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posted by martyb on Wednesday December 05 2018, @06:53PM   Printer-friendly
from the battery-life? dept.

Qualcomm Tech Summit, Day 1: Announcing 5G Partnerships and Snapdragon 855

The third annual Qualcomm Tech Summit has just started, and the first announcements from Day One have been made. To start this event, Qualcomm President Cristano Amon is sharing the company's vision for 2019, primarily around 5G networks and 5G enabled devices. The Tech Summit has a few surprises in store over the next couple of days, including the upcoming announcement of the company's first 5G mobile platform, Snapdragon 855.

[...] The 855-MP consists of two chips, the Snapdragon 855 chipset paired with the X50 modem capable of 5G connections. Qualcomm states that this will be the first mobile platform to support multi-gigabit 5G, along with all the potential that 5G entails.

Also disclosed were some of the chipset targets: the S855, according to Qualcomm, will have industry leading AI inside the chip as well as hardware to accelerate 'extended reality', such as virtual reality and augmented reality. Inside the S855 is Qualcomm's 5th generation multi-core AI-engine, which Qualcomm states will offer up to 3 times the AI performance of the S845 model. Also quoted was that the new S855 includes a separate Computer Vision (CV) image signaling processor, which the company states is an industry first, and will help to enhance computational photography and video capture features. Qualcomm also mentioned gaming, promising next-level gaming experiences to the next generation of premium flagship devices.

From the pictures, it seems obvious that the Snapdragon 855 chipset by itself supports 4G wireless connectivity, and 5G is enabled through the use of the X50 modem as a separate addition. This will add PCB space in mobile devices that previously only used internal modems, reducing volume for other components (such as battery). One would suspect that OEMs intend to offer 5G on only premium devices to begin with, which are often on the larger side of the mobile ecosystem to begin with[sic].

Snapdragon X50 5G NR modem.

Also at The Verge.

See also: Moto 5G Mod at Snapdragon Summit: Lots of Antennas, and S855 Inside?

Related: Intel Speeds Up Rollout of 5G Modems


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Intel Speeds Up Rollout of 5G Modems 7 comments

Intel has announced that it will speed up the launch of its 5G modem "by more than a half-year". It will have peak speeds of up to 6 Gbps:

2019 is shaping up to be a big year for 5G, and Intel — one of tech's biggest mobile players — has finally announced its plans for the next-generation network in the form of its new XMM 8160 5G modem. The XMM 8160 modem is set to be released to manufacturers sometime in the second half of 2019, with the first devices using the chip coming in early 2020.

Intel has big ambitions for the XMM 8160 5G. It envisions using it across phones, PCs, and broadband hubs, with peak speeds of up to 6 gigabits per second. The modem will support both the standalone and non-standalone specs for the 5G NR (New Radio) standard, as well as legacy support for 4G, 3G, and 2G networks all in one chipset. Additionally, Intel says that the modem will support both millimeter wave (mmWave) spectrum as well as lower-band parts of the spectrum.

Qualcomm's Snapdragon X50 5G NR modem will be available to device makers that want to introduce 5G support in 2019.

Also at EE Times and Engadget.

Previously: Apple Could Switch From Qualcomm to Intel and MediaTek for Modems
Intel Announces Development of 5G Modems (Due in 2019)

Related: Intel Integrates LTE Modem Into Custom Multi-Chip Module for New HP Laptop


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MediaTek Dimensity 1000 SoC Supports 5G Speeds, 16 GB RAM, and AV1 Video Decoding 13 comments

MediaTek Dimensity 1000 octa-core SoC promises 5G for the masses when it launches in 2020

The 5G SoC will support 90 Hz QHD displays, up to 16 GB of quad-channel LPDDR4x RAM, Wi-Fi 6, Bluetooth 5.1, hexa-core AI processor, download/upload speeds of up to 4.7/2.5 Gbps, and more with the promise of faster performance than the current Qualcomm Snapdragon 855.

While a handful of 5G smartphones are already available today, they are all prohibitively expensive. The Samsung Galaxy S10 5G, for example, currently retails for $1300 unlocked. MediaTek hopes to be the catalyst for 5G adoption next year by launching an all-in-one SoC solution that integrates an octa-core CPU, octa-core Mali-G77 MC9 GPU, hexa-core AI APU, and a 5G modem for more affordable smartphones.

Called the Dimensity 1000, the SoC will be the first in a series of SoCs with integrated support for 2G, 3G, 4G, and sub-6 GHz 5G networks. MediaTek is also claiming it to be the world's first SoC to support 5G dual-SIM for better worldwide appeal and versatility. While single-SIM smartphones are still prevalent in the U.S., most smartphones overseas tend to carry two SIM slots.

MediaTek's presentation shows that the SoC will support AOMedia Video 1 (AV1) hardware decoding at up to 4K60:

In addition to hardware video encoding and decoding at 4K 60FPS, the MediaTek Dimensity 1000 is the world's 1st mobile SoC with AV1 format support.

Also at AnandTech.

Related: MediaTek Announces 10-Core SoC for Phones and Tablets
MediaTek Helio X30: 10 Cores on a 10nm Process
Qualcomm's Snapdragon 855 SoC Will Optionally Enable 5G Connections with Added X50 Modem
Realtek RTD2983 SoC for 8K TVs: Supports AV1 Codec
Huawei: ARM Cortex-A77 Cores Would Shorten Battery Life (Dimensity 1000 includes 4x Arm Cortex-A77 cores)


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  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 05 2018, @07:13PM (8 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 05 2018, @07:13PM (#770235)

    Why did you post this Takyon? Is this interesting to you?

    Is there someone here who actually finds this interesting? Like, it inspired you to do something in your life? Or to make an investment, or ANYTHING?

    I honestly want to know who cares about this, or what it means to you if you do.

    • (Score: 3, Informative) by takyon on Wednesday December 05 2018, @07:23PM (7 children)

      by takyon (881) <reversethis-{gro ... s} {ta} {noykat}> on Wednesday December 05 2018, @07:23PM (#770241) Journal

      It's 5G. It will make your putrid AC life so much better.

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      • (Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 05 2018, @07:58PM (6 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 05 2018, @07:58PM (#770251)

        I'm glad the AC asked. The AC forced you to admit what the AC implies: Nobody cares.

        • (Score: 3, Informative) by takyon on Wednesday December 05 2018, @08:01PM (5 children)

          by takyon (881) <reversethis-{gro ... s} {ta} {noykat}> on Wednesday December 05 2018, @08:01PM (#770253) Journal

          I'm glad the AC asked.

          *I'm glad I asked.

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          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 05 2018, @08:08PM (4 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 05 2018, @08:08PM (#770258)

            Unless, of course, you're admitting to abusing some kind of administrative feature to check, say, an IP address.

            • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Wednesday December 05 2018, @08:26PM

              by Freeman (732) on Wednesday December 05 2018, @08:26PM (#770261) Journal

              username == AC where username is None.

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            • (Score: 3, Touché) by takyon on Wednesday December 05 2018, @08:35PM (2 children)

              by takyon (881) <reversethis-{gro ... s} {ta} {noykat}> on Wednesday December 05 2018, @08:35PM (#770264) Journal

              Lies, abuse, hunches... I'll keep you guessing. We don't collect IP addresses though.

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              • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 05 2018, @08:56PM

                by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 05 2018, @08:56PM (#770276)

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              • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 05 2018, @09:47PM

                by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 05 2018, @09:47PM (#770295)

                Ah.

  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Snotnose on Wednesday December 05 2018, @07:16PM (2 children)

    by Snotnose (1623) on Wednesday December 05 2018, @07:16PM (#770239)

    The 5G spec isn't finalized yet, I suspect they made it 2 packages because it's easier to update the modem than the baseband chip. When the spec is finalized the baseband will stay the same, only the modem will change. Next gen chip will have the modem in the baseband chip.

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    • (Score: 2) by MostCynical on Wednesday December 05 2018, @09:45PM (1 child)

      by MostCynical (2589) on Wednesday December 05 2018, @09:45PM (#770293) Journal

      So, once all chips can have a modem, they likely will have a modem.

      How do you turn it off?

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      • (Score: 2) by Snotnose on Thursday December 06 2018, @12:09AM

        by Snotnose (1623) on Thursday December 06 2018, @12:09AM (#770348)

        How do you turn it off?

        Why would you want to? Do you know what the modem does? It converts the analog signals to digital signals, and vice versa. No modem, no radio, useless cellphone.

        For years Qualcomm has put the modem on the baseband (not easy, digital and analog are hard to get working on a single chip). I remember the first few iterations, I'd get email along the lines of "this interferes with that? whooda thunk? shit, more long hours".

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 05 2018, @08:37PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 05 2018, @08:37PM (#770268)

    It's a carbon copy of LinkedIn but its free tier only supports strictly _local_ connections.

    While there are lots of potential clients where I live, none of them are yet to be found on the site.

    For me to connect to members in other cities, I have to fork over some cash.

    I Give It Two Thumbs Down.

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