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posted by martyb on Wednesday January 16 2019, @01:04AM   Printer-friendly
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Washington, D.C. – Today, President Trump signed into law the Foundations for Evidence-Based Policymaking (FEBP) Act (H.R. 4174, S. 2046), which includes the Open, Public, Electronic and Necessary (OPEN) Government Data Act (Title II). The package passed Congress on Monday, December 31, 2018.

The OPEN Government Data Act requires all non-sensitive government data to be made available in open and machine-readable formats by default. It establishes Chief Data Officers (CDO) at federal agencies, as well as a CDO Council.

https://www.datacoalition.org/press-releases/president-signs-government-wide-open-data-bill/

OPEN Government Data Act passes.

The OPEN Government Data Act will ensure that the federal government releases valuable data sets, follows best practices in data management, and commits to making data available to the public in a non-proprietary and electronic format.

https://www.datainnovation.org/2019/01/open-government-data-act-signed-into-law-establishes-u-s-as-leader-in-open-data/

https://9to5mac.com/2019/01/15/open-government-data-act/


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  • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @01:12AM (6 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @01:12AM (#787151)

    Visualize subject.

    • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @01:15AM (5 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @01:15AM (#787153)

      Editors removed the more accurate title: https://soylentnews.org/submit.pl?op=viewsub&subid=31172 [soylentnews.org]

      • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @01:18AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @01:18AM (#787156)
      • (Score: 2) by RandomFactor on Wednesday January 16 2019, @01:40AM (3 children)

        by RandomFactor (3682) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday January 16 2019, @01:40AM (#787163) Journal

        Trump signs bill forcing government agencies to provide data to russian spies

        Admittedly, that does sound more like what I'll hear if I sit near the TV in the lunch room tomorrow :-p

        --
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        • (Score: 0, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @03:02AM (2 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @03:02AM (#787191)

          Our televised Pravda on however-many channels is just so hopeless, and I can't believe that people buy it.

          I pulled up my Pravda feed (Google News) today to check out the headlines. Yet again, a white woman went missing, and that was front page news.

          • (Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @03:17AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @03:17AM (#787197)

            Yeah, but she might have been raped! In the pussy! It's very important news.

          • (Score: 2) by RandomFactor on Wednesday January 16 2019, @03:54AM

            by RandomFactor (3682) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday January 16 2019, @03:54AM (#787211) Journal

            "There is no truth in Pravda and no news in Izvestia"

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  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @01:35AM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @01:35AM (#787162)

    Let's hope he can do the same for scientific journals (if that falls under his purview)

    • (Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @08:33AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @08:33AM (#787293)

      Sorry, but there aren't enough pictures in scientific journals for him to care about them.

      I hear his next target is Honest Information for Placemat Puzzle Adventures (HIPPA).

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @06:31PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @06:31PM (#787489)

        Good. So long as he doesn't touch HIPAA.

    • (Score: 2) by requerdanos on Wednesday January 16 2019, @07:20PM

      by requerdanos (5997) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday January 16 2019, @07:20PM (#787506) Journal

      Let's hope he can do the same for scientific journals

      Are you kidding? He wouldn't have signed *this* one if someone had told him about the "Evidence-based" thing in advance.

  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Rosco P. Coltrane on Wednesday January 16 2019, @01:42AM (70 children)

    by Rosco P. Coltrane (4757) on Wednesday January 16 2019, @01:42AM (#787165)

    This is Something Good [tm], yet it's been championed by Trump. I'm trying to find the catch but I can't find it. How strange...

    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @01:54AM (31 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @01:54AM (#787168)

      There is not one. Do not let others control your feelings.

      • (Score: 5, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @01:59AM (30 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @01:59AM (#787173)

        I'm pretty sure its normal human behavior to dislike lying criminals.

        • (Score: 0, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @02:23AM (14 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @02:23AM (#787178)

          I'm pretty sure you are being manipulated into thinking that.

          • (Score: 4, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @04:03AM (12 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @04:03AM (#787215)

            Haha, when he fired Comey it became pretty clear we have a criminal president, then we got everything that happened after. Not to mention We shall see once the investigation is finished, though I don't think the Trumpettes would be capable of accepting such a thing.

            Even though you're just a troll here is something to chew on.

            An analysis by USA Today published in June 2016 found that over the previous three decades, United States president Donald Trump and his businesses have been involved in 3,500 legal cases in U.S. federal courts and state court, an unprecedented number for a U.S. presidential candidate.[1] Of the 3,500 suits, Trump or one of his companies were plaintiffs in 1,900; defendants in 1,450; and bankruptcy, third party, or other in 150.[1] Trump was named in at least 169 suits in federal court.[2] Over 150 other cases were in the Seventeenth Judicial Circuit Court of Florida (covering Broward County, Florida) since 1983.[3] In about 500 cases, judges dismissed plaintiffs' claims against Trump. In hundreds more, cases ended with the available public record unclear about the resolution.[1] Where there was a clear resolution, Trump won 451 times, and lost 38.[4]

            The topics of the legal cases include contract disputes, defamation claims, and allegations of sexual harassment. Trump's companies have been involved in more than 100 tax disputes, and on "at least three dozen" occasions the New York State Department of Taxation and Finance has obtained tax liens against Trump properties for nonpayment of taxes.[1] On a number of occasions, Trump has threatened legal action but did not ultimately follow through.[5]

            Of Trump's involvement in the lawsuits, his lawyer Alan Garten said in 2015 that this was "a natural part of doing business in [the United States]",[5][6] and in the real estate industry, litigation to enforce contracts and resolve business disputes is indeed common.[5] Trump has, however, been involved in far more litigation than fellow real-estate magnates; the USA Today analysis in 2016 found that Trump had been involved in legal disputes more than Edward J. DeBartolo Jr., Donald Bren, Stephen M. Ross, Sam Zell, and Larry Silverstein combined.[1]

            Pretty terrible stats for the greatest businessman ever!

            • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @04:37AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @04:37AM (#787225)

              Go read the OIG report or something besides fake news. https://www.justice.gov/file/1071991/download [justice.gov]

            • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @05:15AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @05:15AM (#787240)

              Pretty terrible stats for the greatest businessman ever!

              It's perfectly normal. Some real estate owners sit on their property and collect rent. Other are actively buying, building, selling. Guess which ones will have more lawsuits? Each little thing in construction costs big bucks, and it's perfectly reasonable for a contractor to go to court instead of cutting 1280 holes in concrete slabs of a finished building that they neglected to make before, when it was easy. They can always argue that the drawing was fuzzy.

              Here is an interesting link [archdaily.com] on the subject.

            • (Score: 3, Informative) by Phoenix666 on Wednesday January 16 2019, @12:08PM (1 child)

              by Phoenix666 (552) on Wednesday January 16 2019, @12:08PM (#787349) Journal

              Somebody who thinks that being involved in lots of lawsuits in the real estate market in NYC has zero grasp of the realities of real estate in NYC. Really, zero. In NYC, real estate is the most fiercely contested business, where people sue each other all the time. Real estate interests drive NYC politics as well, so there's a hefty political dimension to all those lawsuits.

              If the proprietor of a mom & pop grocery store in Des Moines was involved in lots of lawsuits, then, yeah, there'd be something strange going on there.

              It would be awesome if haters would stop preying on the naivete of the public with this drivel.

              --
              Washington DC delenda est.
              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @05:09PM

                by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @05:09PM (#787447)

                lol sure thing buddly, pay no attention to the last part where he has more lawsuits than 5 other real estate moguls combined. Also do not look at the sex related ones. I am starting to see what your nick is all about.

            • (Score: 3, Interesting) by digitalaudiorock on Wednesday January 16 2019, @07:39PM (7 children)

              by digitalaudiorock (688) on Wednesday January 16 2019, @07:39PM (#787519) Journal

              For the real eye-openers about Trumps business dealings you need to look at things like partnerships with companies like Bayrock (Trump Soho)....companies that pretty clearly are just money laundering fronts for the Russian mob:

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dominick [wikipedia.org]
              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayrock_Group [wikipedia.org]
              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felix_Sater#Criminal_convictions_and_federal_cooperation [wikipedia.org]

              No need to question why...that's because major U.S. banks wanted no part of the guy. This is all shit that's been well known long before Mueller of any of this. I mean FFS. This is not normal shit for any businessman, let alone the POTUS.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @08:28PM (6 children)

                by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @08:28PM (#787538)

                Yeah, people have to be willfully ignorant to think Trump is not super fucking shady. Sure we have to wait for a criminal conviction in order to definitively say so, but at BEST the guy is a stupid fool used by criminals. That seems unlikely and is hardly much better for a POTUS.

                I am shocked by some of the supposedly rational users around here who go out of their way to defend Trump such as Phoenix666 in here. In my mind it increases the probability that a lot of the prolific users around here truly are shills trying to lay down some long term quality astro-turf.

                • (Score: 2) by digitalaudiorock on Wednesday January 16 2019, @11:34PM (5 children)

                  by digitalaudiorock (688) on Wednesday January 16 2019, @11:34PM (#787655) Journal

                  What's actually more astonishing is how quick so many are to ignore the way he's been spouting Kremlin propaganda...shit that nobody outside of the Kremlin would ever say. Especially that recent crap about how the Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan because of terrorism and was right to do so! I mean fuck me...Reagan has to be doing fucking back flips in his grave. Even scarier is that Trump never reads shit, so where is it that he's getting these talking points?

                  There are a LOT of folks here that are in the "what color is the sky where you live" camp.

                  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 17 2019, @02:54AM (4 children)

                    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 17 2019, @02:54AM (#787733)

                    he's been spouting Kremlin propaganda...shit that nobody outside of the Kremlin would ever say. Especially that recent crap about how the Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan because of terrorism and was right to do so!

                    Source?

                    • (Score: 2) by Pslytely Psycho on Thursday January 17 2019, @06:53AM (3 children)

                      by Pslytely Psycho (1218) on Thursday January 17 2019, @06:53AM (#787802)
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                      • (Score: 2) by digitalaudiorock on Thursday January 17 2019, @03:00PM (2 children)

                        by digitalaudiorock (688) on Thursday January 17 2019, @03:00PM (#787892) Journal

                        THANK you! Was just about to reply to this myself. Clearly AC is trying to prove my point about willful ignorance! That insane shit about Afghanistan is just one example too. All the anti-NATO crap and the bizarre statements about Montenegro were mind-boggling as well. Never mind the fact that Trump has just plain always been way up Putin's ass when the rest of the world knows the guy's pure fucking evil. Yes...Trump is the source indeed.

                        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 18 2019, @05:38AM (1 child)

                          by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 18 2019, @05:38AM (#788154)

                          Hmm, hadnt watched it before but just did. What is notable about this? He got the history of the ussr and afghanistan wrong?

                          I think youll find most people are just confused by your outrage at that.

                          • (Score: 2) by digitalaudiorock on Friday January 18 2019, @02:24PM

                            by digitalaudiorock (688) on Friday January 18 2019, @02:24PM (#788235) Journal

                            Hmm, hadnt watched it before but just did. What is notable about this? He got the history of the ussr and afghanistan wrong?

                            I think youll find most people are just confused by your outrage at that.

                            Seriously? That was a classic example of Soviet aggression and they were pretty much ready to exterminate everyone in the country to accomplish that goal. The ONLY people on planet earth framing that one as some sort of justified "war on terror" consist of the Putin, the Kremlin, and apparently Donald Trump. That's more than just getting "the history of the ussr and afghanistan wrong". Anyone who's not offended by that, and who doesn't question where he's getting those talking points is dangerously ignorant.

                            I mean fuck me! What does it take for this asshole to fall out of favor with everyone?

          • (Score: 2) by Nobuddy on Thursday January 17 2019, @05:58PM

            by Nobuddy (1626) on Thursday January 17 2019, @05:58PM (#787957)

            You are correct. All of Trumps lies have manipulated us in to thinking he is a liar. You got us.

        • (Score: 2) by TheFool on Wednesday January 16 2019, @03:57AM (6 children)

          by TheFool (7105) on Wednesday January 16 2019, @03:57AM (#787212)

          "Normal human behavior" isn't always good. Questioning it is the first step to escaping it.

          • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @04:08AM (4 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @04:08AM (#787218)

            That may be decent advice for some situations, but not in this case. Are you saying everyone SHOULD trust proven liars? People SHOULD trust someone who is very likely a criminal?

            Please Mr. Fool, enlighten us.

            • (Score: 3, Insightful) by TheFool on Wednesday January 16 2019, @05:02AM (3 children)

              by TheFool (7105) on Wednesday January 16 2019, @05:02AM (#787235)

              Mr. Coward, I am simply saying that proven liars can do good things on occasion. Trusting them to do good wouldn't be too bright, but denying that they could ever do any good isn't too bright either.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @08:27AM (1 child)

                by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @08:27AM (#787291)

                You are correct. Hell, even Hannibal Lecter was known for his marvelous dinner parties.

                • (Score: 0, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @07:23PM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @07:23PM (#787508)

                  That dish with the fava beans was excellent!

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @11:02AM

                by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @11:02AM (#787326)

                That's right; sometimes an evil person has to do some good to get something evil accomplished. Sometimes you just have to help that little old lady across the street, perhaps to get her out of the way to install someone to turn tricks at that corner.

          • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @09:42AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @09:42AM (#787313)

            A few people around here think that marrying your first cousin and raping your sister is normal.
            Questioning it can lead to death.

        • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @04:45AM (4 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @04:45AM (#787229)

          Wow informative?

          OK where is the link to him being convicted of a crime, which is the bar for calling someone criminal.

          Also, I hate Clintons for being lying rapists and murderers.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @05:12PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @05:12PM (#787448)

            Only information can travel through time. If I printed it out you would just say "fake news!" so we gots to wait for the feds.

          • (Score: 1) by bussdriver on Wednesday January 16 2019, @05:20PM

            by bussdriver (6876) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday January 16 2019, @05:20PM (#787458)

            1) That law has been in the works for YEARS; glad it didn't take a disaster to finally sneak it past... i don't have time, it's probably missing the best parts...

            2) Trump lost many court cases for violating the law; if you have an army of lawyers and a company you just do settlements and SHIFT and DILUTE blame and stall and threaten...

            Moffia Dons:
            A lot of mob bosses only get "caught" with extreme efforts and even then it's usually something minor like TAX Evasion... plus some convictions wouldn't hold for normal people; unless it's on tape, it's hard to get a jury or judge to have the same standard when somebody is clearly a mob boss with an army of lawyers and many loyal thugs taking the blame for "misunderstanding" or acting on their own for the organization. People clearly SEE it but getting past them trying to be intellectually honest is difficult; the result is a minor judgement bias.

            An army of selfish people pulled into the Trump trap end up working their hardest to save that Evil Forrest Gump because it's either to save their own ass or to try to exploit him some more. He is the perfect storm of stupid, crazy, and 6 of the 7 deadly sins... This level of dishonesty and disloyalty actually helps him like a clever mob boss; out of dumb luck! Even when you catch him on tape it doesn't show anything because nothing he says means anything (he only is forced into standing by a few things not because he really stands for them.) Mob bosses talk in vague terms; Trump tries but fails so he just takes the easy way out by lies constantly about everything big and small.

            Also, there is SO MUCH WRONG you get overwhelmed as to what to focus upon which makes even a simple case against him into a long complex never ending mess. The dysfunctional mess of his organizations end up shielding him even more and people are not really loyal, they just have to appear that way to him and the chaos keeps them busy too. Biggest House of Cards built by a single person, possibly ever... or it will be. It's not unlike a pyramid scheme; worst thing you can do is give them more people to use.

            FYI:
            ORGANIZATIONS are the best defense against the legal system: it is why corporations have almost taken over everything and why organized crime is impossible to touch but the less evolved groups. Shifting risk/blame is easily done and even with a paper trail it doesn't give you a smoking gun pointing directly to the person responsible... at least not usually in a way you can prove beyond a reasonable doubt in court. The more conflated that path to the top is, harder it is to follow clearly. EACH layer of process and staff provides more protection. Even honest functioning government has a huge problem due to it's size amplifying the tiny into huge problems. There are limits to human capabilities even if honest and competent; you can't see the whole picture on everything once it scales beyond cognition.

            In politics, there is no burden of proof-- downside is that baseless smears can work so well. Cynical people falsely equate and easily fall for smears against decent people unable to differentiate between them and a total scumbag. BTW, one of Russia's top tactics is to foster this in their enemies (I learned decades ago about it) and that is why Russia is doomed -- they've used the tactic internally forever; that aspect of their culture is poison, and it's one of their favorite weapons (along with actual poison.) The huge shift from military to spying I think has resulted in the largest army and attack on democracy since WW2 (I read they are putting more $ into staff than the cold war.) The result makes despots more appealing without directly promoting them; it promotes despotism because it undermines the mutual trust, respect, and reasonable tolerance necessary to resist despotism. (Which is where all democracies go eventually. Seriously, Ben Franklin said that is our fate, just as death is.)

          • (Score: 3, Insightful) by DeathMonkey on Wednesday January 16 2019, @07:35PM

            by DeathMonkey (1380) on Wednesday January 16 2019, @07:35PM (#787515) Journal

            OK where is the link to him being convicted of a crime, which is the bar for calling someone criminal.

            Also, I hate Clintons for being lying rapists and murderers.

            Aren't you supposed to have a conviction of rape or murder before you call someone that?

            It's pretty sad I can't tell if this is a joke because the evidenciary double-standard against the Clintons really is this drastic.

          • (Score: 2) by GlennC on Thursday January 17 2019, @12:05AM

            by GlennC (3656) on Thursday January 17 2019, @12:05AM (#787661)

            Also, I hate Clintons for being lying rapists and murderers

            Now, now, no need to argue....BOTH SIDES are lying rapists and murderers, and amoral corporate whores on top of it!

            --
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        • (Score: 2) by linkdude64 on Wednesday January 16 2019, @08:49PM (2 children)

          by linkdude64 (5482) on Wednesday January 16 2019, @08:49PM (#787550)

          Yes, Hillary is an honest saint and would've certainly been better.

          (Hint: She would have been much worse)

          • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @09:50PM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @09:50PM (#787589)

            Bbbbbut her emails!!!

            lol you fuckers are certifiable, what is the point of bitching about Hillary in reply to "no one likes a lying criminal like Trump"? Is that all you got? Your brains stopped trying after Nov. 2016?

            • (Score: 3, Touché) by GlennC on Thursday January 17 2019, @12:22AM

              by GlennC (3656) on Thursday January 17 2019, @12:22AM (#787668)

              Honestly, neither Clinton nor Trump should have been allowed to lead a pack of Cub Scouts, let alone a nation. They're both self-centered, amoral, lying pricks who would pimp out their own grandchildren if they thought they could make money from it.

              --
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    • (Score: 5, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @01:55AM (7 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @01:55AM (#787170)

      Every administration will do some good things, and he didn't create the legislation anyway.

      The passage of H.R. 4174 would not have been possible without the dedication and leadership of former Speaker Paul Ryan (WI-1-R), Senators Patty Murray (WA-D), Brian Schatz (HI-D), Ben Sasse (NE-R), and Rep. Derek Kilmer (WA-6-D). The bipartisan effort to improve access and availability of government data benefits citizens, institutions, and the private sector.

      Found the reason

      • (Score: 4, Interesting) by HiThere on Wednesday January 16 2019, @02:31AM (4 children)

        by HiThere (866) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday January 16 2019, @02:31AM (#787179) Journal

        Maybe. But legislation so often does the exact opposite of what its name claims that it will do that I remain dubious.

        --
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        • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @03:21AM (2 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @03:21AM (#787199)

          It can be both. Government sponsored fraudulent science used to drive decision-making. TFA:

          The OPEN Government Data Act seeks to... require the federal government to use open data to improve decision making.

          This open data will likely come from the private sector. Whatever the case, it will certainly be used to advance the interests of the private sector. In other words, this can be used to undermine authentic evidence-based policymaking.

          Our world is being run by people with dark triad personality disorders [wikipedia.org] and other psychopaths. I would not be surprised to see scientific racism and sexism, of all kinds, crop up as well.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @03:26AM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @03:26AM (#787200)

            oops. s/fraudulent //. Private sector will be the one supplying the data, licensed with the open government license, which the government is required to use.

            • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @03:28AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @03:28AM (#787201)

              ...agh, my kingdom for an edit button...

        • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Wednesday January 16 2019, @06:50PM

          by Freeman (732) on Wednesday January 16 2019, @06:50PM (#787494) Journal

          I was going to go into how the "Patriot Act" is an abominable oxymoron, but how others don't have to be. Then I thought, this is politics, it's entirely possible that most bills don't do what they claim.

          --
          Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
      • (Score: 1) by bussdriver on Wednesday January 16 2019, @05:55PM

        by bussdriver (6876) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday January 16 2019, @05:55PM (#787470)

        The bill passed with huge majorities. It wouldn't need Trump other than the Senate seems to be held hostage by the Majority Leader who won't disagree with Trump in the slightest anymore. Did his wife do something corrupt that Trump knows about? (she works for Trump.)

        Conspiracies aside, Trump wasn't needed to pass this law and since he needs to have something (having done so little) he might as well sign some papers he won't ever read anyway.

      • (Score: 2) by Nobuddy on Thursday January 17 2019, @05:51PM

        by Nobuddy (1626) on Thursday January 17 2019, @05:51PM (#787954)

        Paul Ryan? Yea, now we KNOW there is some shady shit in there.

    • (Score: 5, Funny) by arslan on Wednesday January 16 2019, @02:05AM

      by arslan (3462) on Wednesday January 16 2019, @02:05AM (#787174)

      As other have pointed out, this is yet another move hand data over to Russia.... yet another Russian collusion! Are you afraid yet!!

    • (Score: 2) by krishnoid on Wednesday January 16 2019, @02:09AM

      by krishnoid (1156) on Wednesday January 16 2019, @02:09AM (#787175)

      I'm not reading anything in the summary about funding for it, so there's that.

    • (Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @02:34AM (20 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @02:34AM (#787182)

      The catch is that Trump has been running the most transparent administration in history. Refute that without using feelings.

      • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @02:53AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @02:53AM (#787185)

        BUT BUT BUT MUH FEELZ!!!

      • (Score: 5, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @03:51AM (10 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @03:51AM (#787210)

        How about prove that statement using only facts? It is a tough bar you'll have to reach since Trump has met with Putin multiple times without any other US personnel around.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @04:10AM (9 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @04:10AM (#787219)

          So? You want transcripts of the presidents every word to meet your criteria for transparent now?

          Im ok with that in general, actually last election there was a guy out here who ran for governor or mayor or something on the platform that all political offices would be bugged and theyd have to wear go-pros all day. Still, just pointing one persons actions without making a comparison when we are talking about relative transparency is invalid.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @05:16PM (8 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @05:16PM (#787452)

            No, but I will require such transcripts if you want to call him the most transparent. Meeting multiple times with our biggest adversary and no other US officials? We are truly living in crazy times when conservatives are bending over backwards to defend multiple secret meetings with a Russian president.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @05:42PM (7 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @05:42PM (#787467)

              "No, but I will require such transcripts if you want to call him the most transparent."

              Are there transcripts of previous president's discussions with other heads of state?

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @09:45PM (6 children)

                by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @09:45PM (#787588)

                Yes other Presidents have met privately with heads of state, but always with an interpreter or other official. As with many things Trump his meetings with Putin are "unpresidented". If he was breaking with tradition and protocol in a good way then you wouldn't have so many people upset about it, but as it stands your only defense of him is "he hasn't been convicted in a court of law." Everything else points to Trump being the shittiest most corrupt president ever.

                • (Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Wednesday January 16 2019, @10:03PM (1 child)

                  by tangomargarine (667) on Wednesday January 16 2019, @10:03PM (#787596)

                  "unpresidented"

                  Unprecedented. As in, without precedent. [merriam-webster.com]

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                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 17 2019, @01:29AM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 17 2019, @01:29AM (#787682)

                  Yes other Presidents have met privately with heads of state, but always with an interpreter or other official.

                  Source?

                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 17 2019, @01:38AM (2 children)

                  by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 17 2019, @01:38AM (#787685)

                  President Barack Obama hosted Apple CEO Tim Cook, AT&T CEO Randall Stephenson, Google computer scientist Vint Cerf and other tech executives and civil liberties leaders on Thursday for a closed-door meeting about government surveillance, sources tell POLITICO.

                  The session, which Obama attended himself, followed a similar gathering earlier this week between top administration officials, tech-industry lobbyists and leading privacy hawks, the sources said. Those earlier, off-the-record discussions centered on the controversy surrounding the NSA as well as commercial privacy issues such as online tracking of consumers.

                  No one involved in the meetings will talk about what was discussed

                  https://www.cultofmac.com/239634/obama-meets-with-apple-ceo-tim-cook-in-private-meeting-to-discuss-prism/ [cultofmac.com]

                  hmm...

                  Russian president Vladimir Putin and U.S. president Barack Obama will meet privately in Northern Ireland for the first time since they were both returned to office.

                  https://www.cfr.org/interview/what-expect-putin-obama-meeting [cfr.org]
                  Who else was in this meeting? Where is the transcript?

                  • (Score: 2) by Nobuddy on Thursday January 17 2019, @06:06PM (1 child)

                    by Nobuddy (1626) on Thursday January 17 2019, @06:06PM (#787963)

                    The meeting was cancelled. They talked at G8, in the meeting instead.

      • (Score: 4, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @05:21AM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @05:21AM (#787242)

        A fine example [washingtonpost.com] of his transparency was in the news just a few days ago.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @05:47AM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @05:47AM (#787250)

          Is it anonymous sources?

          • (Score: 1, Disagree) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @05:50AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @05:50AM (#787253)

            I couldnt help and clicked it... and.... I knew it, hilarious.

            That paper seems to consist of nothing but anonymously sourced rumors, there is something mentally deficient about people who take that kind of stuff seriously.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @07:01AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @07:01AM (#787271)

        Yeah...just don't pay any attention to the little guy behind the curtain...

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @09:06PM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @09:06PM (#787566)

        For transparency it is required to actually know what is going on. Since Trump changes his mind continuously and flips and reverses positions carefully laid out by his staff with a single Tweeted lie, reverse again to find actual policy. Transparency also requires honesty, the single virtue that Trump (and anyone who ends up working for him) is absolutely incapable of. Aside from that, they may live in the clearest pond in the country but the biggest catfish there flops his tail to muddy up everything with such regularity the waters are more than opaque.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 17 2019, @01:45AM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 17 2019, @01:45AM (#787691)

          He says outright that he doesnt know the meaning of the word permanent, so you can expect him to flip flop on anything and everything constantly. He just baffles you because you don't understand people like that.

          Mr. Trump: You never know, you know again, the word—– I don’t know what the word permanent means, OK? I never know what the word permanent means.

      • (Score: 2) by Nobuddy on Thursday January 17 2019, @05:55PM

        by Nobuddy (1626) on Thursday January 17 2019, @05:55PM (#787956)

        I cannot say you are wrong. Dishonest, dirty, deceitful, but clearly too stupid to hide anything since every lie is shown blatantly false by the simple data available.

    • (Score: 2, Disagree) by Whoever on Wednesday January 16 2019, @05:29AM (2 children)

      by Whoever (4524) on Wednesday January 16 2019, @05:29AM (#787243) Journal

      It's not at all clear that this is good.

      There are all kinds of reasons that valid data may not be publicly released. This law will exclude those datasets from any policy making.

      For an example, there is proprietary climate data that cannot be released because of its proprietary nature. This new law will allow more climate change denial.

      There are datasets that contain private data on individuals (health, etc.). This will exclude that data from any policy making decisions.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @07:26PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @07:26PM (#787510)

        There are all kinds of reasons that valid data may not be publicly released. This law will exclude those datasets from any policy making.

        Unless I am wrong, this isn't that law.

        The OPEN Government Data Act requires all non-sensitive government data to be made available in open and machine-readable formats by default. It establishes Chief Data Officers (CDO) at federal agencies, as well as a CDO Council.

        It seems this is just saying that, if the government has data that can be released to the public, it must be, and in easily parsed formats.

      • (Score: 2) by GeminiDomino on Thursday January 17 2019, @04:56PM

        by GeminiDomino (661) on Thursday January 17 2019, @04:56PM (#787933)

        For an example, there is proprietary climate data that cannot be released because of its proprietary nature. This new law will allow more climate change denial.

        Sounds like a business model problem to me. Reproducibility and Falsifiability trump (or should, anyway) profit.

        There are datasets that contain private data on individuals (health, etc.). This will exclude that data from any policy making decisions.

        Good. Policy making should be based on aggregate, anonymized data (which, at least in the health sphere, I can personally attest is collected in great quantities), not individually identifiable cases.

        --
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    • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @08:55AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @08:55AM (#787297)

      The only thought that went through Trump's head was the it enables more data mining business for his "friends".

    • (Score: 0, Disagree) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @09:38AM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @09:38AM (#787312)

      He has accomplished many good things unless you are anti-American or pro-Communist. Most people here have been completely immersed in censored media which makes seeing him do anything good seem shocking. Censoring bastards and information bubbles have set your beliefs and you must know that's the truth by now.

      • (Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @08:15PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @08:15PM (#787535)

        Actually reality is 100% the opposite of what you think. Trump's supporters are the brainwashed masses who are repeatedly the most uninformed demographic. Keep projecting though!

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 17 2019, @01:32AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 17 2019, @01:32AM (#787683)

          Reading about rumors from anonymous sources doesn't make you informed...

  • (Score: 5, Funny) by Sulla on Wednesday January 16 2019, @03:38AM (1 child)

    by Sulla (5173) on Wednesday January 16 2019, @03:38AM (#787203) Journal

    Wtf i hate transparency now

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    • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @03:47AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @03:47AM (#787206)

      Then why are you being transparent and telling everyone?

  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @07:11AM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @07:11AM (#787273)

    Wasn't that democratic tribe code for "anti-Trump"?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @08:11PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @08:11PM (#787533)

      You realize that was the description of the legislation Trump signed right? Your post doesn't even make sense oh Lord of Edginess.

    • (Score: 2) by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us on Wednesday January 16 2019, @09:12PM

      by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us (6553) on Wednesday January 16 2019, @09:12PM (#787569) Journal

      No, reality code for "anti-Trump".

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    • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Wednesday January 16 2019, @10:35PM

      by DeathMonkey (1380) on Wednesday January 16 2019, @10:35PM (#787623) Journal

      Wasn't that democratic tribe code for "anti-Trump"?

      No, our code for that is "Sane."

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Phoenix666 on Wednesday January 16 2019, @12:12PM (2 children)

    by Phoenix666 (552) on Wednesday January 16 2019, @12:12PM (#787352) Journal

    Presumably Trump could champion real, forward-thinking legislation on climate change to lower global atmospheric carbon dioxide, and the Democrats and the MSM would instantly pivot to become anti-environment.

    In upside-down world, anything is possible.

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    Washington DC delenda est.
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @08:09PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @08:09PM (#787532)

      So you've gone full DINO huh? http://lmgtfy.com/?q=democrats+praise+trump [lmgtfy.com]

      What is the point of your post? Did someone criticize Trump for signing this legislation?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @09:16PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @09:16PM (#787572)

      If Trump did champion real, foward-thinking legislation on climate change to lower global atmospheric carbon dioxide we would already be living in upside-down world. Or yes, we'd all look for how he or his family personally makes money off it, or how it says that will occur but in fact sells more of the world to commercial interests that don't care. Because that is the President who has been elected.

  • (Score: 2) by turgid on Wednesday January 16 2019, @04:55PM

    by turgid (4318) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday January 16 2019, @04:55PM (#787438) Journal
  • (Score: 2) by ilsa on Wednesday January 16 2019, @10:39PM (1 child)

    by ilsa (6082) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday January 16 2019, @10:39PM (#787625)

    Given how he's handled himself this past year, I have great difficulty believing that he would be willing to sign anything that is beneficial to everyone unless he himself directly and particularly benefits from it.

    So I am going to assume that something has been snuck into the bill, or there is some aspect of the bill that is of particular value to him, such as giving him access to desired information that he didn't have easy access to before.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @11:22PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16 2019, @11:22PM (#787649)

      Duh... it's probably the clause that requires special prosecutors to hand over all their files to targets.

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