BBC:
Mr Brown, now 24, dropped out of college and spent the following years at home - gaming, in chat rooms and reading about politics.
He became almost entirely immersed in an online world of "echo chambers" where he felt the pull of extremism and cybercrime.
Mr Brown, from Ashton, Cornwall, says he became increasingly "eccentric" and eventually lost touch with reality.
"I can count the number of times I went out in a seven-year period on both of my hands," he says.
...
He finally decided to seek help and ended up taking part in the Real Ideas Organisation's (RIO) Game Changer programme, which aims to encourage young people to develop skills and overcome any issues they face before getting them into work, education or training.
7 years. Not bad. Can anyone beat that?
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @11:38AM (6 children)
If going out involves interacting with other people, he didn't miss much. OTOH 7 years seems about right for someone in an intimate relationship with themselves.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @12:28PM (3 children)
3D is PD.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @04:10PM (2 children)
If only people really believed that, rather than it just being a meme spread around almost entirely by filthy normies (i.e. those who are attracted to real people).
(Score: 2) by unauthorized on Saturday November 10 2018, @06:31PM (1 child)
The original meme is based on a true story. I can't remember the name of the app now, but years ago there was a mobile tamagochi-esque anime girlfriend simulator that was all the rage in Japan, and one dude decided to actually start treating the app like a real relationship. Long story short, 4chan found that particular event funny, and made it into a joke. While the term caught on in wizard circles later, it started very much as a joke.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 11 2018, @12:06AM
The specific meme "3DPD" comes from a 4chan thread in which a Japanese person complains about Americans in broken English: "Americans are pig disgusting!"
This peculiar phrase was then paired with a more appropriate object, 3D (as opposed to 2D anime) women.
NB: while there are many similarities and considerable overlap, wizards/incels are very much distinct from the otaku who enjoy a pure and devoted relationship with their 2D waifu.
Fun fact: Waifuism is the third most popular religion in Japan, behind Shintō and Buddhism.
(Score: 0, Disagree) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @03:49PM (1 child)
Not "themselves".
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @10:45PM
Ugh. Yet again, a slimy incel triggered by the word "they."
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @12:09PM (1 child)
Read history.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 11 2018, @03:45AM
If you had read either you'd know they're inseparable.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @12:30PM
I feel personally attacked.
(Score: 4, Funny) by SomeGuy on Saturday November 10 2018, @12:31PM
How very Arthur Dent.
Was he quoted as saying "I seem to be having tremendous difficulty with my lifestyle" (and thereby inadvertently starting an intergalactic war)
Maybe it would help if he got a small dog?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @12:58PM (1 child)
Should have stuck in there for at least 2 more years.
(Score: 2) by RandomFactor on Saturday November 10 2018, @02:17PM
He got an itch.
В «Правде» нет известий, в «Известиях» нет правды
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @01:03PM (26 children)
No mention of where he was getting money from, or who was bringing him food.
These sorts of issues can be just as much the fault of the people who enable this behavior.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @01:32PM
It says he was living at home, with the implication that his parents took care of him.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @01:38PM
In his case, sure. But some people are retired or just wealthy and can have the same sort of problems. At least in those cases they can afford to take time to figure it out without relying on someone else though.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @04:01PM (23 children)
His mum was mentally and physically damaged, it says.
It says explicitly:
Undoubtedly a single mother; undoubtedly on welfare.
Even when it's written there explicitly for you to see, you fuckers still can't perceive it.
(Score: 4, Interesting) by acid andy on Saturday November 10 2018, @04:20PM (22 children)
What's your point?
Seriously, what's your point?
If a cat has kittens, does a rat have rittens, a bat bittens and a mat mittens?
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @05:17PM (2 children)
As a general rule, single mothers shouldn't get government assistance. Single mothers are some of the most self-centered and narcissistic people around.
They offload their responsibility to other people and everybody suffers as a result. It's really not fair to the kids to be neglected like that because the mother couldn't figure out how to manage a working relationship.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @05:53PM (1 child)
Then why do courts continually assign kids in divorce almost elusively to mothers? Oh yes, because of "nurturing"... you get what you pay for.
https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2013/jun/13/single-fathers-uk-statistics [theguardian.com]
https://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/rp-pr/fl-lf/famil/stat2000/p4.html [justice.gc.ca] - probably similar in UK
Anyway, the dude was running away from reality. Games, better than drugs. Only few years gone instead of wasted life.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @06:03PM
That's a remnant from the old days, when that was literally a woman's job: To raise children while men were out trying to gather resources for the family.
From what I can tell, women are not more nurturing, and tend to do a horrible job or raising children who are older than perhaps 7 years old.
(Score: 0, Troll) by crafoo on Saturday November 10 2018, @05:23PM (18 children)
The point is that single mothers destroy generations, and we enable it.
(Score: 3, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @06:31PM
Lol, thie incel misogynerds are outing themselves quite nicely rhese days.
(Score: 5, Informative) by acid andy on Saturday November 10 2018, @06:43PM (8 children)
Not all single parents chose their outcome. Often their partner leaves against their will. Or they cheat on them. Enable them? So you'd prefer them to starve to death?
If a cat has kittens, does a rat have rittens, a bat bittens and a mat mittens?
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @07:14PM (4 children)
You've chosen the dumbest interpretation of your opponent's point.
Weak sauce.
I wonder how many single mothers are worthy of receive the money stolen from other people (mostly men, who are straight and white); certainly, I'd say a such worthy mother would need to be one who desperately didn't want to be on Welfare, and who escaped being on welfare within 1 year or 2. What are the stats on that?
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @08:34PM (3 children)
You've chosen the dumbest counter argument ever, snowflake. Those single mothers are doing more to propagate the human race the the single insels contributing to society for the porn they are watching.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @08:55PM (2 children)
So, I'm not so sure you're correct.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @11:04PM (1 child)
Most single mothers work for a living and do pay taxes, so the welfare they are getting isn't as big of a chunk as you'd think. Also, they wouldn't have to be on welfare if the country was sane.
Keep blaming the symptoms, that'll totally cure the disease.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @11:20PM
I've watched the government and a single woman collude over multiple years to turn that single woman into a single mom via adoption, and then she went around telling everyone how hard it was to be a single mom, and that she was so thankful that she lived in a society that is willing to take care of those in need.
You can't make this stuff up.
The West is rushing to its death.
(Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 11 2018, @07:12AM
You've chosen the dumbest interpretation of your opponent's point. Nobody said "all single parents chose their outcome".
Weak sauce.
I wonder how many single mothers are worthy to receive the money stolen from other people (mostly men, who are straight and white); certainly, I'd say such a worthy mother would need to be one who desperately doesn't want to be on Welfare, and who would escape being on welfare within 1 year or 2. What are the stats on that?
I've watched the government and a single woman collude over multiple years to turn that single woman into a single mom via adoption, and then she went around telling everyone how hard it was to be a single mom, and that she was so thankful that she lived in a society that is willing to take care of those in need.
You can't make this stuff up.
The West is rushing to its death.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 11 2018, @06:53PM
You've chosen the dumbest interpretation of your opponent's point. Nobody said "all single parents chose their outcome".
Weak sauce.
I wonder how many single mothers are worthy to receive the money stolen from other people (mostly men, who are straight and white); certainly, I'd say such a worthy mother would need to be one who desperately doesn't want to be on Welfare, and who would escape being on welfare within 1 year or 2. What are the stats on that?
I've watched the government and a single woman collude over multiple years to turn that single woman into a single mom via adoption, and then she went around telling everyone how hard it was to be a single mom, and that she was so thankful that she lived in a society that is willing to take care of those in need.
You can't make this stuff up.
The West is rushing to its death.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 12 2018, @08:05PM
You've chosen the dumbest interpretation of your opponent's point. Nobody said "all single parents chose their outcome".
Weak sauce.
I wonder how many single mothers are worthy to receive the money stolen from other people (mostly men, who are straight and white); certainly, I'd say such a worthy mother would need to be one who desperately doesn't want to be on Welfare, and who would escape being on welfare within 1 year or 2. What are the stats on that?
I've watched the government and a single woman collude over multiple years to turn that single woman into a single mom via adoption, and then she went around telling everyone how hard it was to be a single mom, and that she was so thankful that she lived in a society that is willing to take care of those in need.
You can't make this stuff up.
The West is rushing to its death.
(Score: 2) by dry on Sunday November 11 2018, @05:04AM (7 children)
What do you suggest? Killing the kids early? Killing the mothers and releasing the kids into the wild? Perhaps forcing woman and child to stay with the violent pedophile husband?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 11 2018, @05:22AM (6 children)
Statistics show that the children of single mothers are at a huge risk of childhood sexual and physic abuse due to the mother's endless string of "boyfriends".
(Score: 2) by dry on Sunday November 11 2018, @05:30AM (5 children)
Probably true, it happened to my wife after her dad left her mom due to the mom screwing around. What's the fix?
(Score: 0, Disagree) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 11 2018, @07:09AM (4 children)
Do you fuckers want a discussion or not? Assholes.
Goes to reset IP Address
(Score: 2) by dry on Sunday November 11 2018, @08:01AM (3 children)
Ah, the totalitarian solution. I have a hard time accepting that.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 11 2018, @06:55PM (2 children)
You just have to have somewhere to go; if you have nowhere to go and must therefore trespass on someone else's property, then you should be arrested, removed, and institutionalized until you can make arrangements for having a place to be.
You can't just shit in on my property.
(Score: 3, Touché) by dry on Monday November 12 2018, @06:22AM (1 child)
You actually say that you're not totalitarian?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 12 2018, @11:37AM
You have to have somewhere to go (e.g., a family member's care, a charity, etc.), or you're trespassing.
What do does one do with trespassers? We've tried just letting them lay about and shit all over the streets, and that's now gotten out of hand. It's unsanitary and dangerous.
What should we do? If a person will not engage in well ordered behavior voluntarily, then he must be forced into well ordered behavior until he proves to himself that well ordered behavior is good for him, and until he proves to others that he is capable of sustaining well ordered behavior according to his own decisions.
When you're a child, you live within the bounds of someone else's institutions. These people are children.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by cubancigar11 on Saturday November 10 2018, @01:09PM
What's new? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welcome_to_the_N.H.K. [wikipedia.org]
(Score: 5, Insightful) by acid andy on Saturday November 10 2018, @01:35PM (14 children)
Ergo, the purpose of our existence is to work or to do things that prepare us for work. Finding meaning in wage slavery, huh?
Still, if it keeps most people from going loopy, I suppose I shouldn't be too harsh about it. Whatever works. If you're intelligent and open-minded, there comes a point where it can stop working though, I think.
If a cat has kittens, does a rat have rittens, a bat bittens and a mat mittens?
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @02:04PM (3 children)
Welcome to XXI century.
And what I found, especially after certain age (30s), talking with people not about work is highly outdated and in last decade became socially unacceptable. From experience: One half will try to fraud you (males), the other (females) will file a complaint about molesting.
We are nothing but robots, only carbon based, not silicon. Better stay with a full arse in computer, especially if someone's appearance is not in accordance with modern Photoshop standards.
(Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @03:55PM
You sound like a weirdo.
Start making positive changes in your life.
(Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @05:25PM (1 child)
Perhaps if you don't talk about your bank account numbers or your penis, you won't have those problems.
I regularly talk about things that aren't work at work when time permits and I've never had problems with those things.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @07:02PM
Fortunately mentality in my country is such that these are not a good subjects to talk. As well as salaries.
There is a cultural difference between countries, and really, it may change not after airplane travel around half of the world, but when crossing a neighbor country's border. Let me go with an example I experienced: With people in one country you can talk freely about projects done in a free time and it is normal, everyone does something, then you go home and boom - if the project does not provide instant money you suddenly are an unproductive lazy arse.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @03:53PM (4 children)
Unfortunately, you socialists constantly want to strip people of their efforts, and dissipate it into nothingness.
(Score: 4, Informative) by acid andy on Saturday November 10 2018, @04:15PM (3 children)
I'm no socialist.
strip huge, monopolistic, amoral corporations of their directors' bonuses, and dissipate it amongst the littler guys and gals
FTFY. You see, corporations aren't really people.
If a cat has kittens, does a rat have rittens, a bat bittens and a mat mittens?
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @05:20PM
More or less that. If we didn't allow the parasite class to steal everything that isn't nailed down, there's no real reason why the typical worker should have to be at work more than half time. That's more than enough time to get all the productive work we need for society to function to be completed. Especially as we get further along the path to automation. It just doesn't take that much time to produce the essentials. The rest of the time should be for the workers to freely engage in things like arts and recreation. Some people will want to work more than that, but they shouldn't be forced to do so out of fear of homelessness and hunger.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by crafoo on Saturday November 10 2018, @05:27PM (1 child)
More practically, strip corporations of the ability to hold or buy patents and copyrights. They should stay with their original creators. Both are artificial monopolies, and being able to transfer them only means we allow monopolies to be transferred, traded, and accumulated by psychotic MBAs, concentrating wealth and giving power to those that don't actually create new art or ideas. It's perverse.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @06:08PM
The problem with patents/copyrights is that they are a governmental construct rather than a free-market contractual construct—the deep pockets can just purchase the violent coercion of the State, and thereby swoop in to change the rules of the game at the last moment.
You can't expect freedom to be protected by an organization that is explicitly anti-freedom. That's insane.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by shortscreen on Saturday November 10 2018, @07:21PM (4 children)
This appears to be a sales pitch for the RIO program. So yes, playing games for 7 years is a terrible misfortune, wouldn't you rather have spent that time sucking up to your boss and making student loan payments?
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @07:31PM
Don't be afraid to tell your boss he's an idiot, and don't take on loans that are stupid.
Take some fucking responsibility for your choices, asshole.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 11 2018, @05:26AM
Don't be afraid to tell your boss he's an idiot, and don't take on loans that are stupid.
Take some fucking responsibility for your choices, asshole.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 11 2018, @07:14AM
Don't be afraid to tell your boss he's an idiot, and don't take on loans that are stupid.
Take some fucking responsibility for your choices, asshole.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 12 2018, @08:08PM
Don't be afraid to tell your boss he's an idiot, and don't take on loans that are stupid.
Take some fucking responsibility for your choices, asshole.
(Score: 2, Interesting) by krait6 on Saturday November 10 2018, @06:46PM (3 children)
Billy Brown has agoraphobia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agoraphobia [wikipedia.org] and he also seems to suffer from depression. For someone in that situation it can be difficult to find social situations that are "safe" because society tends to pass on expectations such as "you should be working at a job like the rest of us". You can see it in the comments to this story, too. Someone in my family suffers from post-traumatic stress, and (for now) the results are very similar.
What I'm interested in is who Billy Brown is today and what he's learned from his experiences. The game he's come up with sounds like it's fun and helps people connect in a friendly way, and I for one would like to try it. Unfortunately the article doesn't seem to name it nor give a link to further information about it. If information on this is found, please post a link in a comment to this story.
Thanks
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @07:37PM
To me, the comments tend to promote the expectation that "Some people should be forced to enable other people's mental illnesses."
Ultimately, discomfort is what drove this young man to choose another path; what if had been faced with [economic] discomfort much earlier, before his mental state deteriorated even more? You're not doing these people any favors by just handing them a check each month and then pretending they don't exist anymore, which is the only explanation for happened here.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 10 2018, @08:42PM
First world problems. If they had to live in a place like most of humanity, they would have no fucking time for depression and agoraphobia. Now it's just a bunch of snowflakes with their snowflake minds unable to deal with reality enabled by society so they don't have to work. Just look at all the Nazis coming out of the woodwork - most are fucking losers that don't have to work to feed themselves.
So what do you expect if there was a "basic wage"? Happiness? Fuck no! More mental flakiness all around.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 11 2018, @07:16AM
To me, the comments tend to promote the expectation that "Some people should be forced to enable other people's mental illnesses."
Ultimately, discomfort is what drove this young man to choose another path; what if he had been faced with [economic] discomfort much earlier, before his mental state deteriorated even more? You're not doing these people any favors by just handing them a check each month and then pretending they don't exist anymore, which is the only explanation for what happened here.