.
The dumber a person is, the less a person is able to defer gratification, which compounds the problem: It's much easier for the dumbfucks to vote for lots of candy now, rather than eat their damn meat and veggies instead, only to enjoy a treat once a week; the larger the suffrage (including the inviting of the 3rd world into the West), the more this is a problem.
(Score: 2, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 19 2018, @06:48PM (2 children)
I presume you are gratified 24/7
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 19 2018, @06:52PM (1 child)
They don't spend their time arguing about fundamental philosophies of societal organization.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 19 2018, @08:51PM
You just disproved yourself. Good job!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 19 2018, @06:33PM
Hmm you sure?
(Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 19 2018, @06:46PM (1 child)
"Comment Below Threshold"? Repost!
That's why Capitalism is better than Democracy.
A delusional, NPC mob will easily vote to quash the sentient few. That is what happens when the Men-with-Guns are controlled by "votes", freely given out to everyone and his dead dog. When you can just vote for more "free" stuff, you receive no signal that your choices are bad and will end up destroying you.
The dumber a person is, the less a person is able to defer gratification, which compounds the problem: It's much easier for the dumbfucks to vote for lots of candy now, rather than eat their damn meat and veggies instead, only to enjoy a treat once a week; the larger the suffrage (including the inviting of the 3rd world into the West), the more this is a problem.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 19 2018, @07:10PM
*mods parent down*
*walks away*
*walks back up to parent and presses the talk button again like he's an NPC or something...*
(Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 19 2018, @07:14PM (2 children)
"Comment Below Threshold"? Repost!
That's why Capitalism is better than Democracy.
A delusional, NPC mob will easily vote to quash the sentient few. That is what happens when the Men-with-Guns are controlled by "votes", freely given out to everyone and his dead dog. When you can just vote for more "free" stuff, you receive no signal that your choices are bad and will end up destroying you.
The dumber a person is, the less a person is able to defer gratification, which compounds the problem: It's much easier for the dumbfucks to vote for lots of candy now, rather than eat their damn meat and veggies instead, only to enjoy a treat once a week; the larger the suffrage (including the inviting of the 3rd world into the West), the more this is a problem.
(Score: 3, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 19 2018, @07:19PM (1 child)
Wow! It's just like you're an NPC!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 20 2018, @04:43AM
That's why I love this community. Quality always rises to the top.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 19 2018, @10:28PM (1 child)
"Comment Below Threshold"? Repost!
That's why Capitalism is better than Democracy.
A delusional, NPC mob will easily vote to quash the sentient few. That is what happens when the Men-with-Guns are controlled by "votes", freely given out to everyone and his dead dog. When you can just vote for more "free" stuff, you receive no signal that your choices are bad and will end up destroying you.
The dumber a person is, the less a person is able to defer gratification, which compounds the problem: It's much easier for the dumbfucks to vote for lots of candy now, rather than eat their damn meat and veggies instead, only to enjoy a treat once a week; the larger the suffrage (including the inviting of the 3rd world into the West), the more this is a problem.
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 20 2018, @12:26AM
Oh god! You're one of those NPCs in a Bethesda game who walks into the shop when I'm selling crap, gets right up in my screen, and starts going on about how he used to be a logical thinker until he took an arrow to the knee! Have you seen those NPCs from Pipedot? They've got curved swords!
Curved!
Swords!
(Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 20 2018, @02:30AM (1 child)
"Comment Below Threshold"? Repost!
That's why Capitalism is better than Democracy.
A delusional, NPC mob will easily vote to quash the sentient few. That is what happens when the Men-with-Guns are controlled by "votes", freely given out to everyone and his dead dog. When you can just vote for more "free" stuff, you receive no signal that your choices are bad and will end up destroying you.
The dumber a person is, the less a person is able to defer gratification, which compounds the problem: It's much easier for the dumbfucks to vote for lots of candy now, rather than eat their damn meat and veggies instead, only to enjoy a treat once a week; the larger the suffrage (including the inviting of the 3rd world into the West), the more this is a problem.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 20 2018, @04:13AM
My god man! Don't you get it yet?! Those NPCs... their swords were amazing. Nice and long and thick. But then I noticed that they were curved. Madness! Curved swords!
Curved!
Swords!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 19 2018, @06:30PM
resistance is futile. you will be assimilated.
(Score: 1, Flamebait) by VLM on Friday October 19 2018, @07:22PM (2 children)
Now, if you actually read what the guy said, assuming its quoted correctly, its kinda a different story from the usual "left wing NPCs are boring everyone to the right of Marx is literally Hitler".
I am not a leftist nor a woman nor a NPC so I don't use twitter but I am vaguely aware how it works and I thought they already had tools like search bars and "Follow" type buttons. So I assume he's plotting something else. Location based or forced advertising/propaganda or something else?
I'm just saying it might be entertaining to speculate on what, rather than just "twitter is a blue hell"
(Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 19 2018, @08:24PM
I question whether you are even human. Seems more likely you're a sentient scare crow made up of all the dirty sweaty sheets that never got washed after "meetings". Even Hitler had more of a conscience than you.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 20 2018, @12:17AM
The thing is they have a 'moderation issue'. You need moderation to fling out the bad players. The second problem is their moderators are the bad players too. They just have not realized it. They are I would say incapable of seeing it. The third issue is the 'bad players' are the *really* interesting ones. They say crazy things. They do crazy things. The rest of us look on in awe at the spectacle. I have seen board after board laid to waste by bad players. Especially if they are put in charge of the ban button. I speculate that they are not trolls. I think they honestly think they are correcting everyone else out there. A real troll (like the NPC thing going on) just does it for the LOLz. But what you are seeing is not trolling but 'true believers'. Belief that they can not do or be wrong and everyone else is.
In this case they are literally dismantling the one thing they have to attract people to their platforms. The network effect. I can only conclude 2 differing things and they may not be mutually exclusive. They are either stupid and have no idea what actually runs their business and/or they have so much malice for anything different than them they project it on everyone else.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 20 2018, @12:20AM
Cut them into many small pieces. Problem solved!
(Score: 1, Troll) by RandomFactor on Saturday October 20 2018, @01:58AM (5 children)
and be 'the good censor' is the same old patronizing "we're smarter than you" BS.
It is not what we want our social media sites to be doing.
This is why GAB.AI has come into existance.
В «Правде» нет известий, в «Известиях» нет правды
(Score: 4, Interesting) by canopic jug on Saturday October 20 2018, @10:40AM (4 children)
Except that Gab.ai censors quite heavily, more than Twitter and Faecebook. Discourse there is limited to a few approved narratives, nothing more. I only wonder if the management have always been fascist and were just faking being about free speech or if there was a turnover among them shifting the balance more recently. I haven't looked, won't look, but would still be curious to find out. Mastodon is not any better, just on the other side of the two-dimensional political spectrum. It may be federated but the block lists are published centrally, so in practice talk there about free speech or freedom of association is bullshit there too.
Money is not free speech. Elections should not be auctions.
(Score: 2) by RandomFactor on Saturday October 20 2018, @11:53AM (3 children)
Fascist and Nazi as accusations are meaningless these days. They have simply become general terms for 'someone who doesn't agree' used to bolster arguments by shutting down discussion and disagreement.
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What evidence of heavy censorship have you seen on Gab?
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1) they took down a post by some whackjob when forced to by their registrar to keep their hosting.
2) their android app, in order to be hosted in Google's app store, is required to use a stupid keyword filter
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Both are compromises to reality and certainly neither is perfect, but also neither match what you are saying.
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Now i've seen every imaginable opinion and viewpoint on Gab. There's no denying the user-base is weighted heavily toward the legions disaffected with current social media, but that isn't censorship. Is there any slight possibility that 'heavy censorship' is really just a way of saying the prevailing opinion there doesn't appeal to you?
В «Правде» нет известий, в «Известиях» нет правды
(Score: 2) by canopic jug on Saturday October 20 2018, @01:18PM (2 children)
No. They come down with the ban hammer frequently and hard. It picked up this year and I finally stopped paying attention to them when they banned TuxMachines [schestowitz.com].
Money is not free speech. Elections should not be auctions.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by RandomFactor on Saturday October 20 2018, @03:48PM (1 child)
Tuxmachines is alive and well on Gab with posts going back over a year that I can see with almost daily postings.
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The closest thing I can find was a single posted comment about "tuxmachinesNazis" being banned (still surprising if valid, even with a name like that). The blog post you linked is the only place that references tuxmachines being banned on Gab (which it is obviously not.) Nothing else anywhere. No responses, no questions, no search engine references, nothing.
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I notice that tuxmachines is also on twitter and mastodon, but 'tuxmachinesNazis' is not present on them either.
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Can you clarify or do you have any more of this frequent/hard banning that might shed more light?
В «Правде» нет известий, в «Известиях» нет правды
(Score: 2) by RandomFactor on Saturday October 20 2018, @03:54PM
Regardless I'll keep an eye out, but I just haven't seen things disappear on me there, whereas I've gotten kind of used to things being whacked completely, de-emphasized in my feeds, having content disappear, and demonetization on the main social media feeds.
В «Правде» нет известий, в «Известиях» нет правды
(Score: 2) by Bot on Sunday October 21 2018, @08:27PM
"too many bubbles" = "we want just one"
BTW this is not a left or right issue. This is a control issue and control seekers switch from their left leg to their right leg faster than you can say "pravda".
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