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posted by Fnord666 on Monday January 14 2019, @06:24AM   Printer-friendly
from the pickled-tink dept.

Submitted via IRC for Bytram

Turkey's magical hangover cure

In an unassuming storefront tucked away on a bustling Istanbul street, an older man was assembling a vividly colourful package of pickles. Drawing from buckets of cauliflower, beetroot, plums and peppers, he mixed them into a plump bundle inside a sturdy, clear plastic bag and sealed them in a pool of their own juices.

Adem Altun, 64, is a third-generation pickle man who has practiced his craft since he was a boy. He operates the original location of Pelit Turşuları in Istanbul’s Kurtuluş neighbourhood, with branches in different pockets of the city. It’s one of a number of classic pickle shops in the city that adhere to decades-old techniques passed down from generation to generation.

“For us, a meal without pickles is not complete. There are pickles on every table. Sometimes this drops in the summer because pickles prefer the cold,” Altun said.

But I wasn’t there to learn about pickles, or to pick up an assorted mix for the dinner table. I’d come to his shop – conveniently located a few blocks away from my apartment – for a different purpose: I’d drunk a little too much the previous night, and a glass of pickle juice is famed as a quick, tasty and natural cure for even the fiercest of headaches.

“In terms of minerals it is very rich,” Altun said, offering an explanation as he served me a glass.   


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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by NotSanguine on Monday January 14 2019, @06:56AM (26 children)

    by NotSanguine (285) <NotSanguineNO@SPAMSoylentNews.Org> on Monday January 14 2019, @06:56AM (#786327) Homepage Journal

    Is not to get a hangover at all.

    You can do this one of two ways:
    The first is a three step thing:
    1. Drink lots of water as well as electrolytes before going to bed
    2. [Optional] Take a multivitamin
    3. Don't go to sleep while you're still really drunk

    The second method:
    1. Keep drinking
    You can't get a hangover while you're still drunk.

    I suppose pickle juice has electrolytes, but I can think of many other beverages that also have them and are significantly tastier.

    --
    No, no, you're not thinking; you're just being logical. --Niels Bohr
    • (Score: 2) by NotSanguine on Monday January 14 2019, @06:59AM (9 children)

      by NotSanguine (285) <NotSanguineNO@SPAMSoylentNews.Org> on Monday January 14 2019, @06:59AM (#786329) Homepage Journal

      Then again, there's nothing wrong with pickles or pickle juice. If you're wondering where you might get that in the US:

      Half-done: This is the best way to eat a kosher dill -- when it's still
      crunchy, light green, yet full of garlic flavor. The difference
      between this and the typical soggy dark green cucumber corpse is like
      the the difference between life and death.
                      You may find it difficult to find a good half-done kosher dill
      there in Seattle, so what you should do is take a cab out to the
      airport, fly to New York, take the JFK Express to Jay Street-Borough
      Hall, transfer to an uptown F, get off at East Broadway, walk north on
      Essex (along the park), make your first left onto Hester Street, walk
      about fifteen steps, turn ninety degrees left, and stop. Say to the
      man, "Let me have a nice half-done."
                      Worth the trouble, wasn't it?

                                      -- Arthur Naiman, "Every Goy's Guide to Yiddish"

      --
      No, no, you're not thinking; you're just being logical. --Niels Bohr
      • (Score: 3, Funny) by FatPhil on Monday January 14 2019, @09:45AM (8 children)

        by FatPhil (863) <pc-soylentNO@SPAMasdf.fi> on Monday January 14 2019, @09:45AM (#786387) Homepage
        > kosher dill

        I find this a hilarious concept - do you have to chop the end off and drain all the brine out before eating it, lest some imaginary mass-murderer gets the hump with you and sentences you to eternal torture for a dietary slip-up?
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        • (Score: 4, Informative) by NotSanguine on Monday January 14 2019, @12:11PM (7 children)

          by NotSanguine (285) <NotSanguineNO@SPAMSoylentNews.Org> on Monday January 14 2019, @12:11PM (#786416) Homepage Journal

          You'll have to ask Arthur Naiman about that. :)

          Although, according to Wikipedia [wikipedia.org]:

          A "kosher" dill pickle is not necessarily kosher in the sense that it has been prepared in accordance with Jewish dietary law. Rather, it is a pickle made in the traditional manner of Jewish New York City pickle makers, with generous addition of garlic and dill to a natural salt brine.[7][8][9]

          In New York terminology, a "full-sour" kosher dill is one that has fully fermented, while a "half-sour", given a shorter stay in the brine, is still crisp and bright green.[10] Elsewhere, these pickles may sometimes be termed "old" and "new" dills.

          Dill pickles (not necessarily described as "kosher") have been served in New York City since at least 1899.

          Yes, I know you were making a funny, and yes, it was amusing, but you got me curious.

          And that's why you'll need to catch a flight out of SeaTac to get one. In another aside, the JFK Express no longer exists, so take the 'A' train to Jay Street/MetroTech (same station, but they changed the name) instead. Oh, and you're welcome.

          --
          No, no, you're not thinking; you're just being logical. --Niels Bohr
          • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Monday January 14 2019, @08:38PM (6 children)

            by FatPhil (863) <pc-soylentNO@SPAMasdf.fi> on Monday January 14 2019, @08:38PM (#786624) Homepage
            I'm already in Eastern Europe, thanks, we've had salty gherkins (and other soured vegetables) here since before any diaspora.
            --
            Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
            • (Score: 2) by NotSanguine on Monday January 14 2019, @09:48PM

              by NotSanguine (285) <NotSanguineNO@SPAMSoylentNews.Org> on Monday January 14 2019, @09:48PM (#786647) Homepage Journal

              I'm already in Eastern Europe, thanks, we've had salty gherkins (and other soured vegetables) here since before any diaspora.

              Oh, okay. So fly to Seattle first. then you'll be all set. :)

              [Yes, I'm being deliberately obtuse. It's fun, you should try it!]

              --
              No, no, you're not thinking; you're just being logical. --Niels Bohr
            • (Score: -1) by fakefuck39 on Monday January 14 2019, @10:11PM (4 children)

              by fakefuck39 (6620) on Monday January 14 2019, @10:11PM (#786659)

              yeah, no thanks polak. I'm not into sugar in my pickles. diaspora? of whom exactly? if you're in eastern europe, you are the diaspora in other countries. no one comes to eastern europe to live.

              and since you clearly haven't tried a new york half-sour, since you can't get a visa and the stuff they sell by you is fake, I'll tell you this: your "salty gherkins" are sugar and vinegar shit by comparison. and yes, I've been to your country - every country in europe actually.

              • (Score: 3, Informative) by FatPhil on Monday January 14 2019, @11:03PM (3 children)

                by FatPhil (863) <pc-soylentNO@SPAMasdf.fi> on Monday January 14 2019, @11:03PM (#786689) Homepage
                Great nick - it describes the sub-Minsky-level artificial intelligence clunking away inside your head nicely.

                I think I can see absolute demonstrable falsities in your post. I am unable to evaluate the truthiness of the final half of your final sentence, obviously, but given your reliability, I'd put money on it being a lie too.
                --
                Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
                • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by fakefuck39 on Wednesday January 16 2019, @04:55AM (2 children)

                  by fakefuck39 (6620) on Wednesday January 16 2019, @04:55AM (#787233)

                  You need to speak English, Russian, French, and Korean to understand my nickname buddy. The numbers are important too. It actually is a sentence saying the people commenting on the nickname can't get pussy and masturbate a lot.

                  you're not able to "evaluate" the truthfullness that people don't want to and don't migrate to the second-world shithole that is Eastern Europe? You're a moron.

                  • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Wednesday January 16 2019, @08:06AM (1 child)

                    by FatPhil (863) <pc-soylentNO@SPAMasdf.fi> on Wednesday January 16 2019, @08:06AM (#787285) Homepage
                    Jeebus, you're even too stupid to understand the word "final". Surprise level low, as you do have a reputation to maintain, it appears.
                    --
                    Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
                    • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by fakefuck39 on Wednesday January 16 2019, @09:56PM

                      by fakefuck39 (6620) on Wednesday January 16 2019, @09:56PM (#787593)

                      Oh, I understood it fine. I just enjoy annoying you, knowing you got a vein popping up in your fourhead right now. Thanks for the entertainment personal clown.

    • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Monday January 14 2019, @07:03AM (4 children)

      by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Monday January 14 2019, @07:03AM (#786330) Journal

      Brine pickled, not vinegar pickled - the later would complete with the result of acetaldehyde decomposition by the liver, thus prolonging the hangover.
      I find the taste of brine pickled juice quite tasty, gets its sourness from lactic acid.

      --
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
      • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Monday January 14 2019, @09:37AM (3 children)

        by FatPhil (863) <pc-soylentNO@SPAMasdf.fi> on Monday January 14 2019, @09:37AM (#786386) Homepage
        I've definitely over-drunk, but am 'blessed' with genes that give me internal organs that almost never churn out a hangover (I guess 3 times in the last 20 years, and those were extreme in every imaginable way). However, I've certainly appreciated the taste of gherkin brine in the morning, it's nothing to do with it being curative, it's simply because it contains a few fundamental components that you can detect in your mouth, and that we've evolved to seek out. Add a few herbs or spices for interest, and you've got a winner. I.e. it's not just because it's making you better, it's because it's intrinsically good. If I'm preparing a salad, and I've just finished the last gherkin in the pot, I'll often take a swig of the water before throwing it out. Marinated olives too, for the same reason.

        I will admit to occasionally finding the sweet vinegary liquor quite tempting too, it's not just the salty gherkins that do the job (however, I only ever buy the salty ones).
        --
        Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
        • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Monday January 14 2019, @10:03AM (2 children)

          by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Monday January 14 2019, @10:03AM (#786392) Journal

          (however, I only ever buy the salty ones).

          You're lucky. Shelf life and warm weather in Australia, and I need to scour the "continental deli"s for imported ones; if I find some, I can be sure it will be 3-4 weeks until the next ones.
          I tried pickling gherkins from the veggie patch in brine, but heck, I don't have an underground cellar to keep them under 8C. At the temperature during the gherkins season, they ferment like wine in 3-4 days and in a week everything is a terrible mess smelling bad.

          The closest thing I can get to pickled cabbage (which is not imported) in here is something pickled straight in a solution of lactic acid and salt - no bacteria, it will spoil on the shelf.

          --
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
          • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Monday January 14 2019, @08:32PM (1 child)

            by FatPhil (863) <pc-soylentNO@SPAMasdf.fi> on Monday January 14 2019, @08:32PM (#786618) Homepage
            Dare I say it, but you might have to turn your second beer fridge into a pickle fridge!
            --
            Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
            • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Monday January 14 2019, @10:52PM

              by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Monday January 14 2019, @10:52PM (#786679) Journal

              That's an idea. I might need an upgrade to the beer fridge.

              --
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
    • (Score: 4, Interesting) by Runaway1956 on Monday January 14 2019, @07:31AM (6 children)

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday January 14 2019, @07:31AM (#786339) Journal

      It definitely has electrolytes - but I disagree about the taste. First, I think pickle juice does taste good. Second, the more my body needs those electrolytes, the better it tastes. Take Gatorade, for instance. I really don't like the flavors. The best of them is Ice Blue or something like that. Normally, I don't like it much. The first half a bottle I drink on a hot summer day is forced down, because I don't like it. Couple hours later, I can gulp a bottle of the stuff down, and it tastes great, can't get enough of it.

      Another point for pickle juice is, it has different stuff in it than any of those sport drinks. Drink some of both, and they supplement each other.

      I think the best way to handle a hangover, is not to drink enough to get a hangover. I prefer to get a light buzz, then maintain that buzz, until I'm ready for bed. Drunk always seemed dumb to me, then it seemed outright stupid after I saw people beaten to a pulp, robbed, or worse, for no better reason than they were drunk and defenseless.

      • (Score: 0, Flamebait) by aristarchus on Monday January 14 2019, @09:06AM (5 children)

        by aristarchus (2645) on Monday January 14 2019, @09:06AM (#786371) Journal

        First, I think pickle juice does taste good.

        Oh, dear! I think we can all see where this is going.

        Second, the more my body needs those electrolytes, the better it tastes.

        OMG, the Runaway is drinking his own piss, er, I mean, electrolytes! It's like Brawando, it has electrolytes! And do you expect us to drink the stuff in the toilets?

        Explains so much about Runaway, stuff the Hillbilly and Hookworm, and peeling lead-based paints could not, or just barely could. Pickle Runaway!!! Now there is a chant I could get behind, or under, or into the heart of:
        What do halophytes do with the salt? [stackexchange.com]

        Those phantoms of Runaway's imagination, bugs on the side of the road, or halophobes hating on the salt.

        • (Score: 4, Touché) by Runaway1956 on Monday January 14 2019, @09:30AM (4 children)

          by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday January 14 2019, @09:30AM (#786383) Journal

          And do you expect us to drink the stuff in the toilets?

          No, Ari, we've been trying for years to break you of that habit.

          • (Score: 2) by aristarchus on Tuesday January 15 2019, @03:13AM (3 children)

            by aristarchus (2645) on Tuesday January 15 2019, @03:13AM (#786767) Journal

            Not sure if you got the reference, you incorrigible redneck, since you are living the movie instead of ever having seen it, except the central character was Army, so smarter than the average swabie. Idiocracy [imdb.com], once thought to be comedy and satire, but now we see it as prophecy. Brawndo has electrolytes! Camacho is President. Runaway sounds like a . . . Go away! 'Bating!

            • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday January 15 2019, @03:40AM (2 children)

              by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday January 15 2019, @03:40AM (#786779) Journal

              What you need to understand is, the movie is the dumbed-down version of several stories, written by several authors. You've heard of the Eloi and the Morlocks? I'm fairly sure that was the first version of the story.

              More, a number of us have been warning the world about the idiocracy for decades.

              • (Score: 2) by aristarchus on Tuesday January 15 2019, @05:47AM (1 child)

                by aristarchus (2645) on Tuesday January 15 2019, @05:47AM (#786803) Journal

                More, a number of us have been warning the world about the idiocracy by role playing it for decades.

                FTFY

                Let me guess, Runaway, you are Judge Buford J. Mulefucker [youtube.com] in the original film? I object that you interrupted me while I was watching "Ow, My Bawls!". Judge should be, all like, Muslins is bad and terrorist shit. Carry on, oh smartest person left on the planet as the result of a failed military experiment!

                    [Somehow, in the back of my mind, I think that Runaway may have been involved in something more like "Jacob's Ladder" [imdb.com], especially since he did mention exposure to the Hypno-Toad, and had dropped enough details for anyone to track him back from Texarkana. Do you know what happened after your unit was rotated out to the real world, Runaway? Can you remember? There is a Black Mirror episode [wikipedia.org], which you should not watch, about precisely this. The title comes from a post-WWII study by S.L.A. Marshall [wikipedia.org], who discovered that most men in combat did not take aim at the enemy, because, you know, killing is wrong. So during the Vietnam conflict, they discovered that while soldiers would not kill, even to save their own lives, they would kill to save their buddies. Thus small unit fire-squad cohesion was built into US Army doctrine. You might have missed this, being out of actual combat and messing about on ships. But on the other hand, Runaway could have been one of the early experimental subjects, who were primed with a virus, or operant conditioning, to accept Fox News indoctrination. Is it a coincidence that Fox News has been broadcast on US Military channels for the past decade or more? So, I am suggesting a bit more sympathy for Runaway1926. He may be a casualty of the great psycho-war of the Sixties, when Men Stared at Goats. [imdb.com] Or, Runaway is just a ignorant Polack Hillbilly Redneck (triple threat!). I leave it to Ockham's Razor to decide. Or, Russians. ]

                • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday January 15 2019, @02:58PM

                  by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday January 15 2019, @02:58PM (#786909) Journal

                  Oh, thanks for the reminder.

                  #Free{nick}_NOW!!!

                  I'm supposed to go down to the dungeon and feed {nick} this week. Do you think I should feed him early in the week, or later in the week?

    • (Score: 2) by Immerman on Monday January 14 2019, @03:23PM

      by Immerman (3985) on Monday January 14 2019, @03:23PM (#786451)

      >The second method:
      >1. Keep drinking
      >You can't get a hangover while you're still drunk.

      I have to disagree - I process alcohol fairly quickly, and the beginning of the hangover is one of my warning signs that I've probably overdone it and should get to sleep quickly so that I can sleep through the really unpleasant part.

      On the plus side, I've got to REALLY overdo it (or stay out really late) to still have a painful hangover by morning. Even the lingering head-full-of-cotton feeling is usually gone well before noon.

    • (Score: 2) by acid andy on Monday January 14 2019, @08:50PM (1 child)

      by acid andy (1683) on Monday January 14 2019, @08:50PM (#786628) Homepage Journal

      You can't get a hangover while you're still drunk.

      Yeah, hair of the dog that bit you. It also works when you are already hung over though, doesn't it?

      --
      If a cat has kittens, does a rat have rittens, a bat bittens and a mat mittens?
    • (Score: 2) by Gaaark on Monday January 14 2019, @09:53PM

      by Gaaark (41) on Monday January 14 2019, @09:53PM (#786651) Journal

      Yup! Drink lots of water while you're boozing and drink a glass before bed. You'll pee A LOT, but wake up happy you did.

      --
      --- Please remind me if I haven't been civil to you: I'm channeling MDC. ---Gaaark 2.0 ---
  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 14 2019, @07:16AM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 14 2019, @07:16AM (#786333)

    Yeah, a cure. Perhaps it would be even more effective diluted 100-1? So only some molecules with memories of pickles, and frojack, remained? Got to love science on the internets! I got aids from a vaccine for gayness, and I became gay from a vaccine for Polo and Horse members, and it was the immigrants that gave me a craving for Salsa, and La Vida Loca!! I swear! Save your self!

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 14 2019, @07:53AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 14 2019, @07:53AM (#786349)

      You forgot to login, realDonaldTrump!

      • (Score: 5, Insightful) by FatPhil on Monday January 14 2019, @09:27AM

        by FatPhil (863) <pc-soylentNO@SPAMasdf.fi> on Monday January 14 2019, @09:27AM (#786381) Homepage
        Woh, you're pretty deaf to writing styles - that's clearly our ari's writing, clear as day to me. (And RDT does chance style properly between his personae, and doesn't leak much at all. He's a method troll.)

        I guess ari's suffering pickle envy.
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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 14 2019, @12:16PM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 14 2019, @12:16PM (#786418)

    Istanbul is its slave name, its real name is Constantinople.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 14 2019, @10:54PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 14 2019, @10:54PM (#786681)

    Hitler has come to Turkey and Jehovah is his witness.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 15 2019, @01:17AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 15 2019, @01:17AM (#786733)

    No one ever tried the devil's submarine??
    Get a pint of beer and drop a shot of tabasco.
    Chunk it up and in a matter of minutes you can start all over again.
    If you have to drive back home you just need some fresh garlic and some luck

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