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In July of 1316, a priest with a hankering for fresh apples sneaked into a walled garden in the Cripplegate area of London to help himself to the fruits therein. The gardener caught him in the act, and the priest brutally stabbed him to death with a knife—hardly godly behavior, but this was the Middle Ages. A religious occupation was no guarantee of moral standing.
That's just one of the true-crime gems to be found in a new interactive digital "murder map" of London compiled by University of Cambridge criminologist Manuel Eisner. Drawing on data catalogued in the city Coroners' Rolls, the map shows the approximate location of 142 homicide cases in late medieval London. The map launched to the public in late November on the website for the university's Violence Research Center, and be forewarned—it's extremely addictive. You could easily lose yourself down the rabbit hole of medieval murder for hours, filtering the killings by year, choice of weapon, and location. (It works best with Google Chrome.)
"The events described in the Coroners' Rolls show weapons were never very far away, male honor had to be protected, and conflicts easily got out of hand," said Eisner, who embarked on the project to create an accessible resource for the public to explore the historical records. "They give us a detailed picture of how homicide was embedded in the rhythms of urban medieval life."
[...] The greatest risk of violent death in London was on weekends (especially Sundays), between early evening and the first few hours after curfew.
[...] As Eisner notes, "Sunday was the day when people had the time to engage in social activities—drinking and playing games that would occasionally trigger frictions leading to assault." Mondays were the second most likely day for homicides, perhaps because frictions spilled over from the weekend.
(Score: 2) by Bot on Sunday January 06 2019, @11:08PM (17 children)
If it "works best with chrome" I will leave it alone.
Anyway the middle ages may look as dark as you care to paint them, yet the nets to prevent suicidal people to jump off buildings, or just to stay in London, the school dorm windows unable to fully open for the same reason do not bode well for these enlightened times. Especially if you factor in the potential brought by tech advancements.
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(Score: 2, Informative) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday January 06 2019, @11:35PM (11 children)
You're the one who thinks all of reality is basically Yahweh's virtual machine and that might makes right, so you have no standing to talk here. Shut up, moral nihilist.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 07 2019, @12:42AM (4 children)
You hate men so much that you chopped off your own dick and pretend to be a woman. That's way more insane than believing in a hypothetical unproveable deity.
(Score: 2, Informative) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday January 07 2019, @01:34AM (3 children)
Excuse me? Do you want a bloody pad in the mail or something? Sorry if I'm mean and nasty and not a fragile flower like you think women should be, but I'm womyn-born-womyn as they say. Are you thinking of Kurenai, who I've been arguing with a whole bunch and who *is* our resident transwoman?
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 07 2019, @02:19AM (2 children)
Tranmisogyny right here!
(Score: 1, Flamebait) by Mykl on Monday January 07 2019, @04:55AM (1 child)
Um, actually, that should be Transphobia. Your misrepresentation is hateful and highly insulting to misogynists. Oh, and you are also literally Hitler.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 08 2019, @09:15AM
Correct, "Trans-miso-gyny" would be trans hating women, where what we want is women hating trans-um-persons. So you meant to say "miso-transgyny" , which would be the hatred of ground fermented soybeans and persons who have transitioned to gyny, or female. Soybeans aside, and do NOT get me started on natto, why would anyone be particularly upset by gender transitions of one particular direction? Female to male, no problem? But male to female, and you picked them up on the street where they were trafficked to, um, do something to your pathetic excuse for genitalia?? Gag, but only because imagining your pathetic genitalia. Why the tenticles? Seriously, is that necessary? So get the terminology right, and you will be less prone to having adventure, sexual adventures, of which you do not approve. God sucks my cock. What does he do for you?
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 07 2019, @12:48AM (2 children)
How's the hell dimension working out for you?
(Score: 3, Informative) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday January 07 2019, @01:32AM (1 child)
Works fine for me. Everyone who deserves to "go" "there" (again; not a dimension or a place, a state of mind) does, for exactly as long as they deserve.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 07 2019, @02:14AM
Why would you do that to yourself?
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 07 2019, @02:24AM (1 child)
laughable [youtube.com]
(Score: 2, Informative) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday January 07 2019, @12:47PM
Divine Command Theory is moral nihilism. I have walked him through why this is the case, step by step, at least twice, and his replies always boil down to "Yahweh owns reality so he can do whatever he wants."
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by Bot on Friday January 11 2019, @01:24PM
> You're the one who thinks all of reality is basically Yahweh's virtual machine
That is not an opinion, it is a matter of definitions, a tautology proving nothing.
It's like saying the superclass of A is the class for which A is a subclass, a definition stemming from the fact that you start looking at an incomplete program listing, you see classes defining subclasses, and you legitimately wonder whether the main class is a subclass itself.
The usefulness of that definition is that lets you reason about the most detached relationship between a knowable subclass and a knowable class instead of doing like philosophers throwing statements in the black hole of the supernatural, where no logic system can either be defined. Of course this works only to disprove things, not prove things. If A=>B is NOT valid in the VM examples, then it is not universally valid, so whoever reasons using A=>B in the context of the supernatural makes 2 fundamental errors, a not universally valid implication in a context where the logic system we are used to is not necessarily defined.
How you get to my supposed moral nihilism from here is beyond my processing abilities, it has something to do with the absurd of not being able to disprove the 'god is always acting for the best possible eventual outcome of the universe', but you probably should focus on the inability to judge more than the inability to set moral standards compatible with religion and atheism which is quite easier:
Bad=darkness=striving for the single welfare ignoring the others
Good=life=light=striving for the welfare of life as a process of which all 'creatures' are agents
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(Score: 3, Insightful) by PartTimeZombie on Monday January 07 2019, @12:03AM (3 children)
That makes even less sense than your usual nonsense.
Are you arguing that the people of London are prone to suicide? Or maybe just the schoolkids?
Either way, it's obvious you've never been there, and in fact know nothing of the place.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 07 2019, @02:32AM (1 child)
They have knife control and it's it's working... [standard.co.uk] oh... wait!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 07 2019, @12:37PM
Savages. Thank God we don't have a lot of knife crime here in the US.
(Score: 2) by Bot on Friday January 11 2019, @01:28PM
> Either way, it's obvious you've never been there
First time in 1985, last time around 2008.
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(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Monday January 07 2019, @12:32PM
There are windows in modern buildings that open? I sure don't see very many of them. Private homes, sure, but not in public buildings like schools, the VA, banks, hospitals, Federal buildings - hmmmm - maybe jails? Nope - the prison that I build had a small number of windows that opened, mostly sliding sideways. The dispensary, some of the holding cells, hmmm . . . library I think . . . that seems to be about it.
(Score: 1) by Sulla on Sunday January 06 2019, @11:20PM (17 children)
More like self-defence map
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Famine_of_1315%E2%80%9317 [wikipedia.org]
Ceterum censeo Sinae esse delendam
(Score: 0, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 06 2019, @11:49PM (5 children)
~1300 BC:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Ice_Age [wikipedia.org]
~500 AD:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_weather_events_of_535%E2%80%93536 [wikipedia.org]
~300 BC:
???
~1100 BC:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_Bronze_Age_collapse [wikipedia.org]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_Dark_Ages [wikipedia.org]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 07 2019, @02:30AM (4 children)
Mods getting dumb? You dont see the connection between the apparent 800 year cycle of climate change and famine?
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Monday January 07 2019, @12:42PM
<sarcasm> Oh my! What is this, heresy? Don't you know - as all right-minded people know - that climate change is man-made? The earth has never seen such things as an increase in annual temperatures before!! </sarcasm>
(Score: 2, Interesting) by khallow on Monday January 07 2019, @05:47PM (2 children)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 07 2019, @10:07PM (1 child)
No I didnt. Those are the start dates of the three most notable periods of societal upheaval that have been linked to climate:
I didn't know about yours, but yea that should be included. Of course, the further back in time you go the less certain the dates, so all these dates should have error bars.
Also, these climate change won't noticeably (to us, millennia later) affect the societies of every region at the same time, so to go further we would have to account for that. The earlier data is mostly from Mesopotamia and north Africa, wile the later is more from Europe.
But I would say put +/- 300 years on all those dates for the true "start" is ok as a rough estimate.
Yes, but this is just the first step of science. We are organizing the data to look for a pattern that may require explanation. I think it looks interesting enough at this point to put more effort into cleaning the data up, estimating uncertainty around the dates, looking for something that may be relevant ~300BC, playing with the cycle period (perhaps the best fit is not constant but is monotonically getting longer each time), etc. Not yet ready to go to the next step.
Next step would be guessing at what could have caused it (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abductive_reasoning), after that is deducing predictions from our guess about what should happen in the future, then finally we collect the new data and compare to our predictions.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 07 2019, @11:15PM
Wow:
~ 2700 BC
Possible date associated with worldwide flood myths and world's oldest known organism is born:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_environmental_history [wikipedia.org]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methuselah_(tree) [wikipedia.org]
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 07 2019, @12:10AM (7 children)
When the Muslims finally took over England in 2022, average life expectancy for Christians dropped to 19.5 years.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 07 2019, @12:47AM (5 children)
But will the Muslims bring back Doctor Who, decapitate the Doctor, and have her regenerate into a Coloured man?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 07 2019, @12:51AM (4 children)
He'll marry his former incarnation, discipline her (and his other wives) with Quaranic beatings and lefties and feminists will declare it progressive. Inshallah!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 07 2019, @01:01AM (3 children)
Too late. The Doctor was strangling his companions 35 years ago. [youtube.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 07 2019, @01:09AM (2 children)
Nicola Bryant is too attractive to be in modern Who. Women who look like that should be wearing a burka because... feminism!
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 07 2019, @01:12AM (1 child)
In modern Who the women are ugly and the black companion is a pretty boy.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 07 2019, @01:16AM
But not trans?!? The show needs some real progressive values like jihad and murdering evil white males. Do away with the Valeyard, this is all progressive stuff.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 07 2019, @12:48PM
And, at the same time, the life expectancy of Muslims went UP to 19.75 years.
(Score: 2) by MostCynical on Monday January 07 2019, @01:16AM
Steal or starve.
A few hundred years later, they started sending them to Botany Bay.
"I guess once you start doubting, there's no end to it." -Batou, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
(Score: 1) by Ethanol-fueled on Monday January 07 2019, @01:51AM
You gotta hand it to those gore sites, they sure are good with humor and wordplay.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 07 2019, @04:43AM
From TFA, > A religious occupation was no guarantee of moral standing.
While it's not murder this time around, the current Catholic church scandal (sex w/minors) is continuing proof of this statement.
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 07 2019, @04:15AM (1 child)
Let's play the same game with Detroit, Chicago, and Baltimore.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 08 2019, @04:15AM
Too stimulating.
(Score: 2, Touché) by nitehawk214 on Monday January 07 2019, @04:40AM
Yeah, unlike today [nytimes.com].
"Don't you ever miss the days when you used to be nostalgic?" -Loiosh