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posted by martyb on Thursday January 10 2019, @07:26PM   Printer-friendly
from the littleBIG-storage dept.

Lexar's 1TB SD card is the first you can actually buy

SanDisk showed off a 1TB SD prototype a couple of years ago, but the final product never made it to market. Lexar's Professional 633x line of SDHC and SDXC UHS-I cards, however, is now listed for sale in capacities from 16GB all the way up to the flagship 1TB. That card claims read speeds of up to 95MB/s and write speeds of 70MB/s, though it's only rated as V30/U3, which guarantees sustained write performance of 30MB/s.

(Not microSD.)

Related: Half a Terabyte in Your Smartphone? Yup. That's Possible Now
SD Association Raises Max Capacity to 128 TB, Speed to 985 MB/s Using PCIe and NVMe


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Half a Terabyte in Your Smartphone? Yup. That's Possible Now 29 comments

Here's a challenge: do you reckon you can fill half-a-terabyte of memory using only a smartphone?

For some people, we're sure, the answer will be along the lines of “hold my beer while I set my camera to HDR mode and snap some selfies”. So the good news is that from February, you'll be able to lay out the readies on a 512 GB microSDXC card from Integral Memory.

At a transfer rate of 80 megabytes per second, you'd need more than an hour and a half to transfer a full card's worth of data; last year's 400 GB monster from SanDisk (no longer the world's biggest little memory card) still has the edge there, claiming a 100 MB/second transfer rate.

Integral's 512GB microSDXC V10, UHS-I U1 card is fast enough to meet V10 (Video speed class 10) for capturing full HD video.

Integral has put up a web page and a Spec sheet (pdf) for it.

Now we can set them up as media hubs for all.


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SD Association Raises Max Capacity to 128 TB, Speed to 985 MB/s Using PCIe and NVMe 24 comments

Version 7.0 of the SD standard finally raises the storage limit to above 2 TB, which was being rapidly approached by both full size SD cards (1 TB) and microSD cards (512 GB). It also adds an SD Express mode, which can raise speeds up to 985 MB/s, from a previous limit of 624 MB/s:

Soon you will be able to purchase new SD cards with the SD Version 7.0 specification. The new specification supports up to 985MB/s of throughput, which comes courtesy of PCIe and NVMe interfaces, and up to 128TB of capacity. That's quite the jump over the current 2TB limit.

985MB/s of throughput for a simple SD card may seem ludicrous, but higher-resolution video, VR, automotive use-cases, and IoT applications are steadily encroaching upon the performance limits of today's products.

[...] The specification has reserved space for new pins for future use, so it also provides room for forward progress (PDF). The specification also accommodates up to 1.8W of power consumption, which will help boost performance. The NVMe 1.3 protocol also brings several new features to SD cards, like Host Memory Buffer (HMB), which sets aside a small portion of system memory to boost performance, and Multi-Queue support, which improves performance during simultaneous file transfers.

Press release. Also at PetaPixel.

Previously: Western Digital Demos SD Card Using PCIe Gen 3 x1 Interface for 880 MB/s Read Speed


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SD Express (up to 985 MB/s) Controllers Showcased at Computex 2 comments

SD Express will allow SD cards to reach read/write speeds of up to 985 MB/s. Now controllers for the standard are starting to appear:

Last year the SD Association published its Secure Digital 7.0 standard that defines SD Express cards. At this year's Computex, Realtek demonstrated one of the industry's first SD Express controllers for appropriate card readers. The RTS5261 chip already exists in silicon, so it is a matter of time before it is used for actual products.

[...] Realtek's RTS5261 supports everything mandated by the SD 7.0 specification and connects to hosts using a PCIe 3.0 interface. The controller can work with SDUC cards featuring capacities of up to 128 TB at sequential read/write speeds of up to 985 MB/s. Actual prototypes of SD Express cards from Western Digital/SanDisk seem to be slightly slower than that, yet still considerably faster when compared to existing SD UHS-II cards.

SD 7.1 extended Express speeds to microSD cards. Phison showed off a controller for capacities up to 512 GB:

Phison's PS5017 controller is compliant with the SD 7.1 specification, so it can be used both for SD Express and microSD Express cards. The chip supports various types of 3D TLC and 3D QLC NAND memory featuring ONFI or Toggle 2.0 interfaces, but total capacity is limited to 512 GB for some reason. Performance wise, the controller promises up to 900 MB/s sequential read speed as well as up to 500 MB/s sequential write speed, which is good enough considering types of memory that it will be used with.

It's only a matter of time before capacities hit 2 TB and above, and higher sustained read/write speeds would be appreciated.

Related: Western Digital Demos SD Card Using PCIe Gen 3 x1 Interface for 880 MB/s Read Speed
SD Association Raises Max Capacity to 128 TB, Speed to 985 MB/s Using PCIe and NVMe
Lexar Beats Others to Market with a 1 TB SD Card
Micron and SanDisk (Western Digital) Announce 1 TB MicroSD Cards (available)


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  • (Score: 2) by ikanreed on Thursday January 10 2019, @07:31PM (6 children)

    by ikanreed (3164) Subscriber Badge on Thursday January 10 2019, @07:31PM (#784628) Journal

    How I can't store 120 dvds on my cell phone, and how completely unreasonable that is

    • (Score: 2) by takyon on Thursday January 10 2019, @07:40PM (3 children)

      by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Thursday January 10 2019, @07:40PM (#784632) Journal

      But it's only 8-10 4K Blu-rays, boooooo.

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      • (Score: 2) by ikanreed on Thursday January 10 2019, @07:57PM (1 child)

        by ikanreed (3164) Subscriber Badge on Thursday January 10 2019, @07:57PM (#784638) Journal

        Man, I can barely see the difference between 720p and 1080p on a huge screen. I don't know who the target audience for 4k is, besides maybe VR.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 10 2019, @08:04PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 10 2019, @08:04PM (#784643)

          The six million dollar man with his bionic eye.

      • (Score: 2) by bob_super on Thursday January 10 2019, @08:09PM

        by bob_super (1357) on Thursday January 10 2019, @08:09PM (#784647)

        Do you really need more than 10 4K porn movies in your change pocket at once? Given the weight, you can carry more than one card, then.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 10 2019, @08:48PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 10 2019, @08:48PM (#784663)

      SD nota microSD

    • (Score: 2) by linkdude64 on Friday January 11 2019, @01:45AM

      by linkdude64 (5482) on Friday January 11 2019, @01:45AM (#784785)

      My unit of storage measurement is in .mp3s. What's the conversion?

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 10 2019, @08:01PM (15 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 10 2019, @08:01PM (#784642)

    1e12 written at 3e7/s in a blink of an eye, ~35k seconds long, just a held breath of 9.7hrs, or maybe, if they deliver on 70mb/s 4.2 hrs to write.

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by bob_super on Thursday January 10 2019, @08:07PM (14 children)

      by bob_super (1357) on Thursday January 10 2019, @08:07PM (#784645)

      I'm too lazy to do the math of how long the same amount of data would take to write on 3.5 inch floppies, and the size of the truck(s) required to carry those floppies to their destination.
      "Read error in floppy #153497, Retry/Abort/Fail?"

      Them kids have no clue how good they have it these days.

      • (Score: 3, Informative) by bzipitidoo on Thursday January 10 2019, @09:02PM (13 children)

        by bzipitidoo (4388) on Thursday January 10 2019, @09:02PM (#784666) Journal

        Many years ago, one of my nuttier relatives, who is deep into fringe Christianity, and thinks she is a prophet, said that there was a 6 story building in Belgium, with 6 rooms on each floor, and 6 filing cabinets in each room (and I wondered if there were 6 drawers in each filing cabinet), in which all the personal information about everyone was being collected. Exactly what personal info this was, wasn't clear, but it sounded like name, address, phone number, date of birth, marriages, parents, and children. Pretty stodgy stuff. Apparently, DNA was not included. When this was accomplished, it would somehow cause the world to end.

        I laughed, and informed her that they didn't need no 6 story building for that. A stack of CDs that one person could carry around was enough room. She got this shocked and horrified look on her face. Seems that it's all too easy for those conspiracy theorists to fall way behind.

        Now it sounds like one of these new SD cards can do that job.

        Anyway, at 1.44M per floppy, you'd need 750k to 800k floppies to hold a terabyte of data. Don't think that'll fit in one station wagon.

        • (Score: 3, Funny) by PartTimeZombie on Thursday January 10 2019, @10:21PM (11 children)

          by PartTimeZombie (4827) on Thursday January 10 2019, @10:21PM (#784692)

          ...one of my nuttier relatives, who is deep into fringe Christianity, and thinks she is a prophet...

          Seriously? That can't be true, can it?

          Has she ever had any sort of psychiatric treatment?

          I just ask because when I was a kid, my Dad worked at a psychiatric hospital, and there two inmates who thought they were Jesus Christ.

          Needless to say, they did not get on. Turning the other cheek was not part of their teaching from what I remember.

          • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday January 10 2019, @11:06PM (6 children)

            by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Thursday January 10 2019, @11:06PM (#784711) Journal

            This may be a case of temporal lobe epilepsy. My maternal grandmother had it really, really bad, and she was more Catholic than the Pope, as my mother put it. Like, to the point that right before dementia and cancer took her, she told my mother to her face that "if you don't become a better Catholic, you won't be in heaven with me." And this is after my mother (and myself...) had been caring for her in her home for the better part of 5 years.

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            • (Score: 2) by PartTimeZombie on Thursday January 10 2019, @11:53PM (5 children)

              by PartTimeZombie (4827) on Thursday January 10 2019, @11:53PM (#784736)

              Yeah, well you were lucky she didn't just have done with it, declare you a heretic [wikipedia.org] and get a really good fire going in the back yard.

              I mean, you're probably one of those people who would like to read the Bible in your native language, instead of Latin, like God intended.

              • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday January 11 2019, @12:13AM (3 children)

                by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Friday January 11 2019, @12:13AM (#784744) Journal

                Yeah, she was not a fan of Vatican II, and let us know about it in detail on a few occasions. And yes, little 13 year old me did ask "so you know enough Latin for the old Roman rite then?" and got promptly grounded for sassing my grandmother.

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                I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
                • (Score: 2) by PartTimeZombie on Friday January 11 2019, @12:43AM

                  by PartTimeZombie (4827) on Friday January 11 2019, @12:43AM (#784749)

                  I know several Catholics that are still not totally on board with Vatican II.

                  They express their displeasure by going to Mass at a local church where the priest holds the service in Latin once a month or so.

                  I heard through the grapevine that the bishop told him to tone it down a bit, and my wife went once just to see what the fuss was all about.

                  She described the congregation as those sorts of people who have themselves nailed to a cross come Easter.

                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 13 2019, @04:47AM (1 child)

                  by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 13 2019, @04:47AM (#785793)

                  There is actually a problem with the V2 mass, namely that the Quo Primum issues an anathema against its authors. And technically, the pope who did that foresaw the problems of a rite that is trying to... well I don't know what.

                  The mass is in Latin. So what, even in your native language we are not going to comprehend the full meaning of what is said.
                  The priest has his back to the people in the old Mass. So what, what's on the other side? the consecrated species maybe? oops.

                  In short, the V2 to me seems the initiator of a fall into chaos, more than a reaction to solve problems. From the fruits you tell the tree.

                  • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday January 14 2019, @12:36AM

                    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Monday January 14 2019, @12:36AM (#786140) Journal

                    Grandma, is that you? You haven't reincarnated yet?

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              • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 11 2019, @02:24PM

                by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 11 2019, @02:24PM (#785030)

                If God had meant it to be in a language other than Latin, he would have written it in a language other than Latin.

                </sarcasm>

          • (Score: 3, Interesting) by bzipitidoo on Thursday January 10 2019, @11:49PM (2 children)

            by bzipitidoo (4388) on Thursday January 10 2019, @11:49PM (#784732) Journal

            Oh yes, it's true. She never had any treatment that I know of, no. I think it very possible it could have helped her. But despite her wacky thinking, she was able to function in society well enough to get by, and stay out of the mental institutions. Actually even better than that. In a lot of ways, she's like the typical evangelical con artist who doesn't know he's a con artist. Don't think she ever tried to claim that she was the 2nd coming of Jesus Christ, or that might have been enough to persuade everyone to put her away. No odd behaviors or anything else that would immediately mark her as nuts. Had to hear her talk for a bit to learn that she was cuckoo. She didn't find Jesus until adulthood. Before that, she wasn't so nuts, though she did have a tendency to go overboard on things.

            She had a teaching job in the public school system until she was fired for trying to "teach the controversy". She's an ordained reverend. I have no idea what sect. She also ran an alternative health business, which in addition to dubious drugs, included faith healing. One of the craziest of her stunts (that I heard of) was the application of faith healing to ... a lawn mower! She was also very happy and proud that she once made it into Business Week. They used a photo of her as an example of the sort of people who peddle dubious drugs for this alternative health company. That the article was extremely critical of the business, pointing out that she was basically a fraud, did not seem to matter to her in the slightest. Seems there were enough credulous religious supplicants and sick people to support her after she lost the teaching job. Still, when she visited the family, she'd come in shabby clothes and see her mother first. Her mother would be embarrassed and hastily take her shopping to buy some new clothes for her to put on so the rest of the family wouldn't see her looking so ragged.

            Tragic, really. She's actually pretty smart. Baffling how she can be so stupid about reality, or more like, willfully blind. If a mind is a terrible thing to waste, she did it and how.

            For those who think they're Jesus, I guess this town, heck this whole world, ain't big enough for more than one Jesus.

            • (Score: 2) by PartTimeZombie on Thursday January 10 2019, @11:56PM (1 child)

              by PartTimeZombie (4827) on Thursday January 10 2019, @11:56PM (#784737)

              Thanks for that bzipitidoo. People's family stories are really interesting, and often make mine look positively normal.

          • (Score: 2) by bob_super on Friday January 11 2019, @01:38AM

            by bob_super (1357) on Friday January 11 2019, @01:38AM (#784782)

            > there two inmates who thought they were Jesus Christ.

            "Two men say they're Jesus, one of them must be wrong"
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w1j2_UJY6c [youtube.com]

        • (Score: 1) by nitehawk214 on Friday January 11 2019, @02:00PM

          by nitehawk214 (1304) on Friday January 11 2019, @02:00PM (#785026)

          Get ready for a large file transfer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEUKUvEU1N8 [youtube.com]

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 10 2019, @08:13PM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 10 2019, @08:13PM (#784651)

    You rushed out, broke the piggy bank, and dragged home this 1TB SD card.
    Inserts into device (camera / drivecam / whatever).
    And then you discover that device tops out at 32GB or 64GB.

    The makers of gadgetery should be held liable in court for this.
    It is just storage. It should work like D:"hey, here's a file" S:"fine" D:"Ok, here's a file" S:"I'm full" D:"Oh, card full error"
    because a lot of the time it is more D:"here's a file" S:"ok" D:"I'm full, blame it on the card"

    • (Score: 2) by bob_super on Thursday January 10 2019, @09:17PM

      by bob_super (1357) on Thursday January 10 2019, @09:17PM (#784670)

      Those darn engineers and their addressing optimizations ... Everything should be at least 128b, I say !

    • (Score: 2) by takyon on Thursday January 10 2019, @10:47PM

      by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Thursday January 10 2019, @10:47PM (#784700) Journal

      Well, it's not that simple, is it?

      And if you get a 4 to 128 TB card in the future, you'll need a new device in order to read all of that memory.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 11 2019, @01:03AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 11 2019, @01:03AM (#784769)

      yeah, well, the sdhc spec has a line in it that says "a card shall not report a capacity larger than 64gb", so they're just following the spec to which they were designed.

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