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posted by takyon on Wednesday March 06 2019, @09:24PM   Printer-friendly

For just the second time since the global epidemic began, a patient appears to have been cured of infection with H.I.V., the virus that causes AIDS.

The news comes nearly 12 years to the day after the first patient known to be cured, a feat that researchers have long tried, and failed, to duplicate. The surprise success now confirms that a cure for H.I.V. infection is possible, if difficult, researchers said.

The investigators are to publish their report on Tuesday in the journal Nature and to present some of the details at the Conference on Retroviruses and Opportunistic Infections in Seattle.

Publicly, the scientists are describing the case as a long-term remission. In interviews, most experts are calling it a cure, with the caveat that it is hard to know how to define the word when there are only two known instances.

Both milestones resulted from bone-marrow transplants given to infected patients. But the transplants were intended to treat cancer in the patients, not H.I.V. Bone-marrow transplantation is unlikely to be a realistic treatment option in the near future. Powerful drugs are now available to control H.I.V. infection, while the transplants are risky, with harsh side effects that can last for years. But rearming the body with immune cells similarly modified to resist H.I.V. might well succeed as a practical treatment, experts said.

HIV-1 remission following CCR5Δ32/Δ32 haematopoietic stem-cell transplantation (DOI: 10.1038/s41586-019-1027-4) (DX)


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Third time's the charm? I guess they won't pick a genetic disease to target instead since preimplantation genetic diagnosis can already handle that. Others will have to resort to gene therapy after the child is born.

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  • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 06 2019, @09:38PM (10 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 06 2019, @09:38PM (#810877)

    My pastor says he knew as long ago as 1985 that the cure for HIV was to not be homosexual or Haitian.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 06 2019, @10:52PM (7 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 06 2019, @10:52PM (#810906)

      It originated in chimpanzees... The earliest known case of infection with HIV-1 in a human was detected in a blood sample collected in 1959 from a man in Kinshasa, Democratic Republic of the Congo. (How he became infected is not known.)
      Uh...

      • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 06 2019, @10:55PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 06 2019, @10:55PM (#810909)

        Did this man or his pet chimpanzee travel to Haiti?

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 07 2019, @01:54AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 07 2019, @01:54AM (#810970)

          Why did you fuck and infect his chimpanzee you fucking weirdo!

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 06 2019, @11:34PM (4 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 06 2019, @11:34PM (#810925)

        Nope, now the theory is that it has transferred from monkeys/apes to humans over a dozen times:

        The new research also helps explain a mystery. Scientists have now documented that the SIV virus has jumped from monkeys or apes into humans at least 13 separate times!

        https://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/news/081101_hivorigins [berkeley.edu]

        So this virus that is nearly impossible to transmit from person-to-person is being transmitted from other species to humans once every couple years? Also, this:

        "Surprisingly, it does not matter how a woman is exposed to HIV -- vaginally, rectally, etc. -- the virus goes very quickly to the female reproductive tract"

        The more I hear about HIV the odder it gets. First, it is nearly impossible to transmit sexually[1], second most infections appear to start from a single virus,[2] despite the huge genetic diversity of intrapatient HIV that supposedly makes it hard to treat[3]. And now this business about homing to the reproductive tract. This just doesnt sound like a virus... it sounds like an entire cell gets transmitted.

        [1] http://m.jid.oxfordjournals.org/content/191/9/1403.full [oxfordjournals.org]
        [2] http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/18490657/ [nih.gov]
        [3] http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2614444/ [nih.gov]

        https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=12103&cid=302121#commentwrap [soylentnews.org]

        • (Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Thursday March 07 2019, @04:38PM (3 children)

          by tangomargarine (667) on Thursday March 07 2019, @04:38PM (#811185)

          From a skim of Wikipedia, it sounds like the theory is that people who deal with bushmeat in Africa pretty commonly end up with the monkey version of the disease (SIV), but it needs to be quickly passed from host to host several times in humans before it manages to mutate into HIV. So they think it just became a thing in the 20th century because it took that long for human living arrangements to get to that point, with people living in close enough contact in cities with lots of prostitutes and stuff.

          nearly impossible to transmit from person-to-person

          Low rate of transmission doesn't really matter if a sufficiently large population is exposing themselves to it on a regular basis. Don't most STDs only have a transmission rate of like 10%?

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          • (Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Thursday March 07 2019, @04:43PM (2 children)

            by tangomargarine (667) on Thursday March 07 2019, @04:43PM (#811191)

            Whoops, forgot the link I was going to use.

            Sexual intercourse is the major mode of HIV transmission.

            link [wikipedia.org]

            Also under "Origins":

            While transmission rates of HIV during vaginal intercourse are typically low, they are increased manyfold if one of the partners suffers from a sexually transmitted infection resulting in genital ulcers. Early 1900s colonial cities were notable due to their high prevalence of prostitution and genital ulcers to the degree that as of 1928 as many as 45% of female residents of eastern Leopoldville were thought to have been prostitutes and as of 1933 around 15% of all residents of the same city were infected by one of the forms of syphilis.[146]

            As an aside, they really didn't make it easy to find in that article. The heck is "tropism", and how many people know that definition? I found it by doing a page search on "transmission."

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            • (Score: 2) by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us on Thursday March 07 2019, @05:57PM

              by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us (6553) on Thursday March 07 2019, @05:57PM (#811247) Journal

              The heck is "tropism", and how many people know that definition?

              A turning, or what does the subject turn towards? Tropic (turn of axial tilt), trope (turning a phrase), tropism (bacteria/virus turns/prefers what cells?), heliotropic (turn towards the sun), hydrotropic (root turns towards the water). Same root.

              But I love word origins, a logotropist of the first order.

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            • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 07 2019, @06:03PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 07 2019, @06:03PM (#811252)

              The HIV article is focused on the virus (virology) while the AIDS article is focused on the disease (epidemiology/physiology).

              Tropism is a virology term that classifies viruses based on the types of cells they can infect (e.g. T-tropic infects T cells, M-tropic infects macrophages, anthro-tripic infects human cells)

              https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=HIV/AIDS&mobileaction=toggle_view_desktop#Transmission [wikipedia.org]

    • (Score: 5, Funny) by PartTimeZombie on Wednesday March 06 2019, @10:57PM (1 child)

      by PartTimeZombie (4827) on Wednesday March 06 2019, @10:57PM (#810910)

      Go on admit it, your pastor is Ted. [wikipedia.org]

      Not that I'm judging. If he wants to take drugs and have sex with dudes, that's his business. Plenty of evangelicals do it.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 07 2019, @06:00AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 07 2019, @06:00AM (#811046)

        It's kind of hypocritical still to first bash gays in the public and then take it in the ass in private. And don't even get me started on child molesting.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 06 2019, @09:56PM (5 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 06 2019, @09:56PM (#810882)

    If they want anyone to read this they would put it on SciHub. I get zero results there.

    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 06 2019, @10:02PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 06 2019, @10:02PM (#810883)

      Yeah. Or you could, you know, pay for the article or subscribe to the journal if you have a real reason to follow the articles. (Or your institution can).

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 06 2019, @10:52PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 06 2019, @10:52PM (#810905)

        Spoken like someone who only rarely reads articles. Institutional access is so inferior to SciHub it isn't funny. I could log in that way if I wanted but why when it takes like 10x longer to get each article?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 06 2019, @10:24PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 06 2019, @10:24PM (#810887)

      Right, because nobody has access to Nature, the most widely read and disseminated scientific journal in the world. In all seriousness though, most libraries have subscriptions to Nature, as the institutional rate to subscribe is based on various factors, like number of patrons, access numbers, budget, and scales from free to tens of thousands of dollars.

  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us on Wednesday March 06 2019, @10:41PM (4 children)

    by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us (6553) on Wednesday March 06 2019, @10:41PM (#810898) Journal

    As I recall part of the bone marrow transplant process is to give immunosuppressants to allow the graft to take hold. Effectively this kills whatever immunity the person had left, and is why there is a quarantine period in a hospital ward that staff is trained up one side and down the other on hygiene. One of the main points to current HIV therapy is to preserve what leukocytes and production remain and not let them be killed by the virus. So to take the risk on new bone marrow being able to produce new leukocytes one has to destroy what's left of the body's defenses - that sounds risky indeed. Which is why these were "accidental" cures, if cures they are. I'd be worried about the term of remission and that the patient still has the virus which could learn to munch on the new immune system. But wow!

    It will be interesting to see what success rates might be achievable with this. 2 cases is nowhere near the universe one needs to establish efficacy. Exciting stuff, though.

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    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by jmorris on Wednesday March 06 2019, @11:21PM (1 child)

      by jmorris (4844) on Wednesday March 06 2019, @11:21PM (#810918)

      And it might just be that simple. If HIV only infects the T-Cells and you destroy the entire immune system and keep it gone longer than the virus can exist free floating, it is gone. But you would need a 100.00% kill rate for that to work. With only the two examples it is hard to say much.

      • (Score: 2) by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us on Thursday March 07 2019, @06:02PM

        by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us (6553) on Thursday March 07 2019, @06:02PM (#811251) Journal

        Very true. No food, predator dies. Trick being to keep the host alive while it has no defense against anything else, either. (Well, limited defense as primary defenses are still up, one hopes.)

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 07 2019, @02:07AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 07 2019, @02:07AM (#810975)

      In both cases of a "cure," the standard bone marrow donation protocols were followed, since the risk to the patient wasn't that much higher than their advanced AIDS. In addition, the donors were from a population of people who seem naturally immune to HIV, for some reason. Therefore, once the immune system from the grafts got established, it was able to fight off the HIV in the body. The problem with this cure protocol is that, theoretically speaking, the risk of GVHD is much higher due to the transplant specifics; however there are no actual studies of that, of course.

      • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 07 2019, @04:41PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 07 2019, @04:41PM (#811186)

        a population of people who seem naturally immune to HIV, for some reason

        The mutated form of CCR5, which is a co-receptor that HIV uses to enter cells, is thought to have increased in frequency due to selective pressure from a combination of smallpox and the Black Death plague.

        As for the problems of GVHD, there are multiple clinical trials that are in progress where bone marrow is taken from the patient, genetically modified to remove or suppress CCR5, then re-introduced into the patient.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CCR5#Positive_selection [wikipedia.org]
        https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/results?cond=HIV+AIDS&term=+CCR5+gene+therapy&cntry=&state=&city=&dist= [clinicaltrials.gov]

  • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 06 2019, @10:55PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 06 2019, @10:55PM (#810908)

    Like it's 1970?

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