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posted by martyb on Friday January 18 2019, @06:15PM   Printer-friendly

https://weather.com/storms/winter/news/2019-01-15-winter-storm-harper-snow-forecast-plains-midwest-northeast

Winter Storm Harper is already pummeling parts of the West with heavy snow and will spread its mess of snow, ice and wind into the Plains, Midwest and Northeast into this weekend.

Harper's heaviest snow, so far, is in the Sierra Nevada of California. Early Thursday morning, Lone Pine, California, reported 5 inches of snow had fallen in just 2 hours.

That storm will tap into cold air once it moves through the central and eastern states Friday through the weekend, delivering a widespread swath of significant snow.

[...]

Winter storm watches and warnings and winter weather advisories have been posted by the National Weather Service from the northern and central Plains eastward through the southern Great Lakes and into the Northeast.

Cities included in the winter storm watches or warnings include Chicago, Milwaukee, Boston, Hartford, Providence, Pittsburgh, Albany, Buffalo, Cleveland and Des Moines.

In other words, air travel is going to be severely impacted with many delayed or cancelled flights. Even if your flight is not in the storm area, the plane may be delayed in coming from someplace that is. Better leave early on your tropical vacation.


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 18 2019, @06:27PM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 18 2019, @06:27PM (#788335)

    Am I understanding this right? A winter storm is coming from southish-west and moving north-east. It will be intensifying thanks to a weather phenomenon called a "Polar vortex" that was the basis for a 2004 disaster movie "The Day After Tomorrow".

    • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 18 2019, @07:10PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 18 2019, @07:10PM (#788370)

      It is almost like the movie took real science and extrapolated it into Hollywood nonsense!

      Gotta love the military hardened helicopter that flies just fine in temperatures that create human popsicles in just a few seconds.

    • (Score: 3, Touché) by bob_super on Friday January 18 2019, @07:25PM (1 child)

      by bob_super (1357) on Friday January 18 2019, @07:25PM (#788376)

      It's nice that we finally fixed all the other problems, so the existence of winter storms causing blizzard conditions in the US can be discussed as news.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 18 2019, @07:48PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 18 2019, @07:48PM (#788386)

        +1 Scathing Sarcasm

  • (Score: 2) by AssCork on Friday January 18 2019, @06:33PM

    by AssCork (6255) on Friday January 18 2019, @06:33PM (#788345) Journal

    Bring it on, you frigid bitch.

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  • (Score: 2) by Thexalon on Friday January 18 2019, @06:39PM (11 children)

    by Thexalon (636) on Friday January 18 2019, @06:39PM (#788351)

    So far, we've gotten a whole lotta nothing. Maybe an inch or two accumulation.

    When it does hit, we're going to get a foot or so on the ground. Which isn't all that big of a deal, because we handle 6" storms all the time and the only difference is how much work is involved digging out afterwords.

    I've been trying to pinpoint when and why the reporting on snowstorms went from:

    Our nightly weather forecast: Heavy snow expected tomorrow. Leave extra time to commute, it's possible schools will be closed so make a plan for taking care the kids for that day. If you lose power, make sure to check on elderly or disabled neighbors who might need assistance.

    to:

    PANIC! LOCK YOUR DOORS! HIDE THE KIDS! STOCKPILE GUNS AND SUPPLIES! THERE'S SNOW COMING!

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 18 2019, @06:46PM (6 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 18 2019, @06:46PM (#788358)

      People barely remember what snow was like due to global warming [wattsupwiththat.com], so it is a much more exciting even than in the past. Most children have never even experienced snow, which is strange because record snowfalls were predicted by climate models [skepticalscience.com].

      • (Score: 2) by Thexalon on Friday January 18 2019, @07:32PM (4 children)

        by Thexalon (636) on Friday January 18 2019, @07:32PM (#788378)

        Kids these days experience snow in most of the areas that used to experience snow. They just don't experience it as often.

        What may have changed isn't so much that more areas of the country are suddenly in the tropical zone, but that a lot of people moved south to get away from snow. I always found that pretty silly: A snowstorm is annoying, but it won't destroy your house like a hurricane will.

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 18 2019, @08:06PM (2 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 18 2019, @08:06PM (#788391)

          I guess you've never seen a roof collapse due to snow load?

          • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Thexalon on Friday January 18 2019, @08:17PM (1 child)

            by Thexalon (636) on Friday January 18 2019, @08:17PM (#788396)

            No, because roofs in my area are typically designed to handle significant snow load, and if for some reason yours isn't the solution is a relatively inexpensive roof rake.

            In general, the colder the climate, the pointier the roof, for precisely this reason.

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            • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 18 2019, @09:01PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 18 2019, @09:01PM (#788409)

              Are you saying it doesn't happen?

        • (Score: 2) by Pslytely Psycho on Saturday January 19 2019, @08:19PM

          by Pslytely Psycho (1218) on Saturday January 19 2019, @08:19PM (#788752)

          "Kids these days experience snow in most of the areas that used to experience snow. They just don't experience it as often."

          Exactly this. Eastern Washington when I grew up used to experience winters that averaged far more snowfall. Now when we have what used to be an average winter, it seems far worse. We still get the once a decade average winter from hell, but our averages have been trending higher in the last twenty years or so.

          This year has been exceptionally warm as we're in the forties in January with rain and have only seen a couple of inch's since the start of winter. Lots of rain, but nearly no snow at all. Gotta love love an El Niño winter here. Saw a Robin yesterday, they don't usually show up till March.

          As far as destroying homes yeah, it's a lot easier to design a sloped roof or a strong roof that resists the weight of an average winter snowfall than to design something to withstand wind. But even then an extremely harsh winter will result in big flat topped business buildings collapsing.

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      • (Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Friday January 18 2019, @07:44PM

        by tangomargarine (667) on Friday January 18 2019, @07:44PM (#788385)

        Most children have never even experienced snow, which is strange because record snowfalls were predicted by climate models [skepticalscience.com].

        Oh bullshit. So Wisconsin isn't covered in a blanket of snow all winter, but we've had at least 1 or 2 multi-inch snowfalls per year for the last several. It just takes until mid-January for the first one to show up sometimes.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 18 2019, @08:28PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 18 2019, @08:28PM (#788400)

      It started when this new thing called the Internet started sucking all the ad revenue from tv and the written press.

    • (Score: 2) by richtopia on Friday January 18 2019, @09:32PM

      by richtopia (3160) on Friday January 18 2019, @09:32PM (#788419) Homepage Journal

      Looking at the weathermap it doesn't seem happy, but no snow yet:

      https://maps.darksky.net/@emoji,42.277,-78.289,6 [darksky.net]

    • (Score: 2) by captain normal on Friday January 18 2019, @10:15PM (1 child)

      by captain normal (2205) on Friday January 18 2019, @10:15PM (#788445)

      Yeah, well it seems to come from the recent (only the last few years) media thing of naming even winter storms, like they are hurricanes or cyclones. Making them seem like truly dangerous deadly the same as tropical hurricanes and cyclones.

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 19 2019, @01:34AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 19 2019, @01:34AM (#788494)

        The problem is that people will learn that most of the named winter storms don't actually amount to all that much of a problem, and many of them will start to ignore "named storms" in general. Including the hurricanes and cyclones.

        Which the media, being adept manipulators of the masses, probably knows, and is looking forward to all the future dead bodies they can show after the hurricanes plow through an area.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 18 2019, @06:40PM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 18 2019, @06:40PM (#788354)

    Will this finally be a snowfall you accept as true?

    https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=29594&page=1&cid=786621#commentwrap [soylentnews.org]

    • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 18 2019, @07:15PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 18 2019, @07:15PM (#788374)

      That user is such a shilling astro-turfing conservative. Or a DINO, the human existence is a spectrum after all.

      • (Score: 2, Troll) by Phoenix666 on Saturday January 19 2019, @12:29AM

        by Phoenix666 (552) on Saturday January 19 2019, @12:29AM (#788479) Journal

        shilling

        What do you think I shill for? You've written this before, but have never specified what product I'm pushing. I mean, I laugh every time you say it, but it would be even funnier to hear you think I'm trying to push tide pods or something.

        astro-turfing

        Why do you think I would be astro-turfing soylent instead of reddit or something? Why would I contribute to the site by submitting stories, buying a subscription, and buying gift subscriptions for others here? The best answer seems to be that you don't know what "astro-turfing" means.

        conservative. Or a DINO,

        Wrong twice. For the record, I think of myself as a progressive in the Teddy Roosevelt, 1912 Progressive Party sense of the term, not in the 2019 sense of the term. (For those who aren't caught up on their American history, the Progressive Party of 1912, also known as the "Bull Moose Party," spawned the national park system, the FDA, child labor laws, Social Security, and every other useful advance for regular Americans that the FDR Democrats later appropriated.) In college, graduate school, and for a few years afterward I was a member and activist in the Green Party. When Howard Dean ran for president I registered as a Democrat, and was until Donna Brazile confirmed that Hillary and the DNC rigged the primary. Then I dropped my Dem registration and am now an independent.

        I voted for Trump because of the DNC primary rigging, because I know the Clintons are criminal, because Trump vowed to kill the Trans-Pacific Partnership, and because I thought it likely he would kick at least some of the power-elites in the nuts. He instantly killed the TPP when he assumed office, which is a gigantic win for Americans. Second, he has actually kicked DC's and the world's power-elites in the nuts, and I have been enjoying every minute of it. I would be most thrilled to see him throw Bill and Hillary in jail, but after 30 years of seeing them skate I'm not gonna hold my breath.

        There you have it, since you're so interested in Phoenix666 and his motivations.

        Maybe when you smurf up a little courage you can come out from behind the AC curtain and say all this like a man.

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    • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Saturday January 19 2019, @12:07AM

      by Phoenix666 (552) on Saturday January 19 2019, @12:07AM (#788475) Journal

      Yes, it did snow here last night. So glad you asked. There was half an inch on the car when I took my son to school. We had a mini-snowball fight for 10 minutes before we exhausted all the easily available material.

      Two hours later, everything had melted and dried.

      Snowpocalypse indeed.

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  • (Score: 2) by istartedi on Friday January 18 2019, @07:02PM (3 children)

    by istartedi (123) on Friday January 18 2019, @07:02PM (#788366) Journal

    True to form, 100 miles from there it will be a nice white blanket while DC is forecast to have "wintry mix". Snow messes things up, but at least you can have fun with it. Sleet, freezing rain, cold rain--good for nothing. You're stuck inside watching tree limbs snap and hoping the power doesn't go out. Pure misery.

    Now I'm in NorCal and at an altitude where it mostly just rains. On those rare days when it snows here, it's a clean transition from rain to wet snow. In 10 years here I've never heard "wintry mix" forecast for a heavily populated area. Good riddance.

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    • (Score: 2) by captain normal on Friday January 18 2019, @10:06PM (1 child)

      by captain normal (2205) on Friday January 18 2019, @10:06PM (#788438)

      Shh...we don't want too many people of the frigid right side moving out here.

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      • (Score: 3, Funny) by istartedi on Friday January 18 2019, @10:14PM

        by istartedi (123) on Friday January 18 2019, @10:14PM (#788443) Journal

        No worry. It's not all rainbows and sunshine. I also live in a firequake mudslide zone, pay 102% of my money in taxes and got killed by gangs yesterday.

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    • (Score: 2) by realDonaldTrump on Saturday January 19 2019, @06:22AM

      by realDonaldTrump (6614) on Saturday January 19 2019, @06:22AM (#788575) Homepage Journal

      Winter is Coming. Tell me about it. I'm at the White House, almost by myself. I'm not alone, I have the horrible cold & snow to keep me "company." I'm waiting, very patiently, for the Dems to fund the Wall (Barrier). And I'll wait as long as I have to. I'll do whatever I have to. But I'll tell you, I could really use a little of that good old Global Warming right now. While Melanie & Barron are in Florida. In sunny warm Florida. Declare State of Emergency??

  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 19 2019, @02:31AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 19 2019, @02:31AM (#788515)

    This produces by India/MOSPI experimenting with climate weather, too Katrina was Kokudokotsusho's work.

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