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posted by martyb on Saturday November 17 2018, @02:22PM   Printer-friendly
from the ARM-ageddon? dept.

Microsoft opens the door to better Windows on ARM apps

Microsoft is removing one of the big limitations of Windows on ARM this week by allowing developers to create 64-bit ARM (ARM64) apps. Developers will be able to recompile existing win32 or Universal Windows Apps to run natively on Windows 10 on ARM hardware. That means 64-bit app performance should get a lot better, as long as developers take the time to recompile.

Microsoft is now relying on developers to use its tools to improve its Windows on ARM efforts. That's a situation the software giant has found itself in before, relying on developers to create Universal Windows Apps for Windows 8, Windows 10, and Windows Phone apps for a variety of new touch-based hardware. It's hard to say whether 64-bit app support will really help move Windows on ARM into the mainstream, but it's certainly laying the ground work for a bigger push by Microsoft.

Also at TechRadar.

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Microsoft accidentally reveals Windows 10 on ARM limitations

Microsoft launched ARM-powered Windows 10 PCs with "all-day" battery life back in December. While HP, Asus, and Lenovo's devices aren't on sale just yet, we're still waiting to hear more about the limitations of Windows 10 running on these new PCs. Microsoft published a full list of limitations last week, spotted first by Thurrott, that details what to expect from Windows 10 on ARM. This list must have been published by accident, as the software giant removed it over the weekend so only cached copies of the information are available.

Only ARM64 drivers are supported and no x64 applications are supported (yet). Games that use a version of OpenGL later than 1.1, hardware-accelerated OpenGL, or "anticheat technologies" won't work on Windows 10 on ARM. The Windows Hypervisor Platform is not supported on ARM.

Also at Engadget and ZDNet.

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VLC Becomes One of First ARM64 Windows Apps 24 comments

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Although ARM-based PCs are now available, apps that utilize native 64-bit architectures on Microsoft's Windows 10 on ARM have been relegated to legacy support for 32-bit apps. Microsoft introduced the proper frameworks for 64-bit apps at its recent BUILD conference, allowing developers to port their apps and begin native app integration. After a small wait, apps are starting to appear; VLC -- the swiss army knife of multimedia players -- is one of the first to launch a dedicated ARM64 app.

Unlike traditional Intel and AMD processors, ARM's architecture has largely been synonymous with mobile devices and tablets, which are often powered by Qualcomm's Snapdragon processors. Microsoft's more recent developments have paved the way for proper ARM architecture within PCs, and promise a whole host of benefits including better affordability, permanent online connection and improved battery preservation.

With a popular free app like VLC making the first move, it's highly probable that other app developers will be encouraged to follow in its footsteps. You can download VLC as you normally would -- via the official website -- just ensure you select the ARM 64 version from the drop down menu.

Source: https://www.engadget.com/2018/06/01/vlc-one-of-first-arm64-windows-apps/


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Huawei Launches ARM-Based Desktop Motherboards 14 comments

Huawei Preps Desktop PC Motherboards Featuring Up To 8 Core Kunpeng 920 ARM v8 CPUs

Huawei is seemingly dipping its fingers into another market, this being the desktop PC market with the recent release of its first consumer PC motherboard. This motherboard houses the Kunpeng 920 ARM v8 Processor. This processor is usually being reserved for server boards but Huawei seems to think with the expandability that these processors offer, their Kunpeng lineup will be able to compete with Intel and AMD in the desktop PC segment.

The supported processors for this motherboard, the Kunpeng 920 ARM v8, offer different core counts, starting with 4 core and 8 core models for the desktop PC segment and scaling all the way up to 64 cores with server motherboards that are also expected to launch later on. The CPU itself is based on a 7nm process node and features support for PCIe 4.0 and DDR4 memory with speeds of up to 2400 MHz.

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  • (Score: 2) by Gaaark on Saturday November 17 2018, @04:31PM

    by Gaaark (41) Subscriber Badge on Saturday November 17 2018, @04:31PM (#763136) Journal

    "Microsoft opens the door to better Windows"

    ummmmm......yeah.

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  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 17 2018, @04:53PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 17 2018, @04:53PM (#763143)

    https://www.windowscentral.com/samsung-galaxy-book2-now-available-verizon-999 [windowscentral.com]

    Seems the whole point of the always-connected initiative is to compete against Apple's iPads and Google's Chromebooks in selling overpriced laptops in the US market through ISPs' contracts, school-boards and government/corporate procurement.

    It won't sell in the EU or Asia. It will be locked down and won't run linux. It will cost 4x the price of equivalent hardware from overseas...

    In short, trash.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 18 2018, @04:55AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 18 2018, @04:55AM (#763363)

      Won't run Linux? Why bother then?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 18 2018, @04:39PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 18 2018, @04:39PM (#763534)

      It will be able to run Linux downloaded through the Windows Store.

  • (Score: 2) by DavePolaschek on Monday November 19 2018, @04:12PM

    by DavePolaschek (6129) on Monday November 19 2018, @04:12PM (#763900) Homepage Journal

    Is that "just recompile" like moving from 68K to PowerPC and then to Intel on Mac?

    Dink Thifferent!

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