Mark Zuckerberg's Biggest Problem: Internal Tensions At Facebook Are Boiling Over
“It’s the bunker mentality. These people have been under siege for 600 days now. They’re getting tired, getting cranky — the only survival strategy is to quit or fully buy in.”
In a year teeming with scandals and missteps, Facebook’s latest fiasco has inspired a clutter of leaks, finger pointing, and internal conversations about the future of the company and its leadership. And after more than a year of bad press, internal tensions are reaching a boiling point and are now spilling out into public view.
[ . . . . ] Two former employees said the spate of negative reports has cast a shadow over the company in recent weeks. Current and former employees describe a tense and, at times, hostile atmosphere inside the company, one in which both senior employees and even staunch loyalists are contemplating their futures.
People are “hoping for a Sundar or Dara moment,” one former senior Facebook employee told BuzzFeed News, referring to past leadership changes at Google and Uber in which founding employees stepped aside from top jobs.
[ . . . . ] “It’s really seeped in the last few years,” another added. “Election season is always the worst too, 2020 will be another shit show.” A third user added, “In this company, if you tell the truth, you are dead.”
As a non Facebook user, I had no idea.
(Score: 2) by Gaaark on Thursday December 06 2018, @01:13AM (5 children)
Wubbah...who knows...who cares.
--- Please remind me if I haven't been civil to you: I'm channeling MDC. ---Gaaark 2.0 ---
(Score: 4, Funny) by bob_super on Thursday December 06 2018, @02:01AM
Since it's facebook, the answer is as usual: Too many people, who really shouldn't.
(Score: 2) by richtopia on Thursday December 06 2018, @07:51AM (1 child)
I care, and I don't even use The Facebook. My 401k is in a generic target retirement date mutual fund, so I likely am a shareholder of the 6th largest company by market capitalization.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_public_corporations_by_market_capitalization#2018 [wikipedia.org]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 07 2018, @02:36AM
you don't know what's held as stock in your retirement plan? do you expect to retire? How do you expect to if you don't know what you're depending on?
Better find some and sell. Those execs are going to be leaping over the guard rail before long. And I hope someone has snipped the tethers in the golden parachute. Some of them deserve to go splat into the midst of the zombies they thought they controlled.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 06 2018, @03:20PM (1 child)
I was very similar to you until recently. I don't use Facebook, and don't care about it. Until our company implemented Workplace by Facebook. And now we all *HAVE* to use it. Resistance is a career limiting move. Yeah, I'm looking for a new employer because I'm not installing that malware on my phone, nor do I want to generally use Facebook at all.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 06 2018, @05:59PM
create your own job and quit looking for a new master.
(Score: 3, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 06 2018, @01:13AM
Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by fustakrakich on Thursday December 06 2018, @01:14AM (9 children)
Hey, welcome to politics! It would be convenient to single out the Americans, but the whole world going wacky right now.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 4, Interesting) by bzipitidoo on Thursday December 06 2018, @02:37AM (4 children)
Is this a national phenomenon, or a corporate one?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 06 2018, @03:25AM
The DNC did it and it was amazing. The RNC did it and it is 'concerning'. More like data is data and your opponents *do* know how to learn when you come up with something novel that works.
Could not have happened to a nicer bunch.
They are being punished by other narcissists. For not helping them out but helping other ones. For MONEY no less!
(Score: 2) by RandomFactor on Thursday December 06 2018, @03:28AM
It applies to users, why would we expect it wouldn't apply to employees?
It is stupid in a way. A significant and steadily growing portion of their audience has left them behind due to their behavior. Not particularly because they wanted to. They simply keep booting people.
There are advantages and disadvantages to poking around on the alternatives.
+ Most of the actual interesting content is cross posted anyway
+ Many people cross post everything they do either in support of the alternatives, friends that have been booted, or simple anticipation of getting booted themselves
- Major figures fear the stigma associated with the challengers by the mainstream networks
- More Crazy whackjobs of some types
+ Less Crazy whackjobs of other types
+ Tend to be less blasé about protecting your data
- Generally less mature and less feature rich
+ More focused on their core function, not trying to branch out all the time
+ MUTE/BLOCK type actions are actually far more effective at keeping the riffraff off your feeds
В «Правде» нет известий, в «Известиях» нет правды
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 06 2018, @08:24AM
Yes.
(Score: 2, Informative) by fustakrakich on Thursday December 06 2018, @08:45AM
National, corporate, a distinction without a difference.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2, Interesting) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Thursday December 06 2018, @09:04AM (3 children)
We were even awarded medals when we killed them the very most effectively.
There weren't enough people killing Fascists in Spain, so volunteers came round from all over so as to help those outnumbered Spaniards who preferred to kill fascists than to be killed themselves. The American cadre was denoted as the Lincoln Brigade.
One Fascists is widely regarded as having committed suicide but some claim he was spirited off to Argentina. Another Fascist faced a firing squad along with his lady, then their two bodies were hung by their ankles from the roof over a petrol station.
In my understanding, one other top Fascist surrendered to those who vaporized many of his countrymen, Fascist or no.
Fascism remained prominent on Argentina, but when the Missus toured no-longer-Fascist Italy, she lamented:
We'll be killing Fascists again sometime soon, but we're going to be in a World Of Hurt when we do so, because today's Fascists are possessed of far-more fearsome weaponry.
Yes I Have No Bananas. [gofundme.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 06 2018, @02:45PM (1 child)
That's beautiful!
(Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Thursday December 06 2018, @07:05PM
It's from the Broadway play by Andrew Lloyd Webber and Tim Rice, that was later made into a movie starring Madonna, who rang up the director or some such then _demanded_ to play the title role. The script seemed to have been written specifically for her.
Yes I Have No Bananas. [gofundme.com]
(Score: 2) by linkdude64 on Thursday December 06 2018, @07:48PM
Far better to kill a communist than a fascist. Oh, but wait, the communists intentions were better when they killed 4x the people that facists ever did, and in much more brutally efficient ways.
(Score: 4, Interesting) by legont on Thursday December 06 2018, @01:32AM (4 children)
The anonymous review site puts facebook at #7, above Google and Apple. Only LinedIn is higher among well known names. https://www.glassdoor.com/Award/Best-Places-to-Work-LST_KQ0,19.htm [glassdoor.com]
Something fishy is going on somewhere.
"Wealth is the relentless enemy of understanding" - John Kenneth Galbraith.
(Score: 3, Funny) by fyngyrz on Thursday December 06 2018, @02:16AM (2 children)
Of course. Anyone who's been waiting for tickets to a blockbuster first-run movie knows what LinedIn is.
(Score: 2) by RandomFactor on Thursday December 06 2018, @02:38AM
QueueQueue more.
В «Правде» нет известий, в «Известиях» нет правды
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 06 2018, @06:13AM
I thought it was short for Linux Edlin.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 06 2018, @03:25PM
The vocal minority is by definition very vocal and a minority. The majority seems to be silent and afraid of the minority, and that has been working very well for the minority lately. Which means they will keep pushing harder and making more noise. Until someone finally pushes back. Who is going to be that person?
(Score: 5, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 06 2018, @02:01AM (5 children)
When you introduce a company in the summary that many Soylentils may not be familiar with, you should indicate what they do. Example: "Facebook, an Internet website aimed at exfiltrating users personal data for marketing purposes..." Then we will have some idea of what you are writing about. Also, who is a Mark Zuckerburg?
(Score: 4, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 06 2018, @02:09AM (1 child)
A Dr. Seuss character, obviously. Just look at the name.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 06 2018, @02:28AM
Zuckerburg, Zoidberg, Zuckerburg, Zoidberg
mwoowooowoooowoooo
(Score: 5, Funny) by RandomFactor on Thursday December 06 2018, @02:41AM
The advice is good, but the example is terrible.
At least put in something that narrows it down some.
В «Правде» нет известий, в «Известиях» нет правды
(Score: 5, Funny) by suburbanitemediocrity on Thursday December 06 2018, @06:21AM
Isn't he the pink squishey guy in Futurama??
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 06 2018, @02:51PM
For marketing purposes? Is that what you call making a certain Mr. Trump US president?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 06 2018, @02:17AM
Like stabbing a peer in the back?
(Score: 5, Informative) by Runaway1956 on Thursday December 06 2018, @03:26AM
Really? Anyone who has read anything about Zuck's early attempts at datamining, while still in college, should have an idea. To summarize, some douche little fuck was snooping and prying into everyone's personal lives, while pretending to give his victims a public forum. In conversations, Zuck pretty bluntly stated that people gave him data, because they are stupid. With a few years experience to learn how to cater to people's baser desires, yeah - we should have had an idea.
Unfortunately, Zuck was right. People are stupid.
https://gawker.com/5636765/facebook-ceo-admits-to-calling-users-dumb-fucks [gawker.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 06 2018, @06:50AM (7 children)
Why does everyone pick on facebook when there are other companies just as bad???
(Score: 2, Touché) by pTamok on Thursday December 06 2018, @08:48AM (5 children)
Why does everyone pick on facebook when there are other companies just as bad??
That form of 'argument' is called whataboutery [wiktionary.org]. You will not pass your oratory exam with such poor skills in rhetoric.
(Score: 0, Disagree) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 06 2018, @02:20PM (2 children)
Complaining about "whataboutery" is called hypocrisy [merriam-webster.com] and is the defense of someone who has been proven to have no moral standards.
(Score: 1) by pTamok on Thursday December 06 2018, @09:34PM (1 child)
Moral standards are so passé. My public moral position is determined by whatever get the most 'likes'. Situational Ethics [wikipedia.org] for the win. It's not hypocrisy if no-one finds out.
(Score: 1) by pTamok on Thursday December 06 2018, @09:42PM
Sigh, that should have been passée, as morality is feminine in French. Grammatical standards are, of course, absolute, and brook no alteration. There is no room for descriptivists in L’Académie française [wikipedia.org].
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Thursday December 06 2018, @07:15PM
But what about if you use some other type of fallacy?
To transfer files: right-click on file, pick Copy. Unplug mouse, plug mouse into other computer. Right-click, paste.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 07 2018, @02:40AM
No, this is properly calling a douche a douche.
If we all had to stop and identify every object we saw because someone on the internet was paid to ask us what about something else and something other than that too, we wouldn't be arguing, we just woudln't get anything done.
I believe we can properly dismantle facebook and then move on to the other businesses and dismantle them, too. I'm all for small government and limited personally identfiable information harvesting by both government and companies.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 06 2018, @08:25PM
Because we gotta start somewhere...?
(Score: 3, Informative) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Thursday December 06 2018, @08:56AM
But I must admit I shed a Crocodile Tear or two whenever I contemplate Sheryl or Zuck getting subpoenaed by a Congressional Committee.
The Right-vs-Left Troll Fiesta gets quite a lot more hateful than most people would at first expect.
In other news, I just had a big bowl of Apple Sauce.
It was good.
Yes I Have No Bananas. [gofundme.com]
(Score: 4, Funny) by rigrig on Thursday December 06 2018, @09:47AM (1 child)
Contestants: a vegan, someone who isn't on Facebook and someone who doesn't own a TV.
Winner is the one who can refrain from mentioning it the longest.
No one remembers the singer.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by bob_super on Thursday December 06 2018, @05:59PM
Easy: The Vegan will tell you about the great healthy recipes and or activist article linked on his/her FB, triggering the no-FB ...
The only chance the no-TV has of losing is if someone starts talking about that episode/game last night, but if you have a vegan in the room, there no way the topic can get there.
To balance the competition you need to have a TV in the room, showing a program that keeps flashing twitter hash tags or comments.
(Score: 2) by ilsa on Thursday December 06 2018, @11:40PM
https://www.theverge.com/2013/9/5/4694324/biophysicist-uses-proteins-to-create-chromochord [theverge.com]
Perfect for this situation. I hope the entire company tears itself apart and the employees resort to cannibalism. And that's still too good for the likes of them.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 07 2018, @06:01AM
Boycott, divest, sanction. – Just say no.